Funny Book Forensics 358 A Terror to Read

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, we're back. Yeah, that was loud. My like, Spike meter went on my. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Microphone and then I. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Good thing I run this through a levelator. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Levelator. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Otherwise, if I didn't level this audio, you know what Greg would do to you throughout the podcast? Like, his audio is all over the place. [00:00:24] Speaker B: It is. It is up, it is down. It is, it is all around sound. It's like quadriplantic. [00:00:30] Speaker A: Especially when I literally am looking at the photo, the video, and you're looking away from the microphone. Your microphone's over somewhere else and you're talking into space. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Well, I'm looking at you. You're over on one screen. I mean, I could flop everything around so I could look at you and then look at the book on a different thing. But I mean, no, that's okay. I won't look at you at all the flop. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Make noises, whatever. Anything like that. We are. Well, we are reading a book today. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Yeah, we are reading a book and I am excited. [00:01:07] Speaker A: Double reading two books. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Double issue. [00:01:12] Speaker A: 1St. First, I must tell you. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. What are we going to tell them? [00:01:16] Speaker A: Well, we need to let everybody know that we are part of the projectdash nerd.com network. Yeah, you interrupted me saying network, home of news for all the british royals. [00:01:32] Speaker B: All the british royals. [00:01:34] Speaker A: What now? How. How we ended up on this podcast on this network, I have no idea. [00:01:39] Speaker B: Wait, but you want. [00:01:41] Speaker A: If you want to learn about the. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Royal royals, the tv show the royals, go to project. [00:01:45] Speaker A: No, no. Like all of. [00:01:46] Speaker B: Oh, just of all the. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Like, if you want to learn Charles. No, no. If you want to learn that King Charles has come back from the dead. Right. [00:01:56] Speaker B: From cancer. Oh, he's alive still. I'm sorry. Yes. [00:01:59] Speaker A: And. Wow. And. And is now reassuming his place on the throne. You can learn all about that on projectdashner.com. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Okay. Is it on a meme? [00:02:12] Speaker A: Uh, no. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:14] Speaker A: It's just a. It's. I do they do memes there? I thought they just did news about the. [00:02:18] Speaker B: I thought they just did memes there. I wasn't sure if there was a. A meme. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Well, nestled in with all the news about the royals you can find, I. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Thought there was a Chuck E. Cheese meme or something like that. [00:02:31] Speaker A: I don't know. I mean, is that Chuck entertainment cheese. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Chuck entertainment cheese. [00:02:37] Speaker A: I think you've earned. I don't think you've earned the right to give him a middle initial. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:02:43] Speaker A: The. [00:02:43] Speaker B: The children casino. Yes. [00:02:48] Speaker A: What were the showbiz ones? [00:02:50] Speaker B: The. You know, I can't remember I I don't. [00:02:53] Speaker A: It's like, Chuck E. Cheese bought showbiz. Or did showbiz buy Chuck E. Cheese? [00:02:58] Speaker B: Well, I. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Only showbiz had the. Had the ape, right. [00:03:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I know of the showbiz stuff. I have showbiz records. I've seen the showbiz animatronics. I don't recall ever setting foot in a showbiz pizza palace. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Well, they had them here. [00:03:18] Speaker B: I. But I did not grow up around here. I. [00:03:21] Speaker A: When I moved, and I. And I was too poor to go to them and didn't have any friends, so I didn't go to. [00:03:26] Speaker B: When I. When I moved here. Like, the only. The only cool birthday spot that I went to, the two cool birthday spots that I went to was Tiffany's for roller skating. Tiffany's skating. Yeah. And. And then pizza and pipes, which, uh, the. You. If you went. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:48] Speaker B: The pipe organ with the black and white movies. And that was a weekend that was exciting, and that was fun, and I didn't know of anything better. And then everyone else telling me that Chuck E. Cheese was the spot, and I never knew that that was a thing until I was, like, 18 and too old to go to Chuck E. Cheese. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair. I mean, well, you just never want to go in that ball pit anyway. That's some nasty shit. I found out the hard way. I don't. I think I went to chuck E. Cheese once for maybe a birthday party. My parents did not want to go to Chuck E. Cheese because they said it was overpriced pizza on carbon. And so, I mean, I guess, like, under that philosophy. Yeah, well, under that philosophy, I think my, like, parents would go to Dave and Buster's for the food. Right, right. Like. [00:04:43] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I don't think they. I don't think they quite understood the main purpose of going to Chuck E. Cheese, which was not, in fact, the pizza. [00:04:56] Speaker B: You're not going for the food at any of those places. You're going for the entertainment. The pure entertainment. And maybe. I mean, you go to Dave and Buster's for the entertainment. Maybe the drinks. I don't. I've never eaten. There's. I don't. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Well, since this is a nighttime podcast, I have a. I have. I have lemonade and whiskey. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Oh, well, look at you. [00:05:17] Speaker A: This podcast. [00:05:18] Speaker B: I have a headache and water. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Well, maybe if you drank lemonade and whiskey, you'd be doing better. [00:05:26] Speaker B: You know, I wish. I wish I. I had an Arnold. [00:05:30] Speaker A: Palmer, but I substituted the iced tea with whiskey. [00:05:35] Speaker B: That. That's a. I mean, I commend you. I can't. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it made sense. It made sense at the time. We'll see, like, an hour into this podcast how much sense. [00:05:51] Speaker B: I mean, you're dealing with a fantastic book that was chosen for us to talk about on the project Dash nerd.com by. By jujitsu lawyer Paul that he'd never read, apparently. I thought he picked this because he loved it. And then you tell me, no, shocker. Never read this book. [00:06:12] Speaker A: Well, I think the important thing is I planned so well for this podcast that we weren't sure if we would have a copy of Starlight by the time we recorded Starlight, which you've heard last week, of course. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Of course. [00:06:24] Speaker A: For starlight number six. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Beautiful. [00:06:26] Speaker A: So you asked me to get a backup, and then it was like 09:00 at night, and I looked at Paul, and I was like, if there's any story you'd like us to read on the podcast. And he just looked at me like I was an idiot. Like, why would you be planning out your podcast around my recommendations? So he gets on his phone and he starts looking at things, and I'm like, what? Did you just start playing games on your phone when I ask you a question? And he's like, no. And he goes, terror titans number one. And I was like, why? He's like, well, static shock appears in it. Okay, well, trick's on him. Static shock doesn't appear till, like, issue four. And we're on issue one and two, so spoiler. Static shock will show up. [00:07:08] Speaker B: We get a cast of amazing characters in issue one, though. Characters I don't even know. Serpentor. [00:07:20] Speaker A: That is Serpentor. We've got Vulcan from the super friends. You got a cheerleader with big hands. [00:07:30] Speaker B: Cheerleader with big hands. Scary pony girl. [00:07:36] Speaker A: And alt universe deathstroke. [00:07:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Alt universe deathstroke. And yeah, it's pretty cool. Oh, you get the dude from the dude from waxworks, that movie from the nineties that had the guy from Gremlins in it. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Honestly, I thought you might know one character on this cover. I figured you would know Clock King in the background. [00:07:58] Speaker B: That's who I was talking about. From waxworks. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I knew clock King. [00:08:01] Speaker B: I knew Clock King. I was making fun of him seeing these for my experts. Deep cut for the whore people there. [00:08:07] Speaker A: Yeah, well, deep cut. Was clock King originally an atom villain? Yeah, or a flash? [00:08:13] Speaker B: Oh. [00:08:16] Speaker A: I'll let you stew on that for as we go. [00:08:18] Speaker B: I'm gonna say flash, so let's keep going Flash. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Well, okay. [00:08:22] Speaker B: I stood on it, Flash. [00:08:24] Speaker A: All right, I'm wrong. Well, I think I'm right, but. [00:08:28] Speaker B: You think you're right? You think I'm right. [00:08:31] Speaker A: I'm right. Let's see. Clock King. [00:08:33] Speaker B: You're not gonna tell me? [00:08:35] Speaker A: Well, this is the wrong clock King, so technically, he was a. Technically, he was this new earthquake. New earthquake king. Neither of us are right or wrong, apparently. Yeah, I guess we're all wrong. This is clock King number two. [00:08:51] Speaker B: Clock King two. [00:08:52] Speaker A: And I was referring to clock King number one. [00:08:55] Speaker B: So clock King one. Clock King two. No time for us to be right or wrong. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Let's look up some clock King number one here. William Talkman is who I was referring to. Remember, though, it couldn't be him, right? Didn't he die in suicide squad? [00:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah, he got blown up. Oh, he got murdered, this guy. He's tick tock. So he's. He's a tick. He's. We're going to call him Tick Tock. He's getting cancelled pretty soon anyways. Oh, dang. Featuring him. [00:09:24] Speaker A: This is the new. This is the new one. Well, good news. We were both wrong. The original Clock Kings first appearance was in a world's finest 111 in August of 1960. And indeed, he was a villain of Superman. No, I'm going to tell you, it wasn't Superman or Batman, which is the trick question. It was in a backup feature. Okay, and Aquaman. Yeah, another good guess. Unfortunately, at the time, Aquaman was appearing in Adventure comics. In fact, he was a villain of the Green Arrow. [00:10:07] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay, I could see that, man. [00:10:11] Speaker A: I could see that. Yes, the original clock king with the fantastic costumes. Yeah. But indeed, I was wrong. Of course. How could I forget that the clock King was murdered? We covered this. It was night squad issues where the clock king died. Right. Right away. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Well, not right away, but yeah, it took some time. [00:10:34] Speaker A: Didn't go so well. I think we liked him. We liked him a little bit better in the Justice League annual. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:42] Speaker A: But. Well, anyway, we're. I would say it's fair to say that DC, this is 2008. So if you go back a couple of years in infinite. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Just a few. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah, a couple of years before, in infinite Crisis, we had Superboy prime murdering all sorts of titans. And I guess Jeff Johns was writing Titans teen titans for a long time. But Sean McKeever starts writing the book around 2006. And if you don't know who Sean McKeever is, well, that won't surprise me because you said you didn't know who he is. [00:11:22] Speaker B: He did the Titans books, apparently. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know if he did stuff for Marvel and stuff. I mean, he could have done a whole bunch of things, and this was. Yeah, well, anyway, I personally wasn't reading a lot of. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Actually, I know. I wasn't reading a lot of stuff in the timeframe in which he was writing these books, but I was reading. [00:11:42] Speaker A: A ton of stuff. [00:11:43] Speaker B: I was not. I know. I know for a fact I wasn't. So. [00:11:49] Speaker A: And I kept buying these. I loved the Geoff Johns run of teen Titans, so they kept me hooked when they changed writers. And then we get. Well, we get. We get a spin off book because they're trying to feature a character called Ravager. [00:12:04] Speaker B: Who's that? [00:12:05] Speaker A: Ravager. Ravager. Not Ravager. Ravager. Ravage. Ravager. [00:12:10] Speaker B: Ravager. [00:12:11] Speaker A: And Ravager is the daughter of Deathstroke. Never heard. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Never heard of Deathstroke? [00:12:19] Speaker A: Uh huh. [00:12:19] Speaker B: That's. That's, uh. [00:12:22] Speaker A: You know, sometimes. Sometimes you say things, and then I just get annoyed. Cause you say things. [00:12:26] Speaker B: Oh, he's like a. Like a dude that, like, he's a. He's a merc. That. [00:12:42] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a merc. Yeah. In fact, Ravager is the character that. Another character that has the names pool and dead, and his name is based off of. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Oh, what? [00:12:52] Speaker A: Oh, no, no. Yeah. Like, yeah, because. Because, let's see, they were trolling Marv Wolfman over at Marvel, and then that character seems to be a lot more popular now than this character. So I guess that happens sometimes. But if you'll go way back in new Teen Titans history, we had. We had. Deathstroke was like, their very first villain, basically. And basically, in a nutshell, I'm just major villain. And we had. And we had his son Grant, who died right away trying to kill the Teen Titans, and then his other son, Joey Jericho. You might have heard of him. Joseph was a good guy and then a bad guy and then a good guy and then a bad guy and then a good guy and then a bad guy. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Typical wrestling story. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, he had more. He turned baby face and heel more times than the big show in WWE. And then they introduced Rose Wilson in Deathstroke the Terminator in 1992. And at this time, they're really trying to push Ravager as a character of the Teen Titans. She basically, after, and just to give you a little setup for the book, after, after infinite Crisis, the whole DC universe sort of has this, like, one year later kind of thing. [00:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:20] Speaker A: And she basically shows up as part of the Teen Titans in this sort of one year gap, they had a couple of other characters show up, like Kid Devil and some other characters. So basically. And this was all sort of Geoff John's universe creating and adding some different characters and some different things, which was kind of cool. And so anyway. Anyway, as moral of the story is, they wrote basically a mini series trying to capitalize on the success of Teen Titans that Geoff Johns had done. McKeever's writing it now, and they have this group of terror Titans, and they sort of have this side story. The side story is also sort of related to Darkseid, which means we accidentally picked something that almost sort of ties to our last thing. So you'll see some. You'll see some dark side henchmen get murdered soon in this book. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Nice. Everybody in this book is bad. Terror titans, part one. The basis of optimism. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Okay, well, let's go. Oh, yeah. Dreadbolt and all those people, too. Yeah. [00:15:38] Speaker B: Okay. I didn't get to that page. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Oh, my bad. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Then you start telling. You started to complain about the dogs and the not. Not muting and everything. So I was like, all right, cool. You're gonna. [00:15:48] Speaker A: This is the most professional opening we've ever had for a podcast ever. I mean, it is the best, folks. [00:15:53] Speaker B: This is why you come back every. Every week for this kind of fantastic coverage. [00:15:58] Speaker A: And, you know, it'd be amazing, by the way, if this comic had fucking page numbers. [00:16:04] Speaker B: You know, that's why I love it so much. It doesn't have page numbers, and it makes me feel so akin to it. [00:16:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:12] Speaker B: You know, people, Dan is already into that drink that Arnold Palmer is doing them. Well, in fact. [00:16:18] Speaker A: In fact, no dropping some bombs. I've decided I'm gonna get you a present. I just gotta figure out how to purchase it. [00:16:25] Speaker B: Oh, no. Is it a page number? [00:16:27] Speaker A: No, I sent you the proof for it. It's gonna be a big t shirt that says, I click the button with the funny book forensics logo on the back of it. [00:16:36] Speaker B: I clicked the button. Yeah, people. [00:16:40] Speaker A: And mine's gonna say, esteemed member of the media. [00:16:44] Speaker B: Esteemed member of the media. And then we're gonna be wearing it when we go to conventions that we are just visiting, such as summer con this summer. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Well, I might wear a project nerd shirt if I ever got one. [00:16:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? Well, we just have to wear. To put an order in for a project nerds shirt with our names and numbers on the back. If they still do the names and numbers on the backs of the project nerds. Like jerseys and shirts. [00:17:10] Speaker A: Maybe they do. I don't know. Well, anyway, it looks like these guys are attacking the other guys. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a fight with the persuader and the disruptor and deadbolt and serpentor. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Against a whole bunch of these titans that showed up out of nowhere or were there during that one year period. So basically, it's to, I guess it's time to kill the people Geoff Johns made. I guess. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, because that's what Sean McGeever wants. [00:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, new writer. I mean, you clean house, right? Like, you know, in the Legion books we were reading, you marry the characters off so they can't be in the legion anymore, right? [00:17:52] Speaker B: Mm hmm. Yeah. [00:17:54] Speaker A: And here, you just murder all the characters, right? Like it or. I don't know. Well, anyway, first things first. It looks like, I would say, plastic man's son, so that is plastic man's son, by the way, the offspring. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:12] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:13] Speaker A: His name is Luke O'Brien. [00:18:17] Speaker B: Okay. Luke O'Brien. [00:18:19] Speaker A: If you know. What do you know? Do you even know past plastic man's real name? No, that's what I figured. [00:18:25] Speaker B: So just knew his plastic man. [00:18:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you know, he. Plastic man's been around a long time. Yeah. [00:18:33] Speaker B: He's really stretched over history. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say his. He. He stretched out his welcome. I'm with you. Like. [00:18:43] Speaker B: I said, he stretched over history. I didn't say stretch. I was welcome. [00:18:46] Speaker A: Well, anyway, it's. I think I have an old plastic man book over here somewhere, but anyway. Yeah, yeah, I know it shocks you that I might have an old comic book sitting over here somewhere. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Really? That's a surprise. [00:18:57] Speaker A: I know. Big surprise. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Couple comic books. [00:19:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Look at you. Mister comics over there. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Mister comics over there. Dan and his spinner rack and his boxes of books. [00:19:10] Speaker A: Well, well, anyway, we get. So we get a little. We get a little O'Brien action here, and then we've got. We get some. I don't know what's happening here. Oh, there we go. Okay, so then we get Aqua girl, aqua lad, aqua lass, aqua girl, aqua woman. This is not the Aqua girl from, like, the original teen titans, though. She shows up in Aquaman in 2016, 2004. So it's like a different. She has, like, a different origin and stuff. Apparently, she, like, lived in San Diego or something in a city called Sub San Diego. [00:19:55] Speaker B: Sub San Diego. San Diego. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Atlantis West, I guess. Oh, my thought is her city was created when an Atlantis cruise ship sank, and then all that was left was people that could survive in the water. [00:20:12] Speaker B: Okay, that makes sense. I mean, you know, it's it's. It's kind of like a membership only type. Type club. You gotta be able to survive underwater. And then they have some memberships to those who can live underwater and they have this whole community and stuff like that. People can live underwater. Cool houses and stuff like that. Nice Costco. Really good schools and stuff like that. Underwater golf, you know, really nice, good suburb. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, then we get fire district. Yeah. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Then we never get some fire underwater. [00:20:47] Speaker A: Well, then we. Then we get a new character that's disrupter. She's one of the terror titans. She appeared with the terror titans and teen titans and apparently she was a trash can baby, as discovered in a trash can. [00:21:06] Speaker B: Oh. [00:21:06] Speaker A: And sent to live in an orphanage. This sounds terrible. No wonder she's. [00:21:10] Speaker B: That sounds. That. That's very. That's a very nineties. It's very nineties. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Yeah. This is 2000, so. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I know. It's a very, like, a very like. I. It's a very like. I grew up in the nineties. We had this type of thing in the nineties. I'm writing stuff in the two thousands. Trashcan baby. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Yep. And then we have the star spangled kid. Somehow, like, I thought Sylvester Pemberton died a long time ago, so I'm not sure what's going on. Isn't that how. Isn't that why Stargirl ended up with all the stuff? Like. Well, anyway. Okay, unless you're watching the tv show, then Sylvester Pemberton comes back, but. Okay, well, anyway, and then we have Tara, who is not the Tara you're thinking. This Tara actually, like, lives in some other, like, in a shoe kind of. She lives in, like, a interdimensional space or something? [00:22:00] Speaker B: Oh, in a pocket universe. [00:22:02] Speaker A: She. No, she lives deep below the. She's intra terrestrial. She leaves deep below the planet's surface, so. [00:22:08] Speaker B: Oh, like in dig dug? [00:22:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:11] Speaker B: Okay, cool. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Sweet. [00:22:12] Speaker B: She's got a cool backpack. [00:22:14] Speaker A: She conveniently has the same genetic template as powers as Tara Markov, but she's. Anyway, she showed up in Supergirl, apparently. You notice we're just collecting cast offs and putting them in a book. That's usually a successful book for marketing. That's usually good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we have a copperhead who's a bad guy. [00:22:40] Speaker B: It's not Serpentor. [00:22:41] Speaker A: It's not Serpentor. No, it's the copperhead. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Serpentorhead. [00:22:45] Speaker A: This copperhead, he first appeared in Teen Titans, volume three, number 56 as well. [00:22:51] Speaker B: So he identifies as a snake. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Apparently, Nathan drowned his baby sibling out of jealousy, but was never accused one day, he pulled a knife on his parents and ran away for a brief period. Oh, my God, this is so terrible. Like, I hate the writer right now. For a brief period, he supported himself as a male prostitute, but after he killed one of his clients and stole his wallet, that did not last. [00:23:24] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:24] Speaker A: Under unknown circumstances, he gained the copperhead costume. So this is not the copperhead you're thinking of. This is a different one. This all seems very. Wait, homophobic. Was the nineties. [00:23:38] Speaker B: Was the client that he killed the copperhead? [00:23:43] Speaker A: I. Maybe. [00:23:46] Speaker B: And that's how he gained the suit. Oh, boy. [00:23:49] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah, no, you're very right. Like, the writing for that whole entire bio of his character is very, like. That's very cringe worthy. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Well, then we get a stream with black bolt and Zachary Zatara, who is clearly related to the Zataras the magician Zatara, since he's wearing the outfit. Right. Like, we get. This is not. This is not bolt. This is Bolt's son, black bolt. So this is an actual character? I think so. There. There is that. Yeah. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Legacy. [00:24:32] Speaker A: I just. I hate it. Like, his name is Terrence. His name is Dreadbolt. Sorry. Dreadbolt. [00:24:42] Speaker B: Dreadbolt. [00:24:42] Speaker A: Dreadbolt. Yes. [00:24:44] Speaker B: Not deadbolt like a lock, but he's a dreadbolt. Like something you don't like, the kind of lock that you hate because it doesn't always, like, latch when you're trying to lock it. [00:24:52] Speaker A: And he was such a great character that there were six issues of this series, and he appeared in a grand total of six more appearances in the DC universe, so. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Oh, that's good. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we have Zachary Zatara here, and. Yeah, he is just a magician. That's, like, his cousin is a tana, and the other zataras are his, like, uncle and aunt, I guess. Okay, well, there we go. And he showed up during the Teen Titans, too. Yeah. And then he briefly, but apparently he had little tact and patience and modesty when it came to his skills, so. [00:25:39] Speaker B: I see. [00:25:40] Speaker A: And. Yeah, and then we get a big fight with everybody. They're fighting, fighting. Oh, man. [00:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:25:46] Speaker A: And we get some great lines like persuader. I got silly putty here. [00:25:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:53] Speaker A: And somebody says disruptor when they're fighting. Aqualad. Aqua. I keep saying aqualad. Aqua girl. Aqua woman. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Aqua girl. [00:26:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's like, doesn't need a babysitter. Height. And then we see the molecule guy, who finally we see molecule there. I'll introduce molecule in a second, and he's getting, like, hit by the copperhead thing. And anyway, basically, it looks like those guys win. The bad guys, they start taking all the good guys and putting them in a van, and then molekule tries to walk away. And I'll go ahead and let you know who this is here in a second, because it's really important. He lasts a long time, this molecule guy. [00:26:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:48] Speaker A: And in line with infinite crisis, where we kill lots of teen titans. [00:26:56] Speaker B: Uh huh. [00:26:59] Speaker A: We've got another one dying here because the persuader, who we haven't introduced. Ah, the persuader. Sorry. Her name is. As I flip through all these freaking pages of people, because this is like, this is what happens when you go to a book that nobody's actually read and then none of the characters anybody's heard of. I mean, this has got to be invigorating for the audience. We've got the persuader, Elise Kimball, who is somehow related to the persuader in the fatal five in legion. [00:27:31] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:32] Speaker A: And has the atomic axe from the future. [00:27:35] Speaker B: Wow. [00:27:35] Speaker A: For some reason. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Okay. That's it. That's what I got for you. [00:27:40] Speaker B: All right. And what about the molecule? [00:27:45] Speaker A: Well, the molecule is a guy that showed up, like, in a picture in the one year gap, and that's all we know about him. He was pictured in a scrapbook. His name is unknown. His origin is unknown. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:28:04] Speaker A: And he gets sliced in half by the. The persuader right away. [00:28:10] Speaker B: Shick. [00:28:10] Speaker A: And he's dead. [00:28:12] Speaker B: And he's dead. Oh, wow. So he was, like, in and out. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Bam. [00:28:16] Speaker B: Just like that. [00:28:17] Speaker A: So he made two appearances, or. No, he made four appearances, apparently, but mostly they were in a picture. [00:28:26] Speaker B: He made four and a half, Dan. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I guess it didn't. Yeah. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Cause he's cutting half. [00:28:32] Speaker A: I guess he was in a couple issues. Teen Titans 38 42, terror titans one, and new 52, where he put it in the picture 32, because that was that one year later thing, you know? Well, anyway. Okay. I did love most. I did, like, this hero of comics until this. Yeah, this is about when I was getting burnt out on this book pretty quickly, and then they're like, oh, murderers. Murderers. [00:28:55] Speaker B: Yeah. You didn't even give the. Give the folks the lineup of who brought them this fine book. [00:29:02] Speaker A: Oh. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Oh, you skipped right over. [00:29:04] Speaker A: Well, that was probably intentional, since I didn't want to share that. [00:29:09] Speaker B: You skip over it. Well, I think we can induct. [00:29:12] Speaker A: We can induct these folks into the funny book forensics hall of shame. So first ever. So we've got writer Sean McKeever, penciler Joe Bennett, inker Jack Jadson, colorist Ron Rice, letters, Travis Lanham. And editors. There are three of them. Rex Ogle, Elizabeth B. V. Gurlein. And your esteemed head editor of. Executive editor of DC Comics, Dan Didio. [00:29:43] Speaker B: So that's a lot of. It's a lot of folks on the editing. [00:29:50] Speaker A: There were a lot of editors there that, you know, when you have that many editors on a book, it'd be nice to have, say, like, editors notes that tell you who the fuck these people are. [00:30:03] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's a big book with a lot of characters, a lot of moving parts and stuff like that. But I mean, also, too, if people get the references, there's a. You know, when you watch a show, like too many cooks, well, then things don't make sense. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Then we get next page. [00:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:22] Speaker A: And we got people in cells. We've got the star spangled kid in a cell at the dark side club. Yeah, conveniently dark side club. You know, we just had a series, like, the year before called the death of new. New gods. Where, like, the new gods died. Yeah, conveniently, yeah. And now we have some things that look very dark side. Like everything. Dark side is everything. Freedom is slavery. Compassion is cruel. It's like the stupid version of what Jack Kirby was trying to do in the seventies. It's like if you took all the new God stories in the seventies. And you summed it up into something a three year old could understand. You have this panel you took. [00:31:03] Speaker B: Yeah. You took away all the. [00:31:05] Speaker A: All of the meaning and the subtext and, you know. Yeah, yeah. [00:31:09] Speaker B: That subtext and the good stuff that makes the story. And you gave it the. The watered down crayola version. There you go. [00:31:17] Speaker A: Well, that's what we got. So, uh, and become just that. Uh, then we flip the page and, uh, it looks like, uh, we find out. Oh, wait, it's the clock king. What the hell? Okay, I know who that is. But it's not the clock king you're thinking of, because it's the new clock king. We find out that the dark side club is a cult. Founded on the belief that its members were to become dark gods. [00:31:47] Speaker B: Ah, dark gods. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Sort of like, you know, I don't know if it's anything like. Isn't there another club that had mutants in it, and they were trying to, like, control the world and were sort of cultish? [00:32:01] Speaker B: Whoa, hold on a second. Where there was, like, some. Somebody named Emma and there was a robot guy, like your gun maker and maybe, like, some really rich dude and some wizard. Whatever. I don't know, man. I don't know. What you're talking about. And they, and they're all about hell and fire. What? [00:32:27] Speaker A: Well, the good news, hell and fire, I thought. [00:32:31] Speaker B: Huh? [00:32:31] Speaker A: What you mean, you mean, you mean on like. What are you talking about? Hellfire club, you mean? Wait, are you talking about the d and d kids, right, with the d and d kids? [00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they like to put d and D, right? [00:32:51] Speaker A: Are you talking about. Yeah, well anyway, how did they get away with that by the way? Anyway, so I have no clue. Yeah, the, so we get screen and I see a character, I actually knew a character named fever. I remembered this character, I was like, oh, that's cool. How did she get here? Cause I hadn't seen her since Doom Patrol. Well, they launched it. It's one of the versions of Doom Patrol that got me to stop being tricked into buying Doom Patrol because they relaunched Doom patrol. Yeah, and robot man took a bunch of like new mutants, I mean new heroes and tried to get them together and like mentor them and it was like a, they were like a paid for sort of team. It was like a kind of reality show type weird sort of thing. It was okay, it did not last long and. Yeah, so there you go. It didn't last long. And then, you know, Gerard way ends up writing Doom Patrol later and I didn't buy any of it because I was like, they're not going to trick me into buying another fucking doom patrol book. And they did and they did not. I did not buy any of them and they were amazing. And then I couldn't afford to go back and buy them so maybe I could now. Cuz you know, comic, used comic prices have dropped in like half, but go pick him up. Yeah, probably. Now we probably just find him in the dollar bin because that Gerard ways guy, his career went nowhere and he had nothing. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Not ever heard of him. [00:34:20] Speaker A: No, he was in the black parade and disappeared like it was done. [00:34:25] Speaker B: It's just super sad, dude. You know, he's just a super sad guy making sad music and just being sad all the time and just, well. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Anyway, it looks like the Star Spangled kid fights fever and gets his ass kicked. And there we go. So now we see the clock king talking to Rose Wilson. The Ravager. Ravager. Not Ravager, but Ravager. Ravager. Ravager. Ravager. [00:34:53] Speaker B: Just Ravager. I'm glad we're introduced to them as clock king Ravager. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it's nice when you have an editorial note letting you know who the fucking characters are, so. But we still get really no back. Like anything. Like, if you weren't. Well, the thing is, like, if you're picking this up off the shelf, I guess they just assume you're reading teen titans if you buy this and it's in your poll list, because you ain't picking this up off the shelf. [00:35:21] Speaker B: Uh oh. Nope. It's not something that if you don't know, if you don't have a clue as to what it is, you're not gonna buy it. [00:35:29] Speaker A: And clearly I bought it, so I'm the sucker here. So anyway, it's a. Well, anyway, they have a nice conversation and they're being all sassy with each other. Yeah, and clocking's like, you're not here to spy on me, are you? And she's like, no, I'm not. Of course I'm not. Duh. You're a moron. And she's like, I'm a killer. Haha. And then they get to the thing, and the clock king starts going on about the Fegan bomb constant, and it predicts the occurrence of chaos in any system. He just starts going on about that, like 4.669. I don't know where this is. This seems random. Yeah, and Rose also seems to think that she's like, you didn't really answer my questions. You're just talking about nonsense. Yeah, and anyway, and she's like, we're not our puppet. And then we find out she's hooked on adrenaline. [00:36:33] Speaker B: I need adrenaline. Give it to me. [00:36:35] Speaker A: Because it triggers her precognitive state. So apparently she can predict movement. Well, anyway, she can see that the star Spangled kid is going to lose to fever. And then fever has this weird eye. It's like looking like she's. Yeah, and all the fans are watching, and we got some dude that's gonna say whether they live or die. And he's like, yeah, it's okay. Keep that star Spangled kid alive. So they keep the star Spangled kid alive even though he's already dead. [00:37:09] Speaker B: He's pretty beat up. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Well, I don't mean here. He's dead. [00:37:13] Speaker B: Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, he's dead dead. I mean, he's dead in the books, but he's alive in this one. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Apparently you can do whatever you want in writing, man. [00:37:23] Speaker A: And then they sell some superhero costumes to the people watching, watching kids beat each other. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Merchandise, merchandise, merchandise, merchandise. Get it here at the t shirt merch booth. [00:37:33] Speaker A: So presumably these are the Teen Titans fighting the terror Titans and a bunch of teenage superheroes. And then they're in a fight pit. And then they're trying to murder each other. [00:37:42] Speaker B: It's like, you know, hey, come on down to the mortal Kombat fight pit. The street fighter fight pit. Whatever you want to call it. It's pit fighter. Oh, my God. Good game. Love the graphics. [00:37:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, Marvel didn't do this in, like, the frickin, you know, eighties or anything. [00:37:56] Speaker B: What? I don't know what you're talking about. [00:37:58] Speaker A: Yeah. At all. Yeah. Except we bought the issues. We bought contest of champions. Like, didn't we like contest champions? [00:38:05] Speaker B: And then they did it again on an island. They did it. They did the whole. [00:38:08] Speaker A: And the DC had villains fight each other in one book. I actually like that. Yeah, that was. That was. Yeah, well, and then roulette, that roulette character that was introduced by Morrison in JLA. I mean, that never happened either, right? Like, we didn't do the same thing, wasn't it? Morrison introduced roulette. [00:38:25] Speaker B: I think so. [00:38:26] Speaker A: And Roulette was even on the cartoon, right? Roulette was on the Justice League cartoon too. [00:38:32] Speaker B: I think so. [00:38:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, so, so way. Way to go. Brand new concept here. Brand new concepts. And people own a club and they get people together and they make them fight. I mean, totally brand new concepts, but. [00:38:44] Speaker B: It'S the cult aspect that they're cult. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Oh, like brother Blood and the Teen Titans. Another brand new concept introduced here right in the story. [00:38:55] Speaker B: I mean, you're saying it. I understand it. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Oh, God. Okay, anyway, so now we get a bunch of people talking and all the terror titans are talking. Basically, I'm gonna summarize this entire page by. They're all just talking about who's swings bigger. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're. [00:39:18] Speaker A: And they're undecided. [00:39:20] Speaker B: They're undecided. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And then Ravager, like, pops in and she's like, I know, I'm gonna do some stuff. Ha ha. I'll beat. Disrupt her up. She looks weak. [00:39:31] Speaker B: You all suck. Yeah. She's like, you all suck. [00:39:35] Speaker A: And then she beats disruptor up. And then clock King comes in, is like, stop it, guys. Stop it. He's about as effective as Tony Khan was against the young bucks there. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Don't fight, don't fight, don't fight. [00:39:49] Speaker A: And he gets beat up. And I was talking. I wasn't even talking the real fight. I was like, he got fake beat. So get this, okay? This is why I don't watch all elite wrestling anymore. They had a real fight, right? And then they fired the guy who had the real fight, right? They fire and then they. And then he's. Tony Khan goes out on tv. He's like, yeah, I was scared for my life, so I had to fire that guy, CM punk. Okay, so then last week, which is not last week when we released this podcast, but just go with it. Yeah, I'm with the young bucks and Jack Perry, son of Luke Perry, for those of you that don't know. Beat the shit out of him in the ring. And he walks around in media with a neck brace on, but he hasn't gone back in and said, I was scared for my life. I have to fire these guys. Like, you can't go on tv and go like, I've got to fire this guy because I was scared for my life. And then run a fake thing where you fake get beat up and rock around in a neck brace and expect anybody to think you have any fucking credibility at all. It's like, when I watch things, I would like to suspend the disbelief. So, like, I would like it to at least make fucking sense. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:08] Speaker A: And I think this is a lesson that the author of this comic can learn. [00:41:14] Speaker B: I don't know. I kind of like it, man. [00:41:19] Speaker A: You? Why? [00:41:22] Speaker B: Because I like garbage tv. And this, to me, is a garbage is like. It's a. It's. It's the same kind of concept. I'm like. I'm just like, wow, what would you. [00:41:32] Speaker A: Plop down your fucking $2.99 or whatever the price of this book was, right? Like, it's. [00:41:39] Speaker B: You know, if I found $2.99. [00:41:42] Speaker A: If you found the whole run for, like, $5. [00:41:45] Speaker B: If I found the whole run for, like, $6. [00:41:48] Speaker A: Well, I'm sure you could get it for $0.50 apiece now under $10, I. [00:41:53] Speaker B: Would probably buy it and I would enjoy it and read it. I'd be like, this is all right. It's not. I understand the concept, what you're saying, though. If I was to buy this new, like. And I was. I was feverishly waiting. Waiting for a new issue to come out, and this first issue dropped, and I was reading it, and I was like, what the hell is going on? This is like, well, this is the. [00:42:18] Speaker A: Point where you're ordering a couple months ahead, too, because you're buying shops, right? Yeah. And I'm stuck with this shit, and. [00:42:26] Speaker B: I'm sold on this thing, and I get this book that is like. It's literally like, opening up a. Like a reality tv episode, and I'm buying a scripted reality tv episode of a comic book with comic book characters doing all the stuff. And that's how it feels to me. And it's like, you know, they're doing their fighting, they're being told what to do, do how to do it and stuff like that. And, but, you know, there are consequences and stuff. But it's very, it's very much like this, what we're picking up on the behind the scenes. It's like everybody knows their, everybody knows their roles. It's, you know, it's a fight club for the folks that want to be there to watch it, but it's, you know, it's, for the most part, it's like, okay, cool. You know, they're going to do their thing and everybody, everybody knows that it's what it is. [00:43:25] Speaker A: Well, should we turn the page and see what happens next if your opinion changes? [00:43:31] Speaker B: No, no, I've read the book. I know exactly what happens. But up to this page, I'd be like, oh, man, this is baa, you know. [00:43:39] Speaker A: Okay, well, we get introduced to a guy named Steppenwolf, which can, there's only one Steppenwolf in the DC universe. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:47] Speaker A: One of Darkseid's henchmen. And I'm like, I'm reading this the first time. I'm like, why is Steppenwolf dressed in a suit? But then I remember, we gotta remember, they just had that death of the new gods thing. So some weird shit's happening with the new gods. So probably at least this version of Steppenwolf, his last appearance. Just remember that Zack Snyder saw it. Steppenwolf was so important that he should be the main villain in the Justice League movie. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Whole entire movie. [00:44:18] Speaker A: And you, Zack Snyder, God, I'm pretty. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Sure you and I both were like, he's, he's like, like a mid, a mid level manager in a corporation. He's like the guy that tells you. All right, everybody, the pizza party is happening at twelve. We all better be there because the, the vice president's gonna come in on a Skype call. [00:44:45] Speaker A: Yeah, guys, it's great that that's Steppenwolf. [00:44:49] Speaker B: If you don't know. [00:44:50] Speaker A: I mean, according to the DC database. Well, anyway, yeah, that's it. And then we get some. Anyway, they leave, like, Dreadbolt, who I keep wanting to call black Bolt Dreadbolt. But that would be a different character from a different company. So we've got to be careful there. Dreadbolt and goes walking with Clock King. And they start talking about how they're supposed to be a band of murderers, but Dreadbolt's just not cutting Ed. He's not murdery enough. [00:45:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:25] Speaker A: And clock King's like, you got to go kill your dad. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Kill him. Whose name is body count up boy. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And some guy comes in and, like, yells at clock King. He's like, the fight people can't properly bet if the lineup isn't. She hasn't even proper been properly conditioned. And Ravager goes out to fight fever, who is won all the battles she wins in one kick. And we have a new champion, apparently, and. And we get it. And the guy up front sticks his thumb down. That means she's supposed to kill rap or kill fever, but she does not. And she's, like, yells at the guy. I don't think so, tubby. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Not gonna do it. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Not gonna do it. And then she turns her head and they shoot. They blue beetle. Yeah, they ted cord fever. If you want to go back to that. I think that's in our, like, episode. Like, what, 240? Like, nine or. It's like, way at the beginning. [00:46:41] Speaker B: Way at the beginning. I was. I'm not gonna lie. I was like, oh, yeah. You know, cool. She's done killer. Everything's cool. And then all of a sudden, you hear the. You get to that port, that part, and you're like, whoa. Yeah. Clock king called time of death. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Well, I think the important thing about this book is we've killed another teenage superhero and who appeared in a different thing. And a character. I was like, oh, maybe they're gonna do something with this cool character now that they introduced and then got rid of, and then they murder her immediately. We get to the back page, and probably the most important thing in this book is, true or false? Greg, getting caught with weed can get you kicked off the soccer team. [00:47:33] Speaker B: It'll get you kicked off the soccer team. True. [00:47:41] Speaker A: Two, weed isn't so cool when your baby brother finds you high. [00:47:52] Speaker B: How old are the two of you? [00:47:53] Speaker A: How old? Yeah. Now what are you doing? Like, are you in a safe, enclosed environment? Are you driving? Like, I think if you found him driving high, it'd probably bad. [00:48:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:07] Speaker A: But older brother probably shouldn't be driving baby brother around anyway. [00:48:13] Speaker B: If you are supposed to be the responsible one and there's no one else around, and baby brother comes in and you are just totally. And baby brothers totally too young to fend for themselves, and it's like, I want you, then that's a bad situation. But if baby brother's, like, 13 and you're like, you know, you're like, ah. And they're like, oh, he's doing. He's doing his dumb stuff again. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like. [00:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just, it's like, you know, I mean, because I've seen. I've got cousins. I've seen. Yeah. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Also, this, this from above the influence. [00:49:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:04] Speaker A: Is like, who. Whose idea was it to put abstract. [00:49:08] Speaker B: Art to make it all weird. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Yeah. In a. Cause that's. In a, in a. To get people to say no to pot in a, in a book that has, I mean, I can't say much about the man. That's what you see also. [00:49:28] Speaker B: That's how it, that's how it's, like, inside your mind's eye, Dan. [00:49:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:34] Speaker B: No, I mean, all I know is, like, when, when I was a kid, my older cousins were babysitting me or they're doing whatever, and I'd be like. And they're like, what the hell is wrong with you? [00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah, well, another problem with this book. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Is. Yeah. Another problem with this book is I don't think the art is terrible in this book. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Oh, it's awesome. [00:50:00] Speaker A: I don't, I don't think it's awesome either, but I don't think it's terrible. [00:50:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:06] Speaker A: However. Yeah. Right. Why, okay, you've got this heart rate. Why would you put a, why would you put an advertisement with Billy Tucci Sargent rock art next to this? And then another advertisement with Alex Ross art? [00:50:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:50:39] Speaker A: So you have an, so you're advertising the sergeant rock book, and I'm looking at that Billy Tucci art going, why did I not buy that? [00:50:47] Speaker B: Right? Because that's really good. And then the Alex Ross stuff, and you're like, you already know it's good. [00:50:53] Speaker A: I mean, I was buying that already, so that's. But, yeah, yeah. [00:50:57] Speaker B: It's always fun to hear, to hear Ann ask the question. [00:51:01] Speaker A: Wow. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Like, what? Like, is Alex Ross, like, just some dude that just likes to paint superheroes and, like, his art is just, like, that prolific that he just, like, paints superheroes and they just sell his superhero paintings at all the comic cons. And I'm like, no, Alex Ross. Like, well, yes, that is true. But he also did, like, these comic books that are, like, super amazing. And. And people are very lucky that they got this opportunity to see this amazing artist do this amazing work in comic books. So when I'm going through stuff and I find these books, I'm like, you pull them out and you give them to me. [00:51:40] Speaker A: Yep. [00:51:41] Speaker B: You don't, you don't sell them for $0.99. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I bet she would actually enjoy reading kingdom come. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that one would actually keep her interest, especially just because there's so much going on in it. It might overwhelm her, but other than that. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Well, I think we should move on to, because we have been recording for a minute, maybe terror titans number two. [00:52:10] Speaker B: I suppose, if that's really what you really want to do. [00:52:12] Speaker A: Yep. The tournament begins. It says on the COVID we've got Ravager, the star finger kid. We've got copperhead, we've got persuader, and we've got Dreadbolt, and it looks like disruptors down there. And we've got another. Well, Joe did another cover for us, so it's good. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's. It'll be. [00:52:36] Speaker B: Wow, these are only 299 man comics are 7.99 now. [00:52:40] Speaker A: Well, only yours anyway. Anyway, so. [00:52:49] Speaker B: I buy the good stuff. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Dan, it's. Hey, we got an advertisement for Wall. [00:52:55] Speaker B: E. That's a good movie. And I'm surprised, like, I know the timeframe in which this can we came out. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Can we stop the podcast and just watch Wall E instead of reviewing this book? [00:53:08] Speaker B: We're living in it right now. We're about to all jump into our spaceship and leave the planet, head off to Mars, sit in our chair, touch our pads, drink our big cups. We already got the Stanley cups. We got our iPads. We have our scooter boards. We are almost there. [00:53:26] Speaker A: Well, we get a brief history of Terry going to Mars. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Dan. [00:53:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I transitioned immediately. I don't know why, but we got a brief history of the life of Terry Bola Kinski, which is Dreadbolt, as you'll remember. And we see he's watching his dad create monsters. And he sees his dad in monster movies, and he uses a monster movie gun against a villa, a bully, and he gets beat up. [00:53:52] Speaker B: Bully. [00:53:54] Speaker A: And then his dad starts fighting another movie star, blue devil. And then his dad shows him the costume. And then Terry grows up and takes the costume and starts also creating his own monster movie props. And then the clock king comes to visit him. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:54:20] Speaker A: So that's a brief history of his life. Thank you for that. With no explanation or words, but, you know, cool. I get it. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Okay, quick paste. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. [00:54:31] Speaker A: And to drive it home, we get a first page where they're driving, carrying out fever. Who's. The back of her head is gone. So thank you for showing us that again. I really appreciate that. [00:54:47] Speaker B: Not cool. [00:54:48] Speaker A: We find out they're back at the dark side club in Los Angeles. [00:54:51] Speaker B: They never left, and. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Dreadbolt's all upset because Ravager's in the meeting, and they're having a meeting, and we get another conversation with Steppenwolf, and it's vermin Vunderbar. And they talk about granny dying assumably, presumably granny goodness in the war of the gods or the death of the new gods. Yeah, I see. And then they're all talking and they're telling the clock king what the rules are. And the clock King was supposed to bring in, like, wonder Girl. We found that last issue that we didn't mention it. And they're like. They're basically. They basically, by the way, in the first issue, and I can't believe I glanced over this, they were like, hey, you were supposed to bring in, like, wonder Girl. Like, basically, the people in the story are like, why did you bring us in all these c listers? Nobody wants to pay for that. They literally say that in the first issue of their own comic book, and then they continue to write a comic book that no one wants to read. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Well, they can't kill. They can't kill a listers. They can only kill c listers. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Well, talking about killing sealisters, we kill the sealisters that they used in the movie because the clock King throws some sort of thing and kills vermin, Vanderbar and Steppenwolf. And according in at least in the new earth timeline, that's the last appearance of both of them. So they're dead, and clock King's like, I'm your God. [00:56:22] Speaker B: Ha ha. [00:56:25] Speaker A: And then we get how to learn to be a remote control in minutes. I don't know what's happening right now. Oh, it's another above the influence ad that I have no idea. Let's see what this one does. [00:56:38] Speaker B: I don't have that ad. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Oh, you don't, huh? Well, I do. [00:56:42] Speaker B: No, mine's different. [00:56:44] Speaker A: Yours can't be different because we're reading from the same one. But that's okay. [00:56:48] Speaker B: I don't. Mine goes from the killing of those two gentlemen right into terror titans, part two, making the cut. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, I have that too. Sorry, but I don't have. No. My thing got messed up there. It's. Yeah, I've got it now. We're good. You'll have it. You'll have it too. I just had to get my aligned and pages. [00:57:13] Speaker B: Well, yeah, mine's. Yeah. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Well, terror titans start part two. Making the cut. Sean McIver, Joe Bennett, Jack Jackson, Ron rice. Swans on letters, whoever that is. You know swans? I don't know any person. Rex Ogle, assistant editor Gurlion and didio editors and the COVID Bennett and Johnston. So Joe Bennett and Johnson did the COVID as well. Again, the art is fine here. I'm not hating this. [00:57:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, no, it's good. [00:57:39] Speaker A: It's, I mean, it, it's so nineties. I mean, so 2003. It's not nineties. [00:57:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very, yeah, lots of clean. [00:57:48] Speaker A: It'S, well, it's also brazilian artist, so it's going to be lots of large breasts, lots of clean lines. Like, I can't complain about the clean lines. Yeah. Cool. Like, yeah, I mean, the brazilian art style of this period has a specific style. Right. You get quite a few. Like, and it's, you know, it's good. Like, one. I'm glad comics branched out, like, globally, and it wasn't just going out and getting artists from the Philippines now, like, we're branching out getting artists from Brazil all over the world. That's cool. Brazil has a huge comic book history. They reprinted a crap ton of stuff in Brazil. A lot of Brazilians are legion fans because they reprinted a lot of legion stuff down there. [00:58:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:31] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Yeah, so I, when I was, when I was down there visiting my family. [00:58:38] Speaker A: When I say Brazilians, I meant that, like, just the artist. Sorry, I interrupted you. I just met the artists I've met for Brazil. I don't mean all of brazilian, Brazilians. [00:58:45] Speaker B: Are, yeah, no, no, but when I was down there, I picked up some, some various books, and it's always interesting to read books in other languages. And my, my Portuguese is very, it's as good as my Japanese is because it's, you know, very, very elementary school. So it's kind of fun to read comics because it, being a visual mechanic, you know, it's a very visual storytelling. So it's like you can, you can follow along with the images and stuff like that, but, and pick up the words as you go. It's kind of nice. But just reading through some of these books that I have both in two different languages is interesting. And just to see how they're localized for that area. Area is, is also neat because it's like, oh, okay, cool. I can, I have this, this Captain America book? And, you know, it's, it's interesting because the, the, even though it's, it's the same book, the, the words are slightly different because it's, it's in Portuguese, so there might not be the words for it, so. Or, you know. Anyways, moving on. [01:00:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the good news, we, we get a page of Ravager beating the shit out of everyone. Yeah, all the terror titans. And then she says, thanks for the warm up. And then we get back to the rounds and we're gonna start having some battles here. So Ravager puffs on her drugs, her steroid drugs, and gets a hit, gets ready to fight. She's about to fight some person named TNT and TNT, who made several appearances, all in this miniseries. So it wasn't even a pre existing. This is a brand new one. And anyway, she. She gets told something by disruptor. And anyway, she blasts Ravager a couple of times, and then Ravager cuts her fingers off. [01:00:59] Speaker B: Oh, man. Being a sausages everywhere. [01:01:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And. [01:01:05] Speaker B: Is that where Tina's powers are, in her fingertips? [01:01:08] Speaker A: I guess. I don't know. I have no idea who this character is or what they do because I've never seen this character before. And we don't really get an explanation outside of graphics to say what she does, but a care. [01:01:18] Speaker B: Apparently she has good insurance. [01:01:20] Speaker A: Apparently. Cutting off. Yeah, I don't know. Like, apparently cutting off her finger prints. Finger prints. Finger tips. Finger tips is how you defeat her anyway. And then clocking knows. Hey, she went for the kill. She didn't expect that. Oh, how come that happened? Oh, I don't know. Maybe it was something disrupted it. Well, then we get a series. We get mortal Kombat versus DC. Yeah, advertisements, which, honestly, this art does not look as good as the art in the comic book, so at least we. There's that. Okay. Then we get aqua girl versus the face. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Oh, cool. It's Iggy. Iggy pops face on a torso. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Oh, I thought it was the face of Bo from Doctor who. Well, I mean, it doesn't matter. This is also Face's first appearance, so the face would actually appear in more issues than just this series, though, but not many. And there's he basically. He can project energy blasts from his mouth and eyes, so I don't know that that sounds like any other character. That still sucks. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Not fighting that way, though. [01:02:38] Speaker A: No, he's getting his ass kicked. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:40] Speaker A: Then we get terror versus Zatara. So I guess the titans are fighting each other and terra defeats Zatara. It's amazing how somebody that throws rocks around defeats a super powerful magician. So that's interesting. Pristine versus offspring. So I'm gonna have to tell you about Pristine because here we go again. I have no idea who this is. I probably should, since I read these books, you know, years since I read these books in 2008. I should definitely know who all these folks are. Oh, Pristine was also has no history and appeared here, so. Okay, new. Yeah, so we've learned about Pristine just from this. And Pristine defeats plastic man's kid. And then we turn the page and we get folks watching or playing video games. Sorry. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Yeah, they're playing video games in the hideout there. They're, you know, in the clock kings hideout. [01:03:40] Speaker A: They look like they're beating each other up. So it's like super meta because they're playing like Mortal Kombat type video games while doing mortal Kombat themselves. Yeah. [01:03:50] Speaker B: Oh, hey, I need to unwind and de stress. So let's play this video game and let's beat each other up and rip each other's spines out before we go beat each other up and rip each other's spines out. Oh, I got energy drinking some cookies. Cool. Awesome. [01:04:04] Speaker A: And then, and then, and it's all next to an advertisement for Mortal Kombat, the video game's prima official game guide. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Nice. [01:04:15] Speaker A: So it's meta, like. Yeah, well, anyway, basically they're continuing to pick on. They're continuing to pick on what's her face disruptor. And the other note is like, rose Ravager is noting that, oh, they're all zombified kids. They're fighting. Haha, that sucks. Okay, and then the clock king appears in a, as the specter. [01:04:44] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he's all green and stuff and super tall. [01:04:50] Speaker B: He's like the wizard of Oz, man. [01:04:52] Speaker A: Well, he tells all the terror titans to suit up, so they all do. They all get in their costumes. Then he hangs out with Copperhead on the next page and he asks why he's so secure, insecure. He's like, I've killed lots of people. And he's like, this is our workshop, Copperhead. We're going to make stuff together. Then we flip the page and we get an advertisement for Dragon Ball Z remastered. [01:05:18] Speaker B: Oh, hey. Oh, wow. This is kind of crazy when you think about it. They take all the fighting games and comics and put them into a fighting game. Comic. Comic. [01:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we get also faces of evil, which was a cool. That was fun. [01:05:31] Speaker B: But anyway, was that like a movie where they take all the things that you shouldn't watch and put it into one? [01:05:37] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's a different paintings and art. Boom. Okay, so now we get hard rock versus gypsy. So. [01:05:46] Speaker B: Yes, yes, that's a terrible restaurant. [01:05:48] Speaker A: Yeah, we get another fight. Yes indeed. This, this, folks. Yes indeed. If you were wondering. If you were wondering. Greg? Yeah. DC. Oh, no, I'm wrong. Sorry. If you were wondering. This is not who I thought it was this. Hard rock first appeared in Showcase 96 and made 18 total appearances, so super. He is. His powers are exactly what you think it is. I can't find any history on this guy except for the fact that he was created by Carl Kiesel and Tom Grummett. So hard rock. We like that rock hard Carl Kiesel guy and his impossible Jones stuff. It's fun stuff. [01:06:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I've seen that impossible Jones stuff. I think you left a big old impossible Jones book at my house and. [01:06:40] Speaker A: You never read it. [01:06:41] Speaker B: I have it. [01:06:42] Speaker A: It's over here. Maybe we should review that sometime. [01:06:46] Speaker B: Oh, God, now to read it. [01:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you know, anyway, hard rock defeats Gypsy, and. Yes, that is the gypsy from the Justice League Detroit still hanging. So she can. Gypsy's always good in a one on one fight. Her main power is to blend in with the background of things. So I'm sure this fight went real well for her in a hand to hand combat situation. Yeah. So there you go. [01:07:11] Speaker B: Young Frankenstein. [01:07:13] Speaker A: It's. Anyway, all right, so now we get young Frankenstein versus son of fallen. I know who young Frankenstein is, so I've certainly seen. That's a Teen Titans character that shows up. Son of Fallen. That's son of Fallen's first appearance. Appearance. So. And I don't know that that's gonna last that long. So anyway, yeah, yeah. He made a first appearance and made five total appearances, so. Big time. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, we'll have to find out. Hey, once again. Okay, now Argent shows up. For some reason. I thought Argent was dead by this point, but I am wrong. So resurrected anyway. Argent goes against Sapphire, who I am again. Well, Sapphire. So Argent. Argent was a teen Titan. Argent showed up a bunch of times. Now I'm wrong. No. Argent just appeared in the first Geoff John's run of Teen Titans, so. [01:08:16] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:17] Speaker A: I kind of like the character not going to get real into it, because it's just random here. And then Sapphire. This is a lot of work. This comic book requires a lot of work, and I'm not enjoying it, and it also requires me to do a work. A lot of work. Sapphire basically was part of some group called the power company. Okay? It showed up in JLA 61, I believe. Wasn't booster gold part of that group? [01:08:47] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:08:50] Speaker A: Kurt Busiak and Tom Gromit created this character. So Tom Grumman's involved in creating lots of these characters, apparently, but Kurt Busiak, that guy has done nothing in comics. So anyway, that's the Josiah power thing. Anyway, it looks like she falls into cobra sea serpent submarine while running across impromptu dockside bat dockside battle and got super eggs or something. And she steals an egg, and it bonds to her body and forms a nearly impenetrable second skin, which allows her to battle and escape Cobra's minions. So K Cobra, not C Cobra. Yeah. Okay. She also has some telekinesis powers, apparently, so that's cool. Yeah. No, I was wrong. Let's see who was in power. No, I was completely wrong. So looks like Manhunter was in there, the evil one. Well, anyway, let's roll then. Star sprinkled kid fights a character named Pop Rocket. Pop rocket, who also is making their first appearance here. And they will show up a whole eight times, apparently. Man, you know, these characters that appeared here, they just showed. I mean, this. This comic, these. This. This miniseries had a huge impact on DC Comics. All these characters stuck around. Yeah. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Oh, I mean, they were. They were strong characters that had a longevity in many, many branching series that. That continues their stories through the history of DC. [01:10:37] Speaker A: Well, anyway, the Star Spangled kid defeats pop rocket, who in the middle of the battle looks like it's, like, stuck. Yeah, well, it looks like. Well, pop rocket looks like they come out of their trance, right. And then don't want to hit. And their power looks strangely like somebody else's power named Cannon. Cannon. The cannon. Shooting cannons. Cannon Guthrie. We'll go with Cannon Guthrie. Looks amazing. Like a character, I think, named Cannon Guthrie. Yeah. May have heard of before. Yeah. [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:15] Speaker A: So. Well, anyway. Okay, well, all the battles are done, and apparently that's around, I guess, so maybe. I think for. I think for the podcast, I need you to do me a favor before I really. Well, you need to go back and go ahead and chart me out like a bracket so we can track this tournament. [01:11:35] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Do you think it's gonna actually be that way where we have defeats and where they actually, like, fallen, fallen characters? [01:11:45] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:11:46] Speaker B: Okay, well, we can try, but since. [01:11:49] Speaker A: They killed vermin, Vunderbar. There was nobody to do the thumbs up, thumbs down thing. So it looks like everybody's alive. So they did take care of that. They didn't have to murder everybody right now. [01:11:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. The little Caesar act. Well, we get little Caesar hot and fresh. Hot and ready. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what? This comic book is to comic books as little Caesar's pizza is to pizza. [01:12:14] Speaker B: Oh, delicious and great. [01:12:17] Speaker A: Oh, God. Yeah, that is. Yeah. Oh, God. [01:12:20] Speaker B: Garlic knots. [01:12:21] Speaker A: How could you even say, like, just stop like, oh, God. Okay, so, anyway, we get to the next page, and. Yeah, we've got the persuader. And it just pains me to say, the persuader and. Right. Anyway, we've got the persuader. [01:12:39] Speaker B: Persuader. [01:12:40] Speaker A: We've got. [01:12:41] Speaker B: You want it to be the impromptu. [01:12:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I. We got. That might be a better name. How about the ads? So, the ads. [01:12:54] Speaker B: Ah, the ads. People. People out there don't understand, but the ads is hilarious. [01:12:59] Speaker A: No, it's not. They're usually terrible and sad. Anyways, so it's, uh, the after, after. [01:13:05] Speaker B: Dinner speech for those who don't know. [01:13:07] Speaker A: Have you watched debaters try to tell Joe jokes? Oh, you have? Because I try to tell jokes. And how fucking funny are they? Would you want to listen to me tell jokes for ten minutes? I don't think so. [01:13:18] Speaker B: It's like watching the worst stand up ever, because it's, and it is. It's like when you have a heckler that goes to heckle the stand up comedian and the stand up comedian, it's like, you know what? You want to, you want to do this? Do you want to do this? Do you think you could do this better? And they get up there and they're like, so, yeah, sure, I can do it better. Sure. Okay. Yeah, let me try. So the baseball team is playing today. Who likes, so who likes mom's lasagna? [01:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. So we're good. We get it. So, yeah, we're back to the story and basically persuade her. And. And Dreadbolt are like, yeah, your dad's over here. No, your dad's over here. No, I think my dad's over here. Okay, so persuader goes one way, looking for his dad, and Dreadbolt goes another way, looking for his dad, dreadbolt's dad. And like, oh, he finds dad on the next page. [01:14:20] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:14:21] Speaker A: And then we get an advertisement, and we get DC Nation under construction, next issue in terror titans. Already before the last page, dreadful takes father. Let's get tough. [01:14:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:33] Speaker A: And then we get some book that says spanking Shakespeare. Have you spanked Shakespeare today? Yeah. [01:14:41] Speaker B: Have you? You should spank Shakespeare. Shakespeare. It's bad. [01:14:45] Speaker A: Okay? [01:14:46] Speaker B: Can't tame that shrew. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Well, then instead of putting the ad on the goddamn. I can't. I can't. Fantastic. That's fantastic in every way. [01:14:57] Speaker B: Like, it was terrible. [01:14:59] Speaker A: I was ready to bounce the next page, and, yeah, you killed me. So I think what is about to be fantastic, though, is we get the next page, and we get. Aren't you gonna say hey to your old man? And there's bolt. So we've got Dreadbolt versus bolt. In the next issue, we get an ad for the team TNA Impact wrestling video game, which should tell you how old is, from what I understand. By the way, the AEW wrestling game only has like 3000 people playing it online at this point. [01:15:33] Speaker B: Oh, really? [01:15:34] Speaker A: Apparently if you release a video game that's like halfway done. [01:15:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it's me. It's me. I'm one of those people playing. [01:15:42] Speaker A: How come I've never gotten to play it even though you bought it for us to play? [01:15:46] Speaker B: I bought it for us to play. And it had so many updates that we couldn't play it because you needed to be online for like 2 hours to update it. And every time we were updating it, it just kept crashing that whole first weekend that it was out. [01:16:06] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that would probably lead people not to buy it. Well, the good news is on the back of this cover we have an ad for a movie that literally everybody watched except for me. [01:16:16] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. It's so good. [01:16:19] Speaker A: Oh, God, no. [01:16:20] Speaker B: So, uh, it was filmed here, you know, in the state of Washington. [01:16:23] Speaker A: I know. At Kalama High School in Kalama, Washington. [01:16:28] Speaker B: Kalama, Washington. [01:16:28] Speaker A: Former home of the Pyramid Brewing company. [01:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I. I have gone to all the areas and locations in which this fine film. [01:16:38] Speaker A: Why? Has been filmed on purpose because of Twilight or just because you live here? Because if you went to them on purpose because of twilight, I don't know that we can be friends anymore. [01:16:50] Speaker B: Because when people come to visit the great state of Washington, the first thing that they say they want to do is they want to go see all the locations in which all the fine films that filmed in the state of. [01:17:02] Speaker A: Washington, they want to go to fucking. [01:17:04] Speaker B: Forks and I take them to Kalama. [01:17:09] Speaker A: Okay, well, Klamath. Like a drive by on I five. Like, it's not any anyway. Okay, so, by the way, I'll just say this. So the other day, like, I don't know why. [01:17:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:24] Speaker A: But I. I was going to bed and I couldn't find anything to watch. And then Twilight appeared in the movie. And I've never seen Twilight, but jiu jitsu lawyer Paul was sitting on the couch and I said, jiu jitsu lawyer Paul, I'm going to bed. Yeah. However, I think you should watch Twilight. And I turned it on and then he made it like 15 minutes. And then the next day I was like, yeah, judge. Still, Paul, I'm going to sleep because I work in the morning. But you run a gym and running at your own business means you don't do any work at all. [01:17:56] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [01:17:57] Speaker A: Running it. [01:17:57] Speaker B: Running. [01:17:58] Speaker A: Running your own business means it runs itself. It's like magic. [01:18:01] Speaker B: It runs itself. [01:18:02] Speaker A: And so I turned on Twilight again, and he said the next day he cannot understand why people watch this movie. It has the worst dialogue he's ever seen in a movie. And you know what's great about this? I believe that this, like, this comic and this movie fit together so very well. [01:18:20] Speaker B: Uh huh. [01:18:21] Speaker A: Terrible dialogue, terrible plot. Everything is bad. And it makes me, I mean, it. [01:18:29] Speaker B: Is perfect that there's a, there's an advert, Twilight when Robert Patson plays Batman in the future. So I mean, it. [01:18:37] Speaker A: Oh, God. Oh, God. The worst. [01:18:41] Speaker B: I thought it was a fantastic film. Dan, I don't know what you're saying. Oh, my gosh. Great movie. [01:18:48] Speaker A: How many TikToks went up without my knowledge of me watching that film? Film. [01:18:56] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. So many. I think jiu jitsu Lord Paul probably posted, like, 2020 clips of you just making the angriest, sour faces, flipping off the tv, trying to get up and walk away. But then he was like, you should watch the movie. You wanted to. You rented them. You bought the movie. I don't know if you bought it or rented it. [01:19:19] Speaker A: I did not buy it. I watched it on Max, like, you. [01:19:23] Speaker B: Wanted to watch this movie. Like, we're watching the movie and you're just so mad, like, the whole time, and you're just, like, grumpy faced. It was great. [01:19:32] Speaker A: Well, maybe I should get those and actually post them on our site since it's me. But anyway. [01:19:38] Speaker B: And he kept playing other music over. It was even better because the music he was playing over you making faces, and it was just so good. [01:19:50] Speaker A: Well, anyway, classic. [01:19:52] Speaker B: I mean, you probably got, like, a thousand views, man. [01:19:55] Speaker A: I'm sure. I'm sure. I got zero views. I'm now grumpy cat anyway. [01:20:00] Speaker B: You are grumpy, grumpy cat. [01:20:04] Speaker A: Well, this was a book. There's two issues. We're gonna do issue three and four next time. Apparently, in issue four, we get a special surprise. In fact, it's on the COVID so it's a well hidden surprise. And we're gonna meet static in the DCU. Is this never happened. It's now I, before. I don't want to talk about it too much. We talk about it next issue. But Static was a popular cartoon. Static was in the milestone universe. And this is the series they sought to introduce static to the DC Universe in. [01:20:44] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [01:20:45] Speaker A: Uh huh. [01:20:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:49] Speaker B: This is a thing that happened. [01:20:50] Speaker A: And this is why Marvel Comics makes more money than DC Comics, because their editorial sucks sometimes. [01:21:02] Speaker B: Well, yeah, maybe. Maybe you might be right. [01:21:06] Speaker A: Because if you've got a cartoon franchise and that people liked and the character, and then you introduce them. When did static shock go off the air? [01:21:16] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:21:17] Speaker A: You know what? Let's brush this now. [01:21:19] Speaker B: Let's save it for the next episode. Yeah, I honestly, I'm just gonna say right now, in this episode, I'm enjoying the story, where it's going. I like the interestingness of it. Like I said, it feels like I'm watching an episode of wrestling. It's building up to something, or just like that. Heavily scripted reality tv. Nobody can see my air quotes. It's heavily scripted reality tv. So I'm excited to. To see this type of thing being done. [01:21:59] Speaker A: This comic sucks. [01:22:01] Speaker B: I blame. Like you said, blame Paul. [01:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's awful. I mean, here's the thing, right? We can blame Paul. And again, he. I don't think he knew. I don't think Jujitsu drove knew how bad this was. He should have based it on my reaction on. Why do I appreciate it? [01:22:25] Speaker B: He got excited because it had static in it. [01:22:29] Speaker A: So apparently, Sean McKeever has written many books, so he wrote the Incredible Hulk, sentinel, Mary Jane, inhumans. [01:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah. I was just joking. [01:22:41] Speaker A: In 2005, he won the Eisner award for talent deserving of wider recognition. I don't know if that a word still exists, but, you know. Sure. But, yeah, I mean, wow, this is really terrible. [01:22:58] Speaker B: Hey, you know, you got it. This is. This is one of the things that you. You do for us to read. We do. We read this because others want to. To hear our take on it. So we have to finish the next four books. [01:23:17] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [01:23:18] Speaker B: You're excited. I can tell. [01:23:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm great. This is great. I will make sure we film these at night. We will film, record whatever I say. Words and they don't make any sense, but that's okay. Well, anyway, if you loved this episode of Funny book forensics and you love being sad, you can come back right next to next episode for the next two issues of terror titans. That's terror titans three and four. Of course, you could always just pick up terror titans and read it yourself. I mean, why wouldn't you? I'm sure you can find it for $0.50 anywhere at any fine comic book store in America. Yeah. And on top of that, if you come back and join us, you could always follow us on the project. Dash nerd.com network. You could follow us on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter. You just, you know, get our feed and just listen to it. Any podcast player, like Spotify. [01:24:14] Speaker B: Oh, that. That's a. That's a thing that we're on. [01:24:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:24:18] Speaker B: Get us there. [01:24:20] Speaker A: Apple or podcast addict. But what. [01:24:24] Speaker B: That one. I love that one. [01:24:26] Speaker A: I love that one, too. So. Yeah. And do you have anything to plug right now? Um, Starlight. Look for it on Kickstarter. [01:24:36] Speaker B: Star. [01:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah, Starlight. [01:24:38] Speaker B: We're gonna be. Travis and I were talking and getting really excited about sometime mid next. Mid next month. That means nothing to the listeners. They're not looking at my calendar. [01:24:51] Speaker A: Well, that's why I said, based on when this episode comes out. Yeah, like, when this episode comes out, you should be looking for Starlight. Just leave it up. And then you tried to say dates and things, and I was saying, when this episode comes out, you should be looking for Starlight. [01:25:06] Speaker B: Look for Starlight. Check out the links. Check out that. Check out that. Kickstarter. [01:25:12] Speaker A: Yeah, and, yeah, and, yeah. I mean, and I think the most important thing, if you go to Kickstarter, when they release Starlight, you will get several versions of the song Starlight, star bright, the nursery rhyme make a wish. [01:25:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. That's good. And they're all going to be techno ray versions. So that Travis is. He is made on a Casio keyboard and done. So he's going to have done those. He'll be talking in a high pitched voice with helium. And he will. He. If you. If you back it at $2 million, he will say her name on the track. [01:25:54] Speaker A: Yep. Okay. [01:25:56] Speaker B: $2 million, though. Somebody will back it at $2 million. [01:26:01] Speaker A: $2 million. [01:26:03] Speaker B: $2 million. My grandma always owes me $2 million for her groceries and two hugs. She's pretty light on the hugs, but she's always good for the $2 million. [01:26:13] Speaker A: And the food she makes afterwards. [01:26:15] Speaker B: Yeah, the food, man. She cooks them great food last week. And also, that was bad for her blood work. [01:26:22] Speaker A: Okay, well, anyway, we should finish this thing up. So grandma's cooking, jiu jitsu lawyer Paul Boudreau on 27th and Bridgeport Way in Tacoma, Washington University Place. You could also find Greg at the retro Emporium. [01:26:38] Speaker B: Whoa. Yes. [01:26:40] Speaker A: Relive your childhood. You can find Greg and Ann at the retro Emporium. Greg is usually there on the weekends and sometimes at night, much to my chagrin, when I want to go do fun things. And then. Yes, that's it for now. That's it. We're going to go to Summer Con. Have we picked a day yet? [01:26:58] Speaker B: Summer con? Yeah, yeah. We're going to do the Friday. All right. [01:27:00] Speaker A: We are going to summer Con on Friday. That's fantastic. It is set even though we don't have tickets yet, but it's confirmed. We will be there on Friday the 21 June. You can find us. We will be wearing shirts that say funny book forensics on them. What? Very likely. [01:27:16] Speaker B: And hats. [01:27:17] Speaker A: Greg's shirt will say something like, I click buttons. And my shirt will say something like, esteemed member of the media. [01:27:24] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:27:25] Speaker A: And hot diggity dog. We may even. [01:27:27] Speaker B: Is that why you're asking me questions? [01:27:29] Speaker A: We may even make it to where you could buy said shirts if you wanted to. [01:27:33] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [01:27:34] Speaker A: And we will have a sticker for you. So I probably will use up these stickers. [01:27:39] Speaker B: But, Greg, I have some, too. [01:27:41] Speaker A: I'll make some stickers, maybe even that have, like, a QR code that links to our feed. Oh, that would be cool. Idea. [01:27:48] Speaker B: That is a genius idea. And we might actually have with us someone from project nerd. [01:27:54] Speaker A: What? [01:27:55] Speaker B: What? [01:27:56] Speaker A: Yes. [01:27:58] Speaker B: Surprise. Okay, well, that'd be you or myself and a secret guest. No, no, no. [01:28:06] Speaker A: There might be a secret guest. [01:28:07] Speaker B: Yeah, secret guest. [01:28:10] Speaker A: Okay, stop. We'll talk about secret guests more. [01:28:13] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. [01:28:17] Speaker A: Hey, bye.