Funny Book Forensics 420 Booster Christmas Present Past

[00:00:05] Speaker A: We can't even get the counter to work correctly on this podcast. [00:00:08] Speaker B: Poop. [00:00:09] Speaker A: It was like, start 3, 1, 2. [00:00:17] Speaker B: And then it went. [00:00:18] Speaker A: So I. Yeah. I just realized that we don't have a Christmas podcast this year. [00:00:24] Speaker B: We don't. You didn't find a book for us to. To read? [00:00:28] Speaker A: Well, no, I just screwed up. And the last podcast came out on, like, what is seven days? The 21st. And this one's coming out on the 28th. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Well, why don't. [00:00:38] Speaker A: I mean, we recorded this one on the 28th. Like this future. Yeah, Future is about the future and time travel and stuff. [00:00:48] Speaker B: We can always wizard something. We're wizards. [00:00:51] Speaker A: Well, we can, but I. I now get to show the world Anne's Christmas present. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Oh, my. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Your Christmas present. Well, your Christmas present is still. Right. [00:01:01] Speaker B: Yeah, my Christmas present is right there. Yeah. I mean, you've been taunting me with my Christmas present for. For months now. Yeah. [00:01:10] Speaker A: Well, I really want you to know you've got one arm. [00:01:13] Speaker B: One arm. Not to go collect the rest. [00:01:16] Speaker A: Robots. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And someday at some toy show somewhere, Ann is going to be finding the rest of the arms. Except these will be worth, like, a dollar, so that'll be good. [00:01:29] Speaker B: Of course. [00:01:31] Speaker A: Or. Or she could just keep getting you arms. [00:01:34] Speaker B: Just arms. Just. [00:01:35] Speaker A: Just a bunch of arms. If you're not watching on video, the Superman action figures come with extra. We've mentioned this before. Extra parts to form a number four Superman robot. Oh, and Guy Gardner here, known as Green Lantern, which is insulting to every other Green Lantern. [00:01:55] Speaker B: It is insulting to every other Green Lantern. I'm just going to call him Nathan. [00:02:01] Speaker A: It also says. It also says warning, choking hazards, small parts. So I'm not sure if I can give this to you. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Oh, no, I can't have the present. But even better. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Happy holidays to everyone. Yes. Merry Christmas to those that celebrate. I have had a long history of trying to host game nights. And last time I mentioned hosting a game night, Ann said, I will not come to your game nights because they're boring and nobody will play games with me. [00:02:35] Speaker B: She likes baby games. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Is that an approximate. Is that an approximation of what we said she likes. [00:02:40] Speaker B: She likes baby games. And all the games that are usually at your game nights are. Are rule laden and difficult for her to. To track and keep. Keep track of everything that's going on. And. And she likes. She likes things like, you know, say, Candy Land, shoots and ladders, things like that, you know, are cheesy. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Well, I think I found the perfect game for you and Ann to play. [00:03:04] Speaker B: Okay. What Is that. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Well, I found this. I was. I was listening to I'll Shout out the podcast. I guess it's called Stacking Benjamins. Every year they have a gaming podcast and this year they had the. A tiktoker who's from a game store in Pittsburgh. And I'm totally blanking on the name of the game store, of course, of course. As their guest. But they were counting kind of your best five games and then your best five party games. Okay. And so this game store, I think it might be called Games Unlimited or something like that. It seemed like it had a simple name. Anyway, it's a tiktoker from Pittsburgh. If you're in the gaming world, you'll know who it is. I don't, but he said one of their best selling games and the game that everybody goes and plays and has fun was a really simple game. And I also think it'll have a theme that Ann will like. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Okay. [00:03:59] Speaker A: It's called Be Boop Boop. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Yes. See, your job is you place cats and kittens on the bed. Okay. And the kittens can boop kittens, but they can't boop cats. But the cats can boop kittens and cats. And your job is to boop all of everything off the bed so you can sleep on the bed yourself. [00:04:23] Speaker B: I see. [00:04:25] Speaker A: You see? See, I think that's. I think that's. Can you boop your cats into position to win or will you just get booped right off the bed? Ah. And it is a 15 minute play time. [00:04:38] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Is what they say. I figured this was not an old game, but an actual new game would like. [00:04:49] Speaker B: It's a new game and it's cute and it's adorable. [00:04:53] Speaker A: Little cats in their bed. [00:04:55] Speaker B: Cats in a bed. Totally. I like it. I think she will. [00:05:00] Speaker A: So. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:01] Speaker A: Well, in the future past, Anne will get this Christmas present. [00:05:05] Speaker B: Yes. [00:05:06] Speaker A: And in the future past you'll. The listeners will find out about this Christmas present. And in the future future, we'll let you know if Ann liked the game. [00:05:15] Speaker B: Yes, we will. We'll tell. [00:05:17] Speaker A: And Greg, because it's a two person game. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Two person gotta boop the cats. You gotta boop the cats and the kittens. But the kittens cannot boop cats. But the cats can boop the kittens. [00:05:30] Speaker A: And the cats also potentially, since it's a 15 minute game. Yeah. Even though it only can have two people. It's not a party game, but it's something that could be done at a party, rotating players. Right. Or people could be doing things like walking around talking to people, having a drink and then rotate in while other people played other long play games at the big table. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah, see, there you go. So that works. [00:06:00] Speaker A: You don't seem excited about that. [00:06:02] Speaker B: I am excited about the booping. It's been a long day. 3 o' clock came early today. But the boobing does sound fun. Who doesn't want to bear my kittens and cats? [00:06:13] Speaker A: You're no selling the booping. [00:06:14] Speaker B: I listeners. Did I know no sell. Did I no sell the booping? I'm pretty sure I was pretty excited about the booping. I didn't jump out of the chair and, and scream and dance and, and jump up and like, But I mean, I mean I could have, I didn't. [00:06:34] Speaker A: You didn't. You sound like you don't, you don't sound booped. [00:06:39] Speaker B: I, I, I am excited to find out if she is excited to boop kittens and cats. I want to know will she boop the kittens and cats off the bed? [00:06:58] Speaker A: What if she set up mousetrap and. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Boop the kittens and cats into the mouse trap? Yeah, I don't know. [00:07:08] Speaker A: Well, we are off to the podcast now. Yes, we're off away from booping cats. We'll give you an update on booping of cats. I also believe Travis would be a big fan of the booping of cats game. [00:07:20] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah, he probably would be. [00:07:22] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure. Maybe Ann and Travis could bond over cat booping. [00:07:26] Speaker B: They could, they could. [00:07:28] Speaker A: That would be an interesting combination. [00:07:30] Speaker B: I know it would be interesting to see them play this game. [00:07:35] Speaker A: I think they would take very different approaches. [00:07:37] Speaker B: They would. I'm, I am sure of it. I, I am sure that Travis's approach to the game and then also maybe his, his distractionary tactics that Travis carries in his back pocket may come in handy. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, do you think Travis is just distracting in general or. [00:08:02] Speaker B: No, I mean, we had a, we had a fine conversation yesterday. It was very on, on track and on, on target. So. No, I, I think I, I think Travis can, Travis when Travis, Travis is. But I think for the most time, most part, Travis can also have full on regular non Travisy Travis conversation. [00:08:29] Speaker A: Well, he was, you know, it seemed like there for a minute he was attempting to replace you as the co host of this podcast. [00:08:36] Speaker B: I, Well, I mean he may try and he may succeed once in a while. [00:08:44] Speaker A: I didn't even have a better camera. [00:08:46] Speaker B: Oh my goodness. I mean, hey, I, I know, I know what you're getting at. I know what you're Getting at. And. And that's fine. You. You want to go there? Is that what you want to do? You want to go there? Is that. Is that what you want? You don't want to go there. That's right. [00:09:04] Speaker A: I feel completely comfortable in everything that I'm saying. I don't know what you're saying. [00:09:12] Speaker B: I. I don't know either. I know that. That you don't like my camera. [00:09:18] Speaker A: Well, no, because you have a better camera and you just won't get it out. You're keeping it in the closet. And we know this is 2025 and it's not time to have things in the closet. [00:09:27] Speaker B: It's true. [00:09:28] Speaker A: I'm not. [00:09:29] Speaker B: It might not be in the closet, Dan. It might be on the. It might be behind my. My desk. That's actually probably where it is. It probably fell behind the desk. And I don't want to. I'm scared, Dan. There's spiders back there. Maybe even mud wasps made a nest back there. And I'm scared to get back there. [00:09:46] Speaker A: And very frustrated right now about the. [00:09:49] Speaker B: About the. [00:09:49] Speaker A: The camera because my phone just beeped and I have it on silent. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Oh, no, I didn't hear it. [00:09:56] Speaker A: This happened when we were recording at the store too. [00:09:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:09:58] Speaker A: What kind of world is this where you can flip the silent thing on and it's. And then it beeps anyways. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Well, because your phone wants you to know that it cares about you, Dan. It cares about you and it wants to be part of its life. [00:10:13] Speaker A: And you're going to embrace this because it gets you out of camera talk. [00:10:15] Speaker B: It's 2025, Dan. Let the phone be part of your life. Or don't you? [00:10:23] Speaker A: It's. Well, I just wanted to jump in, I guess, to something here and you're. We've made it 10 minutes and we've talked about booping. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Booping. And cameras and phones. And Travis. [00:10:40] Speaker A: And Travis. And none of that is about Booster Gold number eight, which is what we're supposed to be talking about today. [00:10:45] Speaker B: No, but one could say it's about a legion of things. Of things and stuff. There is a come together. [00:10:52] Speaker A: There is a legion of things going on. [00:10:53] Speaker B: There are. And it all comes together to make something golden. Something gold. Something that you could say this conversation was stolen or boosted or Booster Golden. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Well, there is something that was happening that was gold and it wasn't in this comic. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? What's that? [00:11:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Well. Well, let's. We should start off with the COVID Yeah, we should. [00:11:20] Speaker B: It's a good cover. [00:11:20] Speaker A: We have Dan Jurgens and Mike DeCarlo. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Uh huh. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Mike DeCarlo. Also inking Greg Laroque on the Legion of Superheroes book at this time. Dan Jurgen's about a year off of drawing Legion of Superheroes books, So it makes sense to, after Superman appears to have some of the characters from your third best selling comic. [00:11:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:52] Speaker A: Which used to be your second best selling comic. Come on, show up and hang out. And come on. So you've got Superman revitalized, hanging out with Booster Gold, and then now you've got the Legion of Superheroes. Well, not all of them. That'd be a lot. [00:12:09] Speaker B: Oh, that'd be too many. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Three on the COVID now. Can you name them? Great. [00:12:14] Speaker B: Let's see. I think we have if. [00:12:21] Speaker A: You know, we only did Legion of Superheroes books for, like, 13 issues. [00:12:25] Speaker B: I know, I know. Hold on a second. I want to say the guy. The guy that looks like he just got punched in the face. That's. Oh, man. Why can't I think of his name? Shoot. He's the guy that. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Right here. [00:12:46] Speaker B: I know. He's the guy that can change. [00:12:48] Speaker A: He's great podcasting. [00:12:49] Speaker B: He's the guy that can change it. He can change into stuff. Camille. Chameleon Boy. Chameleon Kid. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that. That's correct. Chameleon Boy is Chameleon Boy. [00:12:57] Speaker B: And then. And then the other guy, the green face guy. That's. That's not Green Goblin. That's a. Oh, man. He is the guy that Booster stole his belt from, but he took it. [00:13:10] Speaker A: From the future several times. [00:13:12] Speaker B: It was in the past. It was. And he's got, like a name that's kind of like a computer, but it's. And Megalomaniac man. No, Brainiac. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I know you know the answer. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Okay. Brainiac. And then the other guy. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Brainiac. [00:13:28] Speaker B: It's not Brain. [00:13:28] Speaker A: It's not Brainiac. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Oh, it's not Brain. What is. [00:13:30] Speaker A: He has a designation. Brainiac would be an evil supercomputer that, like, steals planets and stuff. [00:13:36] Speaker B: Okay, so. Shoot, man. Brain face. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Brainiac 5. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Brainiac 5. Okay. Brainiac 5. Okay. And then. And then that's. That's Mighty Boy. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Mighty Boy. Yeah. I would say that their intelligence might be equal. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:14:03] Speaker A: In a bad way. [00:14:04] Speaker B: Okay, who. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Because I don't think Mighty Boy rolled high on the intelligence dice. Yeah, no, at least the way you and Travis wrote him. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, it's. Oh, man, I. [00:14:18] Speaker A: He can only use one power at a time. But he has all the same powers as Superman, basically. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Oh, it said. [00:14:30] Speaker A: That's ultra Boy. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Ultra Boy. Ultra Boy. [00:14:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:33] Speaker B: I knew it was something. Boy. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Now, do you. Do you know the other character on. [00:14:37] Speaker B: The COVID The other character on the COVID Booster Gold. [00:14:41] Speaker A: Yes. Good job. [00:14:43] Speaker B: And the bridge. Of course. The bridge is a character everybody knows. [00:14:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:47] Speaker B: The Brooklyn. [00:14:49] Speaker A: That's a character. The Metropolis Bridge. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Metropolis Bridge. The Metropolis Bridge. [00:14:55] Speaker A: It's. Well, they're fighting in the sky and we get a thing that says Superman number 432 concludes in Action Comics 583. Whoa. Do we. Do we want to know what was happening in Superman 432? [00:15:08] Speaker B: I don't know what was happening in Superman. [00:15:10] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm. I'm being very professional. We're looking it up. [00:15:14] Speaker B: Looking it up. [00:15:16] Speaker A: It says it came out in 1987. So this must have been a January book because the COVID date here is 7 is September 1986. And it looks like Superman was in the story. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:30] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. It looks like it was written by Marv Wolfman. [00:15:34] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:15:35] Speaker A: Never heard of that guy. And it looks like he was carrying some stuff. [00:15:45] Speaker B: Okay. Just carrying some things and some stuff. [00:15:49] Speaker A: Around, like holding up a building or something. Okay. Kind of bad, actually. Yeah. [00:15:53] Speaker B: Not good. [00:15:56] Speaker A: So there you go. [00:15:57] Speaker B: It concludes. [00:15:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I guess we could look up what happened in Action Comics 583, I suppose. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Or not. [00:16:06] Speaker A: But we could. I mean, we could. Let's not, though. So we have a legion of superheroes. It's September 1986, cover date. And the Legion looks like they're beating up Booster. And it says, did anyone tell them he's the good guy? [00:16:23] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. Because they're after him. They're after Booster. [00:16:29] Speaker A: And we get a. On the. We flip the page and we get Dan Jurgens just wanting to draw three legionnaires. [00:16:38] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just straight up boom. It's a nice. It's. It's a good page. [00:16:43] Speaker A: It's a great page. Yeah. The future Metropolis. The Time Institute. 2986 A.D. you summoned us here regarding an exciting new discovery, Chronarch. What exactly do you have to show us? And they find a beat up time bubble. [00:17:02] Speaker B: Oh, my. [00:17:05] Speaker A: And it doesn't beat. Yeah. It doesn't look good. [00:17:08] Speaker B: No. Smash. [00:17:10] Speaker A: And Ultra Boy is like. Looks kind of busted up. So I'm gonna say that Ultra Boy and Booster probably will have very intellectual conversations with each other. [00:17:23] Speaker B: They're gonna. They're gonna talk about rock and roll and cars and comic books. [00:17:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Yeah. They're gonna. [00:17:32] Speaker A: We find out. We find out. We find out that this time it was A time machine stolen by one Michael Carter. [00:17:44] Speaker B: Oh, my. [00:17:45] Speaker A: Who's that in 2462? Now we know about this because we already knew it was stolen. Because it was. They told us last issue or two issues ago. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:17:55] Speaker A: When Skeets told Superman all about Booster Gold. [00:17:57] Speaker B: That's right. [00:17:59] Speaker A: We found out he stole a time machine. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:03] Speaker A: A force shield belt and a Legion flight ring. And that's what we're worried about here, is because the Chronarch of the Time Institute found the force shield belt. Oh, and Brainiac 5 is not really excited about this. [00:18:26] Speaker B: No, he's not. No, no. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Like, we got to go find this guy and pretty much take him out. [00:18:33] Speaker B: He's like, that's mine. Why did he have it? [00:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Now this was a really interesting turn of events. Sort of we're going to get. Now we flip the page. And before we flip the page, because we're going to find out why Booster crashed the time bubble. In Legion of Superheroes, there had been a about year long mystery going on with a character named Sensor Girl. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Huh. [00:19:08] Speaker A: And Sensor Girl joined the Legion with four other new Legionnaires. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:19:17] Speaker A: She was recommended by Saturn Girl. You do remember who Saturn Girl is? [00:19:20] Speaker B: Yes, I remember Saturn Girl. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Okay. And she joined the Legion and she wore a mask. And no legionnaires wore masks. It's the future. You don't have to wear masks. As a superhero, nobody knew who she was. [00:19:37] Speaker B: She's a secret. [00:19:39] Speaker A: And originally there were a lot of rumors going around on who she could possibly be. The biggest rumor was that she was like a clone of Supergirl or Supergirl that Brainiac 5 rescued from the crisis. Do you remember that cover on legion of superheroes 16? I've shared with you a few times where Brainiac 5 is. The Red background, he's like crying tears watching Supergirl die. [00:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:05] Speaker A: The saddest covers I've ever seen. [00:20:07] Speaker B: Sad cover. [00:20:09] Speaker A: But it's impactful. It's a great cover. And here we have. You get the. The month before, and then this month is the continuation of the story. You finally get the reveal of this big mystery that's been going on for like a year. [00:20:28] Speaker B: Who is she? [00:20:33] Speaker A: Well, it turned out that she was a character called Princess Projector. [00:20:40] Speaker B: Oh my. [00:20:43] Speaker A: And she had come back after her husband, Karate Kid was murdered. [00:20:48] Speaker B: Murdered after their wedding. [00:20:52] Speaker A: After their wedding. Yeah. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Sad. No honeymoon. [00:20:55] Speaker A: I know. So. By her. [00:20:57] Speaker B: By her own family. [00:21:00] Speaker A: And now. He wasn't murdered by their family. He was murdered by Nemesis Kid. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Oh, Nemesis. Okay. [00:21:06] Speaker A: And then she murdered Nemesis Kid. But we didn't read those ones. That's past. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Where we read it was. [00:21:13] Speaker A: But. But this mystery storyline had kept Legion hot. But one of the thoughts was after Crisis and John Byrne comes in, there's some lore that it was always supposed to be Censor Girl or it was always supposed to be Projectra. But there's also some rumors out there that it was supposed to be Supergirl. And because John Byrne came in and there was no Superboy and no Supergirl, the Superman editorial office wouldn't let Paul Levitt. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Use the character and the block. [00:21:54] Speaker A: So we have some past future kind of screwiness going on in the other book. But Legion is pretty hot with this big mystery going on. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Everything happening. We flip the page and it says the past. [00:22:11] Speaker B: The past. [00:22:12] Speaker A: I'm just going to leave that right there. Legion's pretty hot with everything going on. We get to the past. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:23] Speaker A: And one of the most important things too is side note, before I get to the past, I left out an important thing. We've talked about this before. Legion is in issue 26. [00:22:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Of what's called their Baxter Run. Same with Teen Titans around that. It's a direct sales only book. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Okay. [00:22:41] Speaker A: So you can only buy the book if you go to a comic shop. We are two issues away from reprints stopping. So I actually bought these books a year later, like this number 26. I bought it one year later than when it came out because I bought it off the newsstand and I bought the reprint copy and the reprints stop after. There's one more issue after this and the reprints stop. So the idea was we're going to make these books direct sale only, but one year behind. We will reprint new Teen Titans. We will reprint the Legion because they're popular books and we want people to have access to them. [00:23:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:24] Speaker A: So here's what's messed up as a kid. [00:23:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:28] Speaker A: I'm getting those other stories one year behind this story, which I also bought off the newsstand. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Ah. So it's not jiving together too well. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:41] Speaker A: I have no idea what's going on. [00:23:43] Speaker B: You're like, why? What? What? But yeah. [00:23:47] Speaker A: And so it's good. I think if this story doesn't tie into the Legion at all. Because you had some people reading the current stories. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:02] Speaker A: And you had some people reading a year behind. [00:24:07] Speaker B: So an encapsulated story that's on its own legs is good for the people behind. [00:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Now ultimately, probably taking your two best selling books from 1984 and making them direct sales only. Probably not the soundest business strategy at the time. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe not. [00:24:31] Speaker A: I mean, long term. Yes. Everything went direct. Well, not everything. You can still buy them. But most things are direct sale. [00:24:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:38] Speaker A: But short term, probably, if you're trying to preserve those titles and keep them hot, probably making them direct sales is not the best strategy. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:48] Speaker A: It would be like taking X Men and making it direct sale at the time and. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Got to show up and. [00:24:55] Speaker A: Get it when you get it. And, and, and we know, we know who won. Right. Like Legion and Teen Titans did not maintain their momentum. [00:25:03] Speaker B: No. [00:25:04] Speaker A: For. For a variety of reasons. There were some Marv Wolfman burnout. There was some Superman office editorial fuckery with the Legion stories. But I'm sure the X Men, you know, stories had some editorial interest. But here's the similarities between the three books, though. Paul Levitz is writing the Legion the whole time. Wolfman's writing new Teen Titans the whole time, and Chris Claremont keeps writing X Men the whole time. And I think Louise Simonson wrote X Factor the whole time too. Right. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Inc. [00:25:40] Speaker A: And so I think Louise Simonson did and definitely was writing Power Pack, but that's a different discussion. Yeah, that's back to a Travis discussion. [00:25:49] Speaker B: So. [00:25:51] Speaker A: But, you know, you think about it too. You have books with consistent writing, some creative team differences with the art happen during the times, but consistent writing, consistent fan bases. And two fade away. And one is the X Men keeps moving forward. And this whole notion of going direct sales. We talked about this on the podcast before a little bit, but I wanted to spend a little bit of time here with this because we're now getting an interaction where that direct sale universe really runs afoul of their universe. Right. Like you could. This is where you could really, especially with the strategy of the reprints, sort of mess up the whole thing. Now, the other thing with this whole thing is, so it wouldn't impact this, but when I was a kid, I ran out of reprints. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Didn'T have anything to read. [00:26:54] Speaker A: All right. And then I had to convince my dad to go buy books at the comic shop. [00:26:59] Speaker B: Right. [00:27:00] Speaker A: But then I had a gap of stuff. [00:27:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And you're like, oh, and you got to pick up new books, different books. [00:27:08] Speaker A: Right. And some of my favorite Legion books came out in that gap, period. And also I actually did get it, but one of the reprint. The last two reprint books, I didn't get off the stand. Oh, I think there were two more after this. There were two more, I think it went. And it was where they kicked Starboy out of Legion, my favorite character. So Maybe it's good I didn't get that book right away. [00:27:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait till later. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Or they wrote him out as a character for a while. And so anyway, a lot going on, a lot there and I should focus on this book. But I do. This is a history podcast too. If you're new to listening to us. We talk about this stuff. It is interesting. This is probably a little bit calmer than our talk about Dark Knight Returns a couple episode ago, but this is, I mean it definitely was a business decision to do this direct sales only. And it was a little bit confusing the other thing too for the first year. And that's how Dan Jurgens got into it. For the first year before they did reprints, they did two stories a month. So they had one news story for the newsstand and one news story for the direct sale book. And then after 12 months it went to reprints for both Teen Titans New Teen Titans and for Legion and for the Outsiders as well. I believe I got the same treatment. When you're. I don't know if the Outsiders ever went into the reprints though. I'd have to have somebody confirm it. I think Tales, Tales of the Outsiders went to reprints, but I'm not 100% sure because I wasn't collecting that book. What I will say here is that it's an interesting strategy, right? You know, it's an interesting strategy to pull a couple top selling books off the, off the shelf. Well, now we're using those top selling book to promote this book that's on the newsstand. [00:28:58] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:59] Speaker A: That's not necessarily selling. So that's what I now is a long way for me to get there. But if you were running the comic book company, Greg, would you try to put something like Booster on the direct sale only and make it a little bit edgier like the independent books like a John Sable or American Flag. That's hot. Okay. Or would you make your books that people are grabbing off the newsstand every month direct sale and take them away. Now you do get a year of double sales potentially for the people that are going to go to the comic shop and still buy the, the, the two stories a month thing. [00:29:44] Speaker B: I, I think I would probably try to keep it so that people are going to want to grab it off the newsstand. You're going to have those readers that are, that are looking for books that they're going to grab and, and read and they're going to be those consistent. They're either going to be those consistent readers that are just hungry to read those stories, or they're going to be those passive consumers that are walking by and seeing something that they know with something paired that they haven't seen before and say, oh, what's that? I know these characters, so let's check that out. Or an interesting cover or something like that. So I think trying to push this into. Into a direct. Only, yeah, you get the double dip, but I think you lose some of those kids or some of those adults that would buy the book at the newsstand or bookstore or whatever, you know, wherever. Wherever they're seeing it at on the spinner rack and stuff like that. So it's. It's a tough. It's a tough choice. But I think inherently you're. You're looking at two different audiences, and you need to. You need to have stuff for both audiences. I think, personally, I had a parent. [00:31:11] Speaker A: That was willing to drive me, what, 20 minutes each way, 20, 25 minutes each way to go buy a single book each month. [00:31:21] Speaker B: And that's the luxury that a lot of people don't always necessarily get. I mean, my parents worked weird shifts, and my. For a long time, my. My comics were, okay, nobody's home. I'm gonna jump on my bike and ride down to 7:11. [00:31:39] Speaker A: So that's what I did, too. [00:31:40] Speaker B: And. And yeah, and that was a majority of, like, elementary through junior high to high school, you know. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Yep. So 711 on 1 52nd meridian and probably even there anymore. [00:31:53] Speaker B: And not even this say. It's definitely not a safe drive. Not a safe ride on a bike. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Well, not now. Even then. Probably wasn't the safest ride. Yeah. [00:32:02] Speaker B: That hill, like the dread. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:32:06] Speaker B: Depending on which way you went, it. [00:32:08] Speaker A: Was not a good ride. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Every way was dangerous, and you got cars and stuff like that. Roads were. The roads were not what they are today. And, you know, just bad. [00:32:18] Speaker A: Wasn't a lot of. Well, 1 52nd at least as you got closer, Meridian had that large shoulder. Yeah. [00:32:24] Speaker B: But still, I mean, you got people just whipping down in their pickup trucks and stuff like that. And, you know, I got hit with cans a lot because people see the fat kids. I'm just a giant target. [00:32:37] Speaker A: So one. I. I remember. I remember riding my bike all the way to Parkland. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That's a ride. I did it once. [00:32:47] Speaker A: Or we span away. [00:32:48] Speaker B: Span. [00:32:48] Speaker A: There's a card shop there we wanted to go to, and so we rode all the way there. Yeah, I mean, it's just. I mean, it was different. Different time. Also. There were less cars then. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:59] Speaker A: I Mean, it wasn't as busy up there now it'd be insane to try to do that in that traffic. Crazy. Yeah. A different world. And I think, you know, if you're trying to the industry, this book, I think the booster book's still a kid friendly book even though it does have adult themes. So, you know, the kind of question. So we, we talked about what we would do with Legion and Teen Titans. Right. And we said newsstand. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:24] Speaker A: Now with this book, with this, would you have taken the kids stuff out of it and made it an edgier book and made it direct sales only? Watchmen's about to come out. Dark Knight Returns comes out, Booster runs. [00:33:41] Speaker B: That line of being goofy enough to dance on a, on a wire, just, just enough to keep a kid's imagination because it's, it's, it's goofy and funny enough, but it doesn't, and the, and the adult themes that are in there are theme, like they're themes. They don't ever really go the distance on anything. Right. It's just if you're a kid reading it. [00:34:11] Speaker A: Well, they could have though, is what I'm saying. I know because we're going to have Green Arrow soon after this too. Right. [00:34:17] Speaker B: And, but I'm saying they glaze over a lot of that stuff. And having a book like that, that is that bridge, that, that, that like the COVID of the book, it has a giant bridge. This book is that bridge for those, those like teenagers or those, those middle schoolers that are like, well, what else is out there? And then they're like, oh, okay, there's something else. There's, there's other books that are a little edgier and stuff. This is that bridge book. But I mean, to your point, yeah. You could drop all that, all the hokiness, cut back on, you know, some of the, some of the, the, the, the kid style humor in there. Punch it up a little bit more, make it a little more adult in a sense and have a very different Booster Gold that has a little more bite to it and gets that adult audience. But at that point you're, you have to really think about will adults want this kind of guy, this kind of will. Are they going to want this kind of hero? [00:35:36] Speaker A: Well, it doesn't have to be adults. It could be like, you know, 16 plus. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:40] Speaker A: Kind of audience. Yeah, but I mean like young adults, I guess. [00:35:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Young adults. [00:35:47] Speaker A: College. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Young, young and new, we call them young and new adults. New adults like newly out of high school, just starting, starting life and they're still reading comic books and they're, they're like, oh, yeah, no, you'd have to really. I mean, there is, there's a lot of ground with Booster as he is in that he's, he's, he's a young adult making bad decisions. So you, you get him into those situations and really humanize him. I mean, right now he, he's a character. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Right? [00:36:15] Speaker B: He's a, he's a character. Character of a character that you can, you can associate with in a sense because you're like, oh, I know other characters in other books that are like this. He's pulling from all these things. But you step him up a little bit and you give him a little bit more onus, more ownership over his actual self and put that type of development into that character and then people can recognize those things about that character. And yeah, you have, I assume he's. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Like a 22, 23 year old though, right? [00:36:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's. [00:36:57] Speaker A: But you don't get that feel a lot of the time. [00:36:59] Speaker B: You don't. Because he's trying to play a boulder. He, he, he's, he's trying to, he is trying to emulate the heroes that he's, he's read about and everything else. And he knows of all their great feats and he sees them as these fantastic things that are bigger than life. So he's trying to be bigger than life himself. And by doing that, he's, he's putting on this facade to be Booster Gold. But he's still Michael. He's still that goofy 22 year old kid that, that screwed up his life and had to steal a time machine and go back in time to steal, to steal people's super staves. [00:37:44] Speaker A: Right. [00:37:44] Speaker B: You know. [00:37:45] Speaker A: Well, and, and before we, before we jump in back into the book, Dan Jurgens always seemed to want to recover Booster and make him a superhero. Right. So Dan Jurgens in the Death of Superman storyline had just taken over Justice League as well and put Booster right back in and kept trying to build his credibility back up. [00:38:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:06] Speaker A: After, after it, after the hit it took under the, under The Giffen and DeMattis Justice League. [00:38:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:13] Speaker A: And, and here, let's see what happens. I think he's going to try to tell a story to do that here. And we start with Booster Gold crashing a time bubble. [00:38:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Or a time machine. Yeah. It's not a time bubble. Time bubble's a little bit different. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a time machine that's, it's shaped like a ball. It's A time sphere. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah, Sphere. It's a time sphere. [00:38:36] Speaker B: It's a time sphere. [00:38:37] Speaker A: This one's sort of more like. This one's sort of more like the. This one's sort of more like the Rip Hunter type. Yeah. Piece than, Than the Legion time bubble, which is a little bit different, which. [00:38:51] Speaker B: Is in a second, but when you got, when you got Booster Gold inside it, it's more like a rip torn time bubble. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. So we're kind of thinking about that, and we do get. We get a little bit more of the origin, so we. Booster's talking a lot to Skeets or himself. I'm not really sure which one. [00:39:14] Speaker B: I think Skeets is still deactivated. Oh, no. Skeets is. Skeets is activated. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Skeets is flying out of the. Of the, of the, of the ship of the time ship, I call it. Yeah. And Booster puts on his power armor. He's putting on his flight ring. He's getting excited. He's looking out at Metropolis and he says, imagine taking a giant step from one world to another. A step of 500 years. Civilization is yet to be destroyed and eventually rebuilt by generations yet to be born. The terrifying 21st century is. And then we get an editor's note. The terrifying 21st century is chronicled every month in Hex. That'd be Jonah Hex. Oh, hey, you want to read about that? [00:39:55] Speaker B: That's a great movie. [00:40:00] Speaker A: I saw it in the Drive in. Yeah. Did you? [00:40:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. It was a double feature, so I had to stay. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Was it like a double feature? What was the other feature? [00:40:12] Speaker B: Transformers. [00:40:15] Speaker A: Oh, God. You watched Hex and Transformers in one sitting. I did. [00:40:23] Speaker B: That. The preview. [00:40:25] Speaker A: That is a terrible night. [00:40:27] Speaker B: It was great. And the preview broke down. It was terrible. [00:40:32] Speaker A: God, why? What kind of suffering. [00:40:38] Speaker B: You were on the other side of the country and. [00:40:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm just saying, like, you, You. Oh, God. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Did it to myself. I know. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Awful. [00:40:50] Speaker B: I know. [00:40:52] Speaker A: I probably would have done the same. [00:40:55] Speaker B: It was, it was a fun night anyways. Yeah. You could, you could get all this in, in Hex. [00:41:01] Speaker A: At least, at least, at least it was. Jonah Hex was only an hour and 20 minute 1 minutes long. So there's, There is that. [00:41:08] Speaker B: That's true. That's true. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we can't. I don't know if I've watched it. [00:41:19] Speaker B: I mean, you should, just for the fact. I mean, it's. It, I, I, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Was it set in the future or in the Old West? [00:41:36] Speaker B: It was. It was Old West. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I think if it was with the future Jenna Hex, I probably would have watched it. [00:41:43] Speaker B: It was. [00:41:44] Speaker A: Oh, Josh Brolin was doing a hack. [00:41:45] Speaker B: Yeah, Josh Brolin. [00:41:46] Speaker A: I mean, it was. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Got Josh Brolin. And it's. I mean, he plays all the. He plays all the. [00:41:51] Speaker A: Oh, I've seen. I've seen it. Because John Malkovich is in it, too. Yeah, I've definitely seen it. It left a grand impression that I forgot that I watched. [00:41:59] Speaker B: It's got a great cast. It's like my. My friends were all about. Like, that I went with. Were all about seeing Jonah Hex and I was all about seeing Transformers. [00:42:09] Speaker A: I think, like, when you think about that. And we'll. We'll turn the page here on. On Booster's integration into Metropolis. And he's just flying. Skeets is you lecturing him everywhere he goes. And let's hope that this story doesn't end up like the early DC movies, where they had amazing stars that all went to Marvel Universe and then were amazing because the movies scripts were better. Right, Green Lantern. [00:42:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:44] Speaker A: Why? Why? Why? [00:42:49] Speaker B: Hot Wheels. [00:42:51] Speaker A: Booster meets a lady and she asks him if he's made by IBM. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Oh, what a reference. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Booster is really excitedly just walking around the city everywhere. He goes and gets some ice cream. Tries to. He's walking around in his onesie and doesn't know what cars are. [00:43:16] Speaker B: What's that? Big metal behemoth. [00:43:21] Speaker A: He has a pimp try to steal his suit. It's. It's very exciting. A very stereotypical pimp, by the way. [00:43:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:34] Speaker A: And. And he wanders into a hotel and he books a hotel room and leaves his card at the front desk on accident. Some. Mr. Alvarez's card. And then Skeets ends up talking to the desk people. So anyway, they get a hotel room. And so I guess that's what you do when you get to the 20th century. Yeah. Or the. When you go back 500 years, very first thing to do is take a stolen credit card and get a hotel room. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Admit fraud. [00:44:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, well, he's already stolen a bunch of stuff and ain't come back in the future. And. And he gets in another fight with Skeets, and Skeets is like, explaining stuff to him. And Booster's like, don't make me deactivate you. Don't be a smart ass. Yeah, yeah. And there we go. And then. All right, that's a lot of. That's a lot of we. There's a lot of pages of buildup. [00:44:40] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:41] Speaker A: And there's no Legion yet. [00:44:43] Speaker B: Not yet. [00:44:45] Speaker A: So I've spent my hard earned 75 cents on the newsstand, man. I mean, you're getting Legion on the. [00:44:52] Speaker B: COVID You're getting there. You're getting there. [00:44:57] Speaker A: And because I saw the Legion on. [00:44:59] Speaker B: The COVID Hey, hey. Just like our podcast, we're going to talk about a comic, and then you got 15 to 20 minutes of. Of non comic talk. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Well, that's maybe why I started out the podcast this way, to emulate my disappointment as a kid reading this book, because I had not read any other Booster Gold books. [00:45:17] Speaker B: And you saw Legion and you're like, yes, I want this. [00:45:20] Speaker A: And I. And I also get half of an origin, right? [00:45:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:45:26] Speaker A: So, like, the start of the book is half of the origin. [00:45:29] Speaker B: It's only half. [00:45:31] Speaker A: It's like in the last book or two books ago, they explained the first half the origin, and then I get half the origin, and here I am. So they're using the Legion to get people to buy the book. Right. And then I'm like, what, the old bait and switch. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Dan. Dan. [00:45:45] Speaker A: I can certainly tell you that. I can certainly tell you that these two stories did not get me good to go. Get me to go buy more Booster. [00:45:52] Speaker B: You didn't go back and get the rest of the run? [00:45:54] Speaker A: No. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:45:56] Speaker A: I don't even think I knew how to do that at this point. [00:45:59] Speaker B: It was like, how do I get. If I wanted more, how do I get more? [00:46:03] Speaker A: I don't care. Yeah, well, I mean, I was. Yeah, I mean, I figured out later, like a. I figured out like, what, a year later to get my dad to take me to the comic? To o'? Leary's. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Yeah. So you get looked at. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Did I even. Did I even know a existed at this point? Maybe. Maybe. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Might have. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Might have been there once at this point. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:28] Speaker A: But, yeah, I mean, I certainly didn't know the greatness of all the things and. Yeah, well, anyway, Meanwhile, an underground complex deep below Centennial Park, Old Diamond Face is back. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Oh, Cobra Commander. [00:46:47] Speaker A: And we're still in the past of the future. Past. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Future path, man. [00:46:51] Speaker A: We're still in the past of the future. Past. Like, this episode is the future of the past. Bit comes out in the future and past all at the same time. [00:46:59] Speaker B: That's how it goes. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Old Diamond Face, Diamond Director. [00:47:04] Speaker B: Diamond Director. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Cobra Commander. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Well, he's working his Ponzi scheme, Dan. He's trying to get. He's. He's like, well, I got this idea, see? [00:47:14] Speaker A: Diamond Director, Senator. What do we call this guy? [00:47:16] Speaker B: He's we don't know he's a senator yet. [00:47:19] Speaker A: Yeah, we do. [00:47:20] Speaker B: No, we don't. Oh, we do. I guess. No, we don't. [00:47:22] Speaker A: We don't. I think we do. No, we don't. [00:47:24] Speaker B: We don't know yet. [00:47:25] Speaker A: He. Oh, we don't know yet. [00:47:27] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:47:27] Speaker A: We don't know yet. [00:47:29] Speaker B: Dan's spilling the beans. [00:47:30] Speaker A: He got pooped, everybody. Oh, you know, Dan booped himself off the bed. Yeah, I booped like this. Did you boop? [00:47:39] Speaker B: No. You booped yourself. [00:47:41] Speaker A: You wish you could boop right now. I. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Maybe I do. Maybe that's why I can't get so excited, because I know that I can't boop. [00:47:49] Speaker A: You need to take a big boob. [00:47:52] Speaker B: Everybody needs to take a big boop. [00:47:55] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we flipped a page, and we find out that we need the Chiller. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Oh, the Chiller. He's a. He's a gold Chiller. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Not. No blackguard this time. No Mind Dancer. Mind Dancer? I almost said Mind Bender because you started getting me thinking about GI Joe again. [00:48:17] Speaker B: Well, I mean, he's got a dude that looks like the guy next to him. Looks like one of the regular old Cobra dudes. [00:48:25] Speaker A: Well, that's what he has. The. These are part of the 1,000. They're just not special. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah, he's just a regular old Cobra guy. He's just like, you know the kind you gotta buy, like, 20 of them to make your army look good. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair. And that's. That's what he does. He's got. Just standing around. [00:48:39] Speaker B: I know. As I'm going through my dreams, ask him, why do I got so many of these. These old regular Cobra guys? I'm like, because I gotta make my army look good. [00:48:47] Speaker A: I mean, well, and these guys, their. Their Cobra outfits are, like, orange on green on green, so it's a bold coloring choice. [00:48:56] Speaker B: It is pretty cool. It's like, you know, I like it. It's. It's. It's very. Very bright, very festive for. Well, like, I don't know, like a. A fall. A fall festival. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Fall. But a fall festival. Well, Director Commander lays out his plan for us. You see, tomorrow, the Chiller needs to abduct the President and the Vice President. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:26] Speaker A: From the Metro Bridge dedication. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Ah. [00:49:29] Speaker A: That's why there's a bridge on the COVID I see. Assassinate both men. [00:49:36] Speaker B: Oh. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Leave only George Bush's body to be found and assume the shape of Ronald Reagan. Because apparently this guy with a suction cup on his head. And magically becomes shaped like. [00:50:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what The Chiller does. [00:50:02] Speaker A: Reagan. [00:50:02] Speaker B: The Chiller is going to chill as Ronald Reagan is. [00:50:05] Speaker A: Double arm is the Chiller. This is like the worst version. This, this is like the worst version of Mysterio ever. Is that like what Mysterio looks like under the helmet? Maybe, maybe if you take it off and then. [00:50:24] Speaker B: Could be. Yeah, well, we. [00:50:28] Speaker A: We flipped the page and the Chiller lets us also know that he has acid powers. [00:50:37] Speaker B: He's got acid hands. Don't touch him. He's like a batter. [00:50:40] Speaker A: Like murders. He murders the random foot soldier. [00:50:44] Speaker B: He just like, he does a. Get over here to him and like acid faces him. It's. [00:50:53] Speaker A: It's pretty Mortal Kombaty and COBRA Director Commander 1000. You fool. Why would you do such a thing? Acid Chiller. Your acids have no place here. You shouldn't have done that. He was a good man. He has children. Evil terrorist organization. And Chiller's like he was a chump. And then. Sorry, my bad. That maniac, it's beneath me. Ah, here it is. Black Lightning reference again. [00:51:30] Speaker B: I told you. Yeah. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Even though Black lightning destroyed the 100 a few years ago, I have rebuilt the remnants of the organization into a new high tech reference criminal juggernaut. The 1000. Or the 1000, we'll call it Amazon. I mean, no longer are we a mere collection of hoods obsessed with petty crime, drug pushing and murder. Our power now equals that of any criminal organization on Earth. [00:51:58] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Apparently you could get the Black Lightning. Oh, no. Allen of the Archives. Yeah, I see Black Lightning references. Not obscure because Black Lightning is in the Outsiders, but obscure because where are you going to get the 1970s Black Lightning books at this time? [00:52:16] Speaker B: True. [00:52:18] Speaker A: So you would definitely need the editorial help. Yes. Anyway, and once I, Senator Henry Ballard and President of the United States, I will have no equal. Sorry I spoiled it. We're murdering because Henry Ballard is going to get to become Vice president. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah. All the power we know. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Reagan will disappear and then he'll be president. Yeah. And honestly, he. He might do a better job than certain presidents. [00:52:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:52:50] Speaker A: I mean, at least he knows how to run an organization effectively. [00:52:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he could. [00:52:55] Speaker A: And honestly, all these guys kind of look like Trump's cabinet that we've seen so far. [00:53:01] Speaker B: They kind of do. [00:53:02] Speaker A: Like the Chiller Blackguard. [00:53:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:06] Speaker A: Mind dancer. Yeah, A mind dancer is all over the Cabinet, shooting dogs, you know, like it's just. [00:53:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:15] Speaker A: Happening everywhere. [00:53:16] Speaker B: It's just bad stuff. [00:53:19] Speaker A: Well, anyway, now elsewhere. [00:53:22] Speaker B: Elsewhere. [00:53:23] Speaker A: You know. You know what's interesting to you? A Jurgen's panel work is usually really great. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:31] Speaker A: And he usually like segments the story and doesn't run them over like this. I don't know that I like this panel work where the segments of the story keep running onto the next page. [00:53:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:44] Speaker A: It's just. I mean, but it's kind of cool in a way, too, because now Senator Ballard's looking, like, out. And they're there in the park. Pop up the Legion. [00:53:57] Speaker B: Boom. Hey, Dan. [00:53:59] Speaker A: The Legion have a much better landing. [00:54:01] Speaker B: Dan, step away for a minute. [00:54:04] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:54:05] Speaker B: Well, as I told you, we're nearing towards five o' clock and. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Yeah, well, so you're going to have to continue on without me for, oh, five minutes. [00:54:15] Speaker A: Greg has to boop. [00:54:16] Speaker B: I have to boop. [00:54:16] Speaker A: That's what he's telling you. [00:54:17] Speaker B: He has to. No, I don't have to boop. I have to look at the door. [00:54:22] Speaker A: Greg has to boop. [00:54:25] Speaker B: I'll be right back. Continue on. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Carry on. All right. Greg has booped. [00:54:32] Speaker B: I pooped. [00:54:35] Speaker A: We're back. [00:54:36] Speaker B: It's my dogs. As soon as they start hearing people in the. In the. The cul de sac, they just won't stop. So you gotta go open the door for them. And then they like, oh, okay. The delivery is here. [00:54:49] Speaker A: Well, the Legion have appeared. [00:54:50] Speaker B: They have appeared. [00:54:52] Speaker A: And they put their time bubble away. They're, like, super dirty. [00:54:56] Speaker B: Did they land in. Oh, they landed in a swamp. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I find it interesting. This book came out in 1986. Yeah, but they say they landed in August 20, 1985. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Oh. [00:55:09] Speaker A: Oh. It's the past. [00:55:10] Speaker B: It's the past. Dan is the past. [00:55:12] Speaker A: We're still in the past. [00:55:13] Speaker B: It's a time travel book. Damn. [00:55:16] Speaker A: We are still in the past. Sorry. We're at Booster Gold's first appearance, his. [00:55:19] Speaker B: First appearance in the past when he just got there. Hey, everybody, I'm Booster Gold. Look at me. I got stories to be told. Stories here and stories there. I go around in my underwear. I'm Booster Gold and I'm doing my thing. I stole this goddamn Legion flight ring. Look at me as I fly through the sky and everybody knows I'm Booster Guy. No, I'm Booster Gold. [00:55:43] Speaker A: The Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling. We're all champions in the ring. We come from the streets. We come from the city. We. That's what you were doing, right? [00:55:52] Speaker B: I know, but I was. [00:55:52] Speaker A: I. [00:55:53] Speaker B: But, but, but the difference was that was just like, you know, out of my brain. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Well, that's. I mean, I'm sure they just did it out of their brain when they cut their promos. [00:56:02] Speaker B: You Think so. [00:56:03] Speaker A: You sounded like you were the manager of them. Right? One of them. [00:56:06] Speaker B: I could. [00:56:06] Speaker A: You could have been the manager. [00:56:08] Speaker B: I could have been Booster's manager. Better than dirt Jerk. [00:56:12] Speaker A: You could have been the manager. Booster could have been the manager of Hollywood in Vine. [00:56:15] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. She could have been what? Anyway, doing with his life. Booster, we get. [00:56:21] Speaker A: We should. I don't know. But the Legion is here and we're supposed to be focusing on the Legion. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Yes, yes. The Legion is here. They're in a store. [00:56:30] Speaker A: They put their time bubble away. [00:56:31] Speaker B: They put their time. Their time bubble did not get crashed up, bashed up, smashed up and messed up. [00:56:37] Speaker A: Not like because they know what they're doing. They do. [00:56:40] Speaker B: Well, do they? I mean, was their first time flying in a time bubble? [00:56:45] Speaker A: Well, yeah. And so it is not their first time. No. But also like they. They dress up in the most ridiculous disguises ever. [00:56:56] Speaker B: Oh, you got the rhinestone Cowboy. A dude who wants to get you to buy insurance. [00:57:01] Speaker A: I was going to say the Midnight Cowboy. [00:57:02] Speaker B: Oh, the Midnight Cow. [00:57:03] Speaker A: He's the. [00:57:03] Speaker B: He is the Midnight. [00:57:05] Speaker A: They are in. They are in New York, right? Yeah, he's. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a Midnight Cowboy. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Or is he the drugstore Cowboy? [00:57:10] Speaker B: No, he's more the Midnight Cowboy. [00:57:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And so we've got like one guy in Chameleon Boy. Looks like a business person. [00:57:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:24] Speaker A: They dress up Ultra Boy like a cowboy. And Brainiac 5 just looks like a guy. [00:57:30] Speaker B: He looks like a guy. [00:57:32] Speaker A: Collar turned up. Of course. [00:57:33] Speaker B: Of course. That makes them 10 points clear. [00:57:37] Speaker A: You'd think they would have made. They're really smart. Brainiac 5. Like the smartest person in the whole future. You would have think they would have. And. And Chameleon Boy is the head of the Legion espionage squad. Ultra Boy is the head of nothing. The. You'd think that they would have come up with costumes that like, like link together in some way or like looked like a common, like theme thematic. [00:58:06] Speaker B: You know what they really are missing out of all this? They're missing two extra members. They could have been a boy band. I mean they could have. They could have had two extra members, been five dudes walking around town just singing whatever. And. And they could have. [00:58:25] Speaker A: I mean, they could have been. [00:58:26] Speaker B: I guess it would have been awesome. Think about that. And they could have called themselves the Legion at that time and people would have been, oh my gosh, it's the Legion. I want to buy that hit album, the Legion, self titled by mxpx. No, the Legion self titled. And then they're like, what's that. What's that song that they're doing? And then their first song is MCPX. [00:58:51] Speaker A: Well, they walk by a sign that says, welcome to Metropolis, Mr. President, with Ronald Reagan. Oh, hey now. Yeah. Do you want me not to take this podcast dark? I assume you don't. [00:59:05] Speaker B: So, I mean, it's been one of. Actually, it's been a pretty good podcast thus far. [00:59:10] Speaker A: I know it's been very. You know what? I'll take it dark next issue. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Okay, so he'll take it dark next issue, people. We're gonna keep it. We're gonna keep it light, keep it boopy. [00:59:21] Speaker A: Well, on the morning of August 21st. [00:59:24] Speaker B: Yes. [00:59:25] Speaker A: The assassination plan, it does not get so light. Chiller takes a knife and murders a Secret Service person. [00:59:32] Speaker B: Straight up. Shield him. [00:59:34] Speaker A: Then he takes his suction cup off. [00:59:36] Speaker B: Huh. [00:59:38] Speaker A: And he chills himself. Yeah. To look like the security guard. Now, I don't know what he does with the rest of his costume, because we don't get there. [00:59:47] Speaker B: He tells it to chill. [00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got. Apparently he can, like, move his skin around, change its color, and then use a freezing compound. Yeah, that's the. Oh, he's chill. [01:00:01] Speaker B: He's chill. [01:00:03] Speaker A: You know these villains. Yeah, and their names. [01:00:06] Speaker B: Oh, I know. [01:00:07] Speaker A: The Chiller. [01:00:08] Speaker B: The Chiller. [01:00:09] Speaker A: The Twister. [01:00:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:10] Speaker A: Is there a black garter? The Mind Dancer. [01:00:14] Speaker B: The black garter. You wear him around your leg. [01:00:18] Speaker A: The black garter. The Black guard garter. The black garter. No, he stands there guarding. [01:00:24] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it was a black garter that you wore around your leg. [01:00:27] Speaker A: No, black garter. That's on the killer's leg. [01:00:30] Speaker B: You wore the. You wore the garter around your. Your. Your bicep. For luck. [01:00:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And what is with all of these characters and having no hair and stuff? Right. Like Mind Dancer and. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Well, that's how you know a bad guy's a bad guy. Dan, they don't have any hair. Most people that don't have that hair back. [01:00:50] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we go to the Hotel Barclay. [01:00:55] Speaker B: That's where everything good happens. [01:00:58] Speaker A: Well, yeah, apparently. Except you get lost in the holodeck. [01:01:03] Speaker B: Oh, no. At the Hotel Barclay. [01:01:06] Speaker A: Oh, that was in the future. [01:01:07] Speaker B: In the future. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe he wouldn't have stated and. Well, anyway, Booster's having fun making his costume for the first time, putting it together, and he takes it out for a field test, raised collar and all. Yeah, I noticed. I don't see a cape. [01:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got. He's capeless right now. [01:01:30] Speaker A: At what point did they add the cape? [01:01:32] Speaker B: You know, maybe he was seeing all the other superheroes with capes and he's like, man, you know what I need? I need a cape. I should have a cape and all the rest. [01:01:43] Speaker A: Well, we get more of the origin story. Skeets is like, hey, Booster, use some of your powers, buddy. Let's see how they do. [01:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:50] Speaker A: And he uses some blasters into the force field. He finds a giant square of rock and lifts it up somewhere. So strong. Yeah. He's. The goggles have infrared capabilities. [01:02:06] Speaker B: Oh, that's cool. [01:02:08] Speaker A: That's why you have enlargement lenses. They have enlargement lenses. [01:02:12] Speaker B: Nice. [01:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah. If you aim them at certain. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Things. Well. [01:02:18] Speaker A: And then enlarged. [01:02:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Like letters on a. [01:02:22] Speaker A: He can read the fine print on a sign. Like letters on a sign. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [01:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:27] Speaker B: Enlarge. [01:02:30] Speaker A: He's got some super strength going on. He's got. He can absorb energy and eject it. We found that out. I don't remember all these Booster powers. Pretty much the only powers I ever remember him using are flight, the force field and, like, the. The rays. [01:02:49] Speaker B: He's got a lot. So he's. He's, like, got a lot of powers. We just haven't seen them all yet. He's. [01:02:55] Speaker A: Well, I meant in the future stories, not in the past stories. [01:02:58] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe there's. [01:02:59] Speaker A: Well, they're all future stories from here. [01:03:01] Speaker B: Well, there's. There's a time. Maybe it's just a time and a place. He just hasn't had an opportunity to use them yet. Maybe somebody needs to get on it. Somebody needs to tell those stories with Booster using all these powers. [01:03:14] Speaker A: Well, the Legion thinks we get to the Metro Bridge, and Legion thinks that. That. That Michael Carter is going to kill the president. [01:03:24] Speaker B: Michael Carter. [01:03:25] Speaker A: Or try to. So they're staying alert. They're looking around. We've got Brainiac 5 and the Midnight Cowboy walking around. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:34] Speaker A: And we, Flash and lo and behold, the Chiller is hanging out right next to Uncle Ronnie. [01:03:41] Speaker B: Uncle Ronnie. [01:03:43] Speaker A: And Uncle Ronnie's giving a speech, and he's saying, in addition, we must take all necessary measures to safeguard the gay population. I mean. Sorry. To safeguard the innocent people of the world. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think Uncle Ronnie was thinking that, because he's not that. [01:04:01] Speaker A: No, I changed it back to the actual dialogue. [01:04:04] Speaker B: I was gonna say, though, I don't think Uncle Ronnie was that caring of a guy. [01:04:09] Speaker A: And so. Yeah, actors is president, you know. [01:04:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:04:15] Speaker A: It works out. It all. It always works out. [01:04:18] Speaker B: Always. [01:04:18] Speaker A: It works out 100%. Yeah. It's been Fantastic. Maybe as a governator, too. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it could be good. Could be good. I mean, Jesse Bot Adventure is a pretty good governor. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Was he? [01:04:36] Speaker B: I, I. [01:04:39] Speaker A: Was. He. I mean, he was a governor. [01:04:42] Speaker B: He was a governor. I wasn't. [01:04:44] Speaker A: He was one of the only independent governors in the history, our modern history of politics. [01:04:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:50] Speaker A: So, I mean, did not run with a party affiliation. He did have some epic advertising. [01:04:55] Speaker B: And instead of letting the, the state, instead of letting the state shut down, he made everybody come to that. Come. Come to his house and he threw a pizza party so they could finalize the books on the year that was. [01:05:08] Speaker A: You know, he had commercials where he was naked. [01:05:10] Speaker B: Well, I mean, but he, but in all honesty, he was like, all right, no, we're not, we're. We're not going to finish out the year without getting things done. We're going to do it and we're. I will. We're going to, we're going to go and we're going to do this and we're going to. [01:05:26] Speaker A: Yeah. He basically said, you have to stay at my house and eat Little Caesars until you solve the problem. And everybody was so horrified by eating Little Caesars perpetually that they passed a new budget. [01:05:38] Speaker B: Hey, you know, whatever it takes. [01:05:41] Speaker A: How many companies will Dan be sued by during this podcast? [01:05:46] Speaker B: Well, anyway, if it wasn't for my gluten intolerance, I'd be eating Little Caesars because you know for a fact Little Caesars was right across the street from the college we went to. [01:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah. You know why you'd be eating Little Caesars? Because you're cheap as fuck. [01:06:00] Speaker B: Oh, man, Dan, hot and ready. [01:06:03] Speaker A: You take your shitty camera and go to Little Caesars and munch away. [01:06:07] Speaker B: Well, you know, I mean, that's, that's fine. That's fine. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure somebody would want to watch me eat Little Caesars of shitty camera. [01:06:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure there's some. I'm sure there's some only fans communities for that. Like, you could hook it up. [01:06:28] Speaker B: I make so much money just me eating little. [01:06:31] Speaker A: Children's author Greg Smith eating. [01:06:34] Speaker B: Just make it like just ordering like hot and ready pizzas and just like pulling off all the toppings and just eating the toppings because he can't eat the, the actual pizza. [01:06:44] Speaker A: You know, if they gave him Little Caesars in dodgeball, Globo gym would still exist. [01:06:50] Speaker B: Oh, there you go. True. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Because he wouldn't have had to like, resist. It just would have been just, I gotta eat it. [01:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I Had. [01:07:00] Speaker A: I had a vegan. Vegan? No vegetarian. Vegan. Because there's cheese. [01:07:04] Speaker B: What? [01:07:05] Speaker A: No, there's no vegan. But would eat Little Caesars without meat on it. I thought the whole idea of being vegetarian was to be like healthy. [01:07:16] Speaker B: I think sometimes just to there it's to not eat the flesh of the animals. [01:07:24] Speaker A: Oh yeah. I'm so ignorant. I. I am so ignorant. [01:07:29] Speaker B: I don't partake in the flesh of the animals. [01:07:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I. [01:07:35] Speaker B: But then eating the byproduct of an animal, the milk, the dairy. I don't know. There's a. There's a fine line to be danced on. [01:07:47] Speaker A: I'm so ignorant. I walked in, I walked into. We went this weekend. [01:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:54] Speaker A: To the Krampus, but it wasn't your Krampus. [01:07:57] Speaker B: Oh, it's a different. The, the other camp. Yeah. Well, I mean they're all related. They're all crampey. [01:08:01] Speaker A: But it was on, On. On South Tacoma way. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Uh huh. [01:08:06] Speaker A: And so we were, we were hanging out there and I. We were thinking about getting a. I saw Eli Wolf. [01:08:17] Speaker B: Oh yeah, he was there. I saw. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Who talked to me for a minute. He doesn't know who I am unless I remind him that I'm your friend. And then he knows. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [01:08:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So we talked for a little bit. I gave him a new sticker with the new QR code. [01:08:29] Speaker B: Cool. [01:08:31] Speaker A: So he's got. He's can officially find us. [01:08:34] Speaker B: Hey, the new sticker. [01:08:36] Speaker A: You too can scan that QR code. You can find us. But you've already found us. [01:08:40] Speaker B: You've already found us. Tell a friend. [01:08:42] Speaker A: And. And I am so ignorant. So for those of you that are unaware, I am a gay man. What? What? [01:08:54] Speaker B: I didn't know. So I haven't known. [01:08:57] Speaker A: We're heading down south to come. We were, we were heading down south to come away and there was this place called the Opal Lounge. And I was like, oh, that looks cool. There's a big rainbow flag on there. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Oh. [01:09:07] Speaker A: And the person I was with and I walked in and I like, I. I go. And probably loudly because I'm me. I'm like, oh, this is an awesome lesbian bar. Huh? And the person with me looks at me and goes, queer bar. [01:09:25] Speaker B: Oh. [01:09:26] Speaker A: And I said. And I look around and I go, oh, well it's still cool. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Oh Dan, the faux pas that you do. [01:09:41] Speaker A: I know. Like I'm. I'm an idiot. Not paying attention to my space. But anyway, I look in and I'm. And we actually had this. I. This place was really great. I had this Amazing drink. And I had this, like, they make this homemade pimento cheese with crackers. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it was delicious. Anyway, highly recommend if you're visiting. There. We were down by the airport. Is it the Airport Lounge or is it the Airport Bar? [01:10:13] Speaker B: Airport Tavern. [01:10:13] Speaker A: The Airport Bar, Right. Airport Tavern. There we go. And what's the one where Krampus was? It's right across the street from the Airport Tower. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not sure. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Not across south to come away. But it's. Why am I blanking? I should be advertising them. They held the event. [01:10:30] Speaker B: I don't recall. [01:10:32] Speaker A: It's like a. It's a dark and, like, dungeony, dragony type place. Right. Like, it's. It's pretty cool. [01:10:37] Speaker B: I can't. [01:10:38] Speaker A: I'm totally brains blanking on the I'll remember it next podcast. [01:10:41] Speaker B: And then he'll be like, everybody, I remembered. [01:10:45] Speaker A: I. The people listening nationwide do not give a. A flying about. Sorry. Now I'm cussing. [01:10:51] Speaker B: Now we've lost all monetization. [01:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah, we do every. There's. There's nothing to monetize here. But the. The most important thing. [01:11:00] Speaker B: If we could, then I'd get a better camera. [01:11:03] Speaker A: I have a point to this. Oh, you actually do. It was really cool. We're gonna get back to the. The comic here. Booster Gold's flying in, and Chameleon Boy thinks he's gonna be attacked. [01:11:16] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:11:16] Speaker A: I was also. He was gonna attack Ronald Reagan. And I was also impressed by the fact that Number One South Tacoma Way has kind of, like, been revitalized in that area. There's, like, a lot of little businesses in there. I'd recommend we go check it out one day, just for funsies. [01:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:32] Speaker A: Because there are lots of bars and businesses there. And I was like, this is really cool. It's not just that old Harkness furniture store anymore. And in the same way, here we've got a new superhero on the scene. But Chameleon Boy doesn't know that, and he's surprised. [01:11:46] Speaker B: Like, oh, it's a bad dude. [01:11:48] Speaker A: Changes from. He changes from his business person costume. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Yep. [01:11:53] Speaker A: And Ronald Reagan says, the Secret Service says, we're getting you and the vice president out of here because the bad things are happening. And Ronald Reagan says, by golly, George, I can't do Reagan. You do Reagan. You do. By golly, George. Did you see that? [01:12:10] Speaker B: Well. Oh, man. It's been a while since I know. [01:12:14] Speaker A: You'Re doing George, because when you start thinking about George not gonna do it, you know, it's there and too fast. By golly, George, you sound like. You sound like. I don't know, Cart. I don't know. Anyway. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Anyways, bye. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Golly. You gotta think like. Well, Nancy, I think is. Is Start from there. [01:12:35] Speaker B: Well, Nancy, by golly, George, do you see you're getting here. [01:12:40] Speaker A: You're getting there. [01:12:41] Speaker B: Do you see that? [01:12:44] Speaker A: You're getting there. Did you see George W. Bush talking about the war? [01:12:57] Speaker B: I did not. [01:12:58] Speaker A: In the Ukraine. [01:13:00] Speaker B: I did not. What did he say? [01:13:02] Speaker A: And start accusing Russia of going to war for no reason on false premises, but he actually said, accidentally said, the war in Iraq. [01:13:18] Speaker B: Wow. Well. [01:13:24] Speaker A: It was awesome. [01:13:25] Speaker B: Anyway, sometimes. Sometimes the Ghost of Christmas Pass comes back. [01:13:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Sometimes the truth is the truth. Anyway, we go back here and. Do you remember. Okay. Do you. We'll get to this book. I promise. Okay. The Legion's now fighting Booster Gold. Oh, man. That's what's happening. Yeah. There's. There's some dialogue. [01:13:49] Speaker B: They're. [01:13:50] Speaker A: They're fighting. You remember when I was a junior in high school and I was getting all this shit because I sat. I don't even remember the. The English teacher. That was young. We've talked about this before, I feel like. And I sat there and argued in front of my entire class that, like, we shouldn't go to war in Iraq because it was just a war about oil. This had been the first Gulf War. [01:14:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:14] Speaker A: And I got. Was getting all this shit from all these people, and I wouldn't stop arguing. Even the teacher looked at me and said, you're just arguing to hear yourself. And it's like, no, all of you are wrong. And he said to me. He said to me, well, can't you tell that you're wrong? Because everybody here disagrees with you. And. Yeah. Turns out history might have been on my side there. [01:14:42] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe just a little bit. A little bit. Anyway, I wish I remembered that. I know the teacher you're talking about. [01:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah. He was like, what, five foot five. [01:14:56] Speaker B: And he's a tiny guy. [01:14:57] Speaker A: Still thought he should be in high school. [01:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:15:00] Speaker A: I better. That we don't say his name now. [01:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, there were some good teachers. There was some. [01:15:06] Speaker A: Kind of predator, like, you know, mediocre teachers. Yeah. Anyway, it's. Anyway, well, Booster Gold, Ronald Reagan. They scurry Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush off into a limousine. Yep. Booster still fighting the Legion. The Legion, who was worried about everybody seeing them in the past, is now in full costume and out of their disguises, fighting Booster in the sky. [01:15:33] Speaker B: They are sky fighting. It's amazing. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Chameleon Boy goes in as some sort of. What's he call it? A Seth dragon. [01:15:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:15:46] Speaker A: He wraps, like, a giant octopus dragon. And he wraps. [01:15:49] Speaker B: It's like if you had a. If you took like a. Like a. Like a fruit by the foot and then wrapped Booster Gold in it. That's what he does. [01:15:57] Speaker A: He. [01:15:57] Speaker B: He wraps him. He wraps them up in a fruit by the foot with a face with. [01:16:01] Speaker A: A dragon tail and a dragon tail and a face. And he's like, this one was easy. Ultra Boy. And Ultra was like, yeah, I didn't even work up a slut. And Booster's like, delicious. [01:16:15] Speaker B: I love. I love strawberry. [01:16:17] Speaker A: And Brainiac 5 declares the case solved as the Chiller drives away with Ronald Reagan and George W. George H.W. [01:16:27] Speaker B: Bush. Whoa. The Chiller's got a evil smile on his face with this. And you can. [01:16:34] Speaker A: And. And Ronnie's like, you boys. Your boys did a marvelous job back there. Zimmer, congratulations. Well, the writer, that'd be Dan Jurgen, says, if you think this is a mess, just wait until you see what happens next month in Booster Gold Number nine. [01:16:56] Speaker B: Oh, my. [01:16:58] Speaker A: It's an interesting story. So interesting that the Legion doesn't need to be in it. [01:17:05] Speaker B: What are you talking about? What? They could have anybody in this book and. And Booster still followed up. [01:17:12] Speaker A: Well, I think. I think the point here was the Legion comes back to investigate their stuff, and that's kind of part of the premise. But the real premise of the story is telling Booster Gold's continued origin, right? [01:17:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:17:23] Speaker A: And so the Legion is just there along for the ride to continue this origin. Legion didn't need to be. Any contemporary hero could have done this. I mean, you could have put any contemporary hero in here and said, oh, there's this new guy out, and there's this threat on the President's life. I bet that it's the new guy that's going to do it. And then they would shake and be friends afterwards. Right. [01:17:44] Speaker B: We don't know if they're going to shake and be friends. [01:17:47] Speaker A: Am I happy to get to see Dan Jurgens drawn Legion characters? [01:17:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:52] Speaker A: Hell, yes. They look great. Honestly, it looks like he's drawn them before. [01:17:56] Speaker B: I think. I think having the Legion show up and, I mean, the Booster derives his power from a couple of different Legion items. So it's. It's. I feel it's important that they come, that they're there so that they can have that discussion or whatever, you know, because you throw any other superhero into the mix to. To open. Ward off this New. They don't. Nobody knows that he's there, right? No. No other superhero knows that he's there. So there could be a superhero in waiting just watching to see what's going to happen. But who's that superhero going to be? It's going to be Superman. Superman's already, like, pieced out. He's not going to be around. What are you going to have Green. A Green Lantern hanging out? Probably not. There's no Green Lantern there. Like, you know what? The Guardian. Yeah, it's Cigar. Didn't even around right now. Yeah, I know. [01:18:52] Speaker A: Jimmy Olsen. [01:18:52] Speaker B: Is the Guardian even around right now? [01:18:54] Speaker A: He's in Metropolis. Yeah. Okay. [01:18:56] Speaker B: Well, he could be guarding things, but. [01:18:59] Speaker A: I mean, he could be fighting Black Guard. [01:19:02] Speaker B: Oh, well, he could be. It'd be pretty cool. But point being is like, the. [01:19:08] Speaker A: Actually, I don't know if the Guardian is around post crisis. That's a good question. [01:19:12] Speaker B: The Legion. I feel like the Legion kind of needs to be there to give that. Like that. Okay. Booster's got some Legion items. They fill in that space in the backstory. They're not any of the superheroes you would imagine being there. They kind of bumble and stumble along with Booster and the bumble and stumble because, you know, they're trying to stop something bad because they think something bad is going to happen. They can't tell. They don't know. I mean, even though they're from the future and they should know that an. [01:19:47] Speaker A: Attempt on the President's life, the whole way they get away with that is that whole great disaster Jonah Hex thing they mentioned. So that's been a big thing. However, it is a 1986 book. You're getting Legends is going to come very soon after this, the miniseries. And there's a crossover with a Cosmic Boy miniseries where Cosmic Boy comes back and what they thought was happening in the past wasn't. And so they. They do continue this kind of thing a little bit. They don't necessarily link the two stories together, but they link the theming. Yeah, but in this case, they're so wrong. And I just. I will say, like, one, the art is great. I love him drawing the Legion. [01:20:43] Speaker B: So good. [01:20:45] Speaker A: You've got Brainiac 5, who's just, like, so overconfident that he's just like, yeah, I've already solved this. I could see that as his character. So that fits. Ultra Boy fits. Chameleon Boy seems to fit. So the characters seem to fit to an extent, but you'd think, you know, they're coming from the future. Skeets is there. You'd think they'd have something like a listening device or something from the future that would help them figure this shit out. Like, it's. Yeah, it's. It's. They're going a thousand years in the past, and they seem less equipped than Booster, who came 500 years into the past. Like, it's a little bit. A little bit silly there. [01:21:22] Speaker B: You have to think about who you're dealing with, too. You got. You got Ultra Boy, who basically is Booster. Intelligence. You got. [01:21:34] Speaker A: I don't think I would have chosen Ultra Boy for my mission. [01:21:37] Speaker B: But that's what I'm saying. You got. You got him. They're on the same intelligence level, right? So intelligent, wise, you're already down one, right? So you don't even count him out. [01:21:46] Speaker A: He's just. Yeah, but you do have the head of the Legion espionage squad who leads, like, espionage missions. Like, that's his job, Chameleon Boy there. And he's not using any tactics except we're going to walk around the city and try to find him. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going to try to find them. But, I mean, I think a lot of it is based off of bravado right there. You got. You got Brainiac 5 who's, like, already got it. [01:22:09] Speaker A: It's done. [01:22:10] Speaker B: It's in the bag. I don't need to do anymore. We've already, you know, and they already. [01:22:13] Speaker A: Brainiac5 attitude. [01:22:15] Speaker B: They've got that attitude coming into it, right? Chameleon Boy is like, hey, we got this unlocked. We're going to. We're going to go into this whole entire, like, stakeout situation, and we're just going to see where Michael is, and we're gonna get him. Because we're so far advanced, they have that idea. Like, you know, we're from the future. [01:22:36] Speaker A: Future. [01:22:37] Speaker B: He's from the future. Our past future. We're already, like, 10 steps ahead. We got him. And they just. They think they, you know, that's why. That's why they bring Ultra Boy, because they're like, all right, he can't do it on intelligence, but he can do it on strength, right? You know, he can use one of those. One of those strengths. And he's gonna get one of those. [01:22:57] Speaker A: Powers at a time. [01:22:58] Speaker B: Yeah, one of those powers at a. [01:22:59] Speaker A: Time, one of which is super strength. [01:23:01] Speaker B: So he can do one of those things, right? [01:23:02] Speaker A: He can do, you know, any of Ultra Boy's powers. [01:23:05] Speaker B: He's got laser eyes. He's got. He's got, like, the. The frost breath. He's got the super punchies. He. He can. Like. [01:23:12] Speaker A: He has. No, he has ultra strength. [01:23:15] Speaker B: Ultra strength speed. [01:23:16] Speaker A: Ultra speed and ultra vision. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Ultra vision. He's got all the things that Booster has. All the things Booster has. But Booster has to, like, enhance himself to get those, right? [01:23:30] Speaker A: You're saying Booster is enhanced? [01:23:32] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [01:23:33] Speaker A: If he's enhanced, then why does he need those glasses that. [01:23:37] Speaker B: No, I'm saying he's using all those things for. As enhancements. Right. He's almost tech enhancements. Okay, well, he's not taking some sort of enhancement drug. He's using things to. To get those enhancements. Right. Like cybernetic type thing, whatever you want to call it. Right. [01:23:57] Speaker A: But the Legion's not. [01:23:58] Speaker B: They're not. Yeah. I'm just saying. I'm saying that they don't need the. [01:24:02] Speaker A: Legion in the Legion. It's illegal to join the Legion if you use mechanical means to get powers. Yeah. So that's in there. It's in their bylaws. [01:24:12] Speaker B: I. I'm not. [01:24:13] Speaker A: Bylaws. [01:24:14] Speaker B: I know. I'm not saying that Booster should be in the Legion. I'm saying that they. That they're. They feel that they have so much. They're so much superior to Booster Gold or to Michael. And then when they find this Booster Gold guy, they, you know, they are so much more far superior, the three of them. They don't even have to worry about them because, you know, they're like, oh, three of us. We're awesome. [01:24:42] Speaker A: Well, I will say we are awesome because we go to the Gold exchange. We were better than Te Pouncy of Wichita, Kansas. [01:24:54] Speaker B: Oh, my. [01:24:57] Speaker A: We picked up on things that they didn't. [01:24:59] Speaker B: Oh, did we? [01:25:00] Speaker A: Yeah. So remember when the comic book writers were talking about the Astro Teens? [01:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:06] Speaker A: And the comic book artists. Right. Well, Te Pouncey says I also like the Astro Teen subplot. I got a major chuckle out of the Teen Titan style parody. And I can guess who Marty and Benny are partnered after they remind me of characters I once saw in Titan's story. I'm also looking forward to Booster Gold's battle with the greatest enemy, the Taxman, next month. Te Pouncey, you missed the point. We would write you a letter and let you know. But we identified that it was actually the Legion they were referring to. Dan Jurgens Drew. The Legion. [01:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:37] Speaker A: Not. But not the titans. So strike one for Mr. Pouncey. [01:25:41] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Then the Tax man, he beats a little bit. [01:25:47] Speaker A: It's a little. It's a little bit disturbing. Also, TM Maple is here again. [01:25:52] Speaker B: Oh, TM Maple. [01:25:54] Speaker A: Did I tell you I wouldn't be reading any of the TM Maple letters? [01:25:56] Speaker B: Because you did. He did. But we should compile all the TM Maple story, all the TM Maple letters into a book. Into a book. [01:26:07] Speaker A: That'd be awesome. Somebody out there if you have. If you're bored, can you get all the TM Maple letters, put them in a book? I will read that book. [01:26:14] Speaker B: Then we'll. We'll. We'll. We'll put the. We'll. I mean, we'll. We'll get all the letters, we'll put it in a book. We'll do kind of like whatever tomorrow's does, and we'll. We'll address each. Each letter, and then we'll. We'll. We'll write a secondary letter as ourselves to T.M. maple. [01:26:34] Speaker A: Well, next issue. Yes, that'd be issue nine, I believe. Huh? It says, Booster and the Legion versus the Evil Chiller. The Director and the 1000. Action, excitement, thrills and spills, and the obnoxious return of Monica Lake. Oh, be there. Aloha. Who just went on vacation to Hawaii? Dan Jurgens. And I think the best thing about this issue was the Meanwhile page was not in our copy, and so we didn't have to read more about the Dark Knight Returns. [01:27:18] Speaker B: There you go. There you go. [01:27:20] Speaker A: But you'll notice if you look at the shorts that I put up, you will have seen one by this point. [01:27:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:30] Speaker A: Since it's the past and future, Greg May hasn't even seen it yet. [01:27:32] Speaker B: I haven't seen it. [01:27:34] Speaker A: Such. Where I put the. Such beautiful art from the Dark Knight Returns is so. Just amazing art, you know, art that just really makes you want to read a comic book. It's. [01:27:45] Speaker B: It's dark and gritty, and sometimes that's what you want. Sometimes it's the kind of art that just makes you go, hey, this is. It might not be for you, but it's for somebody. [01:27:58] Speaker A: It's the kind of art that makes comics look like shit. Yeah. [01:28:01] Speaker B: So anyway, hey, you know, that's one person's opinion of it, and some people might find it appealing, and they might like that kind of thing. [01:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks so awesome. Anyway, it's almost like the Chiller could have been a character in Dark Knight Returns. [01:28:17] Speaker B: Could have been. [01:28:20] Speaker A: Is everybody has the Chiller's face in that book. [01:28:23] Speaker B: A B. [01:28:26] Speaker A: Except with ears. [01:28:27] Speaker B: I mean, the Chiller could have everybody's face in that book because that's what the Chiller would be doing. [01:28:34] Speaker A: Well, anyway, it's important for us to be done with this podcast. Yeah. And so we should mention. We mentioned Anne already in the Retro Emporium. But we didn't mention the Retro Emporium. We just mentioned booping. [01:28:48] Speaker B: We just. Yeah, we just mentioned the game booping. The game boop that she'll be getting for Christmas from Dan. But that might be a game that she could play at the Retro Emporium on one of our game nights that. [01:28:59] Speaker A: We'Ll have next year on Meeker Street. [01:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:01] Speaker A: In Kent, Washington. [01:29:02] Speaker B: There you go. [01:29:04] Speaker A: Which you will not invite me to. [01:29:05] Speaker B: You are invited. Oh, my gosh, Dan. And then the game nights are open to everybody. [01:29:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I expect a personal invitation when I am needed, and so I have run out of those at the Retro Emporium. But you can go to the Retro Emporium, see the holiday setup, which will still be there on the 28th when this podcast is out. [01:29:28] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, probably. [01:29:31] Speaker A: It may be going. Maybe a New Year's theme. Who knows? [01:29:33] Speaker B: Who knows? [01:29:34] Speaker A: You can go to the Retro Emporium, smell Fruit Loops, and relive your childhood on Meeker street and in Kent, Washington, downtown. Also, if you need some legal help, and I may need some legal help after this podcast, probably you can get in touch with Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul, or you can get some Jiu Jitsu training at Certified Jiu Jitsu. So either way, late night, legal, Certified Jiu Jitsu, whatever is your calling, you can get some help from Paul. On top of that, you could always prepare for next summer by picking up a copy of Absolute Zero's Camp Launchpad. [01:30:11] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Yeah. [01:30:13] Speaker A: Get. [01:30:14] Speaker B: Get your camp stuff ready because the. [01:30:16] Speaker A: Kids are going in camp and maybe the second book will come out someday. [01:30:21] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:30:24] Speaker A: It might sometime. I've been waiting for, like, announcements. [01:30:28] Speaker B: I know, I know, everybody, new summer. [01:30:30] Speaker A: Is coming and makes sense that you would release it in another summer. But it. [01:30:37] Speaker B: I have no control. [01:30:38] Speaker A: You don't hear anything. And the. It's. Well, anyway, there's that. And then on top of that, eventually, someday we keep sending you the link to wait for the Kickstarter to launch. You're supposed to launch in September, but it's now December and you were supposed to wake me up when it ended. [01:31:00] Speaker B: I didn't. [01:31:02] Speaker A: I know. So at some point. [01:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:31:08] Speaker A: Cyborg. The devastation of Alex Rain. [01:31:11] Speaker B: Okay. [01:31:13] Speaker A: Will be released on Kickstarter. [01:31:16] Speaker B: This is the story in which he gets booped off the bed, right? Yes. [01:31:22] Speaker A: Yes. That's where he is. Booped off the bed. Correct. [01:31:26] Speaker B: Or he. Or he's either booped or he boops. [01:31:30] Speaker A: Somebody boops. Somebody's doing some booping. [01:31:32] Speaker B: Somebody. [01:31:34] Speaker A: But if you're a kitten. But if you're a kitten, you can't boop cats. [01:31:38] Speaker B: That's right. [01:31:38] Speaker A: But if you're a cat, you can boop kittens. [01:31:40] Speaker B: There you go. Doesn't sound right. [01:31:44] Speaker A: Well, kittens are smaller than cats, so you can. They can boop them. [01:31:47] Speaker B: Boop. [01:31:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:49] Speaker B: Boop. [01:31:50] Speaker A: Have you interacted with cats before? Yes. [01:31:52] Speaker B: You have? [01:31:53] Speaker A: Yes. They definitely boop each other. [01:31:55] Speaker B: My old cat that is no longer with us would. You would walk by and it would just grab you. [01:32:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So see, it did not boop. [01:32:06] Speaker B: It just grabbed with its claws. [01:32:09] Speaker A: So anyway, you can pick up that Kickstarter. Yeah, I'm sure I got everything right this time. [01:32:15] Speaker B: So, you know, words. They're words. [01:32:20] Speaker A: Okay, Well, I mean, that's the title of the book, so make sure you watch out for that. Yeah. On Kickstarter, we'll put a link in the show notes, and someday that Kickstarter will go active. Someday. [01:32:31] Speaker B: Yes. [01:32:34] Speaker A: Okay, well, maybe I should head over to the Opal Lounge for a drink. [01:32:38] Speaker B: There you go. [01:32:40] Speaker A: You, too, could do that. I'm probably going to lift, but, you know, that's why I put all this in the frame. [01:32:50] Speaker B: You could lift and they go to that lounge. [01:32:53] Speaker A: I. That probably would be the correct order. And on that note, I think I should end the podcast, and you, too, can end the podcast with me. So we will end the podcast and let people know to read Booster Gold. Number nine. Read it. Did I say number eight? We just did number eight. [01:33:12] Speaker B: We did number eight. We're gonna read number nine and check it out and then let us know what you're thinking about it. [01:33:19] Speaker A: Yeah, and you could also, like, interact with us on Facebook, Blue Sky X if you want to, or. Or YouTube. I mean, they're all owned by heartless, soulless corporations, so, you know, go for it. [01:33:35] Speaker B: Allegedly. [01:33:37] Speaker A: And on that note, that's a great way to wrap up the podcast. So join us next week as the Chiller tries to wipe out two presidents. Amazing things. Bye. [01:33:52] Speaker B: Bye.