Funny Book Forensics 363 We wanted this! We Got!?

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Boy, oh, boy. Dance. Move to baseball tomorrow. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Well, not tomorrow. [00:00:06] Speaker A: Not tomorrow. Oh, well, not tomorrow, but someday. When? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. [00:00:14] Speaker B: It would be in the past, I think. [00:00:16] Speaker A: In the past. Yay. In the past. But, I mean. [00:00:23] Speaker B: It'D be sometimes in the past. It's like a time warp. It's like, I was going to. I went to baseball in Japan. [00:00:30] Speaker A: Baseball in Japan. Well, that'd be cool. [00:00:32] Speaker B: In the past or the future? [00:00:34] Speaker A: In the future. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Wait, is it coming from Japan, make you in the future or going to Japan? We're in the future of Japan right now, right? No, Japan's in the future of us. [00:00:43] Speaker A: In the future of us. So where in the past? In Japan. [00:00:46] Speaker B: So if I was in Japan and I went to baseball in the United States, I would be going into baseball in the past, but right now, if I went to baseball in the future and then came back. Oh, that makes sense. So if I go to baseball in the future, it might be going to baseball tomorrow? [00:01:01] Speaker A: Today, tomorrow in the future. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, that makes sense. That totally makes sense. [00:01:12] Speaker A: We have solved the crisis of the future. Past, present, baseball. [00:01:20] Speaker B: The good news is it makes as much or more sense than this comic book. [00:01:24] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. It is a man versus wolf type of situation right now. [00:01:28] Speaker B: No, it is not. There are no wolves to be found. [00:01:32] Speaker A: To be found as seen on this cover, where it's just Captain America fighting a Wolverine. [00:01:38] Speaker B: This is the dumbest comic book ever. Late. [00:01:42] Speaker A: He's fighting a wolverine. [00:01:43] Speaker B: A wolverine. They promised. They promised. Werewolf, Capman, whoever, whoever. Who recommended this to us again? Tell me. Tell me. [00:01:55] Speaker A: I don't want to say because then you'll just get mad. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Who recommended this to us? [00:02:01] Speaker A: Who recommended this to us? Well, I mean, again, I don't want to say because then you'll just get mad and then you'll be. [00:02:10] Speaker B: I'm already mad. [00:02:12] Speaker A: I don't trust this person ever. [00:02:13] Speaker B: I'm already mad. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Listener Jason recommended this. [00:02:25] Speaker B: Didn't you say other listeners recommended this to you? [00:02:28] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. No, we had multiple listeners that recommended Jason. [00:02:32] Speaker B: Was the person pushing Jason. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Jason definitely had mentioned this run, had said that they were coming out more. Captain America, Cap Wolf books. [00:02:45] Speaker B: Well, there is a cap wolf in his howling commandos. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Yes, yes. And I think that's. But the. But we had to read this to get to that because there was all. [00:02:56] Speaker B: We'Re not getting to that. [00:02:58] Speaker A: And so Jason was like, I mean, this is where it's at. And I was like, he's like, it's got it all. I think it's got it all. We're getting a lot of stuff on this cover right here. You got Captain America and Wolverine fighting it up. Wolf's tearing into Captain America with his claws. And there's the moonshine or moon beam. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Moon stain. [00:03:27] Speaker A: Moonstain, the loser. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Wait, no, moonstain. Yeah, you know, I was reading some. I got the third Justice League international omnibus in the mail. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:43] Speaker B: And in the second issue in the book is the Justice League quarterly number two. Where Gnort and the Scarlet skier are going to save us. Yes, from. Yes, from. I'm trying blanking on his name. It's their version of Galactus. But he redecorates planets. He just redecorates them. [00:04:08] Speaker A: He redecorates. [00:04:10] Speaker B: He redecorates them in, like, and neons and all these ugly colors. [00:04:16] Speaker A: He's like the Bob Ross of Galactus. This one needs a happy little tree over here and a nice little. I'm going to give it a little cloud, and then I'm going to. [00:04:28] Speaker B: I think his name is Nebula Man. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Nebula man. I'm going to give it a little russian sunset, whatever that color is. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Yeah, his name is definitely Nebula man. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Okay, that sounds great. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Wait, that can't be right. No, Nebula man looks like he does real things. Hold up. That can't be right. Maybe his name's just Nebula man. [00:04:47] Speaker A: He does things that nebulous can. [00:04:50] Speaker B: Well, anyway, it can't be a nebula man. No. Nebula man. No, that's a different character that came out in Grant. Morris. Grant Morrison. He's like, maybe it is the same character. And you know what? Grant Morrison, we used him in a boring, dreary, plotting plot with lots of dialogue in Grant Morrisonism's way. But Keith Giffen and John Mark Damatis used him in a beautiful way that made him redecorate planets. [00:05:21] Speaker A: There you go. I would read visionaries. [00:05:24] Speaker B: I would read that comic with. And it's the follow up to the adventure that we covered. Yeah, for Justice League Antarctica. Because the scarlet skier. The Scarlet skier is back, too. Because, you know, he's. He's the herald of the guy. Right? [00:05:39] Speaker A: I know. Yeah. The herald of the. Of the redecorator. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Definitely not Nebula Man. I know that. No, Nebula man is a serious, actually real character. [00:05:51] Speaker A: He's nebulizer man. He's so like when you got a really bad chest cold, Nebulizer man comes out and helps you feel better because he. He gets the medicine into your chest real good. Right? [00:06:07] Speaker B: Yes, that's it. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Or vaporizer man. [00:06:10] Speaker B: His name is Mister Nebula. My bad. [00:06:13] Speaker A: Mister nebulizer Man. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Mister Nebula. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Because he's a mister and a nebulizer. He's a two for one type thing prescribed by doctors all over the world. He's a mister and missed things for you. So it gets really good and helps you with that mistiness and gets your nasal passages really clear. And then a nebulizer, which helps get that medication into your chest and lungs. I've been to the doctor in the hospital enough when I was a kid. [00:06:42] Speaker B: I've been on one. And as an adult, they're not too much fun. Did you know? Did you know? Not that I'm changing the subjects from being on a nebulizer or anything. We did just have a major pandemic where people were on nebulizers. That may bring back some bad memories. I don't know if you're wanting to take us down that road. [00:07:01] Speaker A: No, no. [00:07:01] Speaker B: I wanted to shift you back by sharing that. Mister Nebula. [00:07:07] Speaker A: Yes. [00:07:07] Speaker B: So they did not name. They did not parody. They did not parody Norrin Radd for the scarlet skier. Cause that would be too close. But they did for their galactus analog, Mister Nebula. They parodied Norrin Rad's name and called him curtan Rod, Kertan Rod. [00:07:26] Speaker A: That's. I like it. I like it a lot. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:31] Speaker A: He found at bed, bath and beyond. [00:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, this character is way more interesting than what we're reading. Centuries ago, Kurtan Rod was a mere mortal who was decorating a temple built for the two lords mortar, who designed to walk among the mortals for fun. Kurt and Rod offended them, not allowing them to touch or even see a temple redesigning and transported to the realm of madness, where there's no top and down and colors of all forms. Forms to bend the mind and eyes. And that's what made him such a bad designer. It's really depressing. Yeah, that is depressing. He does manipulate cosmic energy. Oh, but he obviously, as you know, he uses it to make planets beautiful in his mind. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Nice. [00:08:18] Speaker B: And who's to say they aren't? You know, who's to say they aren't? [00:08:23] Speaker A: I mean, I think anything is beautiful in the eye of the beholder, except. [00:08:29] Speaker B: The art on this cover. So if we were going to transition to. [00:08:34] Speaker A: Before we get too far into this comic, though, I mean, we've been going on for a few minutes, but before we go too far, I don't want to have a misstep like we did on our last episode. [00:08:46] Speaker B: Oh, really? And I, who had a misstep? [00:08:50] Speaker A: Oh, I think we both did. Dan and I just want to. I want to be the one who helps us get back on track this time. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Really? [00:09:00] Speaker A: Because I want to help you iterate. Not reiterate, but iterate that. That we are on the. What? Network? [00:09:11] Speaker B: You want me to take small steps? [00:09:14] Speaker A: No, I want. [00:09:15] Speaker B: You said you want me to iterate. So you're wanting me to take small, progressive steps to. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Small, progressive steps to get better at pointing out we are on what network? [00:09:27] Speaker B: Well, I believe we are on the project Dash nerd.com network. Or project nerd on Facebook or Instagram. The network. Yay. The network that is all about how to take care of your Oceania oceanic pets. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Oh, so timely. With the giant whale that's just washed up and organized. [00:09:56] Speaker B: No, that's. That's not true. They're not. They're not. Oh, they're not posting about the whale. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Oh, they're posting. Oh, they're posting about the fish that won't eat. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm just letting you know, like, they're giving you some good advice. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Help us feed our fish. [00:10:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So. [00:10:14] Speaker A: And. [00:10:16] Speaker B: And advice on how to spend the holidays. So it's now a pet and holiday advice network. [00:10:22] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Oh, wow. That's a. Some of these memes are these dark. [00:10:29] Speaker B: They try some. They were trying. I know they're trying some different things. I think somebody had a think somebody at Project nerd. I think somebody at Project Nerd was having a bad holiday, so. So they wanted to just cuddle up with their pet fish and do some things that a young adult author like yourself would definitely not be doing. [00:10:49] Speaker A: None of those things. [00:10:51] Speaker B: So, you know, that's what you can learn about it. Project nerd.com. dashing nerds. That's what I am. So it's. Yes. I'm dashing. Yes. I wish they could see the video right now. [00:11:17] Speaker A: I wish people could see the video. Oh, my gosh. This is. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Well, I have the wrong hat on for the video, so. [00:11:23] Speaker A: He has the wrong hat on for the video. I know. I don't. I can put this one on. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Dan, I have some shirts coming in the mail for us, so here we go. Not that one. [00:11:34] Speaker A: That's a perfect hat. That represents dance knowledge. [00:11:41] Speaker B: It represents knowledge. That's the rainbow from the cartoons, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The more, you know, the more, you know, it represents knowledge. Like how to feed your fish. [00:11:52] Speaker A: So how to feed your fish. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Well, boy, I think we've enjoyed the beginning of this podcast far more than we enjoyed the comic book. And, you know, we are. This is funny book. Forensics. If you didn't know if you're listening to us and you let us talk this long, well, you probably knew if you're new to our podcast. We're sorry. We don't know why you're here. But that's okay. It's always good to join. Because I don't know why I'm here either. Reading man and wolf, part three of six. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Now, I think because of the payment plan that I've been. I've been paying, you know, small doses. [00:12:30] Speaker B: Oh, that's iteration. Can that get better? [00:12:32] Speaker A: Inoculate. In. In. Incoculate? [00:12:37] Speaker B: What are you talking about? Incoculate? Like, what? What is the. What are you thinking about? [00:12:43] Speaker A: No, in that. In. Oh, you know, they say when you try to. [00:12:49] Speaker B: You inoculate like a vaccine. [00:12:51] Speaker A: What are you doing when you bring. When you're. When you're bringing forth the. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Evoke? [00:13:00] Speaker A: Invoke? Yes. [00:13:01] Speaker B: You're evo. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Calculating. Incocu. [00:13:03] Speaker B: Not invoke. Evoke. Yeah. You know, I have a degree in words. What are we doing here? I'm not very good at it, but. Yeah, I just make up shit. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Where does it taste like? Peaches? I'm sorry. [00:13:20] Speaker B: Oh, God. Okay, well, man and wolf, part three. Are we trying again? [00:13:27] Speaker A: Three of six. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Now, you said we were getting back on track, and I've tried to get to the book three times now. [00:13:33] Speaker A: Yes. [00:13:36] Speaker B: Well, this time, Wolverine is slicing the cap. Slicing the Captain America logo. [00:13:43] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, I thought he was cutting into Captain America. I was like, oh, no, if he was. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Well, if only that happened and this book ended right now and we didn't get another issue, that'd be fantastic. [00:13:53] Speaker A: No, but he's just the logos torn. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Well, good news. Captain America is fighting Wolverine. Moonstain is in the background, and it says it's cap versus Wolverine. And Moon Hunter is waiting to bury the loser. [00:14:09] Speaker A: No. Someone's gonna die. [00:14:13] Speaker B: I really think Moonstain is a better name. [00:14:16] Speaker A: Moonstain? [00:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you see that? Or shitty lobo, right? Like, we've established that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or is it shiny lobo? [00:14:25] Speaker A: Shiny lobo. [00:14:26] Speaker B: You know what? He is kind of like a shiny Pokemon version of Lobo. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah, if you're going for shinies of Pokemon and Lobo is a Pokemon, this would be the shiny Lobo. [00:14:36] Speaker B: It's like when you finally get that shiny Pokemon, and it's like one fifth of the power of the regular Pokemon you have, but you really want to use the shiny one because it's shiny, but it really sucks and loses all the time. Yeah, yeah. [00:14:50] Speaker A: It's like, ugh. Why. Why did I get that? Why did I pull that one out? [00:14:54] Speaker B: I don't know. It's any. Well, you know what? We should turn the page. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Just get to that. Get to that first page. Children of the night. Oh, yeah. [00:15:04] Speaker B: I was about to make a Bob Seger reference, but I've changed my mind. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Oh, because. Because Captain Doctor. [00:15:12] Speaker B: No, because we were turning the page. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Oh, because we were turning the page. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was because. [00:15:20] Speaker B: You'Re giving me way too much credit. Like. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Well. Cause. Cause doctor. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Steve Rogers, born in the USA, raised to cherish the ideals of democracy, endowed with a superhuman physique and driven to be the most capable combatant in the world. Now, as both lone crusader and leader of the renowned Avengers, which doesn't make any sense, he fights an ongoing battle for liberty, justice, and the american dream. Stan Lee presents Captain America. Stan Lee, who's not even with the company right now, presents Captain America. Stan Lee, who's been run out of Marvel Comics presents Captain America. Stan Lee, who's thinking up stripperella right now? [00:16:06] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, boy. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Well, anyway, how'd that Stan Lee productions thing go? Well, yeah, anyway, we're back with some exposition here, and we find out that doctor says shitty doctor strange in Captain America. [00:16:31] Speaker A: This book is rife with just bad versions of good heroes. [00:16:36] Speaker B: Like, why did they put an eye in the middle of his costume? Why? Like, you could put anything in the middle of that costume, and he's a druid. Shouldn't his costume be, like, green and foresty? [00:16:49] Speaker A: Well, yeah, if he was a dollar bill. [00:16:52] Speaker B: He's also a druid. Can't he just change into a wolf? [00:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he could, but we're going to find out later in this book what he can do with it. [00:17:00] Speaker B: If he has circle of the moon, he can totally just change into a wolf right now. [00:17:04] Speaker A: He probably could. [00:17:06] Speaker B: He's only a cr. One, right? [00:17:10] Speaker A: He can submit. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Even a low level character like this could take care of business. Well, Mark Grenwald is the writer. Still Rick Levins, and all of his swatch marks is still the penciler. Still. We have a new inker. No, we have lots of inkers. [00:17:29] Speaker A: We have lots of inkers. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Danny Bolanotti got tired of trying to ink Rick Levins, so they had to bring in two more. I mean, I don't blame him. He's been doing his best, but, like, a lot, you know, I did my best, but I guess my best wasn't good enough, and. Yeah, so it. Yeah. Don Hudson and Ray kreising step into. To ink this thing. Joe Rosenthal. Joe, how bad is it when the inker gets behind schedule? [00:18:03] Speaker A: I mean, when you got a whole city of wolves, you got an ink, and it's a whole, like. I mean, it's. It's a lot. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Yeah, but how often do you hear the anchor getting behind schedule on a. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Book, on a book of this size where you just, like, got wolf after wolf after wolf on every page? Of course it's gonna be you guys. Look at all that hair, Dan. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Okay, that's fair. I mean, there's. There's a lot of hair. I'm just. It's just not usually the anchor that's getting behind schedule. The anchor getting behind schedule usually means that the pencils. The anchor is getting a really sharp. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, I. I can speak from my own personal experience, but. [00:18:39] Speaker B: We know that of the incur getting behind schedule, you're penciler or. Well, what. Anyway, it was a double task, so. Well, anyway, let's move on. So we get to the next page where we were surrounded by werewolves last time. [00:18:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Now we're just like. It's. I mean, they. They stepped into werewolf enclave. The whole dang town. [00:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Is. It was like. It was amazing. They were rolling. There were werewolves everywhere. Tom Petty was blaring through the loudspeakers. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was. It was like. If you ever seen the movie silver bullet, where there's just one werewolf and a whole bunch of people in town. Imagine the reversal of that, where it's like, a whole bunch of werewolves and, like, one silver bullet. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Is that like teen wolf? Or is that like. [00:19:31] Speaker A: Imagine if it was like, teen wolf, but instead of just one teen wolf, it was all teen wolves and one kid. And one kid. [00:19:38] Speaker B: What if the basketball team was all teen wolves and one kid? [00:19:41] Speaker A: Oh, man. How terrible would that be? [00:19:43] Speaker B: Well, that kid would be riding the bench a lot. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Like, so unruly. That team would be unstoppable, virtually on. You could. You couldn't even stop them. No, they would just be, like, winning all the time or just tearing apart. [00:19:56] Speaker B: People or eating all steroid free. Captain America is kicking the shit out of these werewolves. Now, at some point, did Captain America get the super soldier serum back between when we were reading before and now? [00:20:08] Speaker A: He might have, but I don't know if he's back on the juice or if he's just like, you know, he's just like, hey, it's me in my suit and my shield, and I'm just. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Pumping iron for a guy with some residual tea burning through his system. He sure is beating the shit off some werewolves. [00:20:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he is. He's really, he's putting him to work. [00:20:29] Speaker B: You know, and Doctor Druid, Mister Druid. Yeah, King, Captain Druid. Cap went into the sky. Shitty doctor strange. Yeah. And he just. They're fighting him and he just flew away into the sky and is meditating. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's like, I'm just gonna, like, away. [00:20:51] Speaker B: And the werewolves are trying to get him. Now, I don't really understand this book because last issue, like the werewolves were just wandering around town all chill and like fixing bikes and stuff. But these werewolves are so stupid that they just jump towards shiny objects. [00:21:06] Speaker A: They're like, oh, we've been. Well, I think they've been told to go get them. They're like, oh, they're under the spell. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah, but if they can fix motorcycles, wouldn't they find a better way than just jumping at the dude? [00:21:18] Speaker A: Well, of course they could, but I mean, maybe they're just like animalistic right now. They're thinking like in their animal prime mind. [00:21:28] Speaker B: Oh, well, that's what Doctor Druid says. He says it will be elementary to mesmerize their bestial minds. Yeah, this guy sucks so bad. Like, it just. He doesn't do anything. Well, Captain America goes on about that. Their fangs can't penetrate its battle suit. Is that a thing that I didn't know about? He has a special battle suit. It's impenetrable to fans. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's. Man, did you not know, did you not read all that stuff in like the, in the annual Dan, like, his suit is like impenetrable by where my imagination or. [00:22:08] Speaker B: We cover this book already. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Do we come. We did not cover this book yet. [00:22:13] Speaker B: Are you sure you read it twice? [00:22:16] Speaker A: Because you fell asleep reading it? [00:22:17] Speaker B: Because I remember saying something about the shield, like last time we covered this book. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Oh, no, this is the last time they got in a fight with the wolves. And it was like, oh, this shield sucks. And I was like, yeah, that's right. And when I looked at this page again, and when I looked at this page, I was like, oh yeah, no, that shield does suck. But yeah, it wasn't, it was on, it was. It was when they're fighting them during the daytime. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Okay, but first time. So it's still the same crappy back of the shield. [00:22:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Cuz we didn't have Wolverine on this page doing this thing. [00:22:49] Speaker B: Okay, well, anyway, Doctor Druid is like in the sky and he's making the wolves go fight the wolves. Good job, buddy. Fight them all the werewolves are now fighting each other. Captain America starts floating. [00:23:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:05] Speaker B: And then he gets teleported somewhere else. [00:23:08] Speaker A: It's just like he blinks out. Blap. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that. That happened. And then now Wolverine, who got captured last time by all the wolves. Right? Yeah. Or, well, got captured by moonstain while he was fighting the werewolves. Right? [00:23:25] Speaker A: Correct. [00:23:26] Speaker B: Okay. And then now he's in bed with the weird. With Doctor Nightshade. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Doctor Nightshade. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Now I guess it does make sense. I was about to be critical of, well, something. But you know what? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not this time. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Okay. [00:23:44] Speaker B: You know, we're just gonna leave that alone. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Okay. The needle. [00:23:51] Speaker B: I do like that, actually. That's. It'd be better if it was, like, over his open eye. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Uh huh. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Because that would be great homage to, like, the. The horror comics. That famous cover with the. Yeah, right. But they can't do that. So he's got eyes closed. [00:24:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:09] Speaker B: Wolverine seems like pretty easy defeat in this book. [00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:14] Speaker B: Do we need to change the titles from Cyclops sucks to Wolverine, or everyone hates Cyclops to everyone hates Wolverine. [00:24:20] Speaker A: Like, everyone hates Wolverine. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:23] Speaker A: I mean, at least in this book, man, he's. It's pretty weak. [00:24:26] Speaker B: Well, wasn't Wolverine literally like, every marvel book in 1992? [00:24:31] Speaker A: Like, pretty much, yeah. [00:24:32] Speaker B: Or Spider man. Right. [00:24:33] Speaker A: He was like. He did a lot of the. Shared the double. The double feature issues with him and Ghost Rider. I had a lot of those books in my box when I was. When I was a kid. Like, I had a lot of those books. And, you know, it's like. I mean, I like, I. I don't know if I necessarily liked those books or if I just bought them because it was like, oh, yeah, you're getting two books. You're not getting two books. You're getting two bad stories. [00:25:00] Speaker B: You know, I just having mass. I'm having massive deja vu that we covered this book. I swear that we covered this book. [00:25:06] Speaker A: Cover this book. You read it twice. [00:25:10] Speaker B: I've read it like three times because I sleep. [00:25:13] Speaker A: You felt you kept falling asleep. Because it's so. And it's so. It's so amazing. Cause now you get wolf for Reem. [00:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I see that we only covered issue 403, but. Yeah, I've seen this panel. Yeah, well, he just. He changes. He changes into Wolverine, but he doesn't. Cause his metabolism keeps defeating her drugs. So. [00:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he can't turn into a wolf, so he keeps changing back and she's like, damn. [00:25:41] Speaker B: It. And then he wakes up, and then he gets programmed by the people. He gets programmed by the obscured character in the background. [00:25:55] Speaker A: Yeah. With the. With the goofy eyes. And he's like, no. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And now he's under. Under their control. He's been hypnotized. Ass Wolverine is lame. All right, so, well, anyway, Captain America is yelling at Doctor Druid to put him down as doctor Druid sits with. That's gotta be an uncomfortable sky position, I guess. Like, Ray, how do you sit crisscross applesauce in the sky? [00:26:22] Speaker A: I don't know. Just floating around and stuff like that. Just. [00:26:27] Speaker B: And why does everybody have to sit criss cross applesauce to meditate? Do you know how uncomfortable with large, muscular legs it is to sit crisscross applesauce? [00:26:35] Speaker A: I can imagine it. [00:26:36] Speaker B: You see how his feet are up over his. Like, his feet are up over his thighs. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:42] Speaker B: That is not comfortable. I could probably demo this. I don't think. I don't know. That doesn't look comfortable. I might tear something. [00:26:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's only. It's only. It's only doable if you're like, you know, a mystic. [00:26:55] Speaker B: I see. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Well, doctor Druid. [00:26:59] Speaker B: It's God. [00:27:02] Speaker A: Well, I'm gonna start, like, cosplaying as doctor Druid. [00:27:06] Speaker B: Well, you just need to get it. You just need to get a shirt with an eye in the middle. [00:27:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Are you. [00:27:11] Speaker A: Are you doctor strange? [00:27:12] Speaker B: No, I'm Doctor Drew Druid. Yeah, Druid. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Get it right. Gosh. [00:27:16] Speaker B: What if we went to the. We could go as Doctor Druid and Shitty Lobo. [00:27:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And then just people would be like, who are you guys? That'd be great. [00:27:26] Speaker B: I'm shitty. I'm Shitty Lobo. [00:27:28] Speaker A: I'm shitty doctor. [00:27:29] Speaker B: No, I'm Shiny Lobo. He has a new name this. Well, anyway, Captain America and Doctor Druid talk about. Captain America and Doctor Druid talk about nonsense. [00:27:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:27:47] Speaker B: And then, oh, they distract Shittilobo and he brings. He brings a werewolf with him, and. [00:28:00] Speaker A: He'S got a dog with him. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, and then he's like, oh, you're gonna revert to a human and you're not gonna have any clothes. That breaks my heart. He's just an asshole. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Like, Lobo is awesome and terrible at the same time. This guy is just terrible. So it's the shitty. It's like. Yeah, like, you take Lobo and you take all the parts about, like, murdering Santa Claus away. [00:28:25] Speaker A: Uh huh. [00:28:26] Speaker B: And then you have this guy. [00:28:28] Speaker A: This guy. This guy's terrible. [00:28:31] Speaker B: What was the movie that came out, like, a year ago, where Santa Claus murders all those people that were trying to rob the family. [00:28:38] Speaker A: I know what you're talking about. The one with. [00:28:41] Speaker B: We talked about it on the podcast. [00:28:43] Speaker A: I can't. [00:28:44] Speaker B: Was it fright night? No. Dark Christmas. The dark Christmas. This little put Jim Hansen puppet comes up as Santa Claus and starts murdering everything. It's like the dark crystal. See, I was. Yeah. [00:29:00] Speaker A: Well, carefully. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Well, we're back at headquarters for some exposition here, and somebody strolls in, and it looks like Rosenthal. Bernadette. Her name is Bernie Rosenthal. She's friends with Captain America. Okay, who is that? [00:29:26] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:29:29] Speaker B: How do you not know? [00:29:30] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:29:32] Speaker B: Bernie Roosevelt made his first appearance at Captain America 247 in April 1980. I thought you read these things. [00:29:42] Speaker A: I have thrown away more information from my head to make room for other information. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Oh, she was an attorney. At some point, I can't keep all. [00:29:52] Speaker A: The information in my head. [00:29:53] Speaker B: Okay? [00:29:55] Speaker A: Like, my rolodex gets filled. I lose information. I collect out their information. [00:30:03] Speaker B: Well, anyway, they're all worried about. They're all worried about the wrestler guy who got frozen. [00:30:10] Speaker A: Yes. They take him for a walk. [00:30:13] Speaker B: They're taking him for a walk. Oh, my God. [00:30:15] Speaker A: They take him for a walk in the park, man. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Well, the obscured figure, you know what? I do think it's important. We went from the great Darkness saga, where we had an obscured villain for several issues. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:29] Speaker B: We were trying to figure out who it was. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Who is it? [00:30:31] Speaker B: And then we went to the terrible titans. [00:30:33] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Where the villain was definitely unobscured. [00:30:38] Speaker A: Uh huh. [00:30:38] Speaker B: But sort of was, because you could say that Darkseid was once again obscured. Sort of. It was just written really awfully. And now we have another obscured villain who's playing with moonstones, and they call him Dreadmond. [00:30:52] Speaker A: Dreadmond. [00:30:54] Speaker B: Yeah. But, yeah, he's. Now, I'm gonna. I'm gonna show you something, okay. Because you're probably gonna see it in the future here. Okay, but I'm. We're gonna spoil. I'm gonna spoil something for you. [00:31:10] Speaker A: No. [00:31:11] Speaker B: This character also looks like shitty somebody else. [00:31:17] Speaker A: What? Why would you do that? Why would they do that? [00:31:26] Speaker B: I know, and they keep making shitty versions of their own characters. Like, that's the silly thing. Why not just use. Why not just use the real character? I mean, they had to make Shitty Lobo because Lobo was hot, but they didn't have to make shitty all the other things. I just like, at the same time, I guess it was a couple years earlier, but when Giffen and Damattis are making all the versions of the. The analogs of the Avengers and the analogs of the marvel. They make a joke out of it, right? Like, it's an abject joke, right? They're like. They're not trying to make another cool character, right? They're making somebody who decorates planets and making fun of the whole galactus cosmic thing right here. They're actually trying to make a character that's shitty lobo. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Who's cool and rides a motorcycle thing. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Has metallic hair and darts in their leg, and just this badass. Yeah. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Well, anyway, they get it. The captain America and stuff got away, and this Dreadman guy calls him incompetent, tells him to go, and he's like, come on, boss. So now he's just a pussy. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:32:43] Speaker B: I hate this. [00:32:45] Speaker A: It just. It goes from being tough guy to super lame. Like, now you guys. [00:32:50] Speaker B: And somebody might listening to this podcast criticize me for using the word no. I mean it in the abject sense. It would be used right now. In 1992, right here. Boom. In the hetero masculine world of comic books, I chose the world very, very intentionally. [00:33:10] Speaker A: You time travel, just like we talked about at the beginning of the podcast when we were talking about baseball. Time travel. You did it in the revolution. [00:33:19] Speaker B: Well, no. They're modeling him off a hyper masculine character, and then they're, like, making him a wuss. Like, it's stupid. [00:33:28] Speaker A: And you time travel back to 1992, and you called him out on it. [00:33:33] Speaker B: This is the dumbest thing ever. Like, it's just. [00:33:35] Speaker A: Ugh, it's so bad. [00:33:38] Speaker B: I'm gonna get in trouble now because I said words I'm not supposed to. [00:33:41] Speaker A: Oh, Dan, do you want to blank it out? [00:33:43] Speaker B: No. Oh, there we go. [00:33:45] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I couldn't. It was too late. [00:33:47] Speaker B: I it's just awful. Okay, so, anyway, now Captain America and Doctor Druid are just walking around town where things were getting eaten. [00:33:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And now there's people in town because. [00:33:59] Speaker B: They'Re not wolves anymore, but Doctor Druid is. Is shielding them from people. Kind of like another doctor with the hazmat would do. [00:34:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:34:08] Speaker B: You know, at least they could have given him, like, a unique power set, right? Like, one of the neat things. I mean, I don't. I don't. I don't think Justice League dark is my favorite thing, but at least they had enough magical characters in DC that they could make a whole, like, pseudo Justice League with them because they all had a little bit different. Different power sets and did different things. [00:34:29] Speaker A: But he's just like a base level doctor. He just has like. You know, he's. This is like he rolled out. He got that. He opened up the book. He's like, oh, this is the base level doctor. I rolled out my character. Here I go. I'm ready for the. I'm ready for the campaign. Let's do it, you know? [00:34:50] Speaker B: Well, anyway. [00:34:52] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:34:53] Speaker B: We find out down here. I was just wondering if there might be a chemical basis for the lichen. Throaty. Years ago, I encountered such a pack of wolfmen, my best friend even got turned into one of them. And I thought he was talking about John Jameson, but he's not, apparently. [00:35:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:19] Speaker B: In Captain America, number 164. Or is that 144? 164. [00:35:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:26] Speaker B: The falcon was turned into a werewolf. [00:35:29] Speaker A: No way. [00:35:30] Speaker B: I had no idea. [00:35:33] Speaker A: I had no idea either. So the. So the. The lesson to be learned is if you hang out with the cap, with Captain America, chances are pretty likely you could get turned into a werewolf. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:35:49] Speaker A: I mean, you don't want to hang out with that dude. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's. It was written by Steve Englehart. That's going to hurt your soul. I'll just tell you that right now. But, yeah, here. Oh, my God. You know, it hurts my soul is. [00:36:11] Speaker A: It's. [00:36:12] Speaker B: It's rudimentary Bronze Age art, but it's so much better than what we're looking at right now. [00:36:16] Speaker A: It's not flat. It's not flat. That looks pretty good. Yeah. [00:36:27] Speaker B: I did not. I did not know that the falcon used to carry a falcon around. [00:36:33] Speaker A: That's pretty cool. That's pretty ba. Man. Pretty ba. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Can we read this book instead? [00:36:40] Speaker A: We can. We can. We can. We can go check that out. That's pretty bad. [00:36:44] Speaker B: I mean, the little screen sharing things underneath it so it's. I can't turn the page. [00:36:51] Speaker A: Another time. Another time. [00:36:53] Speaker B: Are you sure? I want to do this now. [00:36:56] Speaker A: We got to read this one. We're almost done, Dan. Or almost. We're. Dan, stop. Stop. We are. We. You can read queen of the werewolves. [00:37:04] Speaker B: And look, they fought werewolves before. Why did we get to read this one? [00:37:09] Speaker A: Because this is. Because man and wolf is the one that we were told to read. [00:37:15] Speaker B: Dan, this looks so much better. Look, they're on motorcycles instead of sky cycles. [00:37:20] Speaker A: That is pretty rad. [00:37:22] Speaker B: Those dirt bikes are rad. Wait, is the falcon on, like, an e bike? Like, what's going on here? [00:37:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think they had e bikes back then, but. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Well, we can go back and read that if you want to look at all those werewolves. This looks so many werewolves. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Okay. This is awesome. [00:37:41] Speaker A: Like, classic cap. The. With the a on the head and with that. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Well, anyway. Okay, well, we're back to. We're back to. You know, I could just share my screen the whole time, and maybe that would be smarter. [00:37:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:57] Speaker B: Well, then you can see where I'm at and. Oh, there's no page numbers. I can't reference them. [00:38:03] Speaker A: I. I know. So. [00:38:08] Speaker B: I'm not even gonna say it. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Oh, you're not gonna say it? It's. It's so much like another book. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah, you said it, not me. So it's. This is. First of all, I didn't want to, like, associate this book with your book at all. So then you turn around and said it. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Well, anyway, page number. Just the page numbers. [00:38:28] Speaker B: We find out. We turn the page, and Wolverine is walking around. I don't know what is behind him. [00:38:43] Speaker A: I don't know who that character is. That character looks like a very scary lady. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Very scary lady. [00:38:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:38:56] Speaker A: I mean, does it not look very scary lady? [00:38:59] Speaker B: Oh, very scary lady. Tells. I don't know what happened there. [00:39:03] Speaker A: Tells Wolverine to siccum. I think you're in the view. Oh, weird, maybe. Weird view. Well, I can look at my own pages. You look at your pages. [00:39:17] Speaker B: Well, the good news is I can't read the book anymore. This is, like, the best possible scenario. [00:39:22] Speaker A: Oh, great. You broke it. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:25] Speaker A: No, Dan. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Sweet. You're gonna have to. Well, you know what? I'm gonna get off here and go ahead and let you cover the rest of the book. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Well, do you want me to share it with you? [00:39:36] Speaker B: No, no. [00:39:37] Speaker A: Oh, well, I can tell you exactly what happens. You want me to tell you what happens? [00:39:41] Speaker B: Because diamondback comes back, and it's the end. [00:39:45] Speaker A: No, we're not there yet. Scary lady sends Wolverine. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. We got a big fight between Wolverine and Captain America. [00:39:53] Speaker A: Yeah, Captain America. Wolverine, scrap it out. Cap's like, wolverine, what's going on? I thought we were friends. And Wolverine. Psych. You don't know the password. And Cap's like, what password? And he's like, oh, no, this isn't always sunny in Philadelphia. [00:40:11] Speaker B: You know what I would say to you? The Grunwald. The Grunwald criticism is back. Because I do think it makes sense to have Captain America, like, saying words to try to get Wolverine to do things. Yeah, but I don't need the thought balloons narrating the fight dialogue. Yeah, because I can see that from. [00:40:29] Speaker A: The wild look in his eyes. Apparently not. [00:40:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's. And then, like, two people like, they knock over a telephone pole and one of the people says, who's the guy in yellow? And they're like, don't ask me. Because, you know, I know the X Men are not very famous around the world or anything, but you would think. [00:40:49] Speaker A: That they would be known enough. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Yeah, well, no, I thought that's what I was thinking. You should know him. Well, Wolverine, like, cuts a telephone pole and a fire hydrant, and they destroy a jeep. And Captain America is wondering where, where Doctor Druid went. [00:41:10] Speaker A: I'm gonna say this whole fight scene, I don't know if you feel this way, but does this fight scene, this whole fight scene, does it not feel like it just fell out of a mad magazine to you? [00:41:20] Speaker B: Kind of does. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I like it, but not for the right reasons. That's the truth. Like, that's the God's honest truth. I like it because it's so bizarre, because the comic before was one type of comic and it was very whatever. And this is a very different, like this. When the fight scene starts, it's a very different. It's like the page turns. This is a different comic. And I'm like, I like this for all the wrong reasons. And it's not because it's good, it's just because it's so bizarre. [00:41:58] Speaker B: Well, eventually, Wolverine tea bags Captain America. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Yeah, he does. And that's, like, hilarious. He's like, boom, take that. [00:42:11] Speaker B: And then shitty Lobo knocks him out with some darts. And then he wakes up and Doctor Nightshade is standing over him. Oh, but apparently that's her costume. So she was a scary lady. [00:42:26] Speaker A: She was a scary lady. [00:42:28] Speaker B: And she's injecting him with some mutinogens and she says, captain, get ready to howl. So I guess in two weeks we're gonna get Captain America. But what did happen to Doctor Druid? [00:42:45] Speaker A: I don't know. Doctor Druid bounced. He's like, deuces, I'm out of here. [00:42:51] Speaker B: I think I may know what happened. I think I may know what happened to Doctor Druid. [00:42:55] Speaker A: He died. [00:42:56] Speaker B: No, I think he becomes Doctor Loki. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Doctor. Oh, he goes, Doctor Loki. [00:43:06] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Yeah. Well, anyway, next issue, we better be getting some captain werewolf. Well, we get back to some really flat, ugly art. And Diamondback is now fighting with crossbones. [00:43:26] Speaker A: Crossbones, which in the dungeon, I'll say. Going from the, like, almost like comical dynamic art, fight art from the, from the Captain America story that we just saw to this very flat. And, like, crossbones doesn't even look like crossbones in this throw. [00:43:49] Speaker B: No, it's like he. It's like he gave up. [00:43:52] Speaker A: It's like he gave up and he shrunk because crossbones is very large and intimidating. Like he's. [00:44:01] Speaker B: It's like when Bane doesn't have the stuff right there. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Yeah, he looks very shrunken. And also like, diamondback looks like she took on his power. Because she looks very, like, large compared to diamondback. [00:44:17] Speaker B: Apparently beats crossbones up enough that he says she graduates. He gives her a rolled up paper bag with dog shit in it and says, here's your graduation present. [00:44:31] Speaker A: And then she awkwardly strips and puts a costume. Costume? [00:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's another bad diamondback costume. And then. Why? She has the worst costumes. Yeah, and then she just leaves. So apparently this whole sequence was a cross between silence of the lambs and silence of the lambs and what v does to evie. So. Way to be creative, Grunwald. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, it's a. Well, now that we have d for di. Dynamic. Demented, disingenuous. Now that. Oh, yes. We could have called this. This story d for disingenuous. [00:45:29] Speaker A: D for disingenuous. Yes. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Well, anyway, she leaves and they. He. So he. Instead of just letting her go, he takes her for a ride. Get me some. He wants some super soldier blood. Okay, so he wants to become a super soldier. But I thought he didn't have any drugs in his blood anymore. [00:45:56] Speaker A: But the. The serum still on, like on. On file back at the Avengers headquarters. [00:46:03] Speaker B: I thought he got rid of it all. He said. He said he was getting rid of it all. He was done with it forever. Drugs are bad and he's not going to have any. [00:46:12] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure they have a backstop. [00:46:15] Speaker B: Captain hypocrite. That's what we're talking about. [00:46:17] Speaker A: I don't think it's necessarily the caps call if they have a little supply leftover. [00:46:22] Speaker B: I think it is. He is the chairperson of the Avengers. And did you not. Do we need to go back to the beginning of the story. Hold up. Let's finish this story. Then I'm going to go back to the beginning of the story to establish. This guy's a dumbass. Now who is? [00:46:38] Speaker A: All of them. [00:46:39] Speaker B: So. Avengers headquarters. We're back. She just walks right in. Cause everybody knows her. This is diamondback. And she just wanders in and she's going to the med lab and they don't know what she's doing. All right? And they're going to find out 30. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Days or 40 days or a year? [00:47:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Just wanders in and remember, he said he couldn't find her, didn't even try. Fell off a boat or something. I was sorry. I was just going back to the beginning to once again. Okay. Endowed with superhuman something. Driven to be the most capable combatant, both lone crusader and leader of the renowned Avengers. Hang on, now. I critiqued that before, and then you're like, oh, but he's a loner. No, somebody else made the decision. No, he is the leader of the Avengers. See? So I believe he does get to make that call. [00:47:41] Speaker A: You know, you could call yourself the leader of something, but we all know that leaders, the best leaders are followers, and the best followers make the best leaders. So if he's a leader, he has to be a follower. And if he's a follower, he has to follow what those around him say. So if those around him say, cap, put the blood in the blood bank and save it for later, he's gonna follow what they say to be the best leader and that. That Dan is being a good leader. [00:48:15] Speaker B: I see. I have. I have thought. Well, I mean, and this dude in the vindicators outfit that they gave Morty in that episode of Rick and Morty is gonna go take care of business. [00:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:30] Speaker A: So I think that cap is. I mean, as much as you want to believe he's the end all, be all, saying everything of the alls, he's not, as you could see before, when he made poor decisions of his own when he was the leader, and everyone else had to come around, rally around to make sure that he was not leading them into leading himself and those around to self destruction. Therefore, I believe we could see in that storyline where he was not the best leader in the sense of that, and therefore, we see that those around him had to help him make the best choices. [00:49:22] Speaker B: Well, I just wanted to. I wanted to turn the page and present a letter presented by Howard T. Kidd from Manila, Iowa, 51454. Or. However, there's no street address here, so I don't get to write Howard to find out. But Howard says, captain America 397 was a good but not great comic book. There was no patriotic soliloquy of the sort I enjoy, but it was a good. But it was good, engaging superhero yarn with some unusual characters. Sounds like a re endorsement right there. [00:50:02] Speaker A: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Very. [00:50:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, this is how we're feeling. I don't think the word good comes into mind, but, you know, well, we get a capital. We get a wolf. So next issue, I see it right here. So I'm, like, very confused, though, because, like, all this whole time, like, the werewolves sometimes are smart and sometimes they're not. But then captain. Captain Wolf's wearing it, holding his shield up. I better not spoil the next issue. [00:50:34] Speaker A: Yeah, you don't want to spoil that. Don't spoil nothing. [00:50:38] Speaker B: All right, well, good news. We survived. It was awful. And I don't. Oh, God. The diamondback backup is unreal. [00:50:52] Speaker A: Oh, boy. [00:50:53] Speaker B: Why would she go steal for him after he captured her, locked her up, and put her in a thing and then let her go, and then she's just like, oh, yeah, I'll work with you now, crossbones. Guy who tried to. Didn't he shoot her in the back, or was that just gangsters? [00:51:10] Speaker A: I think he. I think he. I think he did injure her, but at the same point, I think it's all along con. I think she's trying to. She. She has a plan for him, and she's got crossbones in her sights. [00:51:32] Speaker B: Is that true? [00:51:33] Speaker A: She's using him. She. He's not using her. It's a reversal, Dan. And you'll see when it all comes around. It'll come around. Yeah. I think our diamondback is a sneaky snake. Okay, well, crossbones is a dummy. Dumb. [00:52:04] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. I hate it. [00:52:10] Speaker A: Didn't work. [00:52:11] Speaker B: So. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I can tell. You're like, I hate this book so much. [00:52:16] Speaker B: It sucks. I'm sorry. Like, I don't know how to be happy about this book. It's just the arts bad. The writing is bad. The concept is bad. Wolverine's stupid. Like, it's just like. And I have, like, no explanation for why any of this is happening. We are three issues in, and all I have is shitty doctor strange walking around with Captain America, wandering through shit. Wolverine randomly shows up. We got some werewolf murders. I have no idea why. What's happening? What's going on? This is six issues. What the fuck? [00:52:55] Speaker A: You got crappy analog characters for good characters that don't make any sense, and there's this. This odd. This odd feeling it leaves you with, and then you got. You got your a level characters, and you got these street level characters thrown in the mix. Yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a weird. It's a weird book. It's a weird. It's a weird book. Series or series. It's a. It's a weird story from that aspect. I will say the redeeming thing ABout this issue, the. The one redeeming thing, and I think it was just for me, for me personally, was the. The fight scene with Wolverine in Captain America, because it was so, it was so out of pocket. It just, it was like, it went from, like, the book that we've been reading to this art style and just bonkers. Just. It didn't, it didn't fit the rest of everything elsE. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:04] Speaker A: And I know what they were playing. I feel Like I had this idea. Like, it felt. It really felt like when the introduction to, you know, you got that Hulk and Wolverine story, you know. Oh. And it's like it had that feel. Like it's got that feel, but it's like, it's like you're not gonna get that, that, that over the top miss. [00:54:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:34] Speaker A: So it's. It just was, it was, it was bonkers. [00:54:38] Speaker B: Well, I mean, this book leaves me with real questions. Right. Like, I'm going to Boston soon. Would you sit. Would you pay a lot of money to sit on top the green monster, or would you pay a lot less money to sit by the pesky pole? [00:54:54] Speaker A: Green monster. Because you don't know if the ball is going to get eaten by it or not? [00:54:58] Speaker B: Or would you just go second level, $47 tickets right on the third baseline. [00:55:03] Speaker A: Okay. I mean, as a kid. As a kid growing up, green monster. Like, if I have my. If I had an opportunity to. Green monster all the way, just growing. [00:55:13] Speaker B: Up and watching, that's like $147. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, like, watching games on tv and just, like, just seeing people, you know, bosses get eaten by the green monster. Pesky pool. It's pretty cool. But I mean, green monsters, I don't know. [00:55:32] Speaker B: I get right by the pesky pole, though. [00:55:34] Speaker A: You could get right to the pesky pole. Passgate pole. What's. What's the price difference? [00:55:44] Speaker B: Oh, it's a lot less to sit by the pesky pole. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:48] Speaker A: All right. Pesky pole. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Well, anyway, I mean, you gotta, you. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Gotta think about this, Dan. And listeners, when you're faced with a decision like this, like Dan is faced with, if you're going to someplace that you're not always going to be at, do you take the opportunity to do something that you're not always going to be able to do because you can? I think you should. [00:56:17] Speaker B: It's a good question. [00:56:18] Speaker A: Just like Cap Wolf, when he went to the town filled with werewolf. [00:56:21] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:56:22] Speaker A: And he told himself he should fight them all. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Like, literally. Why are you doing this to me? [00:56:30] Speaker A: Who, me? What about Cap Wolf? Or about the pesky. [00:56:33] Speaker B: The. [00:56:34] Speaker A: About the green monster? [00:56:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I. Yeah, cuz. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Cuz. I mean, I can't go and watch a game there, but you. You're. You're gonna be there, so why wouldn't you want to experience something? [00:56:49] Speaker B: How about $97 right behind a plate? [00:56:52] Speaker A: Oh, that's pretty cool. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I gotta get other people to agree to this, though. That's the only problem. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Listeners, send a message to Dan. Tell him what you think. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Yeah, well, anyway, it was fun. That was fun. So. So much for baseball talk. [00:57:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:12] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I want to talk about anything except. [00:57:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I know you were trying to get. I mean, before. I'll be honest, like, before this whole entire thing, all he was trying to do is get me to go to a baseball game instead of do this comic book, so. [00:57:27] Speaker B: No, no, it wasn't. Instead of. I just. It was. And it was. [00:57:31] Speaker A: And let's. Let's go to a baseball game and do this comic book, but. [00:57:39] Speaker B: Well, anyway, yeah, that was. Well, this happened, so. [00:57:43] Speaker A: Yes, this. This comic book, it happened, but, you know, it's what it is. Next issue, we get. We get cap Wolf. So there's that. [00:57:52] Speaker B: It's a wolf. He's hungry. [00:57:53] Speaker A: He's hungry. He's a cap. [00:57:56] Speaker B: He's like a wolf. He's hungry. [00:57:57] Speaker A: No cap on that. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Wolf. [00:57:59] Speaker A: For real? For real fur. Real? For real. F u r. Yeah. R e al. [00:58:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, it's like. Do you think you're gonna get his copyright struck? How many seconds of something can I play? [00:58:16] Speaker A: I don't know, like 15. [00:58:20] Speaker B: Really? [00:58:21] Speaker A: I think maybe. Maybe ten. Why will, you know, what are you. What are you gonna play? [00:58:27] Speaker B: What? Nothing. Okay. Nothing at all. [00:58:31] Speaker A: Nothing at all. Oh, boy. Dan on dog with this one. On dog. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Cuz it's, you know, Cap wolf. There's. There's wolves. So. On dog. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, no, that happens. So. [00:58:50] Speaker A: Ah, yeah, yeah, no, that's it. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, I had to talk over it because you. You went too long. [00:58:59] Speaker B: I did not go too long. [00:59:00] Speaker A: Too long. In the tooth. Like a wolf. [00:59:03] Speaker B: Well, yeah. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Cause you're hungry like a wolf. [00:59:06] Speaker B: Well, that's it. I'm. I'm pretty much done here. [00:59:10] Speaker A: All right, well, thanks a lot, listeners, for joining us as we review the best. Best comic book run out there, man and wolf. [00:59:22] Speaker B: I mean, it is better than streets of poison. [00:59:27] Speaker A: Actually. [00:59:27] Speaker B: It may not be. That's the sad part. It might not be. [00:59:32] Speaker A: We might have found a book. A book. A book run worse. [00:59:35] Speaker B: Well, it's. Yeah, well, and we're so glad you listened. You can obviously find Greg at the retro Emporium where he goes when he won't go to baseball games with me. And also that's on Meeker street in Kent, Washington. You can relive your childhood. Additionally, you can pick up Greg's books, something camp launch pad, something absolute zero's camp launch pad. If you go to Kent, Washington, you may even find one in a, like, bookstore with a signature on it. You might. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Or at Barnes and Nobles, where I was. Where I was signing books the other day. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Well, there you go. And then you could also, if you want to support the people that support us, you could always go to certified martial arts on Bridgeport Way and 27th. I almost said Jackson. Sorry. It's the same road. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Same road. [01:00:29] Speaker B: And in Tacoma, Washington. And you could go meet jujitsu lawyer Paul and get some training or some legal services. So either way, you know, you're covered. Yeah, we do have a big supporter out to supporters. John and Elise too. John, like, retweets everything that we do, so we appreciate that. Big shout out to John and Elise. So I don't think Elise would ever listen to it, but John certainly likes. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:01] Speaker B: Likes it. Yeah, I say that. I guess I should ask her directly. [01:01:05] Speaker A: But does she listen? I think I know they support. [01:01:10] Speaker B: John definitely listens. [01:01:12] Speaker A: John. John definitely. John definitely does. And then also, you know, for. For our fan who picked this book run Jason. Appreciate the support. And I look forward to when you message me about. [01:01:27] Speaker B: He's gonna be like, I hate Dan now. He hates my favorite things. [01:01:30] Speaker A: No no. When we. When we. When we chat on our. On our rotating Mondays and stuff like that. For. For game night and stuff like that, it's, um. It's usually pretty fun. So. [01:01:40] Speaker B: Well, um. And follow us on Project Dash nerd.com. you can also follow us on the Facebook's, the exes, the Instas and the. The tubes. [01:01:52] Speaker A: The tubes and the Facebook. Did we save the facebooks? [01:01:54] Speaker B: I said that first. Yes. [01:01:55] Speaker A: Oh, the Metis. The Metis. Yeah. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So, well, if you're looking for, come back next week for that in depth John Oliver like analysis of cap Wolf issue four. [01:02:08] Speaker A: And don't forget to find us at summer con. [01:02:11] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [01:02:12] Speaker A: Friday. [01:02:13] Speaker B: I don't know. This may be past then, so who knows? [01:02:15] Speaker A: Oh. Oh my gosh. I'm talking about the past again. [01:02:19] Speaker B: You might not be. I think you may be talking about the future, but if you find us at summer con and it was the past or the future, we're gonna give you a sticker. [01:02:26] Speaker A: A sticker. You can't see the stickers that Dan is holding up right now. [01:02:29] Speaker B: We're gonna be wearing. We're gonna be wearing some really cool, funny, but forensic shirts. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Should be here soon. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. You're gonna love it. [01:02:40] Speaker B: All right, well, I think we're done. All right, so, bye. [01:02:49] Speaker A: Ouch. I'm not bleeding. I don't feel. Button. You hit it on me.