[00:00:12] Speaker A: Greg.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: Welcome back to Funny Book Forensics.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Oh, thank you. Thank you for having me back on Funny book Forensic. Wait a minute. This is our show.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Thank you for clicking your keyboard all throughout the silent period that I was trying to preserve.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: Well, you were trying to preserve it, but I want to reserve it for keyboard clicking moments.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: I want you to have all those keyboard, that's helpful. Once again, we are going to have the best introduction podcast ever.
So we skipped a week, and I apologize because Greg was busy.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:00:52] Speaker A: Something about a Kickstarter and 24 hours of Star Wars.
[00:00:59] Speaker B: We tried to do 24 hours of Star wars for the Starlight comic book, Kickstarter, Starlight.com, and we got through a majority of the movies. There was some issues, and then Travis crashed out.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: You mean there were some issues, like, you got through the first three movies, and then you went, there are no.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: No, we watched the episodes. One, two, three, episode four.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Wait, you did what?
[00:01:38] Speaker B: We watched them.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: No.
Why are you watching them in numerical order? Because there's the story, and then there's a prequel.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: And then there's some other thing that's just the same movie as the originals.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: There was a meeting amongst the team, and there was a decision that was made to do this. And.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: You didn't fight. Well.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: It'S a democracy.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: What are you talking about? There's just no democracy. It's a business.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: Everyone had a vote and a vote. What?
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Stop giving people votes. It's your business. It's not a democracy.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Everybody got an opportunity to say their piece, and they wanted to watch the pod race, and then they realized that they didn't like Episode two, and they all left while I got up to go to the bathroom. And when I came back, I was the only one watching the movie with anyone in the video chat. So I had to watch the whole entire episode two movie by myself and talk to people. And then when they came back, open it up and say, what's causing all this?
All I have to do is untie this robe, open it up and say, what's causing all this? Exactly.
I found out that nobody wanted to watch that episode from the team. And then also that, by the way.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: That was no context. Ric Flair on Twitter, if you're wanting.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: To follow, it, was great. I have to do is untie this robe, open it up, and say, what's.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: Causing all I'm playing, even though, of course, my phone beeped in the middle of all that, because it's a professional.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I thought you were actually legitimately getting a phone call. So I was like, oh, hey, he's going to New ringtone.
[00:03:51] Speaker A: No, I just wanted to play Ric Flair during your story.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Totally.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: It makes as much sense as your story.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Well, no, and like I said, the best part was that at some point, Travis's live feed went down. So I was talking about the Kickstarter to people and telling them all about everything that was great and going on about day number one, the 24 hours, and all the amazing rewards you could get if you backed it on day number one for that two hour time chunk. And the feed was down, so I legitimately was just talking to myself in my living room.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Well, I backed it right away and got an amazing deal, which I felt like was a mistake.
[00:04:36] Speaker B: You probably did. You probably backed it at an amazing what? You got an amazing deal, which was a mistake.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Okay, well, I won't tell everybody what that mistake was.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: Oh, it was a giant mistake. Good job.
You left out. You found the secret hack.
[00:04:52] Speaker A: I got an amazing deal on Starlight number three.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: A lot of people got that amazing deal, and boy, oh, boy, there's someone that's running our Kickstarter that is kicking themselves.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: They'll no longer be running the Kickstarter. Is that what you're saying?
[00:05:12] Speaker B: Oh, no.
It was one of those things that it could happen to anybody.
It could happen to anybody, could have happened to me, could happen to Bret, could happen David, could have happened to Travis David.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: Oh, I see.
Clearly.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Could have happened to anybody. And it could.
[00:05:39] Speaker A: Assuming. I don't know who did this because have, like, is there some schoolhouse rock numbers episodes? I know what it is. They could get a lot of the count from SesaMe street.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: If they hung out with the count, they could learn. It would help. It would help. Yeah.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: I thought I was just getting some special, like, I got on there, like, in the first five minutes deal, but apparently not.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Yeah, just imagine, calculate that over a 24 hours period. Everybody that backed that.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: I've already done that for you, actually, and I don't want to report back to you.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: You're crying, aren't you?
[00:06:21] Speaker A: I just kind of ran an analysis compared to Kickstarter number two and Kickstarter number three. But you know what? Nobody cares about this.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah, nobody cares about this because they are here for Wonder Woman issue number five.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: But we just want to share some of our lives. What's going.
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're back and I get to speak to you again. Even though the Kickstarter is not wholly funded yet, it is so close. I'm still allowed to talk to Greg, now, which I wasn't for like two weeks. Not two weeks or even yesterday.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: We're in the first week. We're in the first week.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: We are literally yesterday, Dan.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: We are like $475 shy.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: 77.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Oh, 77.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Not that I need to be exact or anything.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Is it really $77?
[00:07:14] Speaker A: No. $477.
[00:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: You have 152 backers. There are 22 days left.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: And you are extremely close to being funded again. So if you are our one listener and you haven't and you want. Here. Actually, I have the pitch. If you are one listener and you want Greg to stop clicking his keyboard throughout the podcast because it's audibly making noise every time he clicks the keyboard. I can hear it every single time. Yes, I can hear. Click, click. If you want Greg to stop clicking his keyboard during the podcast, then you need to back starlight issues one through three. But it's released Starlight number three on Kickstarter.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: But you can get numbers one and two with the add on button if.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: You haven't gotten them yet.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: If you haven't.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: Or you could just choose one of the fine options that allows you to buy all three.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: Yes, you can. It's a great option.
[00:08:14] Speaker A: It is a great option, though. You can't have the cool bonus ones that I got by backing the original Kickstarters.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: Oh, I thought you're going to say by backing that super special deal.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: No, I am not terrible human. I went ahead and bought an add on when I did that.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: So I'm not horrible. You're only going to lose like $8 on me. Not.
Wait, never mind.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: No, I think we caught it before episode one finished.
[00:08:49] Speaker A: Well, that's why there was a nice.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: Person not named you that messaged us directly and said, wow, hey, I think you guys have a boo boo on your Kickstarter.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: I was at work, Greg.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: They were at work, too, Dan.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: I'm joking, you know. All right, well, obviously we have some challenges in our lives, but hopefully you all are doing okay. And Kickstarter Pod is done. And now we're moving back to funny book forensics. And quit clicking your keyboard.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: I had to cry out loud to get to Wonder Woman.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. I need to get you a non clicky click keyboard.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: I can't help it.
[00:09:36] Speaker A: You're the one that tells me about professional audio.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: And here we go. Click.
[00:09:44] Speaker B: Sometimes it sounds nice. It's like rain on a tin roof.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it sounds nice when I'm typing and everybody else in the house hates it. But anyway.
Yeah, so we are at Wonder Woman number five. Cover date, June 1987.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: And George Perez is insane.
[00:10:07] Speaker B: Oh, very.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: George Perez Drew, like, 5000 snakes on this cover.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: So many snakes, it looks like there.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: Are just strands of green. Right. When you first look at the COVID and you're like, why is Wonder Woman being attacked by weeds? But then you immediately notice this giant snake coming at her face. Right?
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: And that's wrapping around her. And then when you look further, every single one of those green things has a snakehead on it with eyes and a tongue. So he went through and drew every single thing in fine detail.
But it's insane.
How long did it take him to do this?
[00:10:57] Speaker B: I don't know.
Yeah, no, thinking about that.
The time and effort to draw all of those lines to make all of those snakes.
So many snakes. Too many snakes.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: And the fine details.
It's short press.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: And then whoever went through and colored them to find out which ones had to be the different colors and varying shades.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: It'S a lot.
Too many damn snakes.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah. On this mother effing cover.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: But we are. Well, anyway, Wonder Woman. Diana doesn't look super happy. I guess she is Wonder Woman now.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: She's Wonder Woman, and she is not happy.
She's engulfed in, like. She's like Indiana Jones.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: I would not be happy with this.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: On a train full of snakes.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: I'm not a snake fan.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Too many. Not cool. Nope.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Get them away.
When I was four years old.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:09] Speaker A: My mother, in her infinite wisdom, took me to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and then to Telaquat, Oklahoma, where my grandparents lived. My sister had just been born. And my grandfather took me into the.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: In Tulsa, Oklahoma, or in Telaquat, Oklahoma, and in this field. And we saw a snake, a rattlesnake. And I turned around and ran back toward the house. Like the snake was kind of far away from us. And my grandpa was like, where are you going?
And I still remember this vividly. And I said, there's a snake. I'm going home.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: I'm going home.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: And so that is my four year old mind with snakes. I just don't see any reason to mess with them. And these snakes remind me of those water moccasins that would drop out of trees in the south into your canoe. And I'm not impressed with these snakes. I'm impressed with the drawing. But I am not a big fan of snakes.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: Me neither.
Don't like them. Not a fan.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: I don't like things that can bite me and poison me.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: What if in and out trying to poison you, Dan. They just want to.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: I don't care. I don't care.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Just want to give you a hug. Sneaky hug.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: Great. A sneaky hug. That sounds great. Let's load up on snakes.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: Snakes.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: Let's give you a sneaky hug where we murder you by squishing you to death. That sounds fun.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
Just like just a big old boa constrictor hug.
[00:13:47] Speaker A: Well, we are on to the first page, and the gods are back.
[00:13:51] Speaker B: Oh, they are back. The gods are back.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: They seem more chill, but they also seem stressed.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Their faces are not hiding.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Oh, wait, these are not the gods at all.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Oh, they are not.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Paradise Island.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Paradise Island. Oh, we are wrong.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's hippolyte down there in the corner, and they're trying to speak to the gods. That's what's up.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: Just looks very godlike.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: Just drops.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: Did you, like, drop your keyboard on the ground?
[00:14:25] Speaker B: Now?
[00:14:26] Speaker A: I'm not going to click it. I'm gonna drop it.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: Dan hates the sound of the clicking, so I'm just going to drop the keyboard on the ground.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: I am just drilled in on the clicking today for whatever reason. But, hey, we're off. And now we're actually into the story. And clearly the story is keeping our interest because we're talking about keyboards and stuff.
But now we get to the gods. Okay, next page.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: And this page is epic.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: Apollo is trying to get his.
Trying to get. No, that's not even Hermes. I don't know who that is. Somebody is trying to get Apollo to wake up.
And anyway, I guess that's his twin brother. And since I know all about gods, I have no idea.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah, me neither. I got nothing. I'm looking.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: Artemis. Oh, that's Artemis.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: It's not Artemis.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: It's not Artemis. Well, anyway, maybe it is Artemis. Well, the gods are leaving.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Yeah, they're leaving.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: Okay. They're getting ready to leave summary.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: I'm blown away because this is all hand drawn. And you look at the texture on that panel, on that giant page, on all of that splash and all that stippling, everything all by hand, the swatch work.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah, the background looks, like plaid.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
So good.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: And it looks like it's, like, woven.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: No. And it makes that boat.
It just makes it pop right out.
It's got a good, great 3D effect. I'm like, man, this looks so good.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we are moving forward. They're getting ready to leave, but they think the faith Diana can maybe still save them. A couple of them have faith. Is that a good summary? Of that page.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good summary. They have faith. They believe that she's going to be able to take care of business. She's their salvation.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: And now we flip the page, and we're back to it's a man's world. Yeah. I'm not going to try to sing, but it won't be Nothing. Okay.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: Bad things are happening everywhere. The world is a mess.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: The Soviets have pulled out the summit because it's always the fault.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: Yep. Always.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: Yep.
That Nikolai Volkov.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: Bad dude.
[00:16:59] Speaker A: Always teaming up with the iron. Ridiculous. Yep.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Okay, no joke. I saw Sergeant Slaughter this weekend.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Where?
[00:17:10] Speaker B: At the Piallo Fairgrounds.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: Really?
[00:17:14] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: Why were you at the Piala Fairgrounds?
[00:17:17] Speaker B: We had to go pick up some toys. There was a toy show. There was a vendor there. We went at the end, and Sergeant Slaughter was doing things like photos and stuff like that with people.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: There was a toy show.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: It wasn't really a toy. It's hard to explain. It was a toy show, but it was, like, limited capacity, very minimal people, small amounts. Like, there was, like, 20 something vendors. Everything was, like, spaced out in the main. Not in the main hall, but one of the large buildings. And then there was Sergeant Slaughter and Greg sypes.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: Beast Boy and Michelangelo.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
Interesting.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it was kind of weird.
It's kind of weird because it was like, well, it's cool, but it's also like, this is not what I would want to be doing at any.
I'm here to pick up a box of stuff and get.
Yeah, so it was a quick, like, take my money, thank you very much. I'm here to get this stuff because you drove all the way over from the other side of the state, and I need to go. Oh, Sergeant Slaughter.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: Well, Sergeant Slaughter clearly was not doing his job in 1987 because there's war everywhere.
Or maybe he was doing his job well.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: He needed to get people in the Cobra clutch because that's more appropriate and.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: Not so than shooting them. Yeah, but he totally was part of GI Joe and had the little pew, pew, pew red lasers.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: And they just shot you, and then you slept for a little while and walked back. Those weren't Greg.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Huh? Greg, those weren't lasers.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Sure they were, Greg.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: Those weren't lasers.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: They, like laser.
Just like, they slept for a little while, and then they woke back up.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Well, turning the page.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: They dead for a long time.
[00:19:31] Speaker A: TuRning the page. We have the crews back together here, and we've got. Oh, hey, Edda's fine. Wait.
Last time we saw Etta. She was on the ground.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: Yeah, she looked like she was dead. I thought she was de.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: Not like I feel like we skipped some scenes. Now everybody's inside, and they're all chatting with each other.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: Everything's fine.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:19:55] Speaker B: A lot can happen in five minutes, Dan.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: And our new Greek friend here is explaining to Professor Capitalis that he startled Eda and she fell down.
Michaelis. Right.
Have we settled on. Yes, and everybody's getting together. There are 1234-5678 910 panels on this page, and there is, like, one book's worth of text. It's a lot, but what we get on this page is we learn that the talisman is important.
And they read about something from General Vol Tolliver's office called the Aries Project.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Oh, that sounds not good.
Anytime you bring up his name, it's like saying Candyman three times.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: Because you flip the page and you get.
I love this effect where you letter something and then do the art in the letters.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: And now we're back to Phobos.
Yeah, and it looks like Phobos is watching while his brother, the guy with all the snakes all over him. Which would make sense. Yeah. Is that we're calling him Snake Bose. No, I believe it's demos. Demos, but Demo. Snake Bose. Yeah. Has snake snakes all over him. And, yeah, it's looking.
But he said the moment when our fierce father's master plan will finally bear fruit. And now we see all these folks going to war, and so a bunch of people are being manipulated. All right, and this is fun, so.
Ah, and Phobos, though, he's looking a little jealous of demos down the corner.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: He's all like, for you, perhaps, brother Demos. But Phobos now feels lumbering failure in his war godfather's eyes, and I intend to do something.
He just looks so sad.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: He does look so sad. And so we're back to the wall of text again on the next page.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: So much, but story.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: Diana and Professor Capitalis are. Yeah, they're working out everything, so they're deciphering the know. They.
She Gets some rest. It goes to sleep. And Diana's trying to figure out who else can help her, because apparently, she doesn't sleep.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: Nope. She doesn't need it. She's like perpetual coffee.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: Perpetual. Apparently. Perpetual coffee. Just like a coffee stream.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: And Wonder Woman's going around thinking about everybody, about been for her comments on page nine, she would have been canceled on Twitter about EtTa. And then we get to Vicalus and find out about him a little bit she's kind of telling the story of these characters by walking through them.
She talks about Steve Trevor, and now she starts looking at this diagram, and suddenly she figures it out. And I love how to. Perez can track these expressions and then make every expression.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Good on the colorist, too. Because when she has that look, it's like the panels in the background go to like a base red alert kind of state.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it just looks solid, like the whole thing. And I love how everybody's faces are telling a different moment of what.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: Yes. And now we get page ten, and we get something going on. And the general is being accompanied, and one of the generals has taken over.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: A base, dirty dog.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: And the good news is, now we have switched from Wonder Woman to the Doctor Strange love comic adaptation.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Very much. Very true.
Going to ride a rocket because we.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Got one person taking over a base and ready to get those nuclear codes going.
I do feel like they are just taking lifting the plot of Dr. Strange love just a little bit on the Ares background story.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: I mean, why not side if it worked, it worked.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: I don't know that it worked.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Okay, but I like it.
I guess that's a catch 22.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Yes, we'll meet again.
Don't know how. Anyway, we're moving on and running over each other's jokes. And now she's discovered that she has to put the amulet in a mirror.
And this is just interesting. Now we get. Everybody's ready to go fight. Everybody.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Okay, yeah, everybody's ready.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: And so now we get the next page, and Wonder Woman's holding the amulet in the mirror. She touches it to the mirror, and then we get a bunch of Kirby crackle with everybody in the middle, and everybody's transported to Demos's lair.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Oh, man, I do have to say, I like how just he shows up ready to got. He's got a go bag full of guns like Rambo.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Nicholas is not messing around.
That's factual. Like, Steve Trevor's in his tactical turtleneck, which is white. Yeah, so it's not tactical. I guess it's not the Archer Turtleneck, but I'm assuming it's his tactical turtleneck.
[00:26:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Michaelus looks like Sergeant Rock.
[00:26:14] Speaker A: Yeah, in blue. Sergeant Rock or Blue.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah, well, he's know well.
[00:26:21] Speaker A: And you just wonder sometimes too. I feel like George Prez is just having fun, right? Because, well, you know, now I want to do some Kirby crackle. Now I want to do some war. Like, I just want to feel like I can draw, so. And of course, who created Sergeant Rock?
Who do you know?
[00:26:49] Speaker B: No. Who? Dan.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: Oh, I was wrong, okay? It was Joe Cubert, so even better. So now he's doing Joe Cubert and Jack Kirby on the same page, which.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah, nice.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: I got to say this next, like, album cover after album cover in this book series, this looks like a dio album cover.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: Just looks so badass.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: There's Kirby Crockle everywhere. Demos is hanging in the sky.
And then we get the next page, and now the Snake fight starts.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Snake fight is on.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: And, oh, permit me to introduce myself, Professor. I'm demo son of Ares, master of Duplicity and sovereign of the Serpents. And the Serpents go after Wonder Woman. She says, great. Hera Capitalis takes down the amulet, and Steve Trevor shoots a snakehead. So that's our page. But again, the art is amazing.
Now everybody's fighting. So it feels interesting, too, because you get to page 16, and it's like everybody's fighting, and now all of a sudden, they're fighting, and it almost looks like they're out of time, but everybody's firing a weapon, including Etta. I don't know what they're shooting at.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: Everything.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: Maybe the snakes.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Everything.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Yeah, they're just shooting at everything. Maybe the snakes and Phobos is getting jealous heRe. And then demos. Okay, demos. Now hacksism. So not only does demos have all these snakes, kind of like Medusa, right?
But his power isn't to turn people into stone, it's to give them fear. So, apparently, Etikanda.
And sometimes I have issues with scenes like this because I feel like we could have set this up a little bit better. I don't know why these folks are afraid of these certain things. And granted, we're in issue five, so I don't know that we have the backstory, but in good writing, I think it would have been nice in the first five, four issues to give us a hint somewhere. And maybe they did. Maybe if we went back, we'd found it, find that.
But I wish they would have given us a hint that these were these folks deepest fears.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: Or drew back to something. Right. So, like, for example, Edda has.
Clearly she's some reason she's afraid of being buried alive. I have no idea. I feel like it would have been cooler if that was like Julia Capitalis, because then it could have harkened back to the scene where all the houses were being destroyed, right?
[00:29:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: By decay. Right. So just a couple of days ago, Dr. Cappadillas almost has her entire world crumble on her. She's afraid of being buried alive right now, which would make total sense. Right.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: What you don't know is when Etta Candy was a child, she was buried alive as a prank.
[00:30:01] Speaker A: Sounds pretty terrible.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: It is.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: And I think that it's fun art, so I'll forgive it. But Steve Trevor's afraid of spiders, as should everyone be.
Julia is afraid of drowning, apparently, but Michael is afraid of cats.
[00:30:21] Speaker B: Oh, man. And this looks like five of goes West.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: It kind of does look like fiable goes west. I was just kind of thinking he was afraid of the musical. And if we were alluding to that in the 80s, that's hilarious.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: That is funny, too, because, I mean, it's very relevant and timely because people are still afraid of cats.
[00:30:39] Speaker A: Don't make me watch cats.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: No, and it's funny that you bring it up today while we're recording because it is the anniversary of the stage appearance on BrOadway of cats today.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Thank you so much, world, for giving us that beautiful piece of art right there. Cats.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Yes.
I own the Blu ray.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: Did you know the cats are different, each one? That's why they hate each other.
[00:31:11] Speaker B: I didn't know that.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: It's so insightful.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: It is.
I just like the music.
Well, it was a joke, because if you listen to the music, you would know the insightfulness.
I just like it for the music. I don't like it for the story, Dan. I like Red Dwarf for the music. Yeah, the music is great in that.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: No, the Red Dwarf. I like the cat in Red Dwarf.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: Oh, just for the cat? Yeah.
Well, not just for the cat. The rest of it's also.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: What?
[00:31:48] Speaker B: I'm just joking. I snag.
[00:31:57] Speaker A: Oh, my. Okay, well, anyway, all right. I mean, Athena's name, enough to this insanity, Wonder Woman starts going off. She goes and kills the cat, apparently.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: Punch reckon shop with snakes.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: They take out the spider, they get Julie out of the water and they unbury. Well, start to unbury. They go to grab Etta, and all of a sudden Phobos is back and he's going to take care of things.
[00:32:25] Speaker B: Oh, man.
Trouble.
[00:32:27] Speaker A: And Nicholas starts shooting at Phobos. Because if you're in the military, that's what you do.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: Yeah, makes sense.
[00:32:34] Speaker A: You shoot things, which is not okay. Like, Wonder Woman is attacked by every snake in demos'beard.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Oh, man, all the snakes.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: That's, like, terrifying. I'm not a big fan of this snakey D Snake stuff.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Snake beard.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: But then in the most awesome turn in events on page 19, Wonder Woman manages to grab her tiara and she throws it at Demos. It cuts all the snakes and it takes his head clean off like a razor. Even says the razor edge tiara strikes swiftly and cleanly. Now, how does she wear a razor edge tiara on her head? And how is that practical?
[00:33:27] Speaker B: She wears it very carefully, Dan. Very carefully.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: I mean, I don't mean to be identifying holes in the story, but this is funny book forensics.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: She is an Amazon. She is skilled in a lot of different things that we as humans from the man's world don't understand. And wearing a razor sharp tiara might be one of those thingS. She has healing regeneration powers, has razor sharp tiara skills. Yes.
[00:33:59] Speaker A: Okay, that's. Guess what we needed.
I guess Superman could wear a razor sharp tiara. Yeah, unless he was under a red sun.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: True.
[00:34:09] Speaker A: And we'd be finding all out about what happens to Superboy under a red sun this week if somebody had showed up to do the podcast.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: That's not me or you. Someone else, undisclosed.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: Well, we'll work on that. Maybe for next week, but know, keep.
[00:34:29] Speaker B: Messaging me saying, did you go start yet?
[00:34:33] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: I'm just joking. I'm just joking.
[00:34:36] Speaker A: Well, anyway, they didn't. Wow. Well, we'll catch up with said person soon.
I shouldn't throw too much shade because it's like our only listener.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: I know.
It was going to be a special moment. We bring our one listener on for a podcast moment and then life gets crazy sometimes. I mean, my life got crazy last week with Kickstarter and other life stuff.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: Was it like this, though? Was it going to be like this since this is the 80s? Was it going to be like this.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: With a snake beard chasing me and I had to.
[00:35:11] Speaker A: No, I was going to be like. It was going to be like this on this week's very special episode of Family Ties.
[00:35:20] Speaker B: No, it wasn't.
[00:35:22] Speaker A: Not at the.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: It was more like Valerie. It was more like an episode of Valerie season one where all of a sudden Valerie dies and then it changes to the Hogan family.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: Sandy Duncan.
[00:35:38] Speaker B: What?
[00:35:38] Speaker A: And it changes to Sandy Duncan.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we get Sandy Duncan and then all the memories of Valerie disappear because somebody left a light on in the attic and it set a fire.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: That was a lot weird. I'd forgotten about that until now. And that was weird. Yeah, we'll just keep going. It's kind of like, well, we did that recently, though, in pop culture. It's like Roseanne goes on a Twitter fest, so we'll just delete her from the cast show.
Yeah, I was about to say you knew about that too. They did the same thing, right? Went from Roseanne to the Connors.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: She got Valerie.
[00:36:19] Speaker A: Yeah, she got Valerie there. You.
[00:36:24] Speaker B: Know, it happens sometimes. People, they do things in their own show. They do things and they disappear. And then you got to bring in that lovable ant character and make them a little more prominent. And that's exactly what happened on both shows.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Well, the good news in this comic is demos. His head goes flying into a bunch of Kirby crackle.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:36:49] Speaker A: Which means it's going to be gone.
Now we've got both halves of the spinning thing, of the round thing.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:58] Speaker A: Of the amulet, I can say that. Harmonious amulet.
And Phobos is still hanging out in the background and he's like, I must flee while I can. So much for all that big talk.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, oh, crap.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: And Steve Trevor consoling Edda down in the corner, which I find interesting from a character development standpoint.
We've got Nicholas and everything and Wonder Woman sneaking down in the corner. I'm blessed to stand by beside warriors such as these. So establishing her not just presence as a person of peace, but also as a warrior that can murder snakeheads. Yeah, that's cool.
And they put tough.
Well, they put the amulets together and then they end up in front of a whole bunch of soldiers.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: Oh, man. It went from bad to something bad.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And the soldiers like, hey, we're going to put all these folks up against a wall because they're traitors and we're going to shoot them.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: This is fantastic.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Not good.
[00:38:10] Speaker A: Not so good.
Well, then we flip a page. And not only that, but the good general is now firing off all the nuclear weapons.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: Why?
[00:38:25] Speaker A: As he's not from Easy Company.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: And now Wonder Woman is covered in snake bites, which I am not a fan of, by the way.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: No.
Pretty good.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: And now here's Aries.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: Oh, bad dude. Bad dude.
[00:38:48] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, it's a bad guy because he has Kirby crackle in his eyes.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. In his eyes.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: That is what. Yeah, yeah. And that takes us to the end of the issue. We will go on to issue six next time with the Aries onslaught.
So tear this one down for me. I feel like we had a lot of action in this issue. We moved through the story, so it's almost like she's going through.
She beat Phobos. Right? So Aries had a wrestling stable with his sons.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: She defeated Phobos. Right. And Decay.
Or did Phobos ever really get defeated? I guess Phobos kind of had decay fight for him.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Right. Yeah.
He sends in decay. Decay doesn't take the title, doesn't win the match.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: Aries has the title. Aries has the title, but they're trying to take out the challenger before they get to Aries. Right. It's classic pro wrestling. Right.
He does not get it done. And Phobos was like her kind of manager.
Yeah, he was like her classy Freddie Blassie. Yeah.
[00:40:05] Speaker B: And that's when his brother was like, no, get out of the ring. You're not so good. But we all thought, oh, he kicked him out into the hell dead. You know, it's just out of the ring.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And then after know, Dimos steps in, in that number one contender match. And of course, we know Demos is going to lose because when you have a baby face and a heel and number one contender match, the heel always loses if the champion is a heel. Otherwise, you'd have a heel versus heel. We wouldn't want to have demos versus Aries. That kind of defeats the purpose.
[00:40:38] Speaker B: True.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: And so demos gets taken out and pretty violently taken out. I mean, this is a pretty good takeout. I think he's going to be out of wrestling for a while.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: Yeah, no, this was definitely like, bring. This was foreign object brought into the mean. They both had foreign objects, if you think about it. I mean, he had nothing but snakes.
And Wonder Woman's like, no, not doing that well.
[00:41:10] Speaker A: At a point, the babyface gets tired of the heel cheating and takes care of it. So that's basically what happened, right?
[00:41:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:17] Speaker A: Okay. And now Aries appears, and so we've got soldiers, war, Aries. What could possibly go wrong?
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Oh, a lot, I'm sure.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: Well, we'll know next time.
[00:41:33] Speaker B: This turns into, like, a bigger tag team event when you think about it.
[00:41:38] Speaker A: Well, Wonder Woman has, like, a stable, too, but they're good guys, so it's okay. Yeah, it's okay when they interfere.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: It's a smaller stable, though.
That's true against a much larger one.
[00:41:53] Speaker A: Well, on that note, I think we're probably done with the story and with all the banter at the beginning, we're probably close to wrapping up this episode of Funny Book Forensics, unless you have something you want to plug or add.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: I think I talked a lot about Starlight at the beginning. I don't think the one listener wants to hear about
[email protected]. The Kickstarter that's ongoing currently right now, so close to being funded that it's not even funny. And Travis is going to eat a bunch of stuff this time around, which is, I find hilarious because usually I'm the one that does the food challenges, but he's going to actually step up to the plate, literally, and fill his face with a bunch of foods.
[00:42:37] Speaker A: Well, I am scrolling through right now.
Spoiler country are on the mothership here. And of course, we want to promote the mothership and spoiler country. Of course, if and when we're granted a special appearance by the Lord of Spoiler country, we're going to talk about Jim Shooter. And about 21 days ago, there were three interviews with Jim Shooter on Spoiler country, along with hundreds of interviews from other comic creators. So we recommend that you go check them out.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Love the one with Jimmy Palmiati. It was like a month ago already, but Jimmy Palmiatti was talking about why him and Amanda Connor are now doing a lot of Kickstarters and independent books instead of working for the Big three.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: Oh, wow. That's cool. I mean, to get that insight and find out all the cool inside track information, where is that at at spoiler country?
[00:43:30] Speaker A: That is at spoiler country in the spoiler verse. And contrary to popular belief, spoiler country is not about spoilers necessary. It's just like lots of conversations with really cool stuff.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: And sometimes there might be a spoiler, but sometimes maybe not.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: And Dan is also wondering how much maybe I need to go to the spoiler verse more often because all of a sudden, Jupiter's legacy just popped up. And now I'm wondering if I need to go dig through my comic book boxes to seal that up in plastic and sell it.
[00:44:02] Speaker B: You might. Jupiter's legacy.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: On the Flicks already?
[00:44:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's there.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: I don't know, maybe we should be reviewing those comics.
[00:44:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Jupiter's legacy.
[00:44:15] Speaker A: It was a comic.
[00:44:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a comic.
[00:44:21] Speaker A: It was a comic.
And of course, you've got other pod. You, not me, have other podcasts on the network.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Oh, this is true. Nerds from the Crypt.
We haven't laid down an episode this week. Hiatus.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: Because you were busy.
[00:44:39] Speaker B: Well, I was busy. And then also, David.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: Wait, you were going to lay down a podcast for them but not for me?
[00:44:48] Speaker B: When you were.
See where we saw.
He is a professional podcaster who has.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: I knew you were going to go for that. He's a professional. I get it.
[00:45:03] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say he's a professional podcaster who has multiple podcasts, who lays down podcasts by himself, often with the help of myself or David.
[00:45:14] Speaker A: Do that.
It would be awesome.
It'd be like when Garth was left alone on Wayne's World.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: I know, right?
[00:45:26] Speaker A: Hey, guys, we're talking about.
Well, you have nerds from the Crypt, and I believe you also have narrative gunslingers.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Right? This is true. Well, I was going to say unders from the crypt.
He did lay down a podcast without either David or myself and talked to a recent Kickstarter. So you should go check that out and see what's going on there, because that campaign is going on currently right now, concurrently with the episode that's been released. So you should go check it out.
[00:46:09] Speaker A: Another thing I was just going to say. Can I add something before you add something, in other news, in honor of our podcast today, I've just been informed by HBO Max, through an email that Anaconda is now available on Max. So.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: Really?
[00:46:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: Was it because we're talking about snakes and then all of a sudden Anaconda pops up in your.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: I believe that I'm being listened to. Yes.
[00:46:30] Speaker B: That is crazy. Anaconda, a really good movie. It's got believe Ella Cool J in it.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: What?
[00:46:38] Speaker B: Anaconda.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: It has LL Cool J.
[00:46:41] Speaker B: Does it not have Lo Cool J?
[00:46:43] Speaker A: I don't know, because I've never watched Anaconda.
[00:46:45] Speaker B: Oh, wait, am I getting.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: I think you're missing Ice Cube.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: No, there's the Shark movie Lo Cool J is in, and then he sings the song about the shark fin.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: Okay, well, anyway, go ahead and plug your pluggable while I look this up here.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: We're nursing the crypt. We will be actually in the near future. We're going to have a couple of great guests on speaking with some. I was right.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: It is Ice Cube.
[00:47:20] Speaker B: It is Ice Cube. And what's the other one? Deep something.
[00:47:23] Speaker A: Okay, listen to this deep cut of actors in this movie. Okay, are you ready? Jennifer Lopez, John Voight, Carrie Warhor. Who is the one? I don't know, but should Ice Cube and Owen Wilson.
Wow. Danny Trejo is in this.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: A. That's a. That is a lot of talent. All in one movie.
[00:47:51] Speaker A: It's a lot of talent. I just don't know why they didn't have any writing talent.
[00:47:56] Speaker B: Well, it's a lot of talent in one movie. It's something that should be watched.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: I've got this idea. A giant snake is going to attack.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: People while you're in the jungle on a boat.
Jungle boat on narrative gunslingers with Travis Webb from the Kickstarter of Starlight.
We're actually going to be talking to a couple folks upcoming. We have, I want to say, Ron Randall on Deck from Randall?
[00:48:31] Speaker A: Yeah?
Guess what I just got in the mail.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: What did you just get in the mail?
[00:48:36] Speaker A: I got Trekker the Complete journey, Volume one, in addition to the newest Trekker Kickstarter book.
[00:48:43] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: It is freaking beautiful. I wish walking away from the microphone is not a good thing on the podcast, but I wish I could show you how beautiful this book is here.
And, yeah, when I got the last Kickstarter, I decided just to kick in a couple of extra bucks and get the hardbound version of the whole complete. So, yeah, it is nice.
[00:49:06] Speaker B: That's awesome.
Ron is awesome. So I'm really looking forward to getting a chance to talk to him in the upcoming weeks. And then also, we'll be interviewing Neil Fisher.
[00:49:23] Speaker A: Outstanding.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: So if you're not familiar with Neil Fisher, then you should check out the narrative gunslingers and see what we're going to be talking about there with both Neil Fisher and.
Well, yeah, we talk about stories and other. We.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: Stories. On narrative gunslingers, you talk about stories.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: I know, right? What?
[00:49:50] Speaker A: Okay.
That's awesome. Well, I'm glad. So, we've had a lot of chat about our lives going on with the Kickstarter. We got a nice issue in today, and we got some pluggables in at the end. And so, yeah, do check out a lot of this stuff. It's a lot of fun. So, with. That's it, though, probably we should wrap this thing up. If you click that keyboard one more time, I'm going to reach through the electrical wires like the atom when he goes through the electrical lines and pop out the other end and pull your hands off.
Absolutely killing me.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: I'm sorry.
[00:50:30] Speaker A: And on that note, click.
That ends this clickable version. See what I did there? I did this clickable version of Funny book forensics, and now Greg's gonna stop recording.
