Funny Book Forensics 321 Booster Chills

[00:00:06] Speaker A: Says Greg. Says, I didn't wait for the countdown and that I was talking about content before we started. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. He was. He was just. Just content, content, content. And I'm like, dan, save it for the podcast. You're gonna use up all your good words, and then it's just gonna be just anger. But, no, I'm just joking. He started off with anger. He led with it. [00:00:29] Speaker A: We didn't re. If we didn't record things so far in advance, we could tell the listeners what's happening right now. I know. Or we could. I. But I was just mentioning to Greg that this cover. [00:00:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Of Booster Gold, number nine. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Nine. [00:00:45] Speaker A: How. How are we to number nine already? This may be our last Booster Gold. [00:00:49] Speaker B: I want more Booster Gold, Dan. [00:00:53] Speaker A: Well, we've done a lot of Booster Gold, and this may be the last one. [00:00:56] Speaker B: Can't stop now. It can't stop the gold train. It's a gold rush. [00:01:03] Speaker A: The gold rush. It's a gold rush Booster MC Gold. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Rush Booster MC Gold Rush. It's. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I was just commenting on this cover one. I said, I can't believe this cover. And I think Greg and I. Greg thought I was talking about something different, but I was referring to the fact that you have a book with, you know, one of your top five book guest starring in your book, and you don't put any of those characters on the COVID Yeah. [00:01:30] Speaker B: You don't. You don't put them on this cover at all. They're not. They're inside, Dan. They're in. They're. They're holding them back so that you. You want to open this book and get inside to see them. It's a peek behind the curtain. You see them on the. On. On. On the. [00:01:47] Speaker A: The. [00:01:47] Speaker B: The marquee of the book, but you don't. You don't see them on the COVID You know, they're there. You want to crack this book open because your friends are inside. That's right. [00:01:58] Speaker A: The Legion is really weird, too. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Because the logo for the Legion of Superheroes hasn't been that lettering in a while for, like, three years. [00:02:08] Speaker B: Oh, well, you know, they're going. It's a throwback. It's a historical story. They're going back. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Well, even when the historical story was happening, the characters. Well, it. This cover is so basic. It is compared to some of the other covers that Jurgens has been drawing. Yeah. Like, the other covers have had these really intricate backgrounds and everything, and. And this is just, like, fake or what? What did we decide? It's domeless. Mysterioless. Mysterio hanging out with, like, grabbing Booster. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got a. He's in a shankum. He's. He's got him in a. In a grip, holding that costume. Booster's legs kind of just straddling over one of his. His beefy thighs hanging to the side as Booster's limp, lifeless body is just kind of kicked back and his head is lulled backwards. He just. [00:03:08] Speaker A: It. [00:03:08] Speaker B: It's very sad. It's very sad. Booster. [00:03:13] Speaker A: I was gonna say something really tasteless. [00:03:14] Speaker B: And decided, oh, you were gonna say it looked like a cover of a. One of those novels. [00:03:23] Speaker A: No, this. This. This is. Well, anyway, I just. Yeah, well, anyway, Chiller is holding up Booster and says, I'm going for the president, Booster. Over your dead body. You know what we could do? What could we do as a comic, by the way? [00:03:42] Speaker B: What's that? [00:03:43] Speaker A: Well, I don't know if it was a great comic. I don't know if I'd rate it as a great comic, but down below, it says, are you this bored already? Like, we just started the podcast. You haven't changed cameras yet. [00:03:58] Speaker B: No. [00:03:59] Speaker A: And now you're yawning into the. Now you're yawning into the camera. [00:04:03] Speaker B: I'm yawning into. I'm sorry, everybody. It's been a long. [00:04:06] Speaker A: You worked from home today. Like, why are you possibly tired? Was no traffic. There was no anything. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Because when you're training over teams, it is. It is difficult. Dan. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Well, this. This little box in the bottom says, can you solve the DC Challenge before we do? [00:04:27] Speaker B: Can we. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Are you familiar with the DC Challenge? I. [00:04:31] Speaker B: No, I am not. What is it? [00:04:35] Speaker A: Did you. Were you. Did you not. Do you. Do you really not know? [00:04:38] Speaker B: Or is it, like, where you got two books behind a. A question mark, brown cover on each one, and someone reads to you a little bit, and then you got to figure out, is it Teen Titans or is it the Legion or is it Superman or Booster Gold, or is it. [00:04:56] Speaker A: No. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Oh, do you drink out of now a cup? No. [00:05:02] Speaker A: No. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Oh, is it where they put them all on an island and some people live and some people die? Oh, because that was a book that. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Was Marvel Contest of Champions. Yeah. No, this. Hunger Mutants. This was a 12 issue series that started while Crisis on Infinite Earth was happening. The Crisis on Infinite Earth. The Compendium states that the events on the DC challenge took place on Earth32. I don't know why that matters anyways. Well, that's not. It doesn't explain to you what the DC challenge is. Anyway, the DC challenge was this. You would have a writer and pencil or a writer and art team. Now, I don't know if they went with the strongest first issue, except for. Well, the art team. Yes. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Okay. [00:06:03] Speaker A: The writer. I mean, no shade on Mark Evanier, but I don't know if I would have led with that writer as my intro to this book. But you did have Gene Colon and Bob Smith as the art team, which is interesting. Bob Smith inking Gene Colon. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Just. Yeah, I mean. [00:06:22] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. I mean, might I have Bob Smith pencil? Well, anyway, cool. So the art would have been in very 70s. Yeah. [00:06:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:37] Speaker A: In that first issue. Anyway, the DC challenge was this. Each writer wrote an issue, handed it off to the next writer, and they had to pick up where that creative team left off. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Oh. What? [00:06:50] Speaker A: It's a very great concept. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Oh, I like it. [00:06:52] Speaker A: I think you would love this concept. It was not well received. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I bet not. [00:07:01] Speaker A: But it allowed. It allowed exposure to all sorts of different things because, like, the writers would set up sometimes, like, something at the. Like a cliffhanger or something like that that the other writer would have to write out of or sometimes set up characters they had to use, and then they could use characters from any universe. So, like, the first issue had Adam Strange, Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Not. Not a way to go out of your comfort zone, Mr. Evanir. But the second issue had all sorts of people in it. Like, killer. Let's see. The Bawana beast. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Oh, the water beast. [00:07:42] Speaker A: And Kong gorilla. [00:07:44] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:07:46] Speaker A: And the next issue looks like a Hawk woman. Hawkman. All sorts of different characters showing up. The Viking prince. You're like, what? Who is that? [00:08:00] Speaker B: Here's. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Here's amazing. Issue four has Detective Chimp, Dr. 13. [00:08:13] Speaker B: It's a banger cast. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Yeah. So we had. Oh, it's funny. You can kind of. You can kind of guess who the characters would be. Who's writing each issue, too. So, okay, you had Mark Evanier on issue one, Len Wein issue two, Doug Mench on issues three, with Carmen Infantino penciling. With Bob Smith inking. Carmen Infantino. Oh, yeah. Whoa. Like, you have Paul Levitz writing issue four with no Legion appearances. But you do get. That's where you start to get Detective Chimp and Zatanna and Dr. Thirteen with Gil Kane penciling. Now, if you could think of an inking. The worst possible inking match for Gil Kane, but is a great inking match for many, many other people. No, no, I'm saying this person is a great anchor for many other People, but would be a terrible anchor for Gil Kane and was super popular at the time and probably was maybe drawing a super famous series that we've been talking about on other podcasts of time. H. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Man. [00:09:35] Speaker A: Pl jansen inked gil kane, Like, no. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Was it just like he was just drawing right over it? Is he like, oh, he's like, let me fix that. Let me fix that face for you. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. [00:09:57] Speaker B: It looks like, you know, I mean, there's certain things. There's certain things I love about Bob Kane stuff, but then there's certain things that I can imagine somebody else going over it and saying, let me just fix that for you. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. Well, anyway, the next issue is Mike W. Barr with Dave Gibbons penciling and Mark Farmer inking Dave Gibbons, not Mark Ferber drawing the book, mind you. This is just interesting. [00:10:24] Speaker B: It's just like, hey, you know what? I'm gonna let you. [00:10:27] Speaker A: This is a very young Mark Farmer at this point. Right? That's great. Yeah, this is. Okay. All right, let's go to the next one. Here we've got Elliot S. Magin writing. Okay. Cool. Off. Of all of his Superman novellas. Right. With Dan Jurgens penciling and Larry Maldeshat inking. Which makes sense because they, I believe, work together on Legion books. So Maldstadt. I always say Maldeshad. I don't know why it's Maldstadt. Paul Kupperberg right in the middle of his failed run on Doom Patrol. But I love Paul. Paul, I love you, by the way. I know I'm referencing your failed run on Doom Patrol. I'm sorry. I do like you. I have three of his books. Like, I like written books. He's a cool guy. With Joe Staten and Steve Mitchell inking. I don't know who Steve Mitchell is. Joe Ston. Yeah. Drew all of the. If you don't know Joe Ston, Joe Dayton drew all of the All Star comics that they were running, though, that Levitz wrote. And then of course, he who helped create, co create Wolverine also wrote. [00:11:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:41] Speaker A: Huh. You know, the editor that helped co create Wolverine. [00:11:44] Speaker B: The editor that helped create Co Create. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, flipping to issue 8 here on this aside, Jerry Conway. Yeah, there makes sense. A veteran writer at that point with Rick Hoberg and Dick Giordano coming back in and inking, which there's your. There's an inker that, you know, you can rely on to ink anyone. [00:12:11] Speaker B: It's going to be solid. [00:12:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Only the. He's only been an art director at two Major companies. Okay. Oh, here we go. We asked about this the other. Other day. Okay. This is a bizarre one. Ready for this? [00:12:26] Speaker B: Give me the bizarre one. [00:12:28] Speaker A: All right, we've got Roy Thomas writing. Okay. He. Who we were just mentioning. Yes. [00:12:36] Speaker B: Love his music. [00:12:37] Speaker A: And we have a Klaus Jansen cover. Okay. With interiors penciled and inked by Don Heck. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Wow. [00:12:52] Speaker A: So if you saw that cover and you were expecting the art inside to look like that cover. Nope. [00:12:58] Speaker B: Come on, now. Don's got a great style. [00:13:02] Speaker A: I think Don should have done the COVID If you got Don Heck, use Don Heck. We were just commenting on Don Heck eking somebody else a couple podcasts ago. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Just. [00:13:13] Speaker A: What a crazy art team. What crazy art team? What crazy. What a crazy talented artist they have at D.C. right now. Yeah, you've got. Okay, you ready for this one now? [00:13:24] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:25] Speaker A: Dan Mishkin writing out in the. Mishkin with Kurt Swan. Strong inked by Terry Austin. Wow. Were they just, like. Were they just like, throwing names into, like, a hat and being like, all right, let's figure out how we can mix and match these pairs. Yeah. [00:13:48] Speaker B: They were throwing there what they did. They. They. They threw. They threw all the artists into a hat, and they're like, you're drawing, you're inking, you're drawing, you're in. And it's like, okay. [00:14:05] Speaker A: It'S really here. You can see it. It's like. It's like all. Terry Austin is making all of his characters just. All of the curse. One character just float. Yeah. Okay, that's interesting. Okay, let's go to number 11 here. [00:14:27] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:14:30] Speaker A: I actually like this. This one makes sense, but. [00:14:32] Speaker B: Makes sense. [00:14:32] Speaker A: It makes sense. It makes sense because Dr. Fate appears. But again, the combination is interesting. We've got a Marv Wolfman in Carrie Bates story. Okay, okay. [00:14:45] Speaker B: All right, I'm into it. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Two opposition writers and editors right? In the 70s at DC and Marvel. Right. [00:14:51] Speaker B: I'm into it, though. I'm into it. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Writing the story with Keith Giffen penciling. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah. With Dave Hunt inking. [00:15:04] Speaker B: What. [00:15:05] Speaker A: Probably the soundest combination. Now, this is where I think the writers, they were just like, all right, let's put the opposition editors together and go the. [00:15:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Come up with a story. Let's lock you to a room and see if somebody dies. [00:15:18] Speaker A: It is a really, actually amazing cover. This is some early Keith Giffen crazy art as he starts that really deaf line phase. Crazy. Like, I know. It's. It's really. It's. No, it's. It is very, very, very cool. It is very cool. [00:15:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that is. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that is. That is fantastic. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:43] Speaker A: All right. And then finally, issue 12. If you're bored of this, by the way, and if you're not, go read the DC Challenge. It was a. [00:15:50] Speaker B: We should do it. [00:15:50] Speaker A: It was a crazy mess. [00:15:52] Speaker B: If you think we should do it, let us know. Yeah. Oh, it's a side podcast in. [00:15:56] Speaker A: In issue 12, they let everybody do something, so. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:16:00] Speaker A: You had writers Mark Evanier, Dan Mishkin, Roy Thomas, Jerry Conway, Lynn Wein and Marv Wolfman. Y' all get a page. An artist. Yeah, an artist cover by Jerry Ordway. Cool. [00:16:12] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:13] Speaker A: With pencilers Dan Spiegel, Dennis Cohen, Luke McDonnell, Stan Walk, Steve Lytle, Ross Andrew Tom, Mandrake, and inked by a whole bunch of different people. [00:16:25] Speaker B: A whole bunch of different people. That's a. [00:16:27] Speaker A: That's. [00:16:28] Speaker B: I'm just joking. I know. [00:16:29] Speaker A: You know, the irony here is it would be really interesting if they had originally gone to Steve Lytle to draw the whole issue. And then there's, like. They were like, yeah, there's no way he can be fast enough to, like, drop this issue. [00:16:41] Speaker B: We'll just put you on the last one and only for two pieces. [00:16:46] Speaker A: So. Yeah. And. And then they did a. They did another DC Challenge series a few years ago in honor of Jack Kirby. Oh, yeah, that one was. That one's fun. That's cool. Yeah. So, you know, is the. That was fun. I mean, it was worth it to read it, and seeing a bunch of artists trying to be Jack Kirby, even though Jack Kirby says, don't be me, don't be, and it was the Commandee Challenge. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Commandee Challenge. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I love it. I thought that was a lot of. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Fun for the Commandee fans. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I love Commandee. [00:17:21] Speaker B: I. I know. That's. I know. I know. Who doesn't? [00:17:26] Speaker A: Okay. Well, anyway, back to this issue, which we haven't left because. Can you solve the DC Challenge before we do? [00:17:32] Speaker B: We clearly. We never get off the COVID The COVID The COVID that you're like, I don't like this cover. But you found something on the COVID that you really like. The DC Challenge. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the Chiller is. Is stupid. Like, honestly, like, if I have any complaints, I mean, you've heard them loud and clear, folks. If I have any complaints about this book, it's. The villains are. [00:17:54] Speaker B: I mean, they're not great, but they're not terrible. They're. I've seen worse. [00:17:59] Speaker A: They're terrible. [00:18:00] Speaker B: I've seen worse. [00:18:00] Speaker A: The twister was. The twister was Terrible. [00:18:02] Speaker B: I. I honestly thought he was going to be something else. And then he. He threw us for a loop, everybody. He threw us for a loop. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Yeah, he. He tied your mind in knots. [00:18:12] Speaker B: He did. He tied my mind in knots. And now we got. We got the Chiller, and he's. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Blackguard is one of the worst villains I've ever seen. I mean, Dancer had some potential if we get her out of that costume. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah, but then. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Then Mr. Jurgens. [00:18:27] Speaker B: But then you got. I mean, like, then, you know, it's just. Yeah, it just keeps. [00:18:31] Speaker A: It keeps. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Finally, a Cobra Commander, though. I mean, I love it. I love it. [00:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Diamond Face. Commander. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Yeah, Diamond Face. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Well, anyway, yeah, I like. I. I do like the idea of, like, Dan Jurgens tying into the 1,000, 100, 10,000, whatever, and making it 10. Like, tying booster firmly into Metropolis, like, launching Booster into that world. It makes sense. I. I do like that element of it. I like the Rosenthorne appearance so far. It was probably my favorite guest star, honestly, the Superman guest appearance. Superman was just a giant typical of the time. And then. Well, yeah, thank you, John Byrne. And then. Yeah, now the Legion is here, and they're kind of being jerks, too. [00:19:19] Speaker B: Well, I mean, they're. [00:19:20] Speaker A: I mean, their stuff did get stolen. [00:19:21] Speaker B: Their stuff got stolen. They're. They're like. They're. Dude, this guy took our. And they want it back. [00:19:28] Speaker A: And apparently, Dan Jurgens got really tired of drawing backgrounds, because we get to the next page, and last issue, Chameleon Boy had Booster all tied up. [00:19:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And in the fruit. And the Other 2, Brainiac 5 and Ultra Boy were watching. And we get another page without backgrounds, but we really get a cool Ultra Boy there up in the corner with his hand out facing everybody. And, I mean, the art's cool. The figure boy coming off the top ropes. Ultra Boy, clearly, you should probably be talking to Ultra Boy about the butt routine there. [00:20:04] Speaker B: I know his butt looking good. Not a weak ass. He's got it. His ACL is not gonna go. [00:20:10] Speaker A: But we don't get to see Brainiac 5's butt because they put Ultra Boy's foot right in the middle of it. [00:20:14] Speaker B: In the butt. It is pretty funny. It looks like it's forever planted. Like, get over there. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks like he's kicking his ass. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Or he's riding. He's riding Brainiac 5. [00:20:26] Speaker A: He's, like, riding Brainiac 5 like a skateboard. Yeah, yeah, very. Please preface that with what you're saying. Well, we turned the page, and, of course, because Booster look like Any good? Like any good two issue story, it looks like the hero is wrapped up by these vile Legion of superheroes members who want to tell him what to do. And the next page, he zaps his way out. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Oh, man. He hits him with the blast. [00:21:01] Speaker A: We do find that. And Booster's complaining a lot in his head and still explaining to us in great detail how his powers work. Yeah. In his head. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's all new. I mean, when you. [00:21:14] Speaker A: I like that. [00:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all new. We don't know. [00:21:16] Speaker A: We're only issue nine. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, it's. This is like the. But it's, it's, it's his first appearance, you know, in a sense. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Right? [00:21:27] Speaker B: It is. [00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm not being. This is not, this is not critical. This is not Superboy. This is not clone. Clone Boy. Clone Superboy walking around every time he uses power. I'm going to use my tactile telekinesis to move this thing. Yeah, like. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a little better. It's a lot better than that. [00:21:45] Speaker B: He's just like, he's. Oh, man, this is. [00:21:47] Speaker A: I'm. [00:21:48] Speaker B: I know what I can do with all this. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Cool. Well, he zaps Chameleon Boy and then starts to fly away. And that makes the smartest Legionnaire Ultra Boy. Yeah. Very upset. And Ultra Boy is going to go take him out. And I will say, the dialogue, it's interesting for somebody who drew the Legion. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:18] Speaker A: I don't know. It's kind. I don't. It's, it's, it's jarring because Paul Levitz was writing all of the Legion at this time, pretty much. And so whenever you deviate from that, it's just kind of weird to see them in other books. It's kind of like when Claremont was on the X Men so long. Right. And if the X Men showed up in another book, the dialogue was different. It was just kind of like their voice isn't there. Why is this happening? [00:22:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Right. Which made sense like when Louis Simonson did X Factor. Right. They were. It was. They kept the characters separate for the most part. Right. I mean, they had, they did have some. [00:22:52] Speaker B: They had. [00:22:53] Speaker A: And now I'm gonna, I'm gonna roll that back really quickly. Okay. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:56] Speaker A: They obviously had crossover stories. Right. Um, but they did keep. When they weren't doing a crossover story, the books were pretty much kept separate. Right. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Gotcha. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:23:07] Speaker B: No, that makes sense. [00:23:07] Speaker A: And the characters had their own voices. And this is one where the Legion is A huge group. You've pulled three of them over. But Ultra Boy is saying things like, I don't know how you got Legion equipment or why you're here in 1985, Carter, but I intend to get those answers now. And Ultra. And Booster's like, geez, who are you, anyway? And he's like, the name's Ultra Boy, Mr. I. Like he's going to twirl his mustache or something. I don't know. It just seems like. It seems like weird dialogue sometimes, but. [00:23:40] Speaker B: He'S about to fold them open and put him on a train track. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, Booster should be tied to a train track. Honestly, at this point, he stole all their stuff, so. Well, anyway, somebody's a. There's a limousine going through on a motorcade. Yeah. And we know what that's all about because the president was trapped down there. Both the president and the vice president. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Both of them. [00:24:08] Speaker A: It's. [00:24:08] Speaker B: Again, what's crazy, I mean, that. That goes against protocol, doesn't it? A vice president and the president in the same place. Man, the 80s. [00:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. I. I have a feeling the comic book reality wasn't the actual reality. Okay. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:24] Speaker A: I mean, we have discussed some of the potential implications of the Chiller being successful. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not all bad, but is it? [00:24:33] Speaker A: I don't know. Assassination is generally bad. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. We have the privilege of. We have the privilege of historical hindsight and policies that were made and. [00:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Wars that were fought and I mean. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Well, we probably never have. [00:24:49] Speaker A: You look at the impact on now. If you look at the impact on now. I mean, we would never, certainly never start attacking a small country to preserve their oil or anything. Or take it. I mean, it's cool. Like, I mean, but you could also argue that, like, going to Gulf, The Gulf War, Gulf War One, and setting the precedent there has maybe less impact than us stealing tactics from Somali pirates, so. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Yeah. However. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:28] Speaker A: I do fully expect Pete Hegseth to be rolling out a video with I'm a Real American playing on it. [00:25:40] Speaker B: Most likely. [00:25:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, most likely. You know, one piece of shit plays music from another piece of shit, so, you know, it all fits together. It. [00:25:52] Speaker B: It's how the. It's how the. The stew gets made. [00:25:55] Speaker A: I don't know. But, boy, in 1986, did we love some Hulk Hogan. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. Yeah, we did. [00:26:04] Speaker A: Now, were you a Hulk Hogan fan or were you a Macho man fan? [00:26:07] Speaker B: I was. I was a Macho man fan. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Even though he was a bad guy. [00:26:10] Speaker B: Even Though. He's a bad guy. Didn't matter. I, I, I, I like Andre the Giant. I like. I like Macho Man. I liked and man, I can't, I can't even. I can't even say. I can't even say his name because, I mean, like, there's a lot of. But like, I mean, like, like, there's, there's, there's definitely, like a lot of. I don't know what it is. I always rooted for the bad guys. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you. You were to see. And I was. You, you, of course, know. I rooted for whoever I was told to root for. Yeah, yeah, yes, Obviously, you gotta look, you don't root for bad people. [00:26:58] Speaker B: Root for the bad guy. [00:27:01] Speaker A: I mean, what were we looking at here? [00:27:02] Speaker B: Roddy. Roddy Piper. Roddy Piper. [00:27:06] Speaker A: Was he a bad guy? Piper was a bad guy. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a bad guy. [00:27:10] Speaker A: Well, he was. He was going from bad guy to good guy. I think he was. He was a bat. This was WrestleMania two times. So, yeah, this is. [00:27:17] Speaker B: He was, he was, he was. He was floating that line. But I thought. I always liked him because he was, he was kind of like. He was. He was kind of crazy in the sense, like, you know, breaking bottles on his head and doing stuff. He was a blader. So he's, you know, bleeding and stuff. It was like, the hell is going on? Yeah. [00:27:33] Speaker A: Well, what do we have here? We've got. Let me go through the card with you really quick here. We had. Looks like we had. [00:27:41] Speaker B: What do we have? [00:27:41] Speaker A: There was. Oh, this. Oh, this is the weird one. That was at three locations. So you have. Oh, you would have been actually angry. I was actually unhappy with this one. You got Paul Orndorff. I didn't get to watch this, of course, live. I got to see it on the videotapes from the. [00:27:59] Speaker B: On the Coliseum. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Videotapes from. What was the video store? Hollywood Video. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Is it Hollywood or did you get from the Hill? It was. There was. [00:28:08] Speaker A: No, not for Mega. [00:28:09] Speaker B: Did you go to the gas station? Oh, the one by Safeway. Oh, oh, shoot. [00:28:16] Speaker A: That had the curtain. Where in the room you weren't allowed to go back to. [00:28:19] Speaker B: I can't remember the name of it. [00:28:20] Speaker A: I. [00:28:20] Speaker B: But I know, I know, though. I know the place you're talking about. I see it in my mind. [00:28:25] Speaker A: Yeah, that's where I. That's where we got our videos. [00:28:27] Speaker B: I see it in my mind. We. We used to go to the door. [00:28:32] Speaker A: Paul Orndorff versus the magnificent Morocco. Randy Savage with Ms. Elizabeth defeated George the Animal Steel. But as you will recall, George got to carry Elizabeth away, Right? Yeah. Yeah, I believe. Yeah. [00:28:48] Speaker B: That roll. [00:28:49] Speaker A: Randy Crazy Jake Roberts defeated some person named George Wells. That sounds like a squash match to me. [00:28:57] Speaker B: It does. [00:29:00] Speaker A: How is that? On WrestleMania, Mr. T defeated Roddy Piper. Roddy Piper in a boxing match, which I remember not liking. Actually, I didn't. [00:29:08] Speaker B: It was. [00:29:09] Speaker A: It didn't. Mr. T should be able to beat Roddy Piper. [00:29:12] Speaker B: But it's a boxing match. [00:29:15] Speaker A: But we rooted for Mr. T. Yeah. The Fabulous Moolah. How old is she at that point? [00:29:21] Speaker B: Oh, at this point. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:22] Speaker B: She's. [00:29:23] Speaker A: She's. [00:29:23] Speaker B: She's getting to the age where she's bringing in the new. The young bloods, the. The young ladies. [00:29:28] Speaker A: While she defeated. Defeated Velvet McIntyre. Yeah. Corporal Kirchner, who was the person they tried to bring in to replace Sergeant Slaughter, and it didn't. [00:29:40] Speaker B: Didn't work. Yeah. [00:29:42] Speaker A: Defeated Nikolai Volkov. Andre the Giant won a battle royal. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Smacking people out. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Defeating Brett Hart as the last person. The British Bulldogs defeated the dream team of Greg Valentine and Brutus Beefcake. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:30:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Ricky Steamboat defeated Hercules Hernandez. [00:30:07] Speaker B: Yes. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Yes. Setting up for the Ricky Steamote Macho man feud for WrestleMania 3. [00:30:13] Speaker B: Yes. Which was tough. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Adrian Adonis. [00:30:15] Speaker B: I'm gonna say which is tough, because if you like both of them, it's hard because they're both, like, I mean, amazing. So it's. It's tough. [00:30:25] Speaker A: Adrian Adonis defeated Uncle Elmer. Yeah. [00:30:31] Speaker B: I love his pancakes. [00:30:34] Speaker A: The Funks. [00:30:35] Speaker B: Oh, the Funks. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Even though Dory Funk Jr. Was called Hoss Funk for some reason. Defeated Tito Santana and the junkyard dog. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Oh, Junkyard dog. [00:30:48] Speaker A: There was probably a branding iron in that match, I believe. And Hulk Hogan defeated King Kong Bundy. Sad day for the Heenan family. Well, anyway, so that's what you were looking at here in comparison in 1986. [00:31:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:12] Speaker A: These were the heroes. You had heroes like Hulk Hogan and Mr. T and America. And right here you have the anti Mr. T. Booster Gold. There's no teaming up with Mr. T cartoon here. But. [00:31:30] Speaker B: But Booster believed in what Mr. T said. You better be somebody or you're gonna be somebody's fool. And he was gonna be somebody. [00:31:41] Speaker A: He was gonna be the fool. [00:31:42] Speaker B: No, he wasn't gonna be the fool. He is the fool. But he's gonna be somebody while being the fool. Oh, I messed it up. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Damn it. Ultra Boy is kicking his ass and throwing him all over the city. Yeah, so much for the low profile the Legion was supposed to be keeping here in the 20th century. [00:31:58] Speaker B: Breaking stuff left And. Right. Smashing stuff. Things are blowing up. [00:32:02] Speaker A: I love the Ultra Voyage. Is grinning as he gets shot with the blaster thing. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:09] Speaker A: Cuz he like, haha, I'm invulnerable. Not always though, because he can only use one power at a time. We flip the page and Ronnie's back there going, you're not Agent Zimmer. He's like, good thinking, guys. My name's the Chiller. And. And George W. Bush. H.W. bush. Sorry. Says, unfortunately, Mr. President, as I recall from CIA briefings, the Chiller is an international hitman of extraordinary ability. So they acknowledge George HW's previous CIA experience. [00:32:47] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Yeah, I mean, you know, he. He wasn't. [00:32:51] Speaker A: He cut. He. [00:32:52] Speaker B: He was a guy. [00:32:56] Speaker A: And then he says, not gonna. I'd say we're obviously his next targets. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Well, George, it's, It's. Hey, if that's so. Well, I can't seem. I can't see that far. It's terrible. My bifocals. [00:33:17] Speaker A: We are the worst. Yeah. When the. When south park says celebrity. Celebrity in person. Bad celebrity impersonations or whatever. We are. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Living up to that. We're doing it. [00:33:27] Speaker A: We're doing it. Are you watching the South Park? [00:33:29] Speaker B: No. No, I'm not. [00:33:30] Speaker A: I'm. I'm ashamed of you for not watching the season. [00:33:34] Speaker B: But Dan, I drive a Prius. I'm doing my part. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Look, Satan was just having his baby in the last episode. [00:33:42] Speaker B: Oh, really? Well, that's nice. Yeah. [00:33:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't believe you're not watching that. Jesus is turned into a bro now. [00:33:53] Speaker B: Wow. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Does he have broccoli hair? [00:33:58] Speaker A: No, but he has a goatee. [00:34:00] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, he's a bro, not a bruh. [00:34:04] Speaker A: Yeah, he walks around playing guitar like he's Bill and Ted breaking things with his guitar. [00:34:11] Speaker B: That's cool. [00:34:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's, it's. I can't believe you haven't. Anyway, I haven't seen it. Get back to me when you've spent the two hours to watch the five episodes that are out of the season. [00:34:22] Speaker B: I'm currently watching the other show you told me to watch. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Oh, the Chair Company. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty much my life. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Fantastic. The Chair Company. But those are only 20 minute episodes. [00:34:32] Speaker B: No, I'm saying the. The actual show is very much like my life. So I mean. [00:34:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I. You. You fell off a chair and then you started the entire. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I went down the. I went down the rabbit hole, Dan. I couldn't stop. And then there was a guy in my closet and he was like, there's no way out, and I'm spoiling things for people. But that's okay. [00:34:51] Speaker A: The Chair company is honestly, like, a television show version of this podcast. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Oh, it is. [00:34:57] Speaker A: It, like, goes everywhere. Like, just like, okay, what will happen next? I get distracted and. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I swear I was driving in the car with you one day and you were listening to something, and I was like, what are you listening? Are these prank calls? And you're like, no, these are just them talking to each other. They actually say this to each other? Like, no, they're just talking to themselves, but with each other. This is my favorite part. Let me skip ahead and then. Yeah, just. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Yes, they have Jerky Boy analog. Is for anybody who's paying attention in the show. It's. [00:35:33] Speaker B: It's fantastic. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Remember the Jerky Boys? I'm sorry. [00:35:36] Speaker B: Oh, I still have the CD. I'll send it to you. [00:35:38] Speaker A: I got two. Of course you do. [00:35:40] Speaker B: I'll sign it. [00:35:41] Speaker A: J.J. penman, train conductor. J.J. penman loved the Jerky Boys. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:35:50] Speaker A: Shout out to JJ who will never listen to this podcast. [00:35:52] Speaker B: He will never listen to it. [00:35:55] Speaker A: He'd be like. Be like, what are you two idiots doing? [00:35:58] Speaker B: Why are you two idiots doing this? [00:36:00] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:36:03] Speaker A: So anyway, eventually Booster gets up and hits Ultra Boy when he's switching powers or something. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, I gotta. I gotta be fast. [00:36:14] Speaker A: I gotta. [00:36:15] Speaker B: I gotta be so fast to. To catch him off balance while he's not. [00:36:20] Speaker A: And this sets up the inevitable battle of force field versus force field. [00:36:24] Speaker B: No. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Brainiac 5 rolls in, turns on his force field. Booster turns on his force field. Booster's confused. Oh, hey, Brainiac 5 says drops is, of course, Mr. Spock. Fascinating. Which. Shameful. Shameful. Come up with another word there. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Hey, you know, it's a very interesting intersect right there between the two different things in which you love. You love the Legion, you love Star Trek. Why can't you love them both? Brainiac is much like a spa. [00:36:56] Speaker A: I do. I have the Star Tre Legion crossover back here. [00:36:59] Speaker B: So did Brainiac and Spock have a baby? [00:37:03] Speaker A: Y. Let's see. Right? We can find out. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Had a baby. Its name was Booster. [00:37:10] Speaker A: It's. [00:37:11] Speaker B: Yeah, they did. [00:37:15] Speaker A: Pretty. Yeah. [00:37:16] Speaker B: See. [00:37:18] Speaker A: It'S. No, I don't think so. [00:37:20] Speaker B: Oh, okay. No, their whole entire interaction, though, is like when two dogs meet at the dog park that are like, there they. [00:37:28] Speaker A: Are right next to each other. [00:37:30] Speaker B: That's cool. They're. They're very much the same, but different. And by different, I mean one has pointy ears and one is Green mean well. [00:37:41] Speaker A: And immediately, Brainiac 5 takes charge and starts telling Ultra Boy what to do, which is how it should be. Yeah. And. And Ultra Boy sees. Finally, Ultra Boy wises up and actually uses his powers to do something useful. Oh, and identifies that Booster's wearing a flight ring along with a force shield belt. [00:38:03] Speaker B: That guy. [00:38:05] Speaker A: How'd he get him? We. We flipped the page, and Mr. Chiller is out in the woods with the President and the Vice President. [00:38:14] Speaker B: This does not look good, guys. [00:38:17] Speaker A: And Ronnie's giving him a perfect speech. Remember the Gipper and stuff like that? You can't kill us. That'd be terrible. The Chiller explains the entire plot to the President and the Vice President before killing him. [00:38:31] Speaker B: That's typical. So, so typical bad guy move. I'm gonna tell you everything before I get you so that you know. [00:38:44] Speaker A: Well, all hopes have faded. They say. He says, adios, amigos, and somebody else freeze. [00:38:50] Speaker B: And here's a question, and it's Skeets. Wait, wait. Here's a question. Do you think Ronnie was thinking in. In his. In this moment that if he only had a secret weapon with him that. That maybe the outcome might change? [00:39:02] Speaker A: He has Skeets. He doesn't need a secret weapon. [00:39:04] Speaker B: He doesn't need a secret weapon. [00:39:05] Speaker A: Okay, Okay. I. Eats is the secret. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Okay. Skeets is a secret weapon. [00:39:12] Speaker A: All right? [00:39:12] Speaker B: Skeets is there. [00:39:13] Speaker A: I don't think this is. Look, I mean, not to be too ugly, but I'm going. Yeah, but this is 1986. I don't think Ronald Reagan's remembering what he had for breakfast. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Yeah, you're probably not wrong. [00:39:29] Speaker A: You're probably not wrong. [00:39:30] Speaker B: Probably not wrong. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Historically, I'm wrong. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Historically, you're probably not wrong. [00:39:36] Speaker A: So. Which is sad, because that's a terrible. Alzheimer's is a terrible thing. [00:39:41] Speaker B: It is a terrible thing. [00:39:41] Speaker A: People make jokes about it, but it was one of those. It's one of those times when I grew up being this kid who believed in everything that was American. America was great. And here they were, hiding this really major thing from us. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And I was just thinking, if he had his monkey. [00:40:02] Speaker A: Brainiac 5 would have the monkey. [00:40:03] Speaker B: No, George had a monkey when he went to Washington. When Mr. Smith went to Washington. [00:40:08] Speaker A: Yeah, but Brainiac 5 got a monkey later because Brainiac used to have a monkey in. [00:40:13] Speaker B: And that's because you didn't realize that Brainiac 5 is actually. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Well, anyway, Skeet is back and I was all excited, and you interrupted. [00:40:24] Speaker B: I'm sorry. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Skeets is back, and Skeets is back. And Skeets shoots the Chiller. The stun blast. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Oh, he doesn't kill him. [00:40:34] Speaker A: He starts yelling at Booster to get his ass over there. Get over. [00:40:38] Speaker B: That's a cool panel, though, with the. With Booster, like, listening to. Talking to Skeets and then Brainiac 5 tapping him on the shoulder. [00:40:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a. It's an awesome panel. And he's. And, yeah, Booster's telling him we're Time Cops. And. And brain F5 is like, yo, we're not Time Cops is a different. [00:40:58] Speaker B: That's a totally different story, buddy. [00:41:00] Speaker A: And so now we're off to the next part of the story where everybody's going to go help everyone. Right? But they've got to have. They've got to negotiate this conflict out while Mr. Chiller's on the ground first and. Right. Make sure they get there just in time, not in. Ahead of time. [00:41:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:17] Speaker A: So Brainiac 5 explains that he needs to examine his ring, his force shield. He's got to figure out what's going on. And he's like, yeah, these are all from the 30th century and stuff. And Booster's like, the 30th century? What? Oh, and Ultra Boy is like, just give us a reason not to. Like, to take you back home and stuff. [00:41:41] Speaker B: I'll ride you like a skateboard all the way there. [00:41:44] Speaker A: Yeah, like, why were you trying to assassinate the President? And stuff? And then they keep talking and you're like, no, please let me save them. We've got cameras everywhere. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:41:57] Speaker A: A way to remain like. Like, way to, like, not be part of the scenery here. Jin is getting filmed by everybody. Boosters getting filmed by everybody. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It is like. It's. It's very. Oh, hey, we're all getting captured on film, but we're not supposed to. [00:42:18] Speaker A: Yeah. What? Dirk Jerkhead is standing down in the audience saying, what an awesome site. If only a guy could package that somehow. [00:42:25] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:42:26] Speaker A: I don't know why he's talking about Booster's package like that. It's. [00:42:29] Speaker B: I mean, maybe he's talking about all their packages. [00:42:33] Speaker A: I would just also like to point out that when Booster started, there was no cape. So my assumption is that Dirk created the cape so Dirk isn't, once again, an idiot. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Eric's like, you know what you need? You need a cape. [00:42:45] Speaker A: A cape. Well, we flipped the page. The Chiller is up, and Skeets looks like one of those weapons from that first season Star Trek episode where they go to the planet and the weapons Keep getting better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Robot weapons. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Boom. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Real bad. And Skeets is distracting him. The Chiller in Very Reasonable just yells at him to. To hold still. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Hold still. [00:43:12] Speaker A: And then he's like, screw this. I don't need to keep fighting with Skeets. I will just murder presidents. It's fine. And vice presidents and future presidents. But Booster is there just in time to deflect the blow. And the Chiller's like him again. Lucky the 1000 had a plan in case something went wrong. And all I got to do is press this emergency signal, and here come Cobra Commanders. Helicopters. [00:43:40] Speaker B: Oh, man, they're just flying out now. [00:43:42] Speaker A: What were the Cobra helicopters called? So there was a help from listener Jason here. [00:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah, Jason. Jason, chime in when you can. I know there was a couple different ones that. That they used. So give us the one that fits this comic the best. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Raptors. No, no, no, no. They're not Raptors. That's a bird. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Yeah, Vipers. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Were they Vipers? [00:44:05] Speaker B: Vipers were a designation. [00:44:07] Speaker A: That was their planes, right? [00:44:08] Speaker B: No, there was a designation for a soldier. The hiss was the tank. I'm trying to think. There was. Like I. Like I said, there was two different ones that I can think of, but I can't think of what their names were. So Jason will have to get back in Viper, I think, was the. I want to say that was the boat or moccasin. [00:44:32] Speaker A: Was the boat. [00:44:32] Speaker B: Oin was the boat. [00:44:35] Speaker A: It just says it's the helicopter. Cobra helicopter. [00:44:39] Speaker B: Oh, really? Cobra helicopter. [00:44:42] Speaker A: That's. That's a boring. [00:44:43] Speaker B: I got one. I got one downstairs. [00:44:44] Speaker A: I. Dragon Hawk XH1. Oh, that's a GI Joe. Yeah, that's the GI Joe helicopter. [00:44:51] Speaker B: That's the one that Wild Bill flies. [00:44:54] Speaker A: Well, this is disappointing. GI Joe fandom. Cobra vehicles. It looks like it's called a Cobra transport helicopter. [00:45:02] Speaker B: Oh, this is a tiny little guy. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Oh, okay. So the individual helicopters with the. That were open. Yeah, yeah, that's the fang. The fang. [00:45:11] Speaker B: Okay, the fang. [00:45:12] Speaker A: Okay, okay. But the helicopters like this were just called the Cobra Transport helicopter. That's not very exciting at all. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Not exciting. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Well, anyway, helicopters come in, they try to shoot ultra. Boy, that's gonna not work. Smart enough to be invincible. He'll have to switch to ultra speed here. [00:45:33] Speaker B: What if he, like. What if he, like. He was trying to switch and he's like. And he couldn't. He was like, oh, man, which one do I want? And he's like, too slow. [00:45:43] Speaker A: He would get shot. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Oh, that would be terrible. [00:45:46] Speaker A: They did write into Legion lore later that he. In the 1989 Dark Series. Thank you, Dark Knight Returns. [00:45:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:57] Speaker A: Five years later, Legion, they blow up a building with Ultra Boy in it. And he survives. And the argument is he just leaves on. He leaves his powers on invulnerable as his natural state. Okay, which makes sense. [00:46:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense. [00:46:14] Speaker A: So. And then he switches. But, yeah, there have been issues where he was switching between powers and got smacked or hit or whatever. Also, some people have speculated, how can you use super strengths without invulnerability? You would crush your hand. I mean, so there is some fandom that says he has a little bit of invulnerability all the time and has a little bit of super strength all the time and has a little bit of speed all the time, but then his powers kind of. He can direct them toward a thing. [00:46:49] Speaker B: Thing. He's directing it. [00:46:51] Speaker A: That's the fan. That's the fandom explanation. But, yeah. So anyway, Brainiac 5 says things are ancient. Ronnie is concerned. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Yeah. What do you mean, ancient? I'm a young man. [00:47:06] Speaker A: Well, they get the two into the vehicle. Brainiac 5 protects them with their force field. Booster goes through an entire helicopter. Yeah. And the Cobra. The cobra soldiers jump out. I mean, 1,000 soldiers jump out. Because they have to show them alive because. Yeah, it'd be really cool if they're really paying tribute to GI Joe. They'd have them going down in little parachutes in the background. Yeah. [00:47:39] Speaker B: But with laser blast. [00:47:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think the best part, though, is Skeets is like, hey, Booster, you should not, like, go through a helicopter. And Booster's like, yeah, I'm doing that anyway. And then he says, that felt good. And he's like, oh, incredible. That's cool. You can do things. It looks like Chameleon Boy has changed into a giant space dragon. Space dragon carrying the. Carrying away the. The limousine. While Ultra Boy is fighting with the other helicopter. He goes ahead and grabs the other helicopter and uses his ultra strength. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Oh, smash. [00:48:15] Speaker A: To slam it into the ground. I'm sure the pilots are fine. See, they're running away on the next page. Look at it. Yeah, they. [00:48:22] Speaker B: They got out just fine. They're not like, oh, man, I didn't feel great, but I'm fine. [00:48:28] Speaker A: And Ultra Genius is like, where are you guys going? Don't you want to stick around and chat? And they're like, no way, Jose. And he's like, jose? Who's Jose? [00:48:39] Speaker B: I don't know what you mean by that. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Is what he needs lessons from Skeets. About vernacular of the time. Yeah. It's like, yeah, well, anyway, we get back. He meant Ultra Boy grabs him and says he's going to take them to the Science Police. They don't know who the Science Police are because they don't have Science police yet. [00:49:03] Speaker B: What do you mean by that? [00:49:06] Speaker A: The chiller attacks Brainiac 5. He's like, you've ruined everything. Brainiac 5 is like a one defeat consequences. One of defeats consequences Assassin. He's like, you think I'm defeated? [00:49:21] Speaker B: Ha ha ha. [00:49:23] Speaker A: I'm gonna disappear. [00:49:25] Speaker B: And then he disappears. [00:49:29] Speaker A: And they're like a teleportation device. I wouldn't have expected that here. That means the Chiller is still around. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:49:38] Speaker A: Be used in future stories. I can't wait. [00:49:43] Speaker B: It'll be back and you'll be sorry. [00:49:47] Speaker A: Brainiac 5's like, yes. Although I'm disappointed that the Chiller escaped. Now though, once Chameleon Boy is returned, we can have a little talk. It's the Legion. So we've got to have a meeting. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Gotta have a meeting. [00:50:00] Speaker A: Gotta have a meeting and meetings. At least we kept that. Meetings are very important when it comes to the Legion. We've gotta have a meeting now. If they had it back at the clubhouse, this would be even better. At the head Legion hq. [00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:13] Speaker A: Meeting on the past. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:15] Speaker A: They have a page long dialogue with Booster Gold where they explain why they're going to let him stay there. [00:50:22] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Because it will alter their own history. Maybe they're not sure. They don't know what happens in the Hex series. It's referenced again. Booster brings it up. Maybe we should read that next time. The Legion all gets back in their. We could. The Legion all gets back in their time bubble and is like, goodbye, See. [00:50:45] Speaker B: You later, Booster Gold. [00:50:48] Speaker A: And. Yeah. And we're still Only on page 17. [00:50:53] Speaker B: How did you know that? Because this issue. [00:50:57] Speaker A: There was something important that happened in this issue. [00:50:59] Speaker B: They put page numbers in it for Dan. Everybody rejoice. It was. [00:51:04] Speaker A: They listened to the readers. [00:51:05] Speaker B: It was a miracle. Dan is happy. There's a true smile on his face. He doesn't know what to do with himself. [00:51:12] Speaker A: There's page numbers, page numbers. [00:51:14] Speaker B: He's. He's dancing in his seat. He's. He's a confetti. [00:51:18] Speaker A: I'm not dancing. But yeah, it's. Well, anyway, we get back, there's a White House gala get together. Ronnie introduces Booster Gold to the world, but he doesn't know what to call himself. So I'm spoiling the joke basically. But he's like, who are you? He goes, safe, young fellow, what did you say your name was? And he's like, booster. No, gold. And Ronnie says, the one, the only Booster Gold. And then Booster Gold is brought in because he was supposed to say gold star. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Yeah, gold star. [00:51:53] Speaker A: That'll be sad later. So. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Anyway, because those TVs and VCRs don't last very long. [00:52:04] Speaker A: Right? That was. Yeah, it wasn't story related at all. So. And then it begins and we flip and we get. Now you're ready for this one. Yeah, we get Booster Gold in an advertisement for Dusk cologne for men. [00:52:23] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:52:23] Speaker A: Dusk cologne number one, Nathaniel. [00:52:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's what you wear. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Interesting. Yeah. Remember Dusk alone to bring out the hero in your man. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Cut. [00:52:43] Speaker A: We've done the commercial. Everybody is mad and happy at the same time. Trixie looks irritated. A little bit. [00:52:50] Speaker B: A little bit. [00:52:52] Speaker A: But then just like ask it in the form of a question, very passive aggressively. What do you think, Mr. Davis? Does it have the stuff to be a good commercial? My dog is howling at the thought of that. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:53:09] Speaker A: And yeah, I don't know what's going on outside. We got a full on like deep belly howl going on in the house here. Well, anyway, Dirk's like hot. Boosteroo. You two were sizzling. I mean, we are talking nuclear meltdown. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:53:27] Speaker A: And he's like, terrific. Because little Monica here has a question. Monica's. That's his co star in the commercial is like, yeah, like, how are you coming at getting me that female lead in Booster the movie? So we're off to that. While Monica and Booster leave, Trixie is annoyed and Dirk is at the bottom of the page saying, good luck, kid. And good luck. Ha. I'm your bad luck kid, but I'm going to get Sarah back safely. That's his daughter, no matter what it takes. As you'll recall, he got a call from the 1000 and they mentioned that they had his daughter under watch. Yeah. And yeah. And we get to page 21 and we've captured. Let's see. In an homage to a book that hasn't gotten this far in the series yet, they've captured the two comic book creators. [00:54:31] Speaker B: No. [00:54:33] Speaker A: And they're going to take all the knowledge they have since they write the draw the Booster Gold comic book. Clearly they know everything about Booster Gold. [00:54:42] Speaker B: They know it all. [00:54:43] Speaker A: And see, it's just because the Dan Jurgens analog didn't want to draw all those characters in the teen book anymore. Now he's hooked up to the 1000 side trap machine. By. Who's this guy? Is it Dr. Frankenstein? Dr. [00:55:02] Speaker B: Beans and Franks. [00:55:04] Speaker A: And while he definitely. Oh, Dr. Shocker. [00:55:06] Speaker B: Dr. Shocker. [00:55:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it makes sense. It's a Dr. Dr. Frankenstein. Analog. We got Dr. Shocker here. Dr. Shocker. Another. Another villain. I can't wait to learn more about shocking. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Oh, well, then we have to read the next book. Well. [00:55:24] Speaker A: We get Cobra Commander at the bottom saying. And make sure it doesn't look like an accident. I want Booster to realize we are after him. They're killing these guys. [00:55:32] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:55:37] Speaker A: To be a comic book creator. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:39] Speaker A: Comic book creators always making the most money. Very strong. Life. Life expectancy. Exact. Yeah. [00:55:44] Speaker B: Making the most money. They know all the stuff. And they're going to get, like, trash. [00:55:50] Speaker A: And we get a page and we get Cobra Commander laughing and posturing. I mean, Diamond Face. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Diamond. Diamond. [00:55:57] Speaker A: Director. [00:55:58] Speaker B: Diamond. Director. [00:55:59] Speaker A: Director. [00:56:00] Speaker B: Diamond. [00:56:01] Speaker A: He will pay for thwarting me. Thwarting the master plan. Over 1000. He will pay with all he holds dear. And when it is done, he is nothing but a shattered husk of a man. He will pay with the last thing he will have left. His. We're laughing. [00:56:27] Speaker B: We're laughing. [00:56:29] Speaker A: Beginning the final disastrous Showdown with the 1000. Not for the timid, not for the weak. And it all starts next issue. I guess. I mean, I guess we have to read the final showdown. [00:56:41] Speaker B: The final showdown. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Betrayal with the 1000. Yes. Yeah. All right, we'll do one more issue. [00:56:50] Speaker B: That's how they get you, Dan. They got their hooks in you, and then now they got you. [00:56:56] Speaker A: On the next book, we'll do another. Okay, we'll do one more Booster Gold issue just for Travis. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Listener Travis. [00:57:07] Speaker A: Just for Travis. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Listen, listener, Travis, co host Travis, you know, friend of the podcast, Travis, Travis, co writer. [00:57:16] Speaker A: Extraordinary. Speaking of. Not friends of the podcast. [00:57:19] Speaker B: Yes. [00:57:24] Speaker A: Actually, I think this is a really good letter. So. Dear Booster Busters. Wowzer. What an explosive character. In fact, Booster Gold Number five was a bit explosive. There are a few things I'm confused about in the series. That was the issue with the twister, correct? Yes. Yes. One, how long after crisis does Booster Girl Booster appear? If my calculations are correct, he would have appeared in January. He seems to have been on Earth for a month before the story starts in Booster Gold Number One. This adventure takes place almost a month after the story in Booster Gold Number one. So he would have had to appear five months after the crisis, which was July. What a nerd. I just want to make sure. Who. Who in their right mind would sit there and analyze comic book Storylines and timelines like this. [00:58:16] Speaker B: I. I don't know, Dan. I. I don't know. [00:58:18] Speaker A: I can't imagine anyone that would do that. [00:58:21] Speaker B: I know nobody that would do that. [00:58:23] Speaker A: Because, honestly, what a moron. [00:58:25] Speaker B: That's a. [00:58:26] Speaker A: That's the time that this guy. I bet. [00:58:29] Speaker B: I bet. [00:58:30] Speaker A: I bet this guy hates page numbers. [00:58:31] Speaker B: And. And they probably. And they. And they probably have stacks of comic books in boxes. Just boxes of them. [00:58:38] Speaker A: They. [00:58:38] Speaker B: They probably put them in special shelving units or, like, drawers or. [00:58:43] Speaker A: Who would do that? [00:58:44] Speaker B: What would. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Well, anyway, number two. [00:58:46] Speaker B: Insanity. [00:58:48] Speaker A: Number two, how did Booster get so popular in such a short time? Three, where is Superman during all this? Well, we know because we do. He shows up next issue. Yeah, the next issue. I can't wait to see Booster get a speeding ticket and. Or somebody find out that he doesn't have a driver's license. Yeah, we've already resolved that with the IRS stuff. They figured that out. [00:59:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he's good. He's gold. [00:59:11] Speaker A: He does like the car. He's a big fan of the car. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Oh, who wouldn't be? It's a sweet ride. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, anyway, this is Timothy Jones from 5414 North 12th Street. [00:59:23] Speaker B: Okay. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Philadelphia, PA 19141. If you write. If you disagree with Timothy, you can reach out to Timothy at that address. I'm sure if you write there right now, you'll get a response. [00:59:36] Speaker B: Tell them what you think. You ever think. Okay, here's. Here's an interesting question for you. Okay. Back then, they would just put people's addresses right in the books. Do you ever think people got mail from other people that their address was in the book and then people just wrote back to that person and said, I can't believe you're a moron, or I really do agree with you, or whatever, and just wrote to that person that then their address is in the book and how. How, like today, in today's world, that's like, we have, you know, concerns and laws and other things like that. But back then, it was just like, I just put their address in there, you know? [01:00:15] Speaker A: Where. Well, I think. I think they did. I think that's how some fandom happened. [01:00:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:21] Speaker A: And here's. Here's somebody you would have written to. For example, there's a great letter in this. That's sarcasm. Is it tma a letter in this letter column? [01:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:29] Speaker A: No. Oh, dear Alan, I just picked up a copy of Booster Gold Number Five, and after reading it quite carefully, have a question for you. Does Mr. Twister have a sister? If so she's probably a twisted sister, right? Sorry for the punishment, but it just couldn't be helped. Elvis orton, Route Number 4, Box 120, Dawson Springs, KY 42408. And then you would have written to Mr. Elvis and you all would have become friends forever. [01:00:58] Speaker B: It's true though, when you, when you put it that way, honestly, I bet you. For friendships were forged, people met and hung out, the fandoms were created. This is before bbs, before mudding and other things like that. Because you know, the, the, the early Internet wasn't even a thing. Aim wasn't a thing. People weren't doing any of those types of chats. [01:01:23] Speaker A: You are, you are incorrect actually. [01:01:26] Speaker B: What do you mean? I mean I know there was some. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Board systems were up at this point. [01:01:30] Speaker B: I know there was. Yeah. But I mean do you think people were actually. They weren't as prevalent, I should say. They weren't. [01:01:38] Speaker A: That, that is true. I would have. You'd had numbers in the newspaper back and then I would call the number and log in with my modem and then I would talk to one person at a time. Or you'd leave things on a bulletin board. [01:01:48] Speaker B: Yes, but the only times the, the people that were using bulletin boards at this time were people that either had the, the, you know, the luxury of having a modem at home in this day and age or they were at a, a school or like a school as in like their, their high school had a computer with a modem or they're going to a college that had modems or you work somewhere that had a modem. But it wasn't something that was easily accessible to everybody. It wasn't until, and I would say. [01:02:22] Speaker A: Mine was probably the next year but as a 12 year old too, talking on a bulletin board system, it probably wasn't the best environment. [01:02:30] Speaker B: Definitely not. I mean like, but I was usually. [01:02:34] Speaker A: Talking to high schoolers that were like three years older or three or four years older than me. So. [01:02:38] Speaker B: Hey, what's going on? Have you guys did it? Yeah, I mean like I, I think I want to say. [01:02:49] Speaker A: Do we explain what a bulletin board system is? [01:02:51] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. [01:02:52] Speaker A: Probably. So a bulletin board system basically was you set up a global server at your house and that wasn't. [01:02:59] Speaker B: I mean that's. No to, to simplify it for somebody. Nowadays it's like having a group chat on your computer. But it was the real face. [01:03:05] Speaker A: But only one person could call at a time. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:03:09] Speaker A: So you'd call a number and you would log into that person's computer and you would log into their bulletin board. And sometimes those bulletin boards had games. One had a game called. Was it Trajan the Cave? [01:03:21] Speaker B: There was the Cave. [01:03:22] Speaker A: Adventure game. Yeah. Adventure game. Adventure game, yeah. And that one was really cool. There was another one I used to play that was like. I don't remember the name of it, but you created a fight. Well, I think that was Trajan, right? And then you'd, You'd. You'd have a fighter and people could beat you up when you weren't online and, you know, saying, I like that. They would also do role playing. Like, I did Car wars once. I did Strike Force Mortuary on a bulletin board system as well. That was interesting because I didn't know Marvel that well, but it was fine. It was just the. Basically, it was the Marvel system where you created a character and then did things. We did another one. It was in another bulletin board system. I was kind of a nerd, if y' all can't tell. It was another bulletin board system where we were doing a, like, basic. I call it like, Model UN sort of. But you were a country. Like a cross between Model UN and Risk, but basically you were a country. And I was definitely the youngest person playing because I, like, I was Canada, and I, like, wanted Canada to have nuclear weapons. And I didn't understand why that wasn't okay. Like. And so anyway, it was. There was a lot of things. And that evolved into what Greg is talking about. So then you had the paid services, right, that you dialed into, and you had, like, you had America Online. You had Lexus or. [01:04:37] Speaker B: Well, Lexus. [01:04:37] Speaker A: What was the one I. What was the one I had access to that was really expensive. Well, CompuServe was one. [01:04:43] Speaker B: There was a. Hold on a second. [01:04:45] Speaker A: There was the CompuServe we had. [01:04:48] Speaker B: Shoot. There was. [01:04:49] Speaker A: The other was the one I had after. What was the one I had after CompuServe? Like, early high school, late junior high. [01:04:54] Speaker B: I'm trying to think what the. The name of it was. It had a cool name because my parents had AOL and my uncle had the one you had. And it was like the. The difference. The difference. Honestly, people, it was night and day of. @ AOL1, AOL1, but the other one. And that's the worst part is, like, we don't really. We can't even remember the name right now, but it had. It was. It was a step ahead of everything. And it was. It was. [01:05:24] Speaker A: Better. It. [01:05:25] Speaker B: Did. The interface was better, the ability to do things. The GUI behind it was just Better. What you're. What you're dealing with on AOL was just such. So dummy friendly, you know, it was. It was bare, like, it was just like, oh, hey, cool. This is where you need to go. This is what you need to do. These are the 13 chat rooms that you can go into. This is the news. This is. [01:05:52] Speaker A: This. And. [01:05:54] Speaker B: It'S. It's right there on the tip of my tongue. It sounds like a bank. [01:05:58] Speaker A: Name. Yeah, I don't remember right now. I'll remember some other time. But. Yeah, well, and I remember, too, like, there were some even calling the bbss because I had a trash ad model three I was calling in with. It didn't have a backslash key. And so you couldn't do a bunch of the commands in the bulletin board system. Didn't have a backslash key. Yeah, I mean, people don't realize, like, what early computers were like. Oh, it was. I. Yeah, it was. It was. [01:06:30] Speaker B: Fascinating. I remember, like, when it was like. Puts it back in, like, 90. Was it like. I think I started driving. 93. 90. 93. 94. 94, because you're still driving me around. And 90. It was like that. [01:06:55] Speaker A: Summer. 94, I was. [01:06:57] Speaker B: Gone. No, I know. No, it was 94. I had. [01:06:59] Speaker A: To. I had to start driving. [01:07:01] Speaker B: Prodigy. Prodigy. Yes, it was 94 is when I had to start driving because you were gone. So. But I remember Paz found. He was on one of the boards and he started talking to some people, and we ended up going to meet them, and they were. They were at plu. And we show up and they're like, you guys are kids. Yeah, it was like, hey, what's up, guys? And it was just like these. It was like. Just like a bunch of college kids that we've been chatting with. They're like, go. [01:07:40] Speaker A: Home. Yep. Go. [01:07:42] Speaker B: Away. Go. [01:07:43] Speaker A: Away. Yeah, there was. It was a. It was an interesting world. Well, now we've had our talk about bulletin board systems. I did flip the page and we got to the Meanwhile. [01:07:57] Speaker B: Page. Oh. [01:07:58] Speaker A: Meanwhile. Because it looks like it's on the back cover this time. Adventures of the Outsiders, last new issue. Because it's going to go to reprints. Remember how I talked about the newsstand books going to. [01:08:10] Speaker B: Reprints? Oh. [01:08:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Later. Yeah. They meet the Marine Marauder. That sounds exciting. Can't imagine why that book went down. Blue Devil, House of weirdness is infested. The world is doomed. Oh, green lantern number 205, Carrie Limbo returns. Does she want guy or. How great. Did I mention I got this amazing gift for You. Oh, wait, it's over. [01:08:37] Speaker B: Here. Way over. [01:08:39] Speaker A: Here. For. [01:08:42] Speaker B: Christmas. Oh. [01:08:43] Speaker A: Geez. The one armed. [01:08:46] Speaker B: Bandit. I had. I had actually forgotten for a. [01:08:49] Speaker A: Moment. You were excited. You thought you were getting. [01:08:51] Speaker B: Something. I was like, oh, what did he get? Oh, the trickery people. He tricked. [01:08:58] Speaker A: Me. I was post Christmas episode reminder of the Christmas. [01:09:02] Speaker B: Gift. Oh, it came back to haunt. [01:09:04] Speaker A: Me. Infinity Inc. Number 31, a new costume and name for the Star Spangled. [01:09:10] Speaker B: Kid. Oh. [01:09:11] Speaker A: Hey. Yeah, it wasn't a great. It wasn't a great change. Oh. [01:09:14] Speaker B: No. By the way, that's not. [01:09:15] Speaker A: Good. Sergeant Rock number 412. Something with the haunted tank and stuff. Oh, yeah. And fighting superpowers. Number two tier right. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Here. Yeah. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. Oh, this guy right here. That guy saves Darkseid. Oh. [01:09:36] Speaker B: That'S. That's nice of. [01:09:37] Speaker A: Him. He must. He came all the way back from the 30th century. Apparently was written into another story because he looks cool. Got an action figure. Saved Darkseid somehow with his gun. [01:09:47] Speaker B: Hand. Gun. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Hand? Yeah. Did you know this? He has a gun. [01:09:52] Speaker B: Hand. I. [01:09:53] Speaker A: See. I don't think this one comes off, though. I probably shouldn't pull on. [01:09:56] Speaker B: It. [01:09:57] Speaker A: Dope. Yeah. Since Anne found this for me. That'd be Anne one. Anne. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Smith. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Owner of the Retro Emporium. I always find it. Found some other superpower. [01:10:12] Speaker B: Toys. I always find it funny when. When people come into the shop then and they, like, start talking to me and they're like, so this is your store? And I'm like, no, it's her store. So what? And I'm like, do you think. Do you think look at me, look at, look at me and look at the clothes I'm wearing. Do you think I could put this store together? Because I can't even put an outfit together. I look like I just, you know, like, rolled out of bed and, like, put a hat. [01:10:37] Speaker A: On. Well, and looking like you just rolled out of bed and put a hat on. Swamp thing number 53 crosses path with Batman in his search for. [01:10:46] Speaker B: Abby. That's got to be a spectacular Episode. [01:10:50] Speaker A: Issue New teen Titans number 25, all out warfare between the Titans and Hybrid. Do you think Hybrid knows Diamond. [01:11:00] Speaker B: Face? [01:11:00] Speaker A: Probably. They're. [01:11:01] Speaker B: Probably. They probably work. [01:11:02] Speaker A: Together. Warlord number 110. A series. I can't believe that went that long. Cool. Yeah, good for them. Yeah, good for Mr. Grell's series. You know, he's not honored anymore. Who's who? Number. [01:11:18] Speaker B: 20. Who is. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Who? Censor girl. Remember mentioned last episode? Yeah. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sergeant Rock. [01:11:28] Speaker B: Shazam. Oh. [01:11:30] Speaker A: Shazam. Don't they mean Captain Marvel? Shouldn't he be in the. [01:11:33] Speaker B: Seas? It could be. Should be. Isn't. [01:11:36] Speaker A: Though. Shadow Lass, Sarge Steel and more. It just. The times have changed so much. The Legion was so popular that when they listed the who's who's entries, two of the Legionnaires were in the injuries. Like. [01:11:48] Speaker B: That'S. It's so popular. We gotta put. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Him. Not. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Anymore. Not anymore. Sorry. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Everybody. Not anymore. But they. Hey, they are getting a new series. [01:11:56] Speaker B: Soon. Oh, that's. [01:11:57] Speaker A: Good. So, yeah, Joshua Williamson's actually writing it. Oh, they're getting a big gun writing their. [01:12:06] Speaker B: Series. [01:12:06] Speaker A: Yeah. That's kind of. [01:12:07] Speaker B: Cool. That is. [01:12:08] Speaker A: Cool. I mean, the last time I think I mentioned this already, the last time we had a big gun that Brian Michael Bendis write the series, it went really. Books were. [01:12:21] Speaker B: Published. Books were published. People. There was excitement for a. [01:12:28] Speaker A: Moment. Yeah, there was excitement. Yeah. The art was good. Yeah, there was really. [01:12:39] Speaker B: Good. Oh, I mean, if you got Joshua Williamson doing the. Doing the writing, I imagine it's going to be interesting and take a life of its. [01:12:49] Speaker A: Own. Yeah, you know, I. I kind of wish that. You know, D.C. has Dan Slott doing a book right. [01:12:58] Speaker B: Now. Yeah. What do you want him to. [01:13:02] Speaker A: Do? [01:13:04] Speaker B: Legion. Do you think he would do. [01:13:07] Speaker A: Legion? [01:13:08] Speaker B: No. So why would you want him to do a book he wouldn't. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Do. But he's doing Superman right. [01:13:14] Speaker B: Now. Yeah. [01:13:17] Speaker A: He'S. They also have like, Mark Wade won't do Legion anymore because he's already done it. [01:13:22] Speaker B: Twice. [01:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah, one was great and one was. [01:13:27] Speaker B: Okay. So you can't have those two. Who would you. [01:13:31] Speaker A: Have? I want Matt Fraction, actually. That's really who I. [01:13:33] Speaker B: Want. That would be awesome. Matt Fraction on. [01:13:36] Speaker A: There. I want Matt Fraction or Gail Simone on the. [01:13:39] Speaker B: Book. [01:13:39] Speaker A: Okay. Gail. I think my Gail has written. Written a few issues of Legion before she ended the Abnet and Lanning Legion. The Legion run back when she was. Her earlier writing days for the Big. [01:13:54] Speaker B: Two. [01:13:54] Speaker A: Okay. I love Gale's writing, but I would also say Gale might have the same issue that Mark Wade had of just being a Legion super fan and then trying to write the book. Matt Fraction, also a huge Legion fan, though maybe I should quit wanting the huge Legion fans to write the book. [01:14:14] Speaker B: So. Well, here's. Here's a question, then. You say. You say Matt Fraction, you say Gail Simone. What's to say? Why don't. I mean, if you already think of Mat Fraction, why don't you. Why not Kelly Sue? You don't. I mean, I think there'd be something. [01:14:35] Speaker A: Different. Yeah, well, I'm not saying no to that. I just. It wasn't. My brain always goes to these people who have written team books. [01:14:45] Speaker B: Successfully. Yeah, but I mean that also love the Legion. Yeah, but I mean, look at the work on Bitch Planet and look. [01:14:50] Speaker A: At. Probably should get away from. [01:14:51] Speaker B: That. Yeah, but. [01:14:52] Speaker A: I'm. I'm. [01:14:52] Speaker B: I'm. I'm being serious. So look at the work on Bitch Planet, look at the work in other places and see the. [01:14:58] Speaker A: Life. I don't think that's a bad idea. It's just the reason I shook my head is because I had not considered that at. [01:15:03] Speaker B: All. That's why I'm saying it. Consider something. [01:15:06] Speaker A: Different. But if you. I think people that can write large cast books and do them successfully. Yeah, yeah. And. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, yeah, that, that could be. [01:15:18] Speaker B: Awesome. I'll just keep saying until day night. [01:15:22] Speaker A: But. Well, it's just something that I hadn't thought about. Right. Like you just hit me. I. Kind of out of left field. Right? Yeah. My brain's always going. [01:15:28] Speaker B: To. I know, I know. I mean, but that. I mean, you. [01:15:32] Speaker A: Can'T. [01:15:33] Speaker B: I. In my mind, you can't say Matt without thinking about her as well. [01:15:37] Speaker A: So. But yeah, no, that's fair. Well, I can, because I know you. [01:15:42] Speaker B: Can. I know you can. But I mean, I've got a. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Book match here that's like. I keep turning away from the camera, which is a great podcast scene for the camera. But I have a whole book back here. Called Teenagers from the Future. Essays on the Legion of Superheroes. And Matt Fraction wrote the foreword for this book. Oh, wow. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Yeah. That's. [01:16:13] Speaker A: Good. So talk about a fan. Yeah. I mean, this is a whole book full of fan essays, but, you know, you're a big enough fan to contribute to that in that way. That's really cool. Just to give you some contacts, just to give you some context of why I was thinking of Matte Fraction. But anyway, enough of. [01:16:38] Speaker B: This. [01:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah. We need to end this. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Podcast. [01:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Because it is gone a long. [01:16:42] Speaker B: Time. It has. [01:16:42] Speaker A: Gone. Thank you for joining us for the whole ride of an hour and over almost 20 minutes. Hopefully you read the DC challenge, because while it definitely had its limitations, I think it's one of those historical pieces that's kind of fun because that's why we went through all those writers and authors. We've already mentioned the Retro Emporium on Meeker street in Kent, Washington. If you are. If you are listening. Whenever we record this podcast, you definitely should not go there right now. But since this Podcast will be coming out in the future. You should absolutely go. [01:17:11] Speaker B: There. [01:17:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It'll be after Christmas. Go get all. Take your Christmas gifts back that the people who just gave you random shit like a. Like this right here, and you never wanted it. Take that back to the store. [01:17:25] Speaker B: And see if they'll trade you something for. [01:17:27] Speaker A: It. Well, don't take it to the Retro. [01:17:29] Speaker B: Emporium. Oh. Take it back to any other. [01:17:30] Speaker A: Store but the Retro Emporium. Get money, and then go to the Retro Emporium and buy what you. [01:17:34] Speaker B: Want. There's. I don't think we could. I don't think there's anything we could do with that. I could just continue to collect just Guy Gardeners. Maybe that's what I'll. [01:17:44] Speaker A: Do. Yes. You just have a thousand Guy Gardeners. [01:17:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And then give them all back to the end. Everybody, if you want to make my year, the year 2026, something special, I am starting a Guy Gardner collection. You can send all the Guy Gardner action figures to me, and then I will do something special at the end of the year with them. So make that our mission. You just go and send them to the Retro Emporium in care of Greg, and we'll see what happens. Get to collecting. Dan's scared. You could see his face. It's. [01:18:26] Speaker A: Great. Okay. All right. That's. That. That seems like a great idea. Send Greg things that I don't like. Piles of them, and I wonder what's going to happen to them. Okay. And then, of course, I'm wearing the. The mark of certified Jiu Jitsu here. Yeah, you are for Jiu Jitsu. Lawyer Paul. You know, Jiu Jitsu. Lawyer Paul gave me the phone number for Night Legal, pllc, and then I promptly didn't write it down or remember it. [01:19:00] Speaker B: That's. That's what. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Happens. Because this whole time I've been telling you to contact Paul, but I don't give you any contact. [01:19:06] Speaker B: Information. You just say Night. [01:19:09] Speaker A: Legal. Yeah. So maybe I'll put the information in the podcast notes or. [01:19:17] Speaker B: Something. That is a good idea. That's swell. That's. That is a fantastic. [01:19:21] Speaker A: Plan. Also, shout out to Jason, who told me to make sure I'm reading my dcko. And even though this will be a good month after or three weeks after I read the second issues and whatever, am keeping up on that because I want to see what happens with the Legion and everything in that story and how it moves things forward. So, yes, Jason, thank you for reminding me and keeping me on track. I do have the piles of books I'm reading and keeping up, and we appreciate that. Big shout out to. I had a lot of shout outs lately. But anyway, reading Heroes and Friends by Jim Cornette right now. Nice. So he sent me one that was dinged up on accident and then sent me a new. [01:20:06] Speaker B: One. Oh, that's nice. [01:20:07] Speaker A: Sam. Good. Good. Yeah. I was like, that's cool. And, yeah. So he's not just a heel manager at. [01:20:15] Speaker B: All. He's a. He's a collector and a nice. [01:20:19] Speaker A: Guy. I don't remember if I said this last podcast, but he made fun of me on the podcast, though. Actually made fun of the mailman. He said. He said for anybody to be able to bend their packaging and damage the books, the he. The mailman must be the Incredible. [01:20:32] Speaker B: Hulk. Oh. [01:20:33] Speaker A: Hey. But indeed, the book came out very squished in the corner. I don't know if you could get it there. But just because he shouted out to us, I'm. To his million listeners who didn't shout my name or anything, but solved my problem and mentioned it on the air, I thought I'd mention his podcast here. You could go to the Jim Cornett Experience and learn all about wrestling and why people hate Donald Trump, among other. [01:21:00] Speaker B: Things. [01:21:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. And anything else we're advertising. [01:21:08] Speaker B: Today. I think that's. [01:21:09] Speaker A: Everything. Was there something else happening? Wasn't it, like. Let's see. It's an atmospheric. [01:21:17] Speaker B: River. [01:21:18] Speaker A: Yeah. When we recorded. [01:21:20] Speaker B: This. [01:21:21] Speaker A: Yeah. So now you'll know when. And atmospheric rivers make. [01:21:26] Speaker B: Rain. [01:21:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And when you talk about rain. Yeah. You think of cyborgs. Of course. You do call the movie Cyborg. It has to do with fighting. And when I go for a walk, the rain is like a. [01:21:47] Speaker B: Nemesis. [01:21:48] Speaker A: Yes. To my safety and my dog's happiness. Actually, my dog loves the rain, but that's a whole different story. And so then the atmospheric river comes back, and that means it returns. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Travis Webb and Brett Wadelli may finally have a Kickstarter launched that was supposed to launch in September of 2025 called Nemesis the Return of Alex Rain S. That. That you did. [01:22:40] Speaker B: Correct. Yes. [01:22:41] Speaker A: Correct. And all I needed was a natural disaster to happen for me to be able to remember the name. Good job. Thank you. That's it. That's it. We're done. That's. That's all we have. You can have the link to the Kickstarter, Follow it, and when it launches, you'll. [01:23:01] Speaker B: Know. Yeah, you'll. [01:23:01] Speaker A: Know. Cool. Is that. [01:23:04] Speaker B: It? Yeah, that's. [01:23:04] Speaker A: All. Okay. [01:23:08] Speaker B: Bye. See. [01:23:09] Speaker A: Y'. All. Later. Bye. Bye, everyone. Good. [01:23:12] Speaker B: Good. [01:23:12] Speaker A: Goodbye. Goodbye. I hope you had happy holiday times and stuff. [01:23:16] Speaker B: Bye. And a great new. [01:23:18] Speaker A: Year. I think this is right after new Year. [01:23:21] Speaker B: So. Oh. [01:23:21] Speaker A: Okay. Well, beginning of a new year timing. Wyatt. Yeah? Meet your resolutions and stuff. It'll be great. Yeah. Don't go to the gym. There'll be 9,000 people there. Bye.