Funny Book Forensics 398 An Existential Discussion

Episode 398 June 30, 2025 00:57:41
Funny Book Forensics 398 An Existential Discussion
Funny Book Forensics
Funny Book Forensics 398 An Existential Discussion

Jun 30 2025 | 00:57:41

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Greg and Dan review Madrox #3. Madrox is in a philosophical argument with themself!   We also recount our recent adventures at Summercon, including encounters with notable comic creators like Dan Slot, Joelle Jones, and Chris Werner. Join us for another fun show!

Writer: Peter David; Penciller: Pablo Raimondi; Inker: Andrew Hennessy; Letterer: Vc Cory Petit; Colorist: Brian Reber; Editors: Andy Schmidt and Nicole Wiley

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00:00 Introduction and Madrox Discussion
00:30 AI and Meme Culture
01:17 Dan's Instagram Journey
02:15 Wrestling Talk: AEW and Chris Jericho
12:12 Comic Book Drama: Madrox in Trouble
28:19 Sheriff Bishop in Mutant Town
29:05 Madrox' Dilemma
29:44 Advertisements Galore
31:47 Jamie and His Duplicates
36:18 Comic Book Nostalgia
46:26 Comic Show Recap
55:24 Final Thoughts and Plugs

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[00:00:06] Speaker A: Okay, good. [00:00:06] Speaker B: Yes. Mad Rocks. [00:00:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:00:10] Speaker B: As you like to say. Mad Rocks. Number three. Mad Rocks, by the way. [00:00:14] Speaker A: Yes. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Compared to that first issue cover. Is this cover or not? Awesome? [00:00:17] Speaker A: This is awesome. There's so many Mad Rocks on this cover. I don't even. It's like. It's like one of those Homer Simpson memes where Homer's like, at the bar and everybody's got like, switch twos and he. [00:00:32] Speaker B: What? [00:00:33] Speaker A: And. And. And he doesn't have one. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Have you been playing with AI Generated? [00:00:38] Speaker A: No, it's like, it's. It's. [00:00:39] Speaker B: John Oliver did a whole show about that. How terrible it is. [00:00:44] Speaker A: Dan does not pay attention to current meme trends. [00:00:48] Speaker B: I don't understand what you're talking about at all. [00:00:50] Speaker A: It's cool, dude. I get it. It's fine. [00:00:53] Speaker B: Why do I care about current meme trends at all? [00:00:55] Speaker A: It's cool, Boomer. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Really, Because like, like one. I would argue that memes are for boomers, minions. All the kids are generating AI Things to share with each each other. [00:01:13] Speaker A: No, no, not the real. Not the real ones. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So you're. You. You know, by not paying attention to it and reading comics. Hey, look, I'm on Instagram now. Yeah, not just the show. Dan himself is on Instagram now. I've posted like one thing. [00:01:34] Speaker A: What's your Insta handle, Dan? You don't want anybody to know. [00:01:37] Speaker B: Dan Shabbat. Same as Facebook. [00:01:44] Speaker A: Instagram, everybody go follow me. [00:01:46] Speaker B: We'd rather you just follow funny book forensics on Instagram. [00:01:48] Speaker A: If you want to see cool dog pictures and like walks and stuff like that, that's where. That's what Dan be posting. Or. [00:01:57] Speaker B: There'Ll be lots of Juliet pictures, that is. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker B: And where I go hiking and stuff like, this is my. My Instagram is not exciting for most comic book people. [00:02:07] Speaker A: It's a travel log, if you will. Or it's a travel dog. [00:02:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, yeah. And I went on a walk right before this podcast, which is why we started late, even though you don't know. We started late because we're out of time, because it's not a live podcast. But we're telling you we started late because I went on a walk with the pub and then Greg and I talked about AEW wrestling because we're going to be there. Yeah, but we're already have been there. Been there. Yeah, we'll have been there. And do you think we'll see the Incredible Melting Jericho? [00:02:40] Speaker A: You know what? I have a sneaking suspicion we might actually see. He wasn't there on Saturday. So he might be there on Wednesday. [00:02:49] Speaker B: Well, he wasn't there on Saturday because we saw the incredible melting Jericho at the summer. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So I. I'm imagining they let him have a few days of rest so that maybe his body could reabsorb some of the melt and then he can. He can reconstitute himself into a. A fully third putty and then become the fully formed Jericho for the show. [00:03:10] Speaker B: What do you think? Clay Face or Mr. Fantastic? [00:03:13] Speaker A: Clay Face. Yeah, Clay Face. 100%. [00:03:16] Speaker B: And just his body, his. His hair and his face looked fine. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, hair and face look fine. I mean, he has to put his body back. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Now, admittedly, he's older than me. I get it. It's tough. Like, times are tough. [00:03:26] Speaker A: He's a. He's. He's an aged wrestler. Like the movie the Wrestler. [00:03:30] Speaker B: He's an aging rock star. Did you see the Wrestler? He is not in the shape. [00:03:35] Speaker A: He's not in the shape of Mickey work. No, no, I know. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Mickey Rourke was shredded. [00:03:41] Speaker A: He would like what he'd been eating. He was doing the hot dog diet because he was. [00:03:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. I wonder how old was Mickey Rourke when he did the rest? [00:03:50] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:03:51] Speaker B: It's a good question. What, like. Yeah, I mean, I got to give Chris Jericho some credit, though. I keep calling him, you know, I keep making fun of his body, which is mean, right? [00:04:02] Speaker A: Shouldn't body shame Dan Chris Jericho? [00:04:05] Speaker B: You know what? You can write the post, write to funny book forensics and tell me that I shouldn't body. He is. No, he is. He's not. He's 54. He's only. He's four years older. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Four years older than you. But I mean, it's. It. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Now you start there doing moonsaults and stuff now that's pretty impressive. [00:04:20] Speaker A: It is super impressive. I mean, I think we're going to see some amazing aerial acrobatics and some. Again, awesome. [00:04:29] Speaker B: His build weight is 6ft tall. We walked by him. He's no taller than I am. [00:04:33] Speaker A: He's. He's. He is. That's the crazy thing is like, I mean, these. And even Anne said this because, like, my wife went with. With my wife acquired tickets for the Saturday AEW filming and. [00:04:48] Speaker B: What? [00:04:48] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Yes. She did. Yes. Dan. I mean, what. Well, I mean, we. So we went and. [00:04:55] Speaker B: And I wasn't invited. [00:04:56] Speaker A: Well, she only got two. I'm sorry. There was a. You know, it was also like a mess up at the box. So, like, they weren't even there. Like, when we showed up. It was A whole thing where they had to call the guy and he had to come out and they had. [00:05:09] Speaker B: To call the guy. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And they're like, oh, it's you. It's. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, they're good. [00:05:13] Speaker B: What if he called multiple Mad Rocks? [00:05:15] Speaker A: Multiple mad Roxes? Yeah. But she was like, these guys look so small because, like, we're like, you know, they are. Yeah. [00:05:22] Speaker B: All the big guys are in the other. Yeah, well, that's the thing. You run out of. They run out of. I, I run out of big guys. I'll say they run out of big guys because, well, they do. I, I, Because I will say that is a criticism I have of. Aw. Right? Like, I mean, do I appreciate that Chris Jericho can still go. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:05:42] Speaker B: Would I rather have Chris Jericho out of the ring and just being a manager and have younger performers get a chance to go. Yeah, a hundred thousand percent. Like, one of my biggest concerns with, like, again, Chris Jericho, you know what? You be. You make your money, you do your thing, but when making your money hurts the overall product, that's when I start to think to doubt the product. And I will say, like, I'm gonna be critical of AEW for a second. I know you just went and you're excited. [00:06:13] Speaker A: I'm excited. [00:06:16] Speaker B: But there is a lack of believability in that product right now. And I know you're not supposed to believe in professional wrestling because it's fake. [00:06:22] Speaker A: What? [00:06:24] Speaker B: I know that, but it's like a movie. I want to be able to suspend my disbelief. If you put some, you know, 6 foot 4 hulking monster in there, who's 20 years younger than Chris Jericho against him, it's really hard to suspend my disbelief and get real excited about the match. Right. So, I mean, I honestly, too, I have this. So I will levy the criticism the same way WWE at WrestleMania put on a match between John Cena and Cody Rhodes, and it was God awful. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:01] Speaker B: And the reason it was God awful is because both of them are talkers. And I think Cody Rhodes is probably a better performer at this, you know, this stage. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:10] Speaker B: John Cena is not a young man anymore, and it's hard for him to move around and his hips are bad. And, you know, it's not as much fun to watch John Cena do that. And it's more fun to watch John Cena talk. The problem is what happens when he gets in the ring. [00:07:28] Speaker A: He's got to move. [00:07:30] Speaker B: And John Cena is only 48, and John Cena is still in good, you know, mostly good. Muscular shape, but you can tell like that the age is happening. And I'd rather see John Cena right now in Peacemaker Season 2. [00:07:43] Speaker A: And other things like the. What was the thing he was. [00:07:47] Speaker B: He did with Marky Mark and voicing over all of the Honda commercials. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Then is it not hilarious when you're hearing a Honda commercial and John Cena's voice is talking about the Hondas? [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like when he's your like, fake best friend and he just shows up at your job talking about. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that movie was. [00:08:07] Speaker A: It was. I thought it was hilarious and did not like it, but I liked it a lot. [00:08:12] Speaker B: I thought it was funny. I could feel like you and Maker is funny. [00:08:15] Speaker A: I feel like you and I would have a fake best friend like that that would just show up. Oh God. We do. [00:08:23] Speaker B: We do. [00:08:24] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Well, it's not say his name or he may appear. [00:08:27] Speaker A: He may appear. [00:08:28] Speaker B: I believe in Johan Dream. [00:08:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Wait, that's not his song. [00:08:35] Speaker B: But I mean the. The sad part is my favorite right now of the comedic things is Joe Henry. [00:08:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Hendry. Yeah. And he of course wrestles for WWE slash tna. So we will not be seeing him. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:46] Speaker B: But I mean, all the songs he does to make fun of people are great. [00:08:50] Speaker A: We might see the outrunners make a reprisal on Wednesday. I don't know. I'd be super. [00:08:54] Speaker B: Look, we're going to go and have fun. I mean, I'm going to have a couple beers and chill out. A couple of other drinks. Yeah. And we have to drink them early because I got to drive. [00:09:02] Speaker A: Ye. Well, we'll. We'll. We got a little bit of a walk. There's a couple stops on the way and then we'll get there and have. [00:09:07] Speaker B: Like, oh, got to be there at like 4:30. [00:09:10] Speaker A: You know it. It's 5:00' clock somewhere. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Well, anyway, well, we'll. We will have been at the Showware Center. [00:09:21] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:21] Speaker B: By the time this podcast. Yeah. Now I will question ADW's success when. No offense to the Showware center and the fine city of Kent, but it seems like you're not doing well if you're at the Showware center instead of at the Tacoma Dune. [00:09:36] Speaker A: The Showwear center is awesome. There's no bad seats in that place. You could be in the worst seat and still get a good. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Oh, no, no, no. Like, I. We're gonna have a great time. I'm just saying, how many more years is a wrestling promotion gonna stick around if they have to go to the Show Where? [00:09:49] Speaker A: Center. I mean, I would love it because, like, it's great. It's like walking distance. [00:09:53] Speaker B: Well, no, I'm not saying for us, we would love it. Like, I remember when TNA went there back in the day, but the. Yeah, it's not. Well, anyway, I'm just saying if you are want to be a successful long. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Oh, you gotta go to the Tacoma Dome. [00:10:10] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah. I think you do need to show that you can fill those larger venues now. [00:10:16] Speaker A: What do you got to go to the Kingdom, Dan? [00:10:19] Speaker B: Well, the kingdom is gone, Greg. [00:10:21] Speaker A: Well, exactly. And that's what happens if you try to go to places that aren't there. You gotta go to the Showwear Center. And that's where it's going down. This Wednesday. AEW at the Showwear Center. [00:10:32] Speaker B: What's the shitty arena up in Everett? [00:10:36] Speaker A: The arena of the. [00:10:37] Speaker B: The. No, not the angel of the Wings? [00:10:40] Speaker A: No, I didn't say that. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Is it the Angel. [00:10:43] Speaker A: No. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Is it the angel of the Winds Arena? [00:10:45] Speaker A: No, I don't think it's Angel Wings of the Arena. It's like. It's not the Angel. I don't know what it is. I've only been there once for one thing. I can't remember what it's called. It's like. And I didn't. I went to a wrestling show that was on the other side of it. So it wasn't even. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Is there's an arena there. There's the Angel. I think it is the angel of the Winds Arena. I thought it is, but it used to be called something else. [00:11:05] Speaker A: The show said there was going to be up and never. And I got all excited thinking it was going to be there. And then I parked close to it and then ended up having to like walk another like three blocks away, which was fine. It was a great show. Don't get me wrong. I had a great time. But it was also. This is like the first. This is going to be the first two shows that I've been to in like, like 10 years, so. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Well, welcome to. Welcome to North Pacific Northwest arena cast for all of you that were around here, I'm sure this is exciting conversation about where to go and where to be, but you probably can relate to this. There are probably some arenas in your town that you're like, I would go there and I wouldn't go there if you hadn't. They're terrible. [00:11:46] Speaker A: If you hadn't already picked up. This is what we're talking about. And if you're. If you're not. If you're not for it, then. I'm sorry, you're against it? [00:11:56] Speaker B: Well, in fact, you could be for it and against it all at the same time. If you were Jamie Madrox, you could be in both. [00:12:03] Speaker A: You could be in both places at the same time. You could just send a dupe. [00:12:06] Speaker B: You could go to angel of the Winds arena in Everett and go to the Showware center and go to Climate Pledge arena and go to the Tacoma Dome all at once. [00:12:13] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Quadruple dipping. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Well, we should get into this issue. [00:12:20] Speaker A: Yes, we should. [00:12:20] Speaker B: We left off with some trouble for the Mad Roxes. One Mad Rox was being gunned down in his office, and the other Madrox fell into a pool. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Oh, my God. This is. It was too much to take at the same time. There's too much drama in this book. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Well, we've got Madrox prime in the pool, and we got Mad Rock's dupe in the office with. Well, anyway, we get this. We start off with this beautiful cover, and then, much to my chagrin, we have more discrimination against redheads by the Eminem company and their crappy candy bars. [00:12:55] Speaker A: Is that M and M candy bar? [00:12:58] Speaker B: Yeah, there's that crappy amazing bar that we well talked about. You know, Amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing. [00:13:05] Speaker A: You might get lucky and see Eminem at the. At the AEW show. [00:13:10] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sure there's lots of people that act like Eminem at the aew. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Oh, no, I was talking about, like. [00:13:15] Speaker B: Mxm, I guess the maximum Male models. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:13:20] Speaker B: Oh, that was their giga. That was their thing in WWE now. Their MXM collection. [00:13:25] Speaker A: Yes, the collection. [00:13:28] Speaker B: Notice I know exactly who they are. [00:13:31] Speaker A: And one of them is super tall. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Well, then they should be winning, but they're not. Okay, so the. My criteria for winning is now how. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Tall you are, how tall you are. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Or how big certain things are. Okay, so biceps anyway. Biceps. I'm a big fan of biceps. [00:13:50] Speaker A: I know you are. [00:13:53] Speaker B: Anyway, Rain is yelling for the Jamie clone. What? That'd be Rain Sinclair? Yeah, that would be Wolfsbane. That'd be former member of the Cap Wolf Crew. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Crew coming at you at AEW this Wednesday. [00:14:09] Speaker B: And we find out that they installed glass in their office. It's refractive, so it makes people seem like they're where they're not. Is supposed to be. [00:14:19] Speaker A: I've seen that kind of. [00:14:19] Speaker B: And like all comics, unless you die on in the page, you're not dead. Or if you die off the page, but die in a flashback. But die in a pseudo flashback, but not in A flashback, but die off the page. And then you spend seven or eight pages describing the death off the page. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:41] Speaker B: I mean, you could die that way. You could die that way. [00:14:44] Speaker A: But you didn't die that way. And Duke Mad Rocks did not die. He just got a little hurt. [00:14:49] Speaker B: But you could die. That right. Another book with no page numbers. People die that way. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes, it's true. It's true. [00:14:58] Speaker B: I'm sorry, I'm being intentionally vague though, because we want people to still support the Kickstarter. [00:15:04] Speaker A: So close at this time right now we are like $400 from the goal. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Well, if you want to know what I'm talking about, you can go buy the graphic novel version of Kickstarter. [00:15:16] Speaker A: Graphic novel? [00:15:16] Speaker B: Starlight. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Of Starlight. Yes. [00:15:18] Speaker B: The graphic novel of Kickstarter and the creation of Kickstarter is very interesting, in fact. Oh my gosh. This graphic novel. You will not only learn about the history of Kickstarter, but Greg is going to personally hand sign and send an MXP X CD with every single purchase to get you that last $400 in. That's right. You know it, Greg. Straight out of Bremerton. Your favorite band, mxpx. [00:15:44] Speaker A: It's true. It's true. And then I'll see if I. I can get AEW superstar Swerve to come out as. He's a hometown Seattle guy. [00:15:55] Speaker B: He's from Tacoma. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Tacoma. Yeah, I know he's from Tacoma. [00:15:58] Speaker B: He is from the south side. [00:16:00] Speaker A: He's from Tacoma. [00:16:00] Speaker B: He's from the south end. [00:16:02] Speaker A: I'm sorry, I. I apologize. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Truth. [00:16:04] Speaker A: Truth Magnum is from. From Seattle. [00:16:10] Speaker B: What? Magnum? [00:16:11] Speaker A: Truth Magnum. Is it Truth Magnum. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Magnum. [00:16:15] Speaker A: Magnum from the. The out runners. [00:16:18] Speaker B: He's. [00:16:19] Speaker A: He's from seattle. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Like Magnum P.I. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:16:22] Speaker B: With the mustache. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Yeah, the mustache. Yes. [00:16:25] Speaker B: And a bare skin rug. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he. I. I can see it. I can see it. [00:16:31] Speaker B: I believe the outrunners would recreate that. [00:16:33] Speaker A: They should. I would. [00:16:35] Speaker B: Well, anyway, we flipped a page and Jamie Madrox is original. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah. In a pool, sinking to the bottom. He's doing a lot of thinking. [00:16:46] Speaker A: He's sinking and thinking, folks. Sinking and thinking. [00:16:50] Speaker B: We met some pretty, pretty amazing people at the con, and one of them who you already knew, Chris Warner. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:16:59] Speaker B: And he was talking about over dialoguing a page. Now, not that we would critique the great Peter David, but this has a. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Lot of dialogue on it. I had to, actually. [00:17:10] Speaker B: There's a lot of dialogue on this page. I think we can tell what's going on with the art, but he's Also doing a lot of introspective thinking. [00:17:16] Speaker A: It's very internal thought. It's a lot of like, oh, wow, what's going on? [00:17:21] Speaker B: When he's basically worried about, like, why one of his duplicates would try to kill him, except he doesn't know it's a duplicate yet. But then he knows it's a duplicate. But then he gets pulled out of the water. But then he gets ducked in the water. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:35] Speaker B: And he's, like, really thinking if he should die in ignorance. A lot of introspection here. Like, there's a lot of philosophy going on. This is kind of like reading Sartre. [00:17:46] Speaker A: It's a deep book. [00:17:49] Speaker B: It's deep. Sartre. Or is it Sartre? [00:17:51] Speaker A: Sart. [00:17:53] Speaker B: It's John Paul. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Sart. Levesque, I believe. Yes. Sart could be Sartre. [00:18:01] Speaker B: Is it John Paul, I believe, or is it Jean? [00:18:05] Speaker A: Jean Paul Sartre. Sartre. [00:18:08] Speaker B: I don't think it's John Paul. I want it to be Triple H Sart. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Triple H, Sart. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Check it out. Look it up. But as he's thinking and thinking, he's thinking about the hand. [00:18:22] Speaker B: I was right. It is Jean Paul. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Jean Paul. Yeah. Yeah. [00:18:29] Speaker B: He's having an existential moment, I think, out of body experience. [00:18:33] Speaker A: And he's wondering, this hand that's on my head, how do I know this hand? [00:18:39] Speaker B: And he's thinking back, it could be my hand. [00:18:41] Speaker A: Could be my hand. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Well, speaking about lying to yourself and having existential threat. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Yes. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Marvel slash Sony. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Yes. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Which is confusing. [00:18:51] Speaker A: Well, yeah. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Claims that Spider Man 2 at this time is the best comic book movie ever made. [00:18:57] Speaker A: It was the best comic book movie ever made. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Hi. Hard. Disagree. Spider Man 1 is much better. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Spider Man 1 is pretty good. But I will tell you this, and this is a fact, Jack. I took. [00:19:11] Speaker B: You're incorrect. [00:19:12] Speaker A: I took my girlfriend at the time. Now, wife. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Okay. And you can be correct about that. [00:19:17] Speaker A: To the Yardbirds Cinema in the old Yardbirds Mall in Centralia, Washington, to go see that movie now. [00:19:29] Speaker B: And besides the racist implication of the. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Yardbirds franchise itself, I. I wasn't gonna go there. I was gonna. I was gonna expand on the fact that if anyone has ever seen Mall Rats, the dirt mall that they go to is what Yardbirds was for us was the dirt mall that we would go to. [00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I. There's been some disappointing moments lately here in Tacoma. [00:20:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Number one, the mall is degenerated to the point it's now the bni. [00:20:06] Speaker A: Oh, the mall is the BNI now. [00:20:08] Speaker B: Yes. Because Jiu. Jitsu lawyer Paul and the lovely Sabrina. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Went to the mall. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Went to the mall to see a paranormal circus. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Oh, yes. In the park. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Clearly something that should have been at the bni, huh? [00:20:25] Speaker A: And was it good or bad? [00:20:27] Speaker B: I don't know. She was scared and he was indifferent. Like she claims something touched her feet and then she had to put her feet on jujitsu or Paul's lap the rest of the show. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Sounds like she has weak feet, Dan. [00:20:42] Speaker B: I. She seemed terrified weak. However, my point is B and I. Former home of Ivan the gorilla. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Yes. Rest in peace. [00:20:50] Speaker B: Horribly portrayed in the terrible Disney film named Ivan. [00:20:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:20:56] Speaker B: You know, you could have just told the original story, which was like a gorilla lived at a little kid's house and then lived in a shopping center. But no, you have to make up some and ruin the story. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Anyway, that the BNI is clearly where a paranormal circus should be. It should not be at the. The once. The once great and fine establishment. Tacoma Mall. Home of the Bon Marche and Nordstrom and all of our fine stores. [00:21:24] Speaker A: Yes. The. The so many great things set. Tacoma Mall. [00:21:29] Speaker B: It is home of the Outback Steakhouse. Currently not Outback Steakhouse. Sorry, I totally messed that. It's fine. But the Brazilian Steakhouse. [00:21:35] Speaker A: The Brazilian Steakhouse and Krispy Kreme. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Well, anyway. Yes. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Where the old menu used to be. [00:21:42] Speaker B: Land or malls following it. We're just dating ourselves now. [00:21:44] Speaker A: Defunct Toys R Us. [00:21:47] Speaker B: Well, Toys R Us should be defunct. [00:21:49] Speaker A: Oh, you get out of here with that trash. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Okay, so anyway, we are getting on. We have Jamie holding Jamie, Jamie holding. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Jamie and holding Jamie holding another Jamie and another Jamie. [00:22:04] Speaker B: There's a lot of Jamies. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Ten Jamies. [00:22:06] Speaker B: And then we get a lecture. The human hand is comprised of 27 bones. 14. Fallon. Oh, phalangeal. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Phalangeal. [00:22:15] Speaker B: I said it right. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Phalangeals. [00:22:17] Speaker B: It just took me like three times to think about it. Bones become the fingers. Three bones in each finger, two in the thumb. Most easily broken are the little finger and the ring finger. And he breaks the hand that's holding him up or pushing him down. We're not sure. He breaks the hand. We get. Now it's a few years after the best wrestling game of all time. But we get an advertisement for two worlds collide. Smackdown versus Raw, the video game. [00:22:45] Speaker A: Hey, what systems is it on? [00:22:48] Speaker B: Ah, well, sir, PS3 on PlayStation. PlayStation 2. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Oh, two. Okay. Xbox. [00:22:55] Speaker B: And it's. Well, it has both. It has the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2. I don't see it on anything else. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Exclusive. [00:23:05] Speaker B: So brought to you by thq. Okay. [00:23:08] Speaker A: All the fine games will come from thq. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Well, anyway, we flip the page. They drag Eddie drags mad rocks out of the pool, and we have him talking to. Oh, what was her name? Now I've totally forgotten. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Starts with it. Yes. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Truly, truly. The. The femme fatale in the story's name has escaped me. [00:23:35] Speaker A: The lady. [00:23:36] Speaker B: I. Well, this is why I have. I believe her name is Sheila De Soto. [00:23:39] Speaker A: Yes. Starts from this. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Look at that. It's like a double S. If you took away the. Duh. Duh. Give me a double sila soda, and I would represent something completely different. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Completely different. And now for something completely different. [00:23:57] Speaker B: Well, anyway, she's telling Eddie nothing happened. [00:24:03] Speaker A: Nothing happened. [00:24:04] Speaker B: Get an advertisement for Marvel Frame motivational posters that we had last time. I will say they must have not thought this one would sell as much because the advertising is going downhill and is more centered on Marvel's own products. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Buy these Marvel things that you know you're going to love and see this Marvel movie until. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Until we get this. Actually, there is something here, so I. Actually, I'm gonna want your opinion. Okay, well, let me get to the story first. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Story. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Anyway, Eddie looks like the cool kid at school. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:24:32] Speaker B: When we were in third grade. Yeah. Because he looks like he's gonna cut somebody, but he flips open a switchblade comb and combs his hair. [00:24:40] Speaker A: So rad. I want one again, bro. [00:24:44] Speaker B: Is. He. Is. He is so rad. Like, just absolutely tubular. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Like, I had mine taken away. Ms. Daisa took it. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Of course. You had one. And you had one in high school. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:24:58] Speaker B: The funnier part. [00:24:59] Speaker A: The funnier part. Yeah. And I knew I shouldn't have had it there, but. And then she's like, why do you have this? I'm going to put this in my drawer. And you know how many she had in there? [00:25:10] Speaker B: A bunch. [00:25:10] Speaker A: A bunch. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Probably a thousand. She's probably collecting them for later. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Rest in peace. [00:25:16] Speaker B: I think it was best in high school when I. When I turned 18 and the two security women who were there looked at me, and I just left school after fifth period one day, and they both looked at me and said, should you be leaving? And I said, yes, I should, and just kept walking. [00:25:37] Speaker A: I did that a couple times, too. [00:25:39] Speaker B: Because I felt like leaving because, well, they didn't want to be there anyway. Friends, we don't recommend this behavior. [00:25:48] Speaker A: No, it's not good. And tell your kids they should stay in school. It's important, especially find out. [00:25:56] Speaker B: We find out. They're like, don't drop him because he can duplicate. And they're like, do these duplicates have powers? And he's like, no, you can just turn into a bunch of guys. Mean to Mad Rocks. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Yeah, he's turned into a bunch of dudes. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Well, anyway, we do have a game on PlayStation 2 and Xbox and GameCube and PC, CD ROM from a different movie at the time. That is a clear ripoff of a famous comic book. But we get the Incredibles. [00:26:26] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:26:28] Speaker B: So where do you rate that in relation to, say, the wrestling games of the time? Okay, so feel like it's probably a money grab. [00:26:38] Speaker A: At the time, I would have said total money grab. But considering the fact they're still making Incredibles stuff and games and content for kids, because it's continually doing stuff, either money grab or it's. It's still good. I just played a game the other day. It still had incredible stuff in it. I was like, what the heck? But overall, control wise, it's smoother than I expected. The gameplay is engaging enough to keep me engaged at my age now, as I was when I was the age that I was when it came out. [00:27:29] Speaker B: So, yeah, I played the game quite the effort. [00:27:31] Speaker A: What? [00:27:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Oh, they. That. What? That. It wasn't that much effort to keep me engaged. [00:27:36] Speaker B: No, it's. To keep you engaged takes a lot of effort. [00:27:40] Speaker A: So, I mean, it's just like, I gotta play this game. But then again, I also like the other Disney product games because they're stupid fun. [00:27:53] Speaker B: Well, we flipped the page here after our advertisement for the Incredibles game and the shooter that was trying to kill Mad Rocks. The. Oh, yeah, the assassin is shooting the hell out of Guido. [00:28:04] Speaker A: He's tickling him with tiny, tiny bullets. [00:28:10] Speaker B: And then a lady with a giant gun arm appears and shoots him out of the door, out of the building bow. And then Madrox checks on him and then. Yeah, I remember this storyline. Not too thrilled with this. In Mutant Town, we've got Sheriff Bishop shows up. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:30] Speaker B: Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Centerpiece of all X Men storylines along with cable and is now walking around a town. It's kind of like the last Robert Patson Batman movie. We'll just call this the Bishop who Walks. [00:28:43] Speaker A: You know, I know you don't like that movie, and I'm not gonna go off on it too much, but I enjoyed it for what it was. It kept me entertained. It kept me entertained while my dogs were freaking out about fireworks. I turned that thing on and I turned it up, and my dogs slept like babies to the humble rumble. Of his beefy Batmobile and his attempt at a gravelly voice. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Well, the geniuses back in Chicago tie up mad rocks. And he's thinking, man, I've got to create more duplicates to get out of this situation. [00:29:22] Speaker A: But there's a hitch. [00:29:25] Speaker B: But it's cool, because he was studying horticulture or the effects of fluoride or being a circus clown. You never know. Like, he sends out all his duplicates to do this, and he's like, now in this case, that summer I spent in Vegas with Penn and Teller and Ricky J. That was useful. So he knows the model of the handcuffs, how to get out of them, and then he tips something over, and he creates a duplicate. [00:29:47] Speaker A: Hey. [00:29:48] Speaker B: And then, along with the theme for massive amounts of advertising to ruin the flow of the story, we get an advertisement for Smallville season three. Good season. Yeah. On. And this was on dvd. I owned this box. [00:30:05] Speaker A: Did you? [00:30:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I owned all the Smallville box set. That's actually up until, like, season seven or something like that. Anyway, we also get an advertisement for uncanny. The Fantastic Four. Uncanny X Men team up. [00:30:21] Speaker A: I'm surprised that they had a Smallville advertisement in a Marvel book. [00:30:25] Speaker B: You know, Marvel didn't care. When you know you're better than the other one, you just take all the odd money, like, you're gonna get paid and it will stop. Yeah. I mean, now D.C. was starting to produce some pretty cool stuff at this time. [00:30:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:38] Speaker B: But, yeah, like, it's around the time we're starting into Infinite Infinite Crisis. No. Yeah, Infinite Crisis. Right. Countdown to Infinite Crisis. Right around the Blue Beetle book where he's murdered by Maxwell Lord. Right. So around the same time. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Spoiler. [00:30:54] Speaker B: It's literally like our first or second podcast. [00:30:57] Speaker A: I'm joking. [00:30:57] Speaker B: If you go back in time, you can Here for any of you new list. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Anyway, go back in time and listen to that first or second podcast. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah. There's no video, but, you know, it's probably better that way. Just. [00:31:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you wouldn't want to see Scraggly. I had a mullet at the time. [00:31:13] Speaker B: I think you still do. [00:31:15] Speaker A: I mean. No, I don't. [00:31:17] Speaker B: It's under your hat. [00:31:18] Speaker A: My grandma had me get my haircut. [00:31:22] Speaker B: So. Well, anyway, no selling that. Greg's grandma. [00:31:28] Speaker A: Hey, I mean, it's true, though. She was like, you need Erica. [00:31:32] Speaker B: I mean, if you want to follow Graham, if you want to follow Baba content, you can do that on Greg's Facebook, right? [00:31:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I'm posting. [00:31:38] Speaker B: There's a lot of updates. [00:31:39] Speaker A: Posting a thing or two a Week on Baba Stories. Because you know, she's 94 so. Or gonna be 94, so she's not a lot of time left. So we gotta get those moments in when we can. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Well, Jamie gives us a detailed explanation on the next page of how he's getting rid of the handcuffs. And he's going to create a duplicate, we think under a door. Except for interrupted By Spider Man 2 Merchandise Advertisement where you can buy your own scooters and skateboards and. Very exciting skateboards. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Stupid. And then finally we get back to the story. Oh my God. Okay. And then we get a page. Yes, this would have been done much better as a two page spread without these advertisements. [00:32:26] Speaker A: But it would have been continual page. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Of him opening, creating a duplicate outside the door. And then he's like, hurry up, open the door, let me out you there. He said. And then the duplicate says, what's the point of letting you out? What's the point of anything? See, so it was a start thing. I was right. [00:32:47] Speaker A: So it's like. Okay, for listeners out there, if you're wondering right now, Jamie has created a. A version of Greg. He's he og Jamie is Greg. And then he created a Dan version of himself asking questions. [00:33:03] Speaker B: I hate sart. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Well, he is at. Why are we doing this? Why are we here? [00:33:12] Speaker B: You know what? [00:33:12] Speaker A: What? [00:33:13] Speaker B: I'm not your. [00:33:14] Speaker A: I don't know, I'm just joking. He's just like, you're not. Dude, I'm just messing with you. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Well, we have a. We have a dynamic forces advertisement with some Alex Ross and John Romita art. That's kind of. That is cool. [00:33:32] Speaker A: That is cool. [00:33:34] Speaker B: Let's no sell that. My God, these advertisements are insane. [00:33:38] Speaker A: What's the next? [00:33:38] Speaker B: There is one every other page. Yeah. Literally. [00:33:41] Speaker A: Well, they had to fill this book with everything. You know, they had to make it 30 pages. They take this 24. 24 page book to 30 pages. [00:33:50] Speaker B: No, like seriously, we have another single page with an advertisement. Like, this is getting ridiculous. [00:33:55] Speaker A: What's that advertisement for? [00:33:57] Speaker B: Well, I'll show you in a second. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:59] Speaker B: I just want to say the Jamie's have a whole giant conversation with each other. So that's fantastic. And it's. [00:34:10] Speaker A: It's very deep. It's very personal. Yeah, it is like if two sides of your brain were having a talk, you know? [00:34:19] Speaker B: Yeah. They're trying to figure out their sexuality. They're trying to figure out how to get out of the situation. Now we get an advertisement for Mortal Kombat deception. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Oh, that's the game that came with the Mortal Kombat chess as well. That was pretty cool because you could play chess with Mortal Kombat characters and they like battle chess. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I give that a 10 out of 10. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Well, we flip the page. Finally. Finally we get some continuous storytelling. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Holy crap. [00:34:51] Speaker B: Unfortunately, yeah. It's a lot of Jamie getting beat up. [00:34:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Fortunately, that's a terrible idea to be Jamie up because you just make lots of Jamies. [00:35:03] Speaker A: It's the Jamie making if you do that. But that doesn't happen necessarily right now. [00:35:09] Speaker B: Well, he's just very concerned about his sexuality right now too, for some reason. In the middle of this crisis. [00:35:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Not really sure because he's like. Well, you know, I mean, we didn't really like what was going on. So, I mean, what does that mean? [00:35:23] Speaker B: Probably good instincts. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Should be. Not. Not too sure about this lady. So, you know. So let's not get into it. [00:35:31] Speaker B: Well, anyway, we flipped the K page and they managed to Gambit. I love it. [00:35:39] Speaker A: I love it so much. It's like it was instinct. I didn't mean it. It was an accident. [00:35:45] Speaker B: It's like so spice the guy's neck with a card. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Did he hang out with Gambit at some point? [00:35:51] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Oh, that'd be so cool. That's a whole storyline. I want to see like Jamie and Gambit hanging out just like throwing cards. [00:36:01] Speaker B: While he reabsorbs the duplicate that was he was arguing with. We get another advertisement for The Spider Man 2 the game engage version. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Oh, for the end game. [00:36:12] Speaker B: We've already discussed at length. We've already discussed it. [00:36:15] Speaker A: I know. I'm not going to go into it. I'm just going to say I can't believe the. The lineup they had for that and how big it failed. Too big to lose. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Well, we're back at Mutant Town. Yeah. Nokia, the phone brand that's going to last forever. Remember the best phones they were. Or at Nokia. [00:36:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean like you could. They were selling. Drop those things and never have a problem with it. Miss it. [00:36:41] Speaker B: They were a brick and a half. You could also hit somebody with it. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Knock them out, use it in a nickel bar. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Well, anyway, Rain is on top of the building. She finds out that Guido is now under arrest by Bishop. She's. She is tracking down the guy that was supposedly cheating on his wife. He has a literal out of body experience and he starts floating away. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Away. [00:37:11] Speaker B: We get an advertisement for. I have no idea what this is. And you probably do. I. I don't know what this Is. [00:37:20] Speaker A: I can't tell. [00:37:22] Speaker B: Skateboarding footwear. [00:37:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Skateboard shoes. [00:37:27] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Skateboard shoes. Skate shoes, man. Everybody wore them back in the day. They're. They're big. They are popular. They're. I mean, they were big. They made. They made your feet look huge. Like, cartoonish. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Well, we go back to Chicago, and Eddie and Sheila are fighting. He sneaks in. We find out that my dupe hated that year and a half in Moscow, wanting to know why he couldn't be the one who went to Hawaii. It's kind of funny, but that's why he knows how to speak Russian. [00:38:04] Speaker A: Well, that's good. [00:38:06] Speaker B: And interpret Russian. And he says, okay, come on, focus on what he's saying. And I mean, by the way, this. This whole thing about where Jamie knows all this stuff because the dupes went out is, you know, it's awesome. [00:38:21] Speaker A: It is pretty cool. It's like, oh, that. That makes sense. I mean, I. I would. [00:38:25] Speaker B: I don't know that we need to explain it every time. Like, I don't know that we need an explanation of. Oh, yeah, that time when my duplicate was in Russia. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it. Okay. [00:38:37] Speaker A: It adds that context to how Jamie knows, you know. [00:38:45] Speaker B: He'S a. Am I doing that thing that listener Jason accused me of? [00:38:50] Speaker A: What's that? [00:38:52] Speaker B: Like, getting annoyed with myself? [00:38:54] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:39:00] Speaker B: Okay. [00:39:01] Speaker A: But listener John loves it, so keep doing it. If there was. There was an upvote action applied to any of these things, he would upvote it. He would be like, more. More Dan getting mad. I love this. [00:39:19] Speaker B: I'm not really mad. It's just more like. I mean, I love this. I love this part of the character, but at times, like, sometimes the dialogue is kind of silly, but, you know, it's okay. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Listener Lance gets sad by it. [00:39:34] Speaker B: Well, anyway, wait, how come. How come. Listen, how come now? Wait, I thought Clay was in. Trying to murder him in New York. [00:39:46] Speaker A: That's okay. Continuity wise. This is what I don't like. How did Clay get from New York to Chicago so fast? Was he on a concord? Is there two clays. I don't understand, and I don't like it one bit. As a writer and as somebody who's, like, follows continuity in movies and comics and stuff like that. This does not flow correctly for me. So. Peter. David. Peter. [00:40:12] Speaker B: You're gonna yell at Peter David? It's a little late, sir. [00:40:15] Speaker A: I. I need. I know, I know. [00:40:17] Speaker B: I'm like, dad, you're a couple weeks too late. Well, anyway, we flipped the page. We've got Eddie, we've got Sophia, We've got random thug guy. No, that's Eddie. Sorry. We got Eddie, Sophia, and the. The assassin. And we enter a room and there's Jamie sitting there. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Wait, Broken fingers. [00:40:48] Speaker B: And he's. Look, is he in charge? Like, what. What. What is. What is going on? [00:40:52] Speaker A: Knocking back some whiskey with broken fingers. [00:40:55] Speaker B: What is going on? Is he in charge? [00:40:57] Speaker A: I don't think he's in. I don't know if he's in charge. [00:41:02] Speaker B: Well, we get another advertisement for Versus System and then the same advertisement we got last issue, which I already know you love. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Oh, Fable. Yeah, Now I got them all. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah. So not worried about that. Yeah. So where are we at with this story here? I as I loudly put away this comic. [00:41:19] Speaker A: I will say, I know we weren't going to cover. We weren't going to jump like, you know where. So I. I was. But it's that itch to go to the next one because I'm like, I know what's going on. [00:41:34] Speaker B: You mean this one? [00:41:36] Speaker A: Don't even do it, Dan. Don't even tease me. [00:41:40] Speaker B: I can open it right now. [00:41:41] Speaker A: Oh, you're gonna do it, aren't you? I don't want. No, but that's, that's where I'm at. Because I gotta know what's going on with this other Jamie. What. Who. Why are all like, what I mean, like, because they can't kill original Jamie if this is a dupe. Unless the dupe. Unless the original Jamie, that is a dupe. And he just thinks he's original Jamie. And this is original Jamie who has broken fingers now. [00:42:13] Speaker B: Okay, I don't know. [00:42:14] Speaker A: And I gotta know. And I'm. [00:42:17] Speaker B: I need to know, too. [00:42:19] Speaker A: And it's making me have anger inside. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Like, make you have anger. [00:42:28] Speaker A: And I'm. And I'm having a conversation deep inside, talking to myself like two different Jamies. And I'm wondering to myself, deep inside. [00:42:37] Speaker B: Deeply rooted, what is a Jamie? [00:42:39] Speaker A: What is a Jamie? And what would a Jamie do? [00:42:42] Speaker B: What would Sartre say exactly? Well, if you're having a Jamie crisis. [00:42:49] Speaker A: What would Jean Paul say? [00:42:51] Speaker B: What would John Paul Levesque. Sharp. Sartre. [00:42:56] Speaker A: Sartre say? [00:42:57] Speaker B: Sharp. I just made Iron Mike Sharp the wrestler. Remember the one that yelled a lot, that always got beat? [00:43:03] Speaker A: Yes. You just go, ra, ra, ra, ra. And Sounds like a lot of wrestlers. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Well. Yeah. So that's it. So that was a story and we got to continue the story next week. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Next week, people. Tune in for more. Find out. And if you are not following along, reading these books. Go get them, read them. You can do it digitally. You can do it like Dan is doing. [00:43:37] Speaker B: With the comic. [00:43:38] Speaker A: With the comic. Go find. [00:43:40] Speaker B: I believe you can buy the whole set on ebay right now for like 11 bucks. [00:43:43] Speaker A: So $11, that's a steal of a deal. [00:43:47] Speaker B: You could also, I'm sure, just buy the graphic novel. I got. I got shamed for owning floppies the other day. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Bendies. [00:43:56] Speaker B: They said they were floppy bendies. I don't know, man. It was one of those youngins. And I'm like, seriously? [00:44:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:05] Speaker B: She's like, I just buy graphic novels because they're cheaper. And I'm like, they are. [00:44:11] Speaker A: They are, but I support them. [00:44:13] Speaker B: Comic books are now comic. Comic books are now 3.99. And a graphic novel holds five comic books and graphic novels are $20. Five times four is 20. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:29] Speaker B: So it's like they cost exactly the same. I don't know where we were mathematically challenged here. [00:44:34] Speaker A: The math isn't math in Youngin. You're just supporting the industry on a monthly basis. He's waiting till it all goes to trade, and then. [00:44:42] Speaker B: Well, also, you don't get to the trade if you have new stuff out there, unless you buy the books. Because they don't know to make the trade. Because they don't know that it's actually popular. [00:44:52] Speaker A: Because people. Yeah, they won't do it. And that's it. That's. That's legitimate truth. As, you know, as we see in the comics industry, they just won't put it together or they'll do it like 10 years later when they're like. They get enough people complaining that we can't get all these books and why don't you collect them as the whole entire thing? And then finally somebody's like, well, we're gonna make a lot of money that way. [00:45:15] Speaker B: Well, then they make an omnibus plus, which are these giant things that you could hit people with. [00:45:22] Speaker A: And those are huge and big. And you can't sleep with them because they hurt your neck and then they fall on your face. Yeah, they're too big. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Yeah. But this is like the who's who omnibus. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Got to read that on a table or something. It's too much to do. [00:45:35] Speaker B: Let's see. Should we open to something? [00:45:38] Speaker A: If you're not. If you're. If you're not paying attention to the video and you're only listening to this on audio. [00:45:43] Speaker B: The Peacemaker. [00:45:44] Speaker A: The Peacemaker. Talk about John the Penguin. Wow. He went right to the peace people. [00:45:51] Speaker B: That's a Very interesting combination. I just opened a random page here. [00:45:54] Speaker A: What if The Peacemaker, the Penguin. We're having a fight. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Same page. Whack. Whack. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Do you think of a bookmark in here? [00:46:05] Speaker A: Do you think the Peacemaker. [00:46:06] Speaker B: You're going to have a bookmark? [00:46:07] Speaker A: What? [00:46:07] Speaker B: Do you have a bookmark in here? Are you excited? [00:46:08] Speaker A: What is it for? [00:46:09] Speaker B: I have a Trekker bookmark. Oh, hey. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Ron Randall. Trekker. If you're not familiar with Ron Randall's amazing book, Trekker should go check it out. [00:46:19] Speaker B: If you're not familiar with it, you should be. [00:46:21] Speaker A: You should be. [00:46:23] Speaker B: Anyway, before I get too distracting. Yeah, I got there. There's a whole bunch right here. Right. [00:46:27] Speaker A: Tracker. [00:46:28] Speaker B: Anyway, before I get too distracted, probably start wrapping this thing up. Yeah, of course you can find more of me while nowhere, because we just went to a comic show and I'll be hiding in my bunker the rest of the summer. But you can also. [00:46:44] Speaker A: Don't want to tell me about the concept. [00:46:45] Speaker B: Greg at the Retro Emporium and. Oh, yeah, we did. Just told him. Well, we've already been there. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we were there, but you don't want to give him a recap of a recrap. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Oh, well, before we talked to Dan slott for, like, 20 minutes and he told us stories. [00:47:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:01] Speaker B: We had an amazing conversation with Joel Jones about where the best clam chowder is around the Pacific. [00:47:05] Speaker A: It was chowder chat. [00:47:08] Speaker B: And we talked to Chris Warner about plot points and writing. And Chris Warner, out of the blue, unprompted, says most people can't write serial comics, except for Paul Levitz, who set up two or three plot points at this. And I'm like, what? Did you see the look on my face when he said Paul Levitz? [00:47:27] Speaker A: It was great. It was hilarious. It was. That whole time, I feel like it. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Was out of the blue. It's not prompted. He was just. He was talking to Greg. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Like, he was just talking and we're just having a. Like, honestly, that whole, like, I want to say we talked to him. It was. It was. It was like literally the first 45 minutes of us being there, just hanging out. [00:47:48] Speaker B: And then we talked to Ben Percy as well. We talked to Steve Orlando a little bit. I was very nervous talking to Steve Orlando because of all the shit we talked on the Midnighter series. And I'm getting my Midnighter book signed, and Greg bought the graphic novel, and I don't know why. I was just super nervous. So I sort of ruined that conversation. So Steve Orlando, if you ever listen to this. We're sorry. We want to come talk to you again when I'm not so nervous. And we'll be more personable and chatty. You. [00:48:15] Speaker A: He was. He was. He was very nice preserved. I'm sure he was just enjoying his first cup of coffee or maybe third cup of coffee of the day. Getting into the. [00:48:25] Speaker B: And of course, we. And of course, we talked to Randy Emberlin and Judy. So that was fantastic. All sorts of people were there. It was fantastic. I got some more art from Tony. [00:48:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Tony Delacruz got this fine, sad hot dog man. [00:48:42] Speaker A: The saddest of hot dog men. It's a fine comic book. Locally for me. [00:48:48] Speaker B: It is a fine comic book. You can see right here. I got a hot dog wrapper. I bought the full meal deal. [00:48:54] Speaker A: Got all the goodies. You even got a hot dog man. You got a hot dog. [00:48:57] Speaker B: He looks. He looks very sad. I did. So you got a hot dog toy. Yeah, we got all sorts of stuff. I got this also fine book here. Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:49:09] Speaker A: You got the game, the rpg. [00:49:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So anyway, I got all sorts of stuff. I got my sign stuff sitting right next to me. I bought some. A$,dollar books have gone up in price. Apparently they're now $2 books or 6 for $10. But I bought some. I brought. I bought future listener Steve, some old adventure comics with Aquaman on the COVID For what? I would think. I would prefer too much. I mean, it's Aquaman book, so you really should pay about 50 cents. We had one person. I laughed at the prices of a lot of comic books while we were there. Vendors. I'm going to say the same complaint I had last time we went to a show. It is not a stimulus package. 2021 pricing right now. Yeah, it's. So we looked at a really cool copy of the Muhammad Ali book. It was very nice condition. They wanted 500 for it. And I'm just like, I think I wanted to go negotiate. And Greg wouldn't let me because I. [00:50:09] Speaker A: Believe that that was the. That was the. Hey, I don't really want to sell this price, but you can take a look at it and see what I have. Or you could buy the Whitman version for $150. [00:50:21] Speaker B: But I also bought the Shazam Tabloid. [00:50:24] Speaker A: You did. [00:50:27] Speaker B: It says Shazam the original Captain Marvel is what it says for $8. So I was very happy about that. A lot of fun stuff. Greg bought a bunch of stuff to you. I bought some prints from Eli Wolf. I. We talked to. We talked to all Sorts of people. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Caught up with Corey Lewis at Shark Knife and. And talked with him. He and I used to do books with ONI back in the day. [00:50:51] Speaker B: And so we got some fracking bombs. [00:50:53] Speaker A: Some fracking bombs from. From Mo. And then chatted up with. I want to say there was. Like I. Like I said, like Dan said, there was a lot of people to talk to. Overall, you take. You take all the. All the things that we didn't want to see. [00:51:07] Speaker B: Dr. Travis. Talk to Travis. You're thinking of. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Talk to Travis Bundy, the amazing layout and print designer doing amazing. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Travis Other had told us ahead of time we would have advertised the fact he was at different show. [00:51:19] Speaker A: He was at a different show altogether in Las Vegas. And I would have been pumping that. But I didn't know until, like, I got home that night. Let's see, there was. Man, there was somebody else I wanted to. To. [00:51:32] Speaker B: To. [00:51:32] Speaker A: To. To. Bump. [00:51:34] Speaker B: Shout out. [00:51:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm trying to think, like I. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Had somebody lecture me on the value of Star Trek books and how they're worth $2 and not $1. So it was. It's fascinating to have somebody tell me that 1980 Star Trek books that are worth a quarter, which I would have paid a dollar for, are. I have to go for $2 when they're near mint. [00:51:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:51:55] Speaker B: So thank you for that lecture. Vendor. [00:51:58] Speaker A: And then to the vendor that we never made it back to that. I want to buy the sign from that. It was too large to carry through the whole entire show. First thing that I saw, I forgot to. We made it through the show. I bought your book and I didn't make it back for the sign. I am so sorry. I know you're probably not going to listen to the show, but I remembered after I got home, pulled into my driveway and realized that, you know, I forgot the sign. But I do have your information. So said sign might be gotten still. [00:52:29] Speaker B: So you saw the sign? [00:52:31] Speaker A: I saw the sign, man. Somebody else. [00:52:34] Speaker B: You opened up your eyes. [00:52:35] Speaker A: I did. [00:52:35] Speaker B: And saw the sign. [00:52:36] Speaker A: The sign. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:38] Speaker A: There's somebody else that I wanted to say. And then. [00:52:42] Speaker B: Well, you'll remember next. You'll remember next episode. That's why we're sequential and stuff. [00:52:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:52:48] Speaker B: You can remember again. [00:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Well, you can find Greg at the Retro Emporium. [00:52:53] Speaker A: You can. And maybe I'll remember them. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Washington. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:52:56] Speaker B: On Meeker Street. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Yes. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Yep, you can. You can find me in my bunker. And we'll announce next time I'll be making an appearance somewhere. It could aew. It might not happen. [00:53:08] Speaker A: Live taping. [00:53:10] Speaker B: You know, Greg, I mean, we could go somewhere. My annual buy one, get one free Alaska Airlines voucher is now in my account. So we could venture off somewhere. We could. We could and. And do something fun on a weekend or a week, during the week or whenever we want. We've had vacation times and all sorts of things. So anyway, it could happen. You could be leaving the bunker, but it's. It could happen. It might not happen. Also, you could go see Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul at Certified Martial Arts and go learn the fine fighting art of Jiu Jitsu. He just had, like, Kyotera there. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Kyotera at the. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Not to be confused with Terra Arising, Triple H's original character from the East Coast Indies. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Wild. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Isn't that clever? Terra Rising. [00:54:16] Speaker A: Yeah, very. [00:54:17] Speaker B: Who had the better original name? Edge with Sexton Hardcastle or Triple H with Terra Rising? [00:54:26] Speaker A: Terrorizing Earth Rising. They're both really good. I can't. I can't tell you which one is better. They're both really good. [00:54:39] Speaker B: They're both really good. [00:54:40] Speaker A: They're both really good. [00:54:42] Speaker B: Sexton Hard Castle. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Sexton Hard Castle. It just sounds good coming off the mouth, but coming out of the mouth, I don't know. But then also terrorizing sounds rock hard. [00:55:02] Speaker B: Because what if they were a tag team? [00:55:04] Speaker A: Holy schnikes. [00:55:08] Speaker B: Sexton Hardcastle and Terrorizing coming to an arena near you to fight the Outrunners. [00:55:14] Speaker A: Oh, well, I don't know, man. [00:55:19] Speaker B: Well, we'll never know. I mean, the generations couldn't bring these folks together. Age has separated them, but maybe you could have seen it, too. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Do they have the stuff? [00:55:28] Speaker B: We'll never know. Anything else you want to plug right now? [00:55:32] Speaker A: No, that's everything. That's everything. [00:55:35] Speaker B: You don't want them to buy any more books or. [00:55:37] Speaker A: I mean, I want them to go buy Absolute Zero's Camp Launchpad, of course, for their kids during the summer so they could learn all about stem stuff and. And, you know, read during the summertime because it's awesome. [00:55:49] Speaker B: Stems. [00:55:50] Speaker A: Like stem. [00:55:51] Speaker B: Like. Like the things you take off of mushrooms. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And cherries and. And. And everything else. No. [00:55:57] Speaker B: Now, what do you do with the stems? Do you grind those up, too, or. [00:56:01] Speaker A: No, you dan. Step. Like stem technology stuff, you know, science technology. I thought you got rid of the stats and art. [00:56:12] Speaker B: I thought you get rid of the stems. I thought you only kept the leaves. [00:56:15] Speaker A: No. Well, dude, there's a different thing. It's all. It's all different. [00:56:19] Speaker B: Oh, I was asking for you to educate me kind of like you educate the kids in the books I back. [00:56:25] Speaker A: In the day, you do the pluck and pull to make the bag bigger and then you would like see, you would pull out the stems and the seeds if it was your thing, but if it wasn't your thing, you just sell it all as it was. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:56:37] Speaker A: I mean, that's what I heard. [00:56:40] Speaker B: That's what you heard. [00:56:43] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:56:43] Speaker B: Well, anyway, this educational video was brought to you by Greg Smith, children's author. I also to be found. [00:57:00] Speaker A: I was just listening to what Travis told me. [00:57:08] Speaker B: TRAVIS webb RX NOT children's AUTHOR well, anyway, on that note, I don't think I can't think of a better way to end the podcast. So we'll wrap this one up. Thank you for joining us on Funny Book Forensics. Hey, read Madrox number four. Join us on the journey. We'll see you soon.

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