Funny Book Forensics 419 Booster is Kind of a Good Guy?

[00:00:06] Speaker A: Hi. Wow. [00:00:10] Speaker B: It'S bright in here. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Things are happening. I know. Your. Your wall is the right color. [00:00:15] Speaker B: I am. I got all this light on me now. It's wild. For those who are not. Who are only listening audio through. Through the source of the audio. It's amazing what lighting can do. [00:00:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's amazing. Like your wall is literally the color it's supposed to be. [00:00:32] Speaker B: But if you, if you're. If you can see this. Wow. The graininess is gone. It's amazing. [00:00:39] Speaker A: For now. Yeah. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you know, if this light falls over at some point, which it will most likely. This is funny book forensics, don't forget. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it is funny book forensics. I'm. I'm reading a book about comics. [00:00:51] Speaker B: He's reading a book about comics and I'm watching him. That's what we do. [00:00:56] Speaker A: I prepared for the episode. [00:00:58] Speaker B: He is so prepared. [00:00:59] Speaker A: While we were talking about, did anybody have a. The graphic novel version of the death of Superman? [00:01:06] Speaker B: No. [00:01:06] Speaker A: Handy. Neither of us did. I feel like I should have that. Superman died in Superman number 75. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Holy cats and Dogs. [00:01:17] Speaker A: Written and penciled by one Dan Jurgens. [00:01:21] Speaker B: The same Dan Jurgens who's doing this book right here. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Penciled Beast of Gold number seven. Oh, my goodness. So six years from now, you're gonna get. You have a live Superman here, and then you'll have a dead Superman. [00:01:41] Speaker B: Well, yeah. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Dan Jurgens created Doomsday. Oh, wow. Dan Jurgens, you know, penciled and wrote one of the best selling comics of all time. Yeah. At least when it was made. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:04] Speaker A: I would say it's probably one of the most quarter selling books of all time. [00:02:10] Speaker B: Latest thing. Hey, well, it's still. Yeah, I mean, it's still pulling those quarters out of the bin. People are still going after it, saving it for a day. [00:02:20] Speaker A: There's some fun. That's that. That's kind of what I wanted to get to, was the penciling and the penciling similarities between that and the Booster Gold we're looking at right now. [00:02:30] Speaker B: That cover. Yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker A: You're on video. You can see. You can see. Wow. It's. And you know what I would say about that, by the way? This is Comic book chronicles, the 1990s, the 90s. Jason Sachs and Keith Dallas are now talking about Dan Jurgen's creations in the 80s. They did not. [00:02:53] Speaker B: They just kind of shuffled it off to the side there. [00:02:58] Speaker A: No mention of Booster Gold, but you know, again, get all sorts of death of Superman because, you know, that's. That was important. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Nobody want to talk about Booster well. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Right now we got to cover with Booster Gold getting smashed by Superman. [00:03:14] Speaker B: He's. Yeah, he's in a puddle of something. And it's bas. Poor, poor Booster. I mean, it's like the poor guy. He just wants to be helpful. Superman is just beaten to be friends. Not out of him. He wants to be friends. Yeah, he wants to be friends with them. He wants to. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Well, the COVID says the man of Gold versus the man of Steel. The man of Steel is fonted like the COVID of the man of Steel books. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And it looks like he's putting Booster in a puddle of gold. [00:03:46] Speaker A: Wanted. Just like that. This one's even in a wrapper. Sorry, it's glaring because. Oh, yeah, yeah, we got that font there. It's. Perhaps I should pull that out of its wrapper and read it in my spare time. Uh, yeah, I just, you know, I got those because they have Legion appearances, and I just. I get upset every time I think about reading the John Byrne Superman, and then I don't do it. [00:04:08] Speaker B: And just do it. [00:04:11] Speaker A: Just rip it. Rip the band aid. Well, anyway, we've got John Burns Superman, living in Dan Jurgen's world here. Yeah. And last issue, we met Fern. The Ferninator. [00:04:27] Speaker B: The Ferninator on his BMX bike. [00:04:29] Speaker A: And we met the little alien guy, Z. We met the other alien guy. Captured all of them. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah, the other one. [00:04:43] Speaker A: We met Booster Gold and we found out the origin of Booster Gold, the not so the original origin. The no, like, sympathy origin at all. There's no sick mom, no. No real reason to steal. He just gambled in college, lost his career, his football career, ended up working in a museum, stole stuff because he wanted to be a superhero in the past. Took Skeets with him, and Skeets told the whole gay dished everything to Superman. Skeets is Skeets. Is that. You know, before the podcast started, Greg was asking me what my preferences are in the worst case dating scenario. Yeah, and ask me if I wanted the dirt, dishing shit, stirring wine, drinking, fabulous gay man to sweep me off my feet. And I said, no, no, I. No, I did not like John Byrne Superman. That individual might be good for a short time, but isn't meant for long term relationships. [00:05:48] Speaker B: See, and that's where you start off with that, like in a Hallmark movie. And then the real. The real love interest pops in and pushes that one away and sweeps you off your feet. [00:06:04] Speaker A: While in the scenario of the story we're about to review. Who is that love interest? [00:06:10] Speaker B: Oh. [00:06:12] Speaker A: I don't think we're There in the Hallmark movie yet. [00:06:14] Speaker B: We're not there in the Hallmark movie. And I also. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Hawkman is back, by the way. [00:06:18] Speaker B: Hawkman is back. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It is right there on the COVID Hawkman is back, people. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Hawkman is back on the COVID Yeah. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Is that. Is that who's going to sweep you off your feet? Hawkman? [00:06:36] Speaker A: Maybe. Except, you know, Hawkman. Isn't this about the time we rewrote the whole Hawkman thing so that he was faded to Hawk Girl slash Hawk Woman over and over again with the multiple lives and all that stuff? [00:06:49] Speaker B: So no Hawkman for you. So I guess this was. [00:06:53] Speaker A: I don't think that was that series, actually. This is. I, I'm gonna not. This was, let's see. Writer Jenny Blake. Isabella. Penciler Richard Howe. Inker Don Heck. [00:07:08] Speaker B: Oh. What? [00:07:11] Speaker A: What? Why is Don Heck inking somebody else? [00:07:15] Speaker B: That's awesome, though. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that is. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Okay, that, I mean that if, if you're gonna. That's pretty cool. Ah, Hex on Hawk. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Yeah, we get than. This is post crisis, so it's definitely going to be Thanagarians. Yeah, it's. Well, Hawkman's back post crisis. Of course, we've got Silver Age Hawkman, because Golden Age Hawkman is either dead or shuttered off. Because when you, you see, when the crisis is over, there can be only one. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Only one. Oh, like a Highlander. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, man, those are fast cars. It can only be one Hawkman, one Superman, one Booster. [00:08:03] Speaker B: One Booster. Well, there's only one Booster. [00:08:06] Speaker A: One of a. Yeah, that's there. Only ever. [00:08:07] Speaker B: One of a kind. [00:08:08] Speaker A: There only ever was one Booster Gold. There's not multiple Booster Golds. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. Well, unless. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Unless there are two, there could be only one. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Only be. [00:08:28] Speaker A: You said it right already. Well, anyway, we turn the page. [00:08:31] Speaker B: We turn the page to find out to guess who's winning. [00:08:36] Speaker A: We turn the page. [00:08:37] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:08:40] Speaker A: And we get a. I don't know what's going on. [00:08:47] Speaker B: I, I, I, It's. It's an amazing. [00:08:50] Speaker A: There's a space background. Yeah, there's a very Legion of Superheroes once again background. [00:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty interesting, turns out. [00:09:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be interesting to find out in the next two issues where there are Legion of Superheroes members in the stories. Spoiler. Yeah. If there are less Legion of Superheroes backgrounds in those stories than in this story. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Oh, that'd be wild. [00:09:19] Speaker A: I think there is. Well, yesterday, Earth time at Baker Dam, without warning, Booster Gold, Skeets and Superman and young Jason Redfern. That'd be our friend Fern and Z, the alien stranded on Earth were savagely attacked. No chance to defend themselves. They easily defeated. They were easily defeated. Loaded aboard a space vessel and brought to this planet in a remote galaxy. Banded together from a remote galaxy. [00:09:52] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:54] Speaker A: Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the savage attacker says, bring me the prisoners now. God. For the crime of treason. It is time. Time that they die. [00:10:08] Speaker B: I like his lion's main hair. [00:10:10] Speaker A: It's pretty cool. He's very Jack Kirby. This is just. This is. This is a straight ripoff of New Gods. Like I honestly. Yeah, straight ripoff. He's got big Barta's like staff. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:26] Speaker A: Thing. Her. Her boom stick. Remember? It's a boomstick. [00:10:29] Speaker B: It's a boom stick. [00:10:30] Speaker A: What do you do with a. What do you do with a boomstick shaped like that? [00:10:33] Speaker B: I don't know. You stick some boom. [00:10:36] Speaker A: You boom things. [00:10:38] Speaker B: You boom things. You stick it. [00:10:40] Speaker A: When you got a skull on his knee, like got a full on wine glass. [00:10:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And then the, the, like the harness. [00:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:55] Speaker B: The. The chest like his. [00:11:00] Speaker A: It's like his upper half is Grimbor and his lower half is Mr. Miracle. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:05] Speaker A: It's wild. [00:11:06] Speaker B: It is a wild outfit. [00:11:10] Speaker A: And he's blue and he's got fangs and everybody. [00:11:14] Speaker B: You, you're not. If you're not seeing this, if you haven't read this book or you're not looking at it. His boots are awesome. Cuff and what appeared to be buckle. He's cuffing and buckling. He's cuff buck. [00:11:29] Speaker A: What you're saying is he could have a cape. [00:11:33] Speaker B: He could have a cape, but he. [00:11:35] Speaker A: Doesn'T need been following along. Cuff and buckles allow you to have capes. [00:11:39] Speaker B: He doesn't need one though because he's got a thing on his shoulder and a thing on his knee and he's got a thing around his thigh and he's got that harness piece on. [00:11:49] Speaker A: He just looks nice about miscolored evil Lyn in the background. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Ms. Colored Evil Lynn in the back. It's crazy because we're going through he man stuff at the house here and it's like we're getting all these weird variants of stuff because sometimes they like paint things weird because you know, like, you know, back in the day, you know, when they're painting toys and stuff like that, they're like, oh, hey, whatever. [00:12:10] Speaker A: They never saw the, the actual art. Yeah. [00:12:13] Speaker B: They're just like, yeah, whatever. You know, we're on paint half of it and you know, like It's a misprint. It's a misprint. But now that's. That weird variant goes for a lot of this, like, misprint. Evil Lynn is amazing. That's. I want this. I want to make. I want to make this now. [00:12:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:32] Speaker B: It's pretty epic. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Well, let's see. We've got. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Her outfit is amazing, too. She's got some cool boots and awesome, like. Like shoulder kind of piece over her neck and arms. [00:12:48] Speaker A: It's. [00:12:49] Speaker B: It's amazing. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Did you know? [00:12:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Just side note nothing about this book, but there was a Hawkman special that led into the series. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:00] Speaker A: And while Don Heck. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Inked the series number one, guess who inked Hawkman number one? [00:13:10] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Into his leading, into his pencil or run on Warlord. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Are. Oh, Are you serious? No. [00:13:22] Speaker A: 1. Ron Randall. The Double R. Ron Randall showing up everywhere. [00:13:30] Speaker B: That is amazing. That's pretty cool. [00:13:34] Speaker A: Well, anyway, now I'll turn the page. I didn't. Okay. I was distracting you on purpose. [00:13:41] Speaker B: He was distracted on purpose because of the amazing page it's coming up. [00:13:45] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I would tell you it's page two, but I'm not sure because there are no page numbers here. [00:13:50] Speaker B: That's true. There are no page numbers. But there's an amazing art on this. [00:13:54] Speaker A: Page, which is highly disappointing. Yeah, we've got more Legion superheroes background. [00:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:00] Speaker A: And a statue. [00:14:03] Speaker B: The hawk bird thing. [00:14:06] Speaker A: You know, this is a really simple story. [00:14:09] Speaker B: It really is. [00:14:09] Speaker A: When it breaks down, it's a tale. [00:14:11] Speaker B: As old as time. [00:14:15] Speaker A: Song as old as rhyme. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah, both of those things. I mean, really, when you think about it, it's just too. [00:14:26] Speaker A: Old as rhyme. That lyric doesn't make sense. [00:14:28] Speaker B: It's two superheroes being stolen from their own planet to be brought here to be found as treasonous. [00:14:38] Speaker A: And one is beautiful and one is kind of a beast. [00:14:41] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. And they're brought to a library with their. Their little chip friend, Fern. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Well, Booster Gold gets charged with whatever. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:57] Speaker A: And of treason. And he says you're nuts. We couldn't. We. We didn't commit treason. We don't even know who you bozos are in his cape, by the way. [00:15:08] Speaker B: I know. [00:15:09] Speaker A: We need to get rid of this cape. [00:15:10] Speaker B: This is. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Oh, this is the. The cape is. And his cape. So one big problem with the Dan Jurgens art right here. You're yawning again. [00:15:21] Speaker B: Wait, I know. [00:15:23] Speaker A: Sorry. Saying that the Jurgens are. Is so boring that you need to yawn. [00:15:29] Speaker B: I. I'm more. [00:15:30] Speaker A: Mr. Jordans, I'm sorry. We met you a couple years Ago. Well, not even. Yeah, a couple years ago. And Greg was so bored by you that he's now yawning. [00:15:38] Speaker B: I'm yawning to give. To blow air. [00:15:41] Speaker A: Never get this guy on our podcast. [00:15:43] Speaker B: I'm. I'm yawning to blow air into the scene so that Booster Gold's cape has something to flutter with while. While Superman's cape stays led into the ground. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it is a fine point. Why is Booster Gold's cape, like, flying and Superman's cape is his dad? [00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. [00:16:00] Speaker A: Now, you don't tug on Superman's cape. [00:16:04] Speaker B: No, you don't. You never tug on Superman. [00:16:08] Speaker A: Spit in the wind. [00:16:09] Speaker B: No, you don't spit in the wind. [00:16:11] Speaker A: And you don't take the mask off the Lone Ranger. [00:16:14] Speaker B: You never take the mask off a Lone Ranger. [00:16:18] Speaker A: And you don't mess around with this alien king guy. [00:16:22] Speaker B: That's right, because I hear he's bad, bad, bad. Like Leroy Brown. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Those are different songs. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Oh, are they? Man, I got. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah, same singer. [00:16:35] Speaker B: I know. I got Jim Crochet on the Mind. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Same singer, different songs. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Same singer. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Wouldn't it be great if you mash them both up at the same time during karaoke and just watch people just, like, yell at you? [00:16:49] Speaker A: I think most people do mash those two songs up. [00:16:52] Speaker B: I just did. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's a very. I think it's a very common mistake, actually. So how many of our listeners even know who Jim Croce is? [00:17:04] Speaker B: Probably two. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, if we go down this path, I'm gonna start getting into, like, Three Dog Night and. Well, I mean, you encourage. [00:17:16] Speaker B: You wanted to. [00:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I bet none of these guys have been to Spain. No, I mean, it's. It's probably true. [00:17:27] Speaker B: Probably true. [00:17:28] Speaker A: Do you think they've been to Oklahoma? [00:17:29] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't think so. Do you know that in the jungle the lion sleeps tonight? [00:17:36] Speaker A: That's. That's neither of those singers. [00:17:38] Speaker B: I know it's neither of those things, but in the same. Same era of these. [00:17:43] Speaker A: No, that's. That's before the n. The Nylons were before. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Were they. Oh, man. I got to see them live when I was, like, the Nylon. Yeah, like the. I. I saw, like, the. The remaining members really do a show. My parents took me. It was. It was pretty cool. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Well, at least I had a scout troop where I didn't need the Nylons because I had a scout member who could just sing the song. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Just sing it. [00:18:14] Speaker A: Yeah. That's cool. Chris McCafferty. Could sing the song. Yeah, yeah. I mean, not everybody has a, you know, future opera singer in their scout troop. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Just getting it out there. Yeah. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Just, you know, it's about that time of season. We better start thinking about a Christmas podcast. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. An episode for that. Yeah, there's a couple good. Couple good books out there. [00:18:37] Speaker A: We might have an interlude here before we get to the last few Booster Gold episodes. We might have to have a Christmas episode. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Oh, curses. [00:18:44] Speaker A: I suppose I haven't talked to Chris in a couple years. He's been through a lot. [00:18:48] Speaker B: I wonder. [00:18:50] Speaker A: I wonder if he could sing us a Christmas song. Probably not. I haven't because I haven't talked to him in like two years. Three years. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Three years. [00:18:58] Speaker A: How many years I worked at Amazon? Seven years. Have I not talked to Chris in six years? [00:19:02] Speaker B: It's been a while, Dan. Oh, my. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been through a bit, too. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Well, shout out to Chris McCafferty. I know you'll never listen to this. [00:19:11] Speaker B: He won't. [00:19:12] Speaker A: We still love you. And. [00:19:13] Speaker B: Yes, we do. [00:19:14] Speaker A: We know you've been through a lot. And it. I saw. I saw a post. That's why I got excited. And nobody listening to this cares, except they're gonna care in a second because, oh, the alumni singer is like, he. He does a Christmas concert every year for free for people. But that's why it got brought up. So that's why I brought Chris McCafferty up. Chris McCafferty is also the first person to introduce me to the X Men. [00:19:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And. [00:19:42] Speaker A: And X Force and. Well, maybe that was a mistake. [00:19:48] Speaker B: There's no mistakes in comics. I mean, you have to get through some stuff to get to the other stuff. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Well, no, he just. He had read the New Mutants and then it changed and he was like, oh, this changed. So you gotta get these books. Yeah. See, we are at o' Leary's books. [00:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Gotta pick these up. Why not? [00:20:08] Speaker A: It's. Yeah. I mean, and I'm surprised Chris has never come back up on the podcast before because he is, you know, obviously I was reading Legion stuff, but he is one of the reasons that I loved comics. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Got you into him. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Because he would take me to the. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Comic shop, get you talking about it on occasion. Yeah. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And that's. I mean. Yeah, him. I mentioned Jennifer Baker giving me all the old X Men books to read that she had in her house. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:39] Speaker A: And you know, there are people I know. And you had. You had stuff at a random uncle's and stuff. [00:20:45] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, Both of them, I mean, pivotal folks in our, in our high school years that were. Were just cool folks, you know. So I mean, and when comics weren't. [00:20:59] Speaker A: Really cool, it was right before comics got cool. Like comics. Well, I guess X Force, him showing me that was. Comics were getting really hot. Yeah, but you know, is before you didn't just walk around talking about all your cool comic books. That was not a thing to do. [00:21:16] Speaker B: It was definitely that conversation that you had with someone that you, you found out they liked comics and then you, hey, let's go talk about this somewhere. Where would. [00:21:28] Speaker A: And then like a year and a half later, comics were all over the place. [00:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Because Death of Superman. And as bad as that storyline was. Yeah, I'm sorry, but as bad as that storyline was. Yeah, I mean then you had, you know, five printings of a. Printings of a comic book. [00:21:47] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:47] Speaker A: And you know, Marvel got re hot. I mean X Men was already hot, but when they got to, well, Spider Man, I guess. Yeah. I don't know the exact order, but Spider man got hot with Todd. X Men got hot with Jim Lee again. And, and then, you know, obviously they did Image. So that got hot. But Image doesn't happen if you don't. I don't get the image. I don't think image happens without Death of Superman pushing the black suit. Spider Man. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah, you don't, you don't get that, that situation happening without these. [00:22:23] Speaker A: The X Men 3. Right. So that was after. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Yeah. When you're getting all those kids watching it and then you're. And then later on you're getting those VHS from Burger King. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Yeah, well, but the X Men cartoon was a kind of aligned with the launch of Image. Right. That just helped the popularity. Yeah. Having a little bit higher quality cartoon. But yeah, I mean it was the X Men being so hot. And that number one issue you can find a million copies of in the landfill. It's kind of like the ET Cartridge. [00:23:01] Speaker B: Oh, I got one right over here. [00:23:04] Speaker A: Probably a higher quality story, but yeah. [00:23:06] Speaker B: That'S in the E2 cartridge I saw. [00:23:09] Speaker A: The other day like somebody was selling like 25 copies of X Men number one still like on ebay or something like that. Like I found these in a box. They're near mint. They're worth a ton. And it's like. No, no, no, no. You can I. You know, and. And a credit to. And. And Superman. This is 75 too. That was supposed to be. People were buying it to invest it. And it's like, you know, I heard something once Too. If the, if the. If you're getting stock tips from the maitre d, it's time to get out of the market. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Oh, are you getting them? Are you getting stock tips from them? [00:23:51] Speaker A: No, no, not. Not right now. But, I mean, that's. But the thing is too, for a lot of people, though, like, that got people hooked. Like us, got us hooked on comics. Right? And then. But then everybody else left. I. I remember selling a bunch of Wolverine books, what, ten years ago. [00:24:12] Speaker B: Ish. [00:24:13] Speaker A: And the ones from. The ones. The ones from the, like, early 2000s, late 90s, were worth more than the more popular ones from the late 80s, early 90s, just because there were so many printed. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:28] Speaker A: And, you know, and. And good. And then. But the industry collapsed in on itself, and here that's not happening. But I don't know why. I just. I. I don't know why I decided to talk about Death of Superman. I guess it's because Jurgens did both. And now I'm hooked on this topic. You're. Sorry, from. From the actual issue, you've. [00:24:45] Speaker B: You've gone. You've gone rogue. [00:24:48] Speaker A: It's also amazing, though, what John Byrne did to the character, because you went from Post Crisis, and then John Byrne launches it and makes the character popular again. So, you know, to John Byrne's credit, all the hoopla around him taking over Superman and Post Crisis relaunches Man of Steel. Right? Launches the darker, grittier. No, no, Crypto. We can't have Crypto. Can't have that fun. We can't have the superheroes. We can't have Superboy. No, we can't have Supergirl. Can't have any. Any of these things. We've got to make Superman different. And, you know, but, you know, it did tough. [00:25:28] Speaker B: He's dark. [00:25:29] Speaker A: I mean, at the time. At the time, right? Like, and we. We talked about Dark Knight Returns. We mentioned Watchmen's coming soon. We've got the deconstruction of comics, and you're, You're. And then here we're reading a super traditional comic book story, right? [00:25:49] Speaker B: It is a very traditional comic book story. It's a. It's a very. The. The plot follows a solid recipe. Each book has those. Those things, hits those marks. [00:26:05] Speaker A: But then six years later, you have Death of Superman, which is a very traditional comic book. Book story. Yeah. Because the whole thing, like, every again, see, am I back on this now? I'm making myself mad. [00:26:19] Speaker B: You're back on. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Back on. I'm back on this. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Back on this. He's back on it, everybody, he can't get off. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Because how sustainable was man of Steel? Because if we get to the height of the popularity, we're back to telling really traditional comic book stories again to get readers to try to maintain it. And of course, the industry collapses. But. And, and is the industry collapse related to that whole thing? Right. Like, it gets popular and then implodes on itself. Because they couldn't either. Either that storytelling was so good and they couldn't maintain the storytelling to keep people interested. I know there was a little bit of a talent drain. I know there's a lot of issues that lead to a collapse. Right. Led the. Led to the collapse. But it's, you know, you splinter the talent out again. There's three companies instead of two. But Stan Lee sort of leaving Marvel too, right? Like in Jim Shooter running it obviously was running it during the time. But Jim Shooter gets fired, what, in 91 or 92? Yeah, you get. There's just. I know there's a lot to it, but you were defending it last night. See, you were defending it. And now I want to. I'm back on it because I'm like, didn't the whole industry, like, implode? [00:27:41] Speaker B: It did, but I think, like, if you don't do all these things, you don't get certain things, you know, and that's. And that's really what it comes down to. And I think that's the realization that we have to, as readers and as fans of the stories of whatever they may be, have to either realize or accept. I mean, you have to take the good to get the bad. You know, you have to take the bad. The bad. [00:28:06] Speaker A: But if these didn't implode, the industry. Couldn't you make more money? [00:28:09] Speaker B: You could, but at the same point, every time, everything has to go like, it's. It's just like a tide, Dan. It's. It's the. The waves coming in and going back out again. [00:28:22] Speaker A: I don't. Taking the trash. I think that is. I'm sorry, interrupting you. No, no, I'm interrupting whatever this tide shit is. [00:28:30] Speaker B: It. It's taking the trash from the beach and bringing it back out to the ocean to make the beach clean again so that trash can come back to the beach and be brought back to the ocean. And then you have a trash island out there just swirling around, and that's where you're living right now. You're feeling the trash island. Maybe, maybe not. [00:28:51] Speaker A: What I'm feeling is a squandering of resources and a sadness over, like, this. You Know, and. And we do get. I. I mean, we do get good things coming out. I mean, there's a lot of good books in the late 90s that. [00:29:06] Speaker B: A lot of. There's a lot of good books that happen out of this. And then if you don't do all these things and you don't do the Superman stories that you're talking about, you have to remember one key and important fact. And this is. This is so key. And I'm sure there's a lot of listeners out there that are going to go. Going to agree with me, and they're going to. They're going to very much revel in this, and they're going to. They're going to feel this so strongly, and they're going to write in and they're going to. They're. They know deep within their heart of hearts that this is true. Without any of this, Dan, you don't get Shaquille o' Neal playing Superman or. [00:29:46] Speaker A: A. Superman didn't play Superman. [00:29:48] Speaker B: He played Steel. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And that. [00:29:52] Speaker B: And it's an analog that wasn't out. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Of the deconstructed comics. [00:29:57] Speaker B: That was out of Death of Super Analog. It's an analog of Superman. It's an analog of Superman, Dan. And you don't get that. You don't get that movie without any of this. [00:30:07] Speaker A: So I, as much as I like the Steel character and probably the only good character that came out of that. [00:30:13] Speaker B: Mess and, and Shaq playing him, I mean, that's amazing. And you don't get shots and you don't get. You don't. You don't get Shaq gummies and Shaq tea and all this other stuff. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Okay, well, can we get that back to this book we're reading that didn't sell at all, which is the whole reason we had all these other deconstructed books anyway, because obviously, if. If books like this. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Is that all I had to do, everyone was just start talking about Shaquille o'. Neal. [00:30:42] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:43] Speaker B: Shaq Chicken. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Yes. Like, yes. If we're talking about the reasons the industry imploded, there's a great example. [00:30:57] Speaker B: I mean, it's a good movie. [00:31:00] Speaker A: It is not a good movie. What are you talking about? [00:31:04] Speaker B: It ends at its runtime. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Terrible movie. [00:31:06] Speaker B: It ends at its runtime. It's a good movie. Oh, Dan is so mad. [00:31:14] Speaker A: I. It. No, it's just, it. It makes me sad because, like, that's the. Like. And how out of touch. Okay, so let's. Let's back. Let's back up a second. [00:31:23] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:24] Speaker A: Okay. So we have Booster Gold here. Yeah. And yeah, we're gonna flip a couple pages because Booster Gold and Superman are gonna fight the space aliens and they. [00:31:35] Speaker B: Oh, man, Booster's just smacking him around. He's, he's headlocking people left and right. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Kicking a miscolored evil in, like does something to them and like knocks them out minds after. [00:31:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:48] Speaker A: And basically Miss Color. Basically we've got Mind Dancer, except she's on a different planet and she's bald now, man. But these are energies from her cerebral core. These are occult energies. See, it is evil, Lynn. [00:32:06] Speaker B: I'm not. [00:32:06] Speaker A: She just needs a mace. [00:32:07] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, she, and she's bald so that the, the, the energy can come from her head easier. Oh, Dan, that's why you're bald. [00:32:17] Speaker A: And nobody's going to be able to listen to this podcast because it's so frenetic. And I'm going back and forth between topics, but the, the, the, the fucking disconnect between the goddamn movie and what was going on in comics too. Right. Like here we are, we talked about it shifting to more traditional comic stories and then they just release, you know, an hour and 30 minute movie that's just a fucking joke of comics. So it's like basically they made Ready to fucking Rumble with Steel and they make a whole movie that just pisses all over fucking comics and makes fun of them. And in 89 they have Batman. Right. And, and, but, but by the time Steel is coming out, we have the ass. Terrible Batman movies. [00:33:05] Speaker B: Okay, okay, here's a question. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Fully rusted metal Batman, are you gonna. Okay, okay. [00:33:13] Speaker B: In one hand you have. [00:33:14] Speaker A: No, it's holy and it's rusted. [00:33:17] Speaker B: You, you have, you have Batman with George Clooney and, and Chris from. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Yes, Holy rusted metal Batman. I just did the joke. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yes, yes, you have, I know you, you have that Batman and you have. And on. And, and you have three hands, right? And in one hand you have Steel. And another hand you, A few years later you have. I know your favorite movie, Green Lantern. Which one do you throw out the car window? Which one do you throw out the window? [00:33:54] Speaker A: Steel. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Really? Green Lantern's so terrible. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Green Lantern had a better plot than Steel. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Okay. And you'd keep that Batman and Robin. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Yeah, there are two. In each of those movies there are people with eye appeal. Okay. At least. [00:34:20] Speaker B: All right. [00:34:24] Speaker A: And I, and I also know Ryan Reynolds is going to redeem himself later. [00:34:29] Speaker B: Okay, so with another, with another Green Lantern movie. [00:34:34] Speaker A: Oh, unfortunately, no, they didn't let him write, produce and Direct a Green Lantern movie or whatever. He does movies now. Yet I don't think it's going to happen anyway. No. [00:34:48] Speaker B: Because now Nathan Fillan's gonna do his own Green Lantern movie. It's gonna be amazing now. [00:34:56] Speaker A: Haunted by the. You will be haunted by this forever when it goes from my house to your house. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Oh, okay. [00:35:06] Speaker A: Anyway, okay, so back. Back to story. Back to Booster. And, you know, these companies are still so disconnected from the writing in the books that's happening. It just is so incredibly frustrating that, like, we could have such good comic writing and storytelling, yet they can't figure it out in the movie scape, and they have to make everything into a joke. Yeah. If they wanted a joke, just. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Okay, well, I mean, what if you had. [00:35:41] Speaker A: You know, it's appropriate that we turn page here because we go back to Gold Star, Inc. Oh, yeah. Back to Goldstar. You were about to say what I. [00:35:52] Speaker B: Was going to say. What if you had Ernest Saves comics. Ernest P. Worrell comes out as a superhero in a. [00:36:02] Speaker A: In. [00:36:02] Speaker B: In a. In the universe. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:36:05] Speaker B: And he now is. He is rivaling the likes of a Booster Gold. What do you say about that, Dan? [00:36:20] Speaker A: It feels like something you would write. [00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:23] Speaker A: For fun on a weekend, on a. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Lot of Adderall and. And. And. And surprisingly and sadly, it would probably be one of those things that somebody would. It would get leaked to someplace, and then it would probably be the one dumb thing that gets like, hey, could you give us some more of that? [00:36:42] Speaker A: Hey, we love this. Yeah, we love this. Well, we get. We're back at Gold Star. We meet the comic book creators. They're very excited. [00:36:59] Speaker B: They're very excited. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Dan Jurgen's drawing a weird version of himself, which is not him. Is excited not to draw the characters. There's a big, tall, strapping person that's really interested in Trixie and. Yeah, she is not interested in him. [00:37:17] Speaker B: No, not at all. [00:37:18] Speaker A: And the cats are very interested in the comic book artist. We flip the page. Meanwhile, in the office of Dirk Davis. Oh, he has a last name that's not Jerk. [00:37:31] Speaker B: It's Jerk Davis. Oh, oh, oh. [00:37:35] Speaker A: We just flipped it around now. Okay. Yeah. Jerk Davis, Booster's agent, manager. He's talking to some guy. To Dr. Sue. [00:37:46] Speaker B: Dr. Sue. [00:37:48] Speaker A: And Dr. Sue has said. He said, there's a lot of text on this page because we got to get a lot here. We got to get back to the story. And there's a lot in this. There's apparently a lot in these c. Plots going on. Yeah, he's Certainly intrigued by his position at STAR Labs. Keeps him busy. And Dirk's trying to buy something. He says, I hear you, but look, Batman has Robin and Lone Ranger as Tonto. And now Booster needs a partner. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Oh, a partner. But he has one. He's got Skeets. [00:38:22] Speaker A: And he has to check for $150,000 doctor to find him a partner. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Make them possibly go wrong. [00:38:35] Speaker A: I'm just gonna make you sad now because you know what happens. [00:38:42] Speaker B: So make him a partner. Oh, this is bad news, huh? [00:38:48] Speaker A: These are comics that scarred you as a child. [00:38:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker A: I didn't read them as a kid, but you did. It's like. Anyway, we probably won't get that far in the Booster series, though, so I'll spare you that. [00:39:02] Speaker B: No, we should. It's good. [00:39:05] Speaker A: That mean we do Booster Gold until, like, next spot. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Just joking. [00:39:10] Speaker A: I'll just read. But we are reading the next two after this one because we're covering the two Legion of Superheroes issues. Yeah. [00:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:17] Speaker A: So maybe I should do things for you. Well, anyway, the reason we're doing the two Legion of Superheroes, because we're extending the whole Origin storyline that we. We got into here. And once that's wrapped up, then we'll. We'll get rid of Booster. Get rid of them forever. Yeah. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Can't get rid of Booster forever, Dan. [00:39:38] Speaker A: Well, Spaceman, Fern, Superman, Booster, Golden, Skeets and. And Z are all in jail together. Space jail, Planet on the planet Velar. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Alium. [00:39:54] Speaker A: And. Yeah. And everybody's been reduced to the size of Z. We find out. So they're all find out. And Z is telling them that Lord Galeb is a vicious tyrant who rules Velar and needless murder and mayhem. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Oh, he's a bad dude. Which gets. [00:40:17] Speaker A: He's missing. And he's sympathetic because he's missing a fang. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:40:28] Speaker A: And basically, he gives this really big sob story about how terrible this is that he's been on a quest for justice. He's been trying to reinstitate institute democracy. The people took his wife and his child and they executed and tortured them. Booster looks sad and Superman looks sad. And Fern reaches out with his hand. Booster gets really mad. He's like, that tears it. Z, you've got an elite commando squad here. Tell us what you need and we'll knock out that murdering tyrant off his throne. And Skeet is like, booster, don't be rash. We need more information on the situation. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Need to know more, need input. [00:41:13] Speaker A: And SK Is Johnny Five. Yeah. SK Is not convinced. And. And Superman chimes in political affairs are never cut and dried, Booster. This is totally. A totally alien situation. What a jerk. Like, what an alien situation. Alien situation. It is. [00:41:32] Speaker B: It's alien to them, Dan. They're. Well, they're the aliens. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Superman's kind of a jerk in these stories. [00:41:40] Speaker B: He is a jerk. He's been a jerk in everything we've read up to this point. [00:41:45] Speaker A: We need to find something where Superman's not a jerk. [00:41:47] Speaker B: I know. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Maybe we. Maybe if we read something from Superman's actual book, you won't be a joke. [00:41:53] Speaker B: What if we read the Death of Superman where he's dead? Can't be a jerk then. [00:41:58] Speaker A: You can't. No, that's. [00:41:59] Speaker B: That's true. [00:42:00] Speaker A: Was he in the Legion books we read? Yeah, well, Superboy was. He wasn't a jerk in those. Remember he tried to beat up Darkseid? [00:42:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he tried. Did not succeed. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Didn't go well. He got zapped back to the 20th century. But now. Bye, Superboy. Well, now Superman and Booster are fighting over again and. And Skeets is even taking Superman's side. Superman, as a point. Booster, we cannot involve ourselves. And they're glaring. We flip the page, and Dirk's reading the new Booster Gold comic. He's very excited about it. I believe that's about his level of education there. Yeah, probably. What's going on in the comic? Something clever. Yeah. [00:42:47] Speaker B: It's entertaining, Tim. And delightful. [00:42:50] Speaker A: And I do agree with Dirk. For the first time in all of comics, the phone rings and he says, another great literary experience ruined. I agree. When people call me when I'm reading comics, I don't appreciate that. Terrible. Right in the middle of something important. [00:43:05] Speaker B: All worst. [00:43:06] Speaker A: And he gets a call and it says, listen carefully, Davis. And we hear, daddy, help, I want to go home. I want to. And Dirk, who apparently has a kid, I'm. You got a kid? Not sure. I'm not sure. I realized anybody would mate with that human. [00:43:29] Speaker B: Because, well, yeah, he's kind of a gross dude. [00:43:32] Speaker A: A Dirk. And. Well, anyway, now he's very sad. He says, oh, my God, Sarah. So we've got, like, five C plots going on. Okay. That's cool. Do we. We don't have a B plot. Right. We just have five C plots right now. [00:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, just like five fingers on a hand. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Well, Booster notes that they've got company. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Chicken fingers. Because chicken fingers are delicious. Oh, man. [00:44:01] Speaker A: I was distracted. As me. But you're happier with it. [00:44:04] Speaker B: I know. Chicken fingers. So good. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Well, Booster notes that they have company. [00:44:12] Speaker B: They got company. [00:44:14] Speaker A: The. The Lord Gallob. Is back and he's got friends in low places. And Superman's trying to, like, reason with him. Hey, you're wrong about us. We mean you no harm. [00:44:31] Speaker B: We just want to party. [00:44:32] Speaker A: But if you try to harm us, the consequences will be harsh to you. Wow. Oh, man. [00:44:38] Speaker B: Superman's putting down the law. [00:44:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. Did Superman get skinnier and taller? [00:44:44] Speaker B: He did. He's. Well, he's been in jail for a while, Dan. [00:44:48] Speaker A: That's true. They probably put him on the hunger. He's. He's probably on a hunger strike. [00:44:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he's on a hunger strike. They're only feeding him like, like some sort of paste or something like that. So he's not getting enough protein. They put him on the rack, stretched him out a bit, you know, he. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Doesn'T mind stealing bread from the mouth of decadence, you know. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Because he's going hungry. [00:45:11] Speaker B: He's going hungry. [00:45:12] Speaker A: They're. They're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:45:15] Speaker B: They're gonna sing Hungry. He's going hungry. They're gonna sing a song about, you know, there's always tomorrow, but there's not. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, yeah, he's just gonna yell, zombie, zombie, zombie. Over and over again. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, it will be. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Well, anyway, Galleb says, we know that you are not at fault. You were only stupid enough to be tricked by Ran Z. My wife will return you to your normal size and you will quickly leave. Ran Z, though, will stay here and be executed. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Bunzo. [00:45:56] Speaker A: And Booster's like, no, damn it, I've had enough. [00:46:01] Speaker B: Oh, Booster's angry. [00:46:02] Speaker A: He goes to hit Galleb. He says, you court death pup. And Superman's like the hot headed fool. And Superman grabs Booster's arm, holds him back. And then he's like, lord Gallob knows we're men of goodwill. We might yet have negotiated for Ramsay's life. Now Superman's really pissed and. And Fern runs in and he's like, no, you saved my life. Like, you just can't leave him here. The Booster waps Superman and knocks him down. And now it's on. [00:46:41] Speaker B: It's on. [00:46:42] Speaker A: And Skeets is not happy about this. [00:46:45] Speaker B: Skeets is like, oh, no, Booster, not again. [00:46:49] Speaker A: And Superman attacks Booster. And Booster throws Superman through a wall. And this can't possibly go well because when Superman goes through a wall, people get hurt. Well, and Superman's just talking smack, thinking smack. He's not talking smack. He's like, I'll play along. Let the kid work off some steam. Maybe he'll come to his senses. He's not strong enough to hurt me, and his force field should protect him. God, Superman's so such a dick in this. He is. [00:47:18] Speaker B: He's kind of like, yeah, whatever, kid. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Maybe we should call him Super Kirkman. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Allegedly. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Allegedly. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Allegedly. [00:47:39] Speaker A: Well, it's. It's. It. I don't know how I ended up hating one person so much for such a short clip. You gave me all the context, too. And, man, I like those stories, too. [00:47:54] Speaker B: You can like the stories. You can just, you know, that's. Yeah. No, I mean, I. I made my own personal opinion up about them a long time ago. [00:48:05] Speaker A: So you made it up? [00:48:07] Speaker B: I mean, no, no, I didn't. Didn't make it. [00:48:10] Speaker A: Kind of like Booster Gold in the story, I making up his opinion. [00:48:13] Speaker B: I. I learned. I learned things about the person, and then I just said, oh, okay, that's. That's. [00:48:20] Speaker A: You gathered evidence and made decisions. [00:48:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I gather. I gathered the evidence and I made the decision as to how I felt, and I said, okay, cool. [00:48:28] Speaker A: That's very funny book forensics of you. That's gathering evidence, thinking, making a decision. [00:48:33] Speaker B: How. [00:48:33] Speaker A: How grown up, immature. [00:48:34] Speaker B: I know. And then I never bought one of. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Those books, so that's fair. [00:48:42] Speaker B: I only watched the show because I. [00:48:44] Speaker A: Got them for free. Well, Booster's now glowing gold, and Superman's just running him into things. Fern is stressing out like they're going to kill each other. [00:48:57] Speaker B: I know. Fern's like, both of my superhero pals are fighting. [00:49:03] Speaker A: And in the background, Skeets, as usual, is straightening everything out. He's having a nice conver. Calm conversation with Lord Gallob, fighting out what's really going on. [00:49:15] Speaker B: I know. What's the real deal here? [00:49:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Superman. And Superman and Booster Gold keep fighting each other, playing around, and Booster's just indignant. I can't let Z be punished. Poor guy's been through enough. And then finally, he gets kazapped. It's a. Zach, I don't have alcohol today. I'm drinking Gatorade. It's very exciting. Maybe because we drank too much alcohol in the other episodes. [00:49:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it's too bad for you. [00:49:45] Speaker A: That'd be me. Yeah. So we'll drink some Gatorade and. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:54] Speaker A: And then Superman's like, you did this to me. I thought you were my friend. Oh, no, Skeet zapped him. Skeet zapped him. That's what happened. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Keats zapped the booster, and the Booster's falling, falling, falling. [00:50:07] Speaker A: And Skeets is like, I am Booster. That's why it had to be me. That's why we stopped this. And get everybody looking at the two of them. We've got Ramsay looking at them, Gallop looking at them, Superman looking. I like this panel work. [00:50:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good panel. Yeah. [00:50:23] Speaker A: Fake Evil Lynn looking at them. [00:50:26] Speaker B: And Fern. [00:50:28] Speaker A: And then. Oh, and Fern, too. [00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:50:31] Speaker A: And then he says, why, Skeets? Why? And it's terrible. [00:50:42] Speaker B: It's terrible. [00:50:43] Speaker A: And Skeets explains the whole thing. He talked to Lord Gallob. We found out that Z has been trying to overthrow Gallop's regime and claim the throne for himself for years. He never even had a family. He lied. And Booster comes to the realization that he should have known his whole life. You mean I was wrong? In a stunning display of blonde football player white privilege. [00:51:15] Speaker B: I know, I know. Well, I think the biggest thing that Skeets tells him is that. And what really makes Booster come to terms with it is that. That. That Z celebrates Toyota Thon over Happy Honda days. And it just blew his mind because he didn't understand why somebody would do that. And I'm a Toyota driver myself, so, I mean, but I get it. It's all in marketing, though. It really is. It comes down to that. And. And Booster just couldn't wrap his mind around it. [00:51:53] Speaker A: First off, you drive a Prius, it's a Toyota. Barely a car. And then. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh, Dan. [00:52:03] Speaker A: On top of that. On top of that. Can. Can you smell it? [00:52:12] Speaker B: Smell it? [00:52:13] Speaker A: The pretentiousness. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Yes, I do. [00:52:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Hey, I like to drive around the neighborhood and just tell people I'm doing my part. Okay. [00:52:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm doing my part. I'm doing my part. I assume you've seen the south park episode that I'm referring to. [00:52:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I. I drive my car park in the furthest spot away from everybody at work just so they see my car. And then when they drive in, they park really close, and then I walk in and I tell them all, I did my part. [00:52:41] Speaker A: There you go. [00:52:42] Speaker B: I drove the farthest away from where I live. And then in an economical car, and then I walked the rest of the way so I didn't have to drive all the way into the parking lot. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Well, in the. In the more you know, segment. Back in the comic book. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Yes. [00:52:59] Speaker A: In the more you know, segment, Superman explains that there are several sides to conflict and seldom not as simple as good and evil, illustrating why this comic isn't selling. [00:53:13] Speaker B: Oh, damn. [00:53:15] Speaker A: Because, dang. See, this. This is a comic book that's kind of fun and comic booky. And now everything has to be deconstructed and sad. [00:53:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:24] Speaker A: And anyway, basically, he apologizes to Lord Gallob and wants to go home. [00:53:36] Speaker B: Want to go home. [00:53:37] Speaker A: It's a sad day. We. We have a. Paul just showed up. Jiu Jitsu lawyer. Paul is here. [00:53:49] Speaker B: Paul in the house? [00:53:50] Speaker A: In the house. That's a surprising guest. I don't think he'll be a guest on the show, though. He looks. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Won't even pop his head and say, hey, everybody. [00:53:58] Speaker A: He can't even get back to my recording area. [00:54:00] Speaker B: I'm so. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Maybe he will. [00:54:03] Speaker B: He's not gonna. [00:54:04] Speaker A: I was just expecting Juliet to pop up because Jujitsu or Paul is here, but it's. Yeah. Just like. How do we know Paul appeared. Just like Jiu Jitsu, Laura. Paul appeared. We have an appearance at. By Lois Lane as Lois Lane. The heroes return home. [00:54:23] Speaker B: Who's she there? [00:54:26] Speaker A: I don't know. She doesn't really. I mean, this is the John Byrne era, right? So. Yeah. Are they dating or is he married to super Wonder Woman? Like. I don't know. [00:54:37] Speaker B: She's. She's there on her own accord to. To see whoever she wants to see. Oh, my gosh. She's there for Booster. [00:54:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Booster is news with a capital N. He was really taking the city by storm in a short time he's been here. Face it, Superman, you have some real competition now. No offense, John Q. Public. You your yesterday's news. Cheryl Washington being such. Maybe it's because he's such a jerk. [00:55:03] Speaker B: Yeah, Superman, you're a wash up, dude. You gotta. [00:55:09] Speaker A: You. [00:55:09] Speaker B: You're done. [00:55:11] Speaker A: Nobody wants to listen to you preach about how terrible everything is and how horrible everybody else is. [00:55:17] Speaker B: You just curl up and die. [00:55:20] Speaker A: Ah, meanwhile, we have the meanwhile section. [00:55:25] Speaker B: I know. [00:55:26] Speaker A: Meanwhile, Blue devil number 27. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Oh, damn. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Godfrey Goose is on the loose. I have no idea what that's about. Godfrey goose, number 18. I thought the. I thought Phantom Girl was. Last time we mentioned the peas. Last time I mentioned Phantom Girl. [00:55:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Phantom Zone, Phantom Stranger, Phantom Girl, Plastic man, and many more. In Plastic man, we scroll number seven. We know what. We know what's happened. We do. Infinity Inc. Number 29, Jade goes home. These. These legions don't sound very exciting. [00:56:00] Speaker B: Hey, check this book out. It's not that interesting. [00:56:04] Speaker A: Ah, here we go. New teen Titans. Number 23, the secret of Raven plus Starfire's fate. That sounds interesting. [00:56:10] Speaker B: Well, that does sound interesting. [00:56:11] Speaker A: Okay, Dark Knight number three. Hunt the Dark Knight with Batman versus the Joker plus Superman. See that? Admittedly, I was dogging on the Dark Knight Returns. But of the description so far, it. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Sounds pretty cool, right? [00:56:27] Speaker A: One sound pretty cool, and it actually is pretty cool. [00:56:31] Speaker B: Dan. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Sergeant rock number 411. The man behind rock reveals all Swamp Thing number 51. Swamp Thing returns home to learn of Abby's troubles as we ended the Gothic storyline. Yeah, yeah. Adventures of the Outsiders. This is the newsstand book number 36. The outsiders decide to relocate to Los Angeles. Oh, because when you're not friends with Batman anymore, you gotta leave Gotham. [00:57:00] Speaker B: Gotta get out of Gotham, everybody. We don't need that many superheroes. We only Batman, Green Lantern, Robin. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Green lantern, corpse number 203. Villains galore. And allout action. What? These descriptions are awful. [00:57:11] Speaker B: They are awful. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Warlord number 108, Morgan, meets a female nemesis. Worse than Deimos. Oh, whatever. I bet fake evil in from this comic shows up in warlord number 108. [00:57:26] Speaker B: That'd be pretty wild. [00:57:30] Speaker A: Well, we flipped the page back to the story and I can give you a page number, except there are none. [00:57:34] Speaker B: There are none. [00:57:37] Speaker A: And we've got here Lois Lane. Bwahaha. In the end of the story here. Got great hair, all sorts of things. She does have great hair. [00:57:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:53] Speaker A: And she's flirting with Superman and making him mad because he's a jerk. [00:58:01] Speaker B: She's flirting with Superman and flirting with Booster Gold. [00:58:05] Speaker A: And Booster Gold's flirting with somebody else. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:12] Speaker A: And he got. He got a number. 5, 5, 5, 9, 6. Is that 4, 6, 7, 2 or 9, 6, 7, 2? [00:58:25] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:58:25] Speaker A: Should we try that? [00:58:26] Speaker B: Yeah, we could, I guess. [00:58:29] Speaker A: I don't think 555 numbers work. Yeah, well, anyway, Superman is annoyed and ski. You don't like Booster, do you? Superman? Superman says, doesn't matter. Tell me one thing, though. Is he supposed to be here? And boost. And Skeet says, affirmative. My history records show Booster Gold who operated Metropolis. I know very little, though, due to the great time void that began in 1986. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Huh. A time void in 86, huh? [00:59:06] Speaker A: That's where they are. Yeah. How convenient. [00:59:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:10] Speaker A: Well, Superman says, just do me a favor. Promise me that you won't use your knowledge of the future destructively and keep him out of my way. Good news. Superman won't be back in this book. [00:59:24] Speaker B: Oh, shame. [00:59:30] Speaker A: And Booster's so clueless. He's like, hey, could he. Couldn't he even say goodbye? You think he doesn't like me? No, Booster, he. He's. Yeah, well, the book was called the. The story was called the Lesson by Dan Jurgens, Creator, writer, artist. Mike DeCarlo, inking Austin Moss letter, Gene D', Angelo, colorist, and Alan Gold, editor. Seems appropriate. Very. [01:00:03] Speaker B: It's a gold standard. [01:00:04] Speaker A: You've had an editor named Alan Gold this whole time? And they weren't the editor of the book from the start. [01:00:10] Speaker B: That's who you put on this if you want the gold standard for Booster Gold. [01:00:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, duh. Well, next issue, the Legion of Superheroes. [01:00:19] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Bringing out the big guns. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Unfortunately, the Legion of Super Pets will not be making an appearance. [01:00:28] Speaker B: So sad that. [01:00:30] Speaker A: That's. [01:00:32] Speaker B: I know, right? Is Skeet a pet, though? I don't think he's a pet. [01:00:37] Speaker A: I think he'd be a member of the Legion of Super Pets in the Silver Age. [01:00:40] Speaker B: You think so? We'll put that to the. We'll put that to the listeners. What do you think? Chime in and let us know. [01:00:48] Speaker A: I don't think the listeners care. [01:00:50] Speaker B: I think they care. I want to hear what they're thinking. You're like, whatever. [01:00:57] Speaker A: I want to know what they're thinking, too. Just like Matt Canardin from Extra road, Northampton, New Hampshire. [01:01:04] Speaker B: It's an extra road. [01:01:06] Speaker A: 3862. Yeah, it's X. No, it's X. Exeter. Exeter. [01:01:11] Speaker B: Exeter. I thought it was too extraordinary. It was. It's a double. It's two roads and one is Extra. [01:01:18] Speaker A: Well, I've never been to New Hampshire, but I understand it could be Extra Road now. There was a letter from somebody from Spokane, but I skipped that. Do you think we should reach out to that person, though? Find out if they're still around you? [01:01:30] Speaker B: Still around? [01:01:30] Speaker A: Well, this letter says. Well, the first three issues have come and gone very smoothly. The ideas are shaping up very interesting and are very interesting. No, hang on. Let me read that again. The ideas that are shaping up are very interesting, especially Booster's enigmatic Legion flight ring. I hope it's the real thing, although the style of the L doesn't quite match. But I'm still hoping there is a real connection between Booster and the Legion we all know and love. It's nice to see Booster and Metropolis firmly placed in the DC universe from the start, so we know where he fits in. Will we be seeing him in other DC titles soon? The supporting cast is coming along fine as well. I like Skeets as a sidekick, and as long as his role doesn't get too hyper, let's keep seeing him around. Nice cast of villains, too. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Did Matt read the books we were reading? I. [01:02:29] Speaker B: Black Guard is an amazing villain, but. [01:02:33] Speaker A: I'm waiting for a real heavy to show up. Yeah, I agree. No response to this letter because, of course, the Legion showing up next issue, so there's zero reason to respond. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Or Matt got nothing. [01:02:49] Speaker A: The Mighty Maple wrote another letter that was published here. I'm not going to read any of their letters because. Because, yes, there really should be, like, a book that just collects all of TM Maple's letters. [01:03:04] Speaker B: Ah, yes. [01:03:05] Speaker A: That would be awesome. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Maybe that's what you can do, Dan, is you can go through all. Yeah. [01:03:11] Speaker A: And just collect all of my Marvel comics and find every TM Maple letter. [01:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And then put them all in there and then find out that, you know, it was. It was literally just a marketing ploy. [01:03:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:29] Speaker B: There was multiple Mighty Maples writing all these letters. [01:03:32] Speaker A: Maybe there was. I don't know. Do you think we should write. TM Maple's probably not around anymore, I imagine. [01:03:40] Speaker B: No, but we could take the moniker and write as mighty as the Mighty Maple. The mightier maple. [01:03:48] Speaker A: Emm. [01:03:49] Speaker B: The mightier Mr. Maples. [01:03:52] Speaker A: The. Mm maple. [01:03:53] Speaker B: The. The magnificent Mr. Maples. [01:04:00] Speaker A: The magnanimous Mr. [01:04:02] Speaker B: The magnanimous Mr. Maples. And then we just start writing letters. [01:04:07] Speaker A: It's our. [01:04:08] Speaker B: Our own column for. For the podcast. [01:04:13] Speaker A: What if we. [01:04:14] Speaker B: It's a joke, but it's. It's pretty serious. [01:04:17] Speaker A: What if we would. You wrote letters, listeners to the creators of these books that are still alive. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yes. [01:04:25] Speaker A: About their book from 1986. So, like, we wrote Dan Jurgens, like, a letter. Column letter right now and sent it to him. [01:04:32] Speaker B: That would be. [01:04:33] Speaker A: That would be hilarious. [01:04:35] Speaker B: Dear Dan, just got done reading Booster Gold number seven. I have to tell you, never in my life would. I had thought that my socks could be knocked off in such a way. But when you pitted Booster Gold against Superman, I didn't know what to expect. Now I know Superman could have easily. [01:05:14] Speaker A: Now I'm yawning. Now you've got Meteon. Yep. [01:05:18] Speaker B: But Booster Gold held his own purely by sheer will and sheer luck. Or is that just my imagination? Please tell me. [01:05:35] Speaker A: Is it just your imagination running away with you? [01:05:38] Speaker B: Is it just my imagination? [01:05:40] Speaker A: Oh, wait, wait. We can't talk about him right now. Oops. Smokey Robinson references. Okay, weird. [01:05:50] Speaker B: We're off of that. [01:05:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Anyways, moving on. So, yeah, we could. We could that writing. Writing letters to the. To the creators of books that we're reading years. Years in the future from the past. [01:06:09] Speaker A: That can be kind of awesome. [01:06:11] Speaker B: It would be funny. And seeing what they. Well, could be. Could be humorous and seeing if they actually respond. [01:06:20] Speaker A: We do get an advertisement for All Star Squadron where the search for the Justice Society is continuing. [01:06:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:06:31] Speaker A: Anything else you'd like to say about this comic book? [01:06:33] Speaker B: I, you know, I mean, like you said, it's a pretty straightforward standard, standard story in a sense. But I would say that as much as I was joking about in my imaginary story to Dan about the fight between Superman and Booster girl, I do find it interesting that, you know, Superman knowing that, you know, he overpowers Booster so much would hold himself back, even though, you know, he's obviously getting angered by Booster and could, could have stopped the fight a number of times by. Anyway, but he didn't, you know, he, he, he waited it out, you know, and it just, and it shows, it shows that even though we say that Superman's a jerk, he's not a jerk. Because if he was truly a big jerk, he would have done that. He would have power moved him. He would have, he would have iced him up. He would have with his chill breath. He would have, he would have low lasered him with his eyes and hit him with a blast and taken him down or he would have, he would have baby powdered that hand of his up and gave him a little, little slappity slap across the face and maybe put him to sleep. But he didn't do any of those things, Dan. [01:08:11] Speaker A: He just. I kind of think that Lois Lane trolling him at the end of the story indicated how much of a jerk he was being and that Lois was like putting him his place. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that, that just that, I mean, really what that comes down to is, I mean, Lois knows Superman well more like better than anyone. And Lois definitely, she put him in his place. She knows that he's a big jerk and that, you know, he, he's, he's being, he's, he's being a jerk up to that. Up to that point, most likely, and has been probably a jerk to that point. And she, she has no problem telling him or, you know, using her. Using her own ability. No problem doing that. [01:09:06] Speaker A: No problem. [01:09:07] Speaker B: No problem. And that's what makes her such a great character. [01:09:11] Speaker A: Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. I think Lois is a great character. [01:09:20] Speaker B: No matter what. What storyline she's in. Okay, okay, okay, okay. [01:09:28] Speaker A: I mean, there was Superman's girlfriend, Lois lane in the 60s, but if you. [01:09:33] Speaker B: Don'T have her, then you don't get the other Lois is Dan. [01:09:37] Speaker A: That's fair. Well, are we going back on that again? Didn't would that. Let's, let's rehash the whole beginning of the podcast if you don't have that in comics history, then you don't get this. And you don't get this. If you don't have shit, you don't get a sandwich. [01:09:52] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. And, and we all like that. And that's why we read this book. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Well, I will say, yeah, next issue we get the Legion of Superheroes. It is interesting and I want to explore this next time because I feel like all along, Dan Dragons has kind of given us hints of what's next every issue. [01:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:18] Speaker A: And outside of the flight ring, there's really no lead up to this next story. [01:10:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Outside of the flight ring, you, you know that they've got to exist, but you don't know much. [01:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So read, read along with us because I, I, I was curious. This one seems like the most. Outside of the flight ring, the most forced team up kind of thing because. Yeah, this, this story more so than sort of comes out of nowhere. And, and we went away from the the 1000 for a couple issues. [01:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:51] Speaker A: And they're gonna appear again. [01:10:53] Speaker B: Oh, they're back doing their MLM again. [01:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And unless you're in the BC plots, we really haven't been mentioning them at all. Right. We haven't been mentioning Senator or whatever his name was. [01:11:06] Speaker B: Is he come back to. [01:11:08] Speaker A: Haven't seen Diamond Face. [01:11:09] Speaker B: We have Diamond Face. No. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah, well, which is Senator so and so. Right. And Diamond Face are the same person. Right. So get out of here, Cobra Commander. Yeah, we haven't, so we haven't seen any of Cobra. I mean the 1000. And now they're going to be back. [01:11:25] Speaker B: So. [01:11:26] Speaker A: Yeah, next time we'll get into that. Also. Yeah, just we have some really important announcements. First off, Jiu Jitsu Lawyer Paul was already here. He looked not interested in joining the podcast, as if he had been working out and wanted to go do more. Working out. Yeah, it's almost like to be the lawyer, he can choke out your lawyer, their lawyer. You have to work out all the time. [01:11:52] Speaker B: You gotta, you gotta stay, you gotta stay. Keep your eye on the prize and stay. [01:12:00] Speaker A: In fighting shape. Yeah. So, but if you, if you need some legal help, you can contact Night Legal or you can head over for some Jiu Jitsu training at Certified martial arts on 27th in Jackson slash Bridgeport in Tacoma, slash University Place. There's a lot of slashes there. A lot of slashing going on. It's a lot of slashing. Also someday. I have no idea when because it says September someday. The Kickstarter for. Yeah, okay, hang on. [01:12:37] Speaker B: Oh, no. Okay, he's getting it, folks. He's, he's, he's pulling it all together. [01:12:43] Speaker A: The Kickstarter for the sequel to Nemesis by Albert Pune. [01:12:56] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:58] Speaker A: Called the Return of Alex Rain someday. Going to launch on Kickstarter. And if you want to find out when, you can click the link in the show description and get notified on the launch. And that book is written by the co author of Starlight, our good friend Travis Webb, and going to be drawn by Brett Wadelli. [01:13:38] Speaker B: Did Travis pay you to say it all correctly? [01:13:41] Speaker A: No, I'm just amazing. I get everything correct on this show. I don't know what you're talking about. I've announced this right several weeks in. [01:13:49] Speaker B: A row because Travis told me in a instant message that he just PayPal'd you to say it all correctly. [01:13:58] Speaker A: That is not true. But if Travis does want to pay me for fantastic advertising, he can. I, I kid, PayPal is very easy is. You can just Message me at dshabbitiveive.com on PayPal and send me all the money you want to. [01:14:18] Speaker B: All of it. Kaching, Kaching, Kaching. [01:14:20] Speaker A: I will happily accept your money. [01:14:26] Speaker B: Send him my way and you'll say everything correctly. [01:14:30] Speaker A: I think I should just be paid for my general greatness. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Just paid for your general greatness? [01:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, in general. But if you want to pay me to say things, I'm always open to that too. [01:14:39] Speaker B: You hear that? So if you pay Dan, he'll say whatever you want. [01:14:43] Speaker A: Oh, that is not true. [01:14:44] Speaker B: He's a pay. He's a pay parrot. [01:14:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that is not true. Look, if you heard it here on. [01:14:50] Speaker B: The Facebook forensics folks, if you pay dan at his PayPal, which he just told you, he will be one of the next podcast. So pay Dan, he'll. [01:15:00] Speaker A: On the next. [01:15:01] Speaker B: He'll say pay Dan. [01:15:02] Speaker A: He'll say it now. Yeah, I mean, I might say it now. What I say before and after, you don't know that's true. [01:15:13] Speaker B: You don't know. It's a mystery. It's like a mystery box. [01:15:17] Speaker A: You. And if you've heard my advertising copy, I don't know that you want me to say things. [01:15:22] Speaker B: You, you get, you get kind of what you want in a mystery box. But then there's also the other thing. Yeah, there's. And that's, that's what you were getting before and after. So you might get Dan to say the thing, but you. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Like if you wanted, if you, if you sent me money on PayPal and wanted me to say Donald Trump is the greatest president in the history of the United States. I might say that on the podcast, but what goes before and after that statement might be something like, in the history of the United States, allegedly for being the most self aggrandizing piece of shit, treasonous asshole ever. [01:16:13] Speaker B: But yeah, there you go. [01:16:16] Speaker A: I might say what you were looking for. [01:16:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:20] Speaker A: And if you ever clipped this, just that part, I will kill you. [01:16:26] Speaker B: Allegedly. [01:16:29] Speaker A: Allegedly kill you. No, there's. There's no allegedly. [01:16:35] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure Paul would say that. You have to say that. [01:16:40] Speaker A: Paul's not here. [01:16:42] Speaker B: Well, you said Paul is there. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Well, in addition to all of this, Absolute Zero's Camp Launchpad is still for sale. If you want it signed. You could meet Greg at the Retro Emporium on Meeker street in Kent, Washington. Just look up Meeker Street, Kent, Washington. You'll get there eventually and you'll find. [01:17:03] Speaker B: All the other fantastic places there as well. But you'll find the Retro Emporium. I'll be there. [01:17:08] Speaker A: You'll find more than rocks or rocks and more. I always. I can't remember. [01:17:12] Speaker B: More than rocks. [01:17:13] Speaker A: More than rocks. [01:17:14] Speaker B: More. More than rocks. It's. It's kind of funny. [01:17:16] Speaker A: Rocks and more. A better name. [01:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's more than rocks. It you go there and there's literally just more than rocks there. [01:17:25] Speaker A: Right, but if the main store was rocks and then you wanted. And there was more things and rocks and more. But if you say more than rocks, that implies that rocks are a secondary thing and there's like an extension of. [01:17:40] Speaker B: Yeah, because there's more than rocks. [01:17:43] Speaker A: Like if you advertised more than comics, then you'd be advertising that comics were the secondary part of your store. But if you had comics and more, you'd be implying that the main part of the store was comics and then there was some other stuff there too. [01:17:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's true. [01:18:04] Speaker A: Well, anyway, you're right. We. We have finished the podcast called Analyzing Store Names. [01:18:11] Speaker B: Analyzing Store Names. [01:18:12] Speaker A: You can all also pay me for. I'm hireable. You can hire me for a whole rebranding effort if you'd like. I will happily help you rebrand your store to make the name of the store sound more like what's in the store. [01:18:23] Speaker B: Yes. What's in the store. What's in store. Yeah, that's good. [01:18:30] Speaker A: Being I'm very literal, so it makes it really easy to do these things. Books. Said no one. Yeah, they have books. That's the new name of the store. Yeah. Like I could rename Page Turner Books in Kent. Who we don't even Advertise. Why would we? Well, because most of the books in there are not page turners. [01:18:56] Speaker B: They're books. They don't even have cookbooks. I was, My mother in law was so upset, she wanted a cookbook and she went in there and asked for a cookbook and he was like, we don't, we don't have. [01:19:05] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait. Your mother in law went into that. [01:19:08] Speaker B: Shithole and asked for a cookbook? And he's like, we don't carry those here. And she was very upset because she, she wanted a cookbook. [01:19:18] Speaker A: I want to see your mother in law's interaction with that human that owns the store. [01:19:22] Speaker B: Oh, it was, it was not, it was not great. But I mean, hey, I, I, you know, I have not many things to say about. [01:19:30] Speaker A: Okay, well, anyway, this, this, I love. [01:19:33] Speaker B: My mother in law. She's fantastic. [01:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah. This update on the, this update on the state of Kent businesses is brought to you by Funny Big Forensics. And we're quickly moving away from this topic. That's it. We have nothing else to plug. Things are fun and we'll be back with more. I do have things to plug, though. You can look out for some funny book forensic shorts on YouTube, Facebook and Instagram now. [01:19:57] Speaker B: Shorts? Like we're selling shorts now? [01:20:00] Speaker A: Like, like, no, we give you like short clips of the podcast during the week after we release it. Like, get you hungry for more of the podcast or video? Well, kind of. It just depends. [01:20:12] Speaker B: People can see a video of the, of the show. [01:20:15] Speaker A: Well, I might give you a video, but maybe some like, clips of the thing we're talking about. Like a little picture, like of a comic or something. Maybe a picture of Travis. I don't know. Like, it could happen. [01:20:25] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:20:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you watch the short, and then it'll have a link to the bigger video podcast on YouTube. [01:20:34] Speaker B: Wow, that's amazing, Dan. [01:20:36] Speaker A: And you know, if you watch on YouTube, you should like and subscribe. [01:20:43] Speaker B: No way. Do you think people do that? [01:20:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. You like and subscribe. [01:20:50] Speaker B: Oh, if you do that, people, that'll make me happy and that'll make Dan happy. And when we're happy, that makes us want to do more shows for you. [01:21:00] Speaker A: And the good news is, if you like and subscribe, we're not getting paid because all of our podcasts will be demonetized because there's too much cussing and reality in them. [01:21:08] Speaker B: We, Yeah, I mean, we just, we do this just purely because we enjoy doing it. We're just two friends hanging out. So. [01:21:15] Speaker A: But if you did we could. You could also comment on the podcast. [01:21:18] Speaker B: Oh yeah, comment on the podcast. [01:21:20] Speaker A: Terrible it is when we. Oh, that's Superman. [01:21:22] Speaker B: Yeah. You can, you can give us a five star rating, but then tell us how terrible things are. Always give us a five star rating, but then tell us what you really think. [01:21:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. We love fake reviews. [01:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, no, it's not a fake review. It's a. It's a. [01:21:38] Speaker A: You. [01:21:38] Speaker B: You can, you can tell us whatever you want. Just give us a five star rating. [01:21:42] Speaker A: We love many reviews. Well, anyway, that's it. I'm done. I think we are now moving on. Next time, yeah. It will either be, oh, easter gold number eight. [01:21:54] Speaker B: Okay. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Or. [01:21:57] Speaker B: Huh. [01:21:58] Speaker A: The 2025 Christmas Spectacular. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Christmas Spectacular. [01:22:04] Speaker A: We have not decided yet. I. I have to like, look and see when all the dates of these happen. But it's. I have to align my chakras. [01:22:14] Speaker B: Yes. You must get them aligned. Well, yeah, you gotta see what Deepak says and get your chakras aligned and you know, get yourself like, you know, ready and get the colors. [01:22:29] Speaker A: Gotta go down. Yeah. [01:22:31] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah. And see where. [01:22:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:33] Speaker B: J.C. knight says and see if. What was it Zothra, not Zathra. You know. [01:22:43] Speaker A: All right, this podcast is flown off the wheels, you two. If you buy a copy of Absolute Zero's Camp Watchpad, Greg will not only sign an MxPx CD for you and send it with the book, but he will also give you a ticket to see Ramtha. [01:22:59] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. No, I will not. Although my co worker at work was. I. We were talking about it and then he was like, I'm gonna get everybody gift cards for the holidays. And then he started to like, go down the rabbit hole and found out that you can buy gift cards. [01:23:16] Speaker A: And try to give people gift cards. [01:23:18] Speaker B: I don't know why, but. [01:23:21] Speaker A: Well, gift cards are the number one currency of scammers. Yeah. [01:23:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Because you're never going to use it, but people are going to pay for them. [01:23:32] Speaker A: So. Well, anyway, I never thought, as we conclude for the third time. [01:23:38] Speaker B: Yes. [01:23:39] Speaker A: That this podcast about book number seven will last an hour and 23 minutes. But it did. [01:23:44] Speaker B: It did. It did. [01:23:45] Speaker A: Dan, we're logging off now. We love you. [01:23:47] Speaker B: It's just as long as the movie. Steel. [01:23:50] Speaker A: We'll talk to you soon. And our destiny to sadness. Goodbye. [01:23:57] Speaker B: Bye.