Funny Book Forensics 397 An Internal Disagreement

[00:00:08] Speaker A: Perfect. Cough, cough. That's awesome. If I start again, it's gonna mess up and mess up all the things and I don't know why you're doing this again for two straight weeks. You're. I'm not playing today and he's not you. You wanted to talk about the Mad Rocks. [00:00:26] Speaker B: I know. And I was. I was trying to put myself. I was trying to put myself in a good mood because I. Because okay, little. Little pre show. Little pre show funds here. Not really fun. Usually. Usually it's. It's me trying to get Dan out of a funk, but Dan was trying to get Greg out of a funk. [00:00:44] Speaker A: And then Greg just kept getting in more of a funk. [00:00:46] Speaker B: I just kept spiraling, people. Now Dan's trying to get me out of being mad and inter. Rocking with Mad Rocks again. We're talking about the cool transforming toy that is a mad angry rock that also rocks in a guitar playing band. It's a rock that plays a rock guitar. [00:01:06] Speaker A: It's sold at Rocks and more. Or is it More than rocks? [00:01:11] Speaker B: More than rocks that rocks More than rocks can rock before. [00:01:15] Speaker A: More than rocks are rocks and more. [00:01:20] Speaker B: More rocks than a rock can rock at Rocks. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Now what is the name of the store? [00:01:24] Speaker B: Oh, More than Rocks. [00:01:26] Speaker A: It's not rock. I want it to be Rocks and More. [00:01:29] Speaker B: No, but it's More than Rocks. [00:01:31] Speaker A: Like I kept telling people it was Rocks and More because I'm dyslexic and then they write a sign and it says more than Rocks. [00:01:40] Speaker B: More than. [00:01:40] Speaker A: But I just kept saying the name backwards to everyone and they're like, that's not the name. And I'm. I. I don't know. Well, this is Jamie Mad Rocks. So if he was Mad Rocks, then he would have been extreme in the 90s. [00:01:58] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Because his last name, his extreme. The last letter in his name is an X. And then all of a sudden they go. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Well, we've got, we've got a much better cover this time. The COVID actually it means something this time. [00:02:19] Speaker B: It's more Jamies than one cover can handle. There's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. [00:02:26] Speaker A: There's a lot of Jamies on this. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Cover actually, you know, because Mad Rocks. Jamie Madrox is. What is he called? He's the what? Man? [00:02:35] Speaker A: Multiple Man. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Multiple man. But there's eight of him on this cover making him. Making that eight. The sign of infinity. Making it infinite. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Well, he's not the Infinite man. [00:02:49] Speaker B: He's not the Infinite man, but he's. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Not the Infinity Man. [00:02:52] Speaker B: He's not the Infinity Man. But there's an infinite amount of him. [00:02:57] Speaker A: Theoretically, there could be an infinite amount of him, except that's actually not true, because he's on planet Earth, so he'd have to obtain space travel. So then maybe. But the planet can only sustain so many people, so there could be infinite. Because all the clones would start dying. [00:03:14] Speaker B: Could he continue to go to different versions of Earth? [00:03:19] Speaker A: No, it'd be Malthusian and. [00:03:21] Speaker B: Well, I mean, but what if he did? And then would he be able to, like, populate it with different versions of himself? [00:03:27] Speaker A: Well, there's lots of. He could just continually populate. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Yes, because he just populate and populate again. [00:03:34] Speaker A: There'd just be lots of sad mad roxes. They actually did this. Mark Waid actually did this with Triplicate girl in the 2000s. Around the same time, actually. [00:03:44] Speaker B: Wait, so there's more than one? [00:03:47] Speaker A: Well, so, yes. So in dc, there was a character named Triplicate Girl who became Duo Damsel in the Legion. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:56] Speaker A: And when Mark Wade did his version of the legion in the 2000s, which was a complete restart of the book. Complete. Like, completely different. Made it completely different. He tried to take some different takes on some of the characters, and one of the takes was that learned Durgo Triplicate Girl did exactly what you just said, and she just had a whole planet of herself, and she was keeping that a secret. [00:04:24] Speaker B: Think about that, though. If you had a planet yourself and. [00:04:27] Speaker A: You were like, be terrible. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Would it be terrible? [00:04:32] Speaker A: I mean, highly efficient. [00:04:33] Speaker B: It would be highly efficient for one. For you. But then you could, like, always. You could always be running all the things that you wanted to at the same time, and it would always be great. Like, you would have a comic book store that was exactly the way you wanted it to be. You could have a Radio Shack, fully operational and functioning. [00:04:52] Speaker A: People that came would buy all the comic books that I like, and I'd have to replace all of those all the time. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Oh, man. What if you opened a store that nobody liked except for one version of you? [00:05:06] Speaker A: Well, we don't know about. There's not. That's the trick. See the clones. I don't know. You're. You're giving away. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Well, we're not talking about clones. We're talking about. We're talking about duplicates. They're just different clones. Clones is like cloning one thing from another thing. Duplicating is like a Xerox machine or a. [00:05:30] Speaker A: This is. [00:05:30] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Let's Go one step back. What's the machine that gave you purple hands, Dan? [00:05:39] Speaker A: Well, you can clone yourself or you can duplicate yourself. It's just. He has the power of self replication. So if you want to say it's a Xerox machine, but I don't think it is. You're not copying his. The functionality of the power is more like clones, though, because I'm thinking more. [00:05:56] Speaker B: Of a ditto machine. [00:05:57] Speaker A: And it depends on who writes it. Right. So I'm gonna take this back and be serious for a second. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Okay. [00:06:02] Speaker A: But when it's. It's an interesting power because I do think Peter David writes it in a really cool way where they become more like clones than duplicates. Right. They're not like the. The last thing he was in the X corpse or whatever. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Was stupid because they just made. They made them like you were describing, like a Xerox machine. Like, how many Jamies do we need to run? [00:06:25] Speaker B: Each one was doing. Just doing different things, but they were. [00:06:28] Speaker A: All the same person, all running the facility. Peter David writes it more like they are clones, that they're going out and doing different things. They have slightly different personalities and slightly different interests. But then when they reims reabsorb, Jamie takes on part of that personality and knowledge. [00:06:45] Speaker B: Right, Gotcha. [00:06:47] Speaker A: And so I. I mean, I do think that's. Personally, I think that's a way more interesting way so. Because the title of the last episode was Now Dan likes clones, which is only true in this case. I don't like them all the time. [00:07:01] Speaker B: You don't want to leave him a clone now? [00:07:04] Speaker A: No. So we're not going to do the clone jokes again. We've done clone. [00:07:07] Speaker B: No, no. But here. Here lies the question, though. I mean, if indeed it is more like a situation where they're creating a. A similar personality, but it's there. It's a singular personality that is slightly similar. Kind of like you have twins that are not identical, but they're. [00:07:34] Speaker A: What if they are identical? They still have slightly different personalities. [00:07:38] Speaker B: I mean, like a fraternal twin. Right. They're similar but different. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Well, these would be more like identical twins, though, that just. Or different circumstances. [00:07:47] Speaker B: So like triplets, quadruplets, do you think? [00:07:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Do, do, do. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Do they get like, what is the. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Well, I guess the question is, is, do they absorb ours like mad rocks? Does if one. It didn't. [00:08:07] Speaker A: No, I don't know what you're talking about. Now. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Do the. Do the. Do the. Do the. Do do people in general that have twins, triplets, sex, Tuplets, quintuplets, whatever it may be. Do they share powers? [00:08:26] Speaker A: Yes. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Or. Or I. Those types of. Do they. Do they. [00:08:32] Speaker A: They don't share powers, but they have the same. They have the same genetic makeup. [00:08:36] Speaker B: But I mean, like, what if they had experience? [00:08:39] Speaker A: You'll do the same thing. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Not exactly experiences, but like, I mean, what if, like, you know, they pass on those types of things back and forth? Like, you know, I mean, there's been documented in some ways, but do we know exactly. [00:08:52] Speaker A: No, we don't. But I don't know what point you're making. Like, I have not. No idea. This conversation is going. Yes. Which is. Okay, so we're going to talk about where I'm going now. [00:09:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:03] Speaker A: Instead of Greg's theory on twins and rebirth, perhaps you should explore your theory on twins in a future issue of Junior Braves of the Apocalypse. [00:09:13] Speaker B: We do. [00:09:15] Speaker A: I know. Anyway. [00:09:18] Speaker B: Should too. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Yes, but a future issue should explain it more. Oh, you can't. [00:09:23] Speaker B: We can't. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Anyway. Well, you could. No, because if twins had powers, then you really could. [00:09:32] Speaker B: No, because there's no survivors. [00:09:34] Speaker A: There's always survivors. Anyway. All right, it's a comic book, so. [00:09:38] Speaker B: It'S based on real life. [00:09:39] Speaker A: Dan, it is not based on. Okay, so anyway, Madrox. Cool cover. All right, so, Greg, I ask you. [00:09:47] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Alone, you are mighty. Together, you are Legends. X Men legends for the PlayStation 2 thumbs up or thumbs down? [00:09:58] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Wait. X men Legends for PlayStation 2. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Yes. [00:10:03] Speaker B: I give it a thumbs up. I give it a thumbs up. I give it a thumbs up. [00:10:07] Speaker A: Are you sure? [00:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna give this one a thumbs up because we're starting here. This is the base. This is the baseline. Okay. [00:10:15] Speaker A: We're probably. I don't think I have enough to rank this issue, but we'll just do a thumbs up. Thumbs down. All right. X Men Legends. Greg. Recommend. Highly. Recommends only for the N Gage. [00:10:27] Speaker B: Only for the Engage. No. [00:10:29] Speaker A: All right, Jamie has made it to Chicago and he's found a reporter guy getting beat up. [00:10:37] Speaker B: He's getting a Chicago dog. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah. He's talking to some guy. He's getting beat up by some guy who likes Mr. Compete. Yeah, I don't think he's getting a Chicago dog. [00:10:51] Speaker B: Steve Buscemi's getting beat up. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Steve. Steve Buscemi is getting beat up. He looks like Steve Buscemi. He does look like Steve Buscemi. Well, Madrox walks in just in time to stop the beat up. And in his thought bubbles, he says, late at night, in a city celebrated for Its criminal learnings. Leanings. Learnings. Yeah. Probably in this case, Chicago guy getting roughed up. Suddenly the hero shows up out of nowhere to save the day. Or who knows? That's how we start the story. And Jamie makes a comment that he's come into this film noir and the hood that is beating up the reporter says, enwr. What the heck is Anwar? And one of the fellow gangsters says he's referring to the film noir, a French term literally meaning dark film pertaining to the 1950s crime movies noted for their cynical, amoral characters in a sleazy setting pervaded in a sense of hopelessness. And the other guy just says, shut up. It just proves that nerds are everywhere. [00:12:07] Speaker B: It's true. [00:12:10] Speaker A: But anyway, this guy. Oh, I have to say. [00:12:13] Speaker B: I have to say. [00:12:13] Speaker A: You have to say. [00:12:14] Speaker B: I have to say that Mad Rock. You have to say Mad Rocks. Upon reading this, I. He looks like Mac from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Okay, I've never watched that show, but I mean, I know it exists and I've seen the characters, but I've never watched it. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Anybody listening? Just, like, go take a look at the. Just like, take a look at Mad. Take a look at Jimmy Madrock from this particular run, and then take a look at Mac from Always Sunny and then just put him face side by side. Facial. [00:12:49] Speaker A: You went to Philadelphia? [00:12:51] Speaker B: Oh, it's not Always Sunny, but it's super friendly. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Listeners from Philadelphia. Greg is lying. You know that? Write in to tell him how much he's lying. [00:13:04] Speaker B: It's a city of brotherly love. They got great cheese steaks. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Don't they throw, like, batteries at people there? Anyway? Yeah, they do. [00:13:12] Speaker B: And they have great cheese sticks. And house music all night long. House music all night long. [00:13:20] Speaker A: I. [00:13:22] Speaker B: But they Big house. Anyways. Anyway. [00:13:26] Speaker A: I don't know what's happening right now. As usual. [00:13:29] Speaker B: As usual. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Anyway, the gangster with the tattoos on his head punches Jamie a whole bunch of times and makes a whole bunch of Mad Roxes. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. And then they. They all fight the gangster of love. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Well, I need a thumbs up or a thumbs down for you. Okay. Transformers Energon, two arch rivals and two awesome DVDs. [00:13:58] Speaker B: Oh, that is a thumbs up. That is a thumbs up. [00:14:05] Speaker A: All right, well, we'll continue with the story. That's thumbs up. You were about to explain why, and I'm like, ah, we'll continue. [00:14:14] Speaker B: It's Transformers, Dan. [00:14:17] Speaker A: Not all Transformers is good. You've heard of this person named Michael Bay? [00:14:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And this is not that. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Yes. This is cartoons. [00:14:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Okay. So Madrock scares off the gangsters by punching them. He punches them and scaring them. And then the guy he's talking to, he starts cleaning him up and looking at his pretty mouth. At least one of the clones does. [00:14:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. See, not all the clones. Everybody's different. They all got their own personalities. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Apparently one of them, like a Steve Buscemi type. [00:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, hey, you're looking pretty cute. [00:14:59] Speaker A: And then he absorbs them all back into him, and then they have this Chicago dog. No, there's no. No, that's not funny. So it's not funny. No. Okay. So I don't know why it's not funny. It's just not funny today. I don't know. Okay. I'm grumpy today. I guess. I don't know how. [00:15:23] Speaker B: See, I was grumpy earlier, and I. [00:15:25] Speaker A: Was trying to get the grumpy mood. I'm just sore, okay? [00:15:28] Speaker B: Sore. So, Dan. Sore. [00:15:30] Speaker A: It's my fault, literally, not figuratively. [00:15:32] Speaker B: I made dance. [00:15:33] Speaker A: It's not your fault. It's the fault of the person that crashed into me with their car because they don't know how to see an intersection and understand that lights are, you know, when they're green. [00:15:44] Speaker B: You're not allowed to talk about it. You're not allowed to talk about it. You're not allowed to talk about it. [00:15:48] Speaker A: I can talk about it because the person illegally ran a light. That is on paper. That is the one part I can talk about because it's in a police report. The video doesn't matter. It's literally in a police report. I can talk about that and also say that I hurt a lot. Now, this person also is hurt a lot because he was getting beat up. But he is on here, and he says they're talking about stuff, and they decide whether or not they want to go after this gangster that tried to kill Jamie. So we're kind of summarizing up the pages, by the way, the film noir art style. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:32] Speaker A: Are you gyrating in hopes of trying. [00:16:36] Speaker B: To make you laugh. [00:16:37] Speaker A: I'm just like. I'm trying to figure out why it's going on now. All right, well, we're about to have another big thumbs up here, but. All right, before we get to the big thumbs up. [00:16:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:49] Speaker A: We get back to that guy with the white hair and the white tattoos. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Kill Madrox. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that guy. [00:17:00] Speaker A: And he thinks he killed him, but he didn't. And he's on top of the Empire State Building, and he looks like he's about to kill somebody else who's happily looking off the Empire state building. And they're like, oh, you gotta kill all the Jamie duplicates now. He's like, fine, man. [00:17:13] Speaker B: That's a lot of work. [00:17:15] Speaker A: And so he was supposed to kill this guy. So he throws him off the top of the Empire state building, and then we get an advertisement. These are the worst advertisements ever. Honestly. [00:17:30] Speaker B: What it's it for? What's it for? [00:17:31] Speaker A: For the amazing. The Eminem candy bar. [00:17:35] Speaker B: Oh, man. Eminem candy bar. Like, I very, very like. I. I minimally remember that. It's like, hey, let's take a candy and put it inside of a bar. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Bar. Yeah. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Of chocolate. That's already a chocolate candy. That's as a good and dumb idea at the same time. [00:17:57] Speaker A: And then they also ran the worst advertising campaign for them too. Putting theoretical redheads from the 70s being happy about themselves. I don't. I don't get it. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Who's the redhead that they put in there? [00:18:09] Speaker A: Is it thumbs down? [00:18:10] Speaker B: It's just thumbs down. Thumbs down. [00:18:13] Speaker A: We're not even gonna analyze this anymore. [00:18:14] Speaker B: We're not even. We're telling you funny book forensics right now dislikes Eminem's candy. [00:18:21] Speaker A: Dislikes the advertisements. And Eminem candy bars. We like Eminem's, though. [00:18:25] Speaker B: We like Eminem's. They're delicious. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Well, we get back after we see Jamie in Chicago, and we've got Rain Sinclair and Guido Strong guy. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:37] Speaker A: And a duplicate of Jamie. And he's fixing the triple X extra X. Triple X investigations. Triple X investigations. Say that five times fast. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Triple X investigations. Triple X investigations. Triple X investigations. Triple X investigations. Triple X investigations. Triple X investigations. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah. You started to lose it there? [00:18:59] Speaker B: No. [00:18:59] Speaker A: So it's. Anyway, they hang up on and they see. And they get there again. They get a client, and before we can learn about this client, we have an advertisement for thumbs up or thumbs down. MTV's Viva La Bam. Season one and Wild Boys. The first complete season, man. [00:19:24] Speaker B: CKYK for life. But Viva la Bam. Yeah. [00:19:29] Speaker A: So thumbs down. [00:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, like, I'm sure somebody out there likes it, but I mean, I like the OG C K Y K. [00:19:38] Speaker A: You know, I don't know what any of this is. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Cky2k. That is when they went jackass person. It was like when they were. [00:19:47] Speaker A: They. [00:19:48] Speaker B: When they were doing all their like straight to video skateboard video tapes and stuff like that. That was like pre mtv before they got the money and before they were popular and they're just throwing on the ground and, you know, breaking Pottery Stevo. Yeah, there's. It's. It's. Yeah, it's. Before they got a cast of characters and people. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Okay, Donnie Knoxville. I'm sure this was the inspiration for all my balls. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Yes. Stuff like that definitely inspired that bit. Or. Or that bit inspired this. I. I don't really know, because I. [00:20:34] Speaker A: Think that I. I fired Idiocracy. Yeah. [00:20:38] Speaker B: I think Idiocracy became. I think Idiocracy came first. [00:20:42] Speaker A: What's happening? [00:20:44] Speaker B: And then this happened. Or that happened, and then we're living it now because people are doing stupider stuff. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Well, anyway, Jamie has somebody come into the agency named Carol Campbell, and her husband and her live in Mutant Town, and she wants soup to investigate because he thinks he's cheating on her. [00:21:07] Speaker B: Oh, this is not. [00:21:09] Speaker A: And then I think I finally found another thumbs down, too. Can we get an advertisement for Spider Man 2 skateboards and scooters? [00:21:18] Speaker B: Oh, man. I mean, honestly, a movie tie in, but on a skateboard or scooter, just to have it minty and, like, you know, in box, the scooter would be cool because I would, like, pull that thing out and be like, oh, look at that. That's cool. Maybe the skateboard is kind of neat and stuff like that. Keep it with. [00:21:38] Speaker A: I feel like corporate skateboards defeat the culture. [00:21:42] Speaker B: It does defeat the culture, but it's memorabilia for those people who grew up as children during that time frame. They're like, oh, my gosh. I mean, like, dude, I got my Back to the Future deck. It's not the OG One that I remember my friend having when we were kids. But, like, when Joan Soda did a remake of it, I was like, well, I'll buy one. [00:22:05] Speaker A: There are a lot of advertisements in this comic book. [00:22:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we'll keep going through them. Let's go. [00:22:11] Speaker A: There are a lot. Well, anyway, Carol shares that her husband is sleeping around with somebody with a woman named Kim. And Kim, we find out that he's a quadriplegic, and he's astral projecting to sleep around on her dirty dog. Jamie's like, this is a terrific mystery for us to solve. We do get the same Halloween costumes we got last time. The Captain America Sentinel of Liberty costume. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:22:41] Speaker A: You know, which looks much more like the Tick than. It does it does. [00:22:45] Speaker B: It honestly does look like the tick. So, Mr. Yellow Button, are we gonna go see him? What? [00:22:54] Speaker A: People. And now we're ready for another advertisement. Oh, let's see now. Definitely. Definitely a show that does not belong in ABC Family anymore. Especially since that Network doesn't exist. But are you ready? [00:23:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm ready. [00:23:09] Speaker A: You can now see it from the beginning. Smallville is available on ABC Family. [00:23:16] Speaker B: Oh, wow, wow, wow. [00:23:19] Speaker A: Now I would like to see where you rate Smallville. [00:23:24] Speaker B: You know, honestly. Okay. Smallville was one of those shows when it first came out. I had a coworker, my first big boy job, my big, my big, my big person job, if you will, out of college working at a major airplane manufacturer. And my coworker's husband at the time. I don't know if they're married or not still, but my coworker at the time, this is a long time ago, but they were, they were excited about Smallville and she was like, I don't know why he's so excited. And I'm like, because it's, it's like, you know, it's young Clark Kent, Superman. And she goes, that's exactly what he said. I don't understand what that means. And I'm like, you married a nerd. You should just be happy that he's, he settled for a six. [00:24:20] Speaker A: Yep. Wow. I liked Smallville very much. I didn't know where you stood on Smallville. No, I, I, I really liked it. Now, now, you know, history, history is like. But I had all the seasons. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:36] Speaker A: And it was the first, you know, I was at season seven or season eight, which is the first live action Legion of Superheroes. So, you know, I was excited about that. Obviously, I don't know what Tom Welling is doing with his brain. [00:24:53] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:24:54] Speaker A: I mean, he's better than the previous Superman. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:59] Speaker A: He's better than Dean Cain, that's for sure. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:25:02] Speaker A: I, I, where they find these actors for these shows is beyond me. [00:25:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:07] Speaker A: And of course, you know, one of the actors is participating in the Chicago sexcapades that are in this book right here. So. [00:25:15] Speaker B: Huh. [00:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Well, I mean, isn't, yeah. One of them is in jail, so. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Isn't she out of jail? [00:25:26] Speaker B: Oh, she's out of jail now. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Well, anyway, enough Smallville, not Smallville cast. [00:25:32] Speaker B: One of them, One of them went on from playing a, a small recurring role occasionally, like maybe three episodes to having a full fledged their own show now. [00:25:47] Speaker A: He had a much more bigger recurring role. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Did he have his own, did he have a bigger than. Yeah, just, just like four episodes of Aquaman. [00:25:56] Speaker A: Oh, no, you're talking about Aquaman. [00:25:58] Speaker B: How many, how many Aquaman episodes were there? [00:26:00] Speaker A: I was thinking of somebody else on the show anyway. [00:26:03] Speaker B: No, I Mean, there was a lot of. [00:26:04] Speaker A: There's a lot of people on that show that went on to do things. Yeah. [00:26:07] Speaker B: But the. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Actually, there is a podcast. Michael Rosenbaum and. And Tom Welling have a podcast to read to the show. Trying to, like, get back some. Yeah, they do. [00:26:19] Speaker B: That's cool. I'd listen. I should listen to that. [00:26:22] Speaker A: I would listen. I just haven't got around to listening to it. So before I make too much, I. I like. We should. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. [00:26:30] Speaker A: We should listen to their podcast listeners. [00:26:32] Speaker B: We should listen to their podcast and review their podcast on the episodes that they review. Oh, my gosh. What a podcast idea in which you review the podcast episode of the episode. Review. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So you're every crappy YouTube creator. You know what we do, too? We play parts of that podcast while analyzing it while we play people making paper mache in another video on the side of it. [00:26:56] Speaker B: We only do one minute at a time, and we break it down one. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Minute at a time called One Minute Ville. [00:27:06] Speaker B: One Minute Ville sounds great. [00:27:10] Speaker A: You know, DC Comics had a whole storyline called the One Minute War in Flash, like a year and a half. [00:27:14] Speaker B: Ago, you know, but then the only people that be like would follow. Like, they would be all excited about it are like, dudes in their 50s thinking that it's like a podcast for them that are like, oh, hey, cool, there's a bunch of other guys like me. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. That are One Minute Guys. Anyway, come on, you're no selling me on all my. [00:27:40] Speaker B: All my terrible jokes. [00:27:42] Speaker A: The. Well, I just made my own terrible joke. So we go back to Chicago and we get a bunch of Jamie dialogue. Stringer and I met back in the X Factor days, and we've kept in touch while I have him. Him. He's always afraid I'll out him. I can imagine that. Being so afraid of what people might think of you that you have to keep your true nature under wraps. Then again, when you have it in your power to never be alone, fears of being shunned aren't a big priority. So he explains him about Reabsoria being the stab duplicate. They get into the story, they start to do some investigation, they end up back at the newspaper, and we get an advertisement for Marvel TCG Deluxe 10's Trading Card Versus game. Where did you sit on Versus, Man? [00:28:36] Speaker B: You know what's funny is, is this is like there's a slight resurgence. Not because it's like I. Where I sat at the time. I wasn't playing TCGs except for maybe I played magic with like you and Bill once or twice. [00:28:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Honestly, like, and, and that was like you guys made me a deck to. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Play with and I think we were done playing long before the verses came out. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And I might play in it. [00:29:04] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:29:05] Speaker B: I might have played, I might have played a couple of the vampire games that were out or the wolf. The wolf. The, the werewolf game. But this came out well after that. So this was like whatever. But now people are like finding these cards and they're like, oh my God, I found a thing. It's whatever. [00:29:36] Speaker A: It'll be hero clicks. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Man, I can't wait. I'm gonna cash in. I'm gonna cash in so big. [00:29:47] Speaker A: I had, I think Palmer and I had the MLB Showdown game. I think that only one, one year though. [00:29:54] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:29:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean it's collectible. [00:29:57] Speaker B: Well, I, I like Star Trek. One did not like, it was, it was cool, but it wasn't. [00:30:04] Speaker A: I have a bunch of those too, I think. Didn't you tell me to buy them so we could play the game? [00:30:08] Speaker B: I, I, no, I said Star wars because Henry was trying to get a bunch of people to play Star Wars. [00:30:12] Speaker A: No, no, I mean like now, like, like five years ago. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Didn't you? [00:30:16] Speaker A: A bunch. [00:30:16] Speaker B: Oh well, cuz I, cuz like I had, I, well, I had a bunch. I was like, hey, who wants to play? I'll play with you because if you get some, I'll play. [00:30:25] Speaker A: Or did I give them a hand? I probably garage. You know, we could do that live. That would be fun. Well anyway, gosh, who wants to see that? [00:30:34] Speaker B: Dan and Greg playing Star Trek. [00:30:37] Speaker A: I really do. Like of course, you know, they reissued a bunch of the D.C. deck building and I like that because. But the deck building game, you buy this, you buy the box and you have everything. Yeah. [00:30:50] Speaker B: And it's just like. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Yeah. You're not drafting. [00:30:53] Speaker B: It's a constant draft game, right? Yeah. I mean you get the, the deck is there, you're constantly drafting off of it and you're, you're pulling your cards to make your. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Drafting isn't the term I would use, but yes. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Okay. What do you, what do you call. [00:31:06] Speaker A: Drafting is when you Drawing, Drawing, Drawing, drafting, drawing, whatever. Well no, drafting to me is like drafting your best. Well, I guess you do draft off the playing board technically. [00:31:23] Speaker B: That's not how it's so similar, but different. [00:31:26] Speaker A: So I think you're correct. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Kind of like any of these Mad Rocks. [00:31:29] Speaker A: You know what? [00:31:29] Speaker B: You're probably the duplicates of Mad Rocks are Similar. [00:31:33] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we get some more Mad Rock's thoughts. Mad. Mad. Mad Rock's thoughts. [00:31:41] Speaker B: Mad Rock. [00:31:42] Speaker A: Stringer pretends. Stringer pretends he's a cynic. That's okay. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, so he is Steve Buscemi. [00:31:51] Speaker A: How he disguises his basic optimism. Well, he's every character Steve Buscemi plays. I don't know what Steve Buscemi is like in real life. [00:31:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:32:01] Speaker A: I can relate. I make jokes, crack wise, grin like a fool. Anyway, they find this lady on Sheila Dodo, longtime lover of Edward Vance, who is a multi million dollar industrialist. Hi. To organized crime. So they're going to go track this lady down because he thinks he was getting his mad rocks on with her as a Duke vice president's wife. No. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Oh. [00:32:29] Speaker A: That'D be a different kind of mad rocks. That show got canceled because the actor was. [00:32:35] Speaker B: Oh, oh, I see. [00:32:38] Speaker A: Well, he became president, didn't he? [00:32:40] Speaker B: That. That was a different show altogether. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a completely different show. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Designated Survivor. Now that's a theory, by the way. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Movies that don't hold up. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:53] Speaker A: What? You know what? Let's. Let's play a super fun game because you want me to tell jokes, so I'm going to tell jokes in Dan fashion now. [00:33:02] Speaker B: Oh, God. [00:33:03] Speaker A: What holds up worse? Okay, Smallville or American Beauty? [00:33:12] Speaker B: American Beauty. American Beauty holds up worse than Smallville. Although, I mean, they're like equally balanced. That's a tough. That's. That's tough because you got two. Two actors that were actively part of a situation or cult. That one was convicted and one was. I didn't know what was going on, so I didn't. I. I can't really be held accountable for all this stuff. But I was part of the thing. But I wasn't actively part of the thing, although I was actively part of. I was as part of the sales part, but not the other. [00:33:55] Speaker A: In American Beauty, he goes for that guy's daughter. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah. [00:34:01] Speaker A: That's gross. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I was talking like the real life situations. [00:34:05] Speaker A: All right? I'm saying that the movie ends up almost being like the real life situation. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, but where in Smallville you just have, like. They just sell Amway. They just sell Amway. Yeah, well, but they turned people into Amway in real life. [00:34:23] Speaker A: Right, but then the character was always trying to solve, like, mysteries. Right? [00:34:27] Speaker B: Uhhuh. But they were creating weirs. [00:34:31] Speaker A: But also with Smallville, DC Comics was actively trying to get that character into the comic books. [00:34:38] Speaker B: Uhhuh. But they never Got in? [00:34:43] Speaker A: Well, no, they did. And then all the stuff started happening. [00:34:46] Speaker B: And then they got out. Yeah, no, but I mean, like, with. With American Beauty, it, like, it was like the weird, like, mirror effect of like, hey, this is. Although it's a different mirror optically. [00:35:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Weird film noir shit. Just like our comic here. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. This person is actively doing this in the movie, but they're actively doing this in real life. It's just with a different. They're a different person. Yeah. And they're. And they're gross. And they've been doing this for quite some time, apparently. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Well, I feel like this comic is a little bit gross, too, in the sense of. I like the story, but it's weird that Jamie is obsessing over this lady. [00:35:36] Speaker B: Well, he's trying to get to. He's trying to get to. He's trying to understand why and how is she important, but he says she's. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Definitely to die for. So is he trying to track her down as part of the story, or is he trying to, like, get together with her? [00:35:53] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe he knows something that he doesn't know that he knows, if you know what I mean. [00:36:01] Speaker A: Okay. I have a thumbs down, by the way. [00:36:03] Speaker B: What's that? [00:36:05] Speaker A: The official Marvel collecting catalog. [00:36:08] Speaker B: Oh, boo. Yeah. I mean, like, it's. It. They could say it's official, and they could say it's the collecting catalog, but we all know what's really collectible and what's not, and everything they put in there is not collected. [00:36:21] Speaker A: Was this, like, Post Dynamic Forces or was this. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Oh, that was Dynamic? [00:36:27] Speaker A: Dynamic Forces still happens. Dynamic Forces still happens, right? They're still selling stuff. [00:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Well, anyway. [00:36:34] Speaker B: No. Buenos. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Flip the page. Our. Our friend, the murderer has tracked down the cabbie that took home the Mad Rocks in New York. [00:36:46] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:47] Speaker A: And he puts a gun on him, and he's like, ah, you're going to tell me everything about what you heard. [00:36:52] Speaker B: He's like, give me the info. [00:36:54] Speaker A: And then, thumbs up, we get the Joe. Joe Cubert School of Art. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Hey. Yeah. [00:37:02] Speaker A: I'm supposed to be asking you if it's a thumbs up or not. And I'm just. [00:37:05] Speaker B: It's a thumb. I'm gonna say it's a thumbs. No, it's a thumbs up. It's. It's. There's an irony to it, because I know a lot of people that went to Savannah to go to. To scad, And I know a lot of people that went to Joe Cubert School of Art, and it's. It's interesting The. The two different schools of thought, if you will, that come out of going to those two different. Two different schools. So depending on where you went, I had two different editors that went to one editor that went to one school and one editor that went to a different school. And the type of interactions I got on projects was you would think editors are across the board, but they have very different processes based off of how they learn things. So it's really interesting and it's really neat to be able to pick the brains on things. [00:38:02] Speaker A: Well, in that advertisement, it said that Carl Kiesel went to the Joe Kubert School. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:38:08] Speaker A: And he also made Impossible Jones. [00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And I have that book right on the other side of the table over here. [00:38:17] Speaker A: So there you go. I gave you something cool on Saturday, and you haven't even looked at it. [00:38:23] Speaker B: You. How do you know I haven't looked at it? [00:38:25] Speaker A: I brought it home because you would have talked about it. [00:38:27] Speaker B: I brought it home with me so I could look at it when I have a chance. Tomorrow. Tomorrow is my day for looking at things. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Tomorrow. Like a book made by Tomorrow's that. [00:38:42] Speaker B: You picked up on my Tomorrow. [00:38:44] Speaker A: I see. Yes, yes. Tomorrow's did a big crisis cover and a whole issue dedicated to George Perez. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's actually. It's crazy to think. It's interesting to think it's been 40 years since. Since that book came out. [00:39:03] Speaker A: Makes feel old, don't it? It does. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Because, honestly, it was like, another 15. It was like, it came out 40 years ago, but then it was like 15 years later when I actually laid eyes on it and was like, oh, hey, you know, because, like, when I was like, oh, what's this about? You know, let me. Let me get into this. Let me, like, actually read this and pay attention to it as opposed to whatever, you know, some book. [00:39:30] Speaker A: And I was reading the Legion books at the time, but I didn't have the money to go buy the Crisis books, but I was aware of Crisis happening, so I had to, like, go skim back on the books later. You know, I think. I think I had. For years. I had all of them. I had read it because somebody let me read it, but I had all of them except the Death of Supergirl 1 with the iconic cover, But I have it now. But, yeah, it's. I had to skim them back together. Yeah, I remember that. It was crazy. Well, I had the. The Legion, the saddest Legion book ever. I've shown on the podcast before, but with Brainiac 5 crying, the Legion Cover with super gold being shot in the background. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, anyway, back to this book. I didn't want to get us distracted by crisis, but I brought it up. [00:40:19] Speaker B: But you brought it up, and that's the crisis we're in now. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Well, Jamie does this really cool thing where he makes a bunch of duplicates and he climbs a wall over into the big est. The gangsters. [00:40:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:30] Speaker A: And then on the way down, he reabsorbs all of them, and he's starting to notice different things about his duplicates. Right. They're all arguing with him, like, so some are like, oh, well, you shouldn't be going after this other person's, you know, girl, you get what you deserve. And they're talking about sending, like, one's saying that. And then one says, you're a wuss. He was one of us. We should send the other. Send this person to the morgue. And then another one says, and yet does not endless cycle of violence accomplish nothing except its own perpetuation? And the other one says, is anything good on TV tonight? So they all seem to be getting kind of a different level, not just of, like, morals, but also intelligence, I guess, throughout the duplicates. We're not going to call them clones, but again, that's why I was saying they're acting more like clones. Right. They sort of have this independent piece of them. I really like this. [00:41:26] Speaker B: They're unique, and that's what makes them fun. It reminds me of the. The Michael Keaton movie where he's got all the. Was it duplicity? [00:41:42] Speaker A: Duplicity. [00:41:43] Speaker B: Multiplicity. Multiplicity. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Multiplicity. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And each one of them is a different version of him, and they have different characteristics. [00:41:53] Speaker A: And one of them is Batman. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Yeah, one of them is Batman. And the other one is like, you know, Juice. Yeah. And one of them is like, Mr. Mom. [00:42:02] Speaker A: And then one of them disappears for 20 years before they make another good. [00:42:06] Speaker B: Movie and becomes a birdman. [00:42:11] Speaker A: But, yeah, no, I would think, like, Yeah, I think I also, you know, this is an interesting concept because, like, you could, you know, if it became popular, right. Like the. Well, we know in the future you get an X Factor series because we're living now, and we didn't know that this at the time that this book was put out. But the. You could almost have spinoffs, right, of the X Factor series. Like, you could do a miniseries of, like, Jamie going to do this or. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Jamie going to do that, but as a different Jamie. Right, yeah, that. That would be so cool. And then you don't know which one it is. Until all of a sudden, he absorbs them at the end, and it's like, what did I learn? [00:42:52] Speaker A: Yep. [00:42:53] Speaker B: And then another one dies, and he's got to go figure out why. [00:42:59] Speaker A: Well, we find all. We do find out all about the fact that he had one to go become a Shaolin monk because he's using magic Shaolin powers to avoid cameras, which I didn't know Shaolin Mok monks could avoid cameras. [00:43:13] Speaker B: Have you seen, like, you've only seen the. The. The. A few that are able to get photos of them, but have you seen all of them in a photo together? [00:43:23] Speaker A: I don't know, but this guy's reading a newspaper that says Magneto alive question mark. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Oh, Mile High Comics. Hey, look at that. Always overpriced. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Sideways. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Sideways. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:38] Speaker A: You know, I did like, when he got in the fight with. I did like when Chuck got in the fight with San Diego Comic Con and called him out for pricing vendors out. I thought that was fair. So that's why I'm gonna give a thumbs up just because of that. [00:43:53] Speaker B: I can't give him a. I. I. It's like I. I have to give him a. A thumb. I. I want to go there so bad. I just haven't got a chance to. You've been there. So you could give them a thumbs whatever you want to give them. [00:44:03] Speaker A: I mean. Well, I've been to their. I didn't go to their original store. I went to their warehouse store, which is super cool. And they had, you know, they have a bunch of things. You know, my. When I was a kid, I bought stuff from Mile High because you could open the little book, and they had the graded versions, and, you know, it was before the Internet, so. Well, anyway, Jamie shows up. [00:44:26] Speaker B: There was a time before the Internet. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Jamie shows up at a pool, and the Sheila lady is swimming. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:35] Speaker A: And she looks at him and says, james, we get another advertisement for these things called checks. We won't rate this one. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Oh, man. Checks. It's not just for breakfast. [00:44:48] Speaker A: Did I mention that there's a lot of advertisements in this book, and it's really disrupting to the storytelling because they pay for them. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Need to pay some bills. [00:44:57] Speaker A: I don't know how much was this book? This was. This book was three bucks. This was $2.99. I don't think they needed to pay for anything. And this is the direct edition. Like, do they need this much advertising? Anyway, she runs up to Jamie and says, oh, thank God you're alive. Blah, blah, blah. They kiss. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Thank heaven for 7:11. [00:45:15] Speaker A: And then we flip back to New York, and our assassin guy tries to shoot duplicate Jamie through the window. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Damn. [00:45:27] Speaker A: And when he shoots him, main Jamie, I mean James, falls into the pool, and it says, to be continued. We don't know what's going on except he might drown. And then we get another advertisement because it's the end of the book. [00:45:48] Speaker B: What for? [00:45:48] Speaker A: Or atmosphere, the DVD board game. [00:45:53] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. [00:45:59] Speaker A: I don't know what this is. [00:46:00] Speaker B: Oh, if you don't know, I can't explain it. And if you don't, if you never played it before. Oh, thumbs up, people. [00:46:08] Speaker A: It's no stratomatic baseball, that's for sure. [00:46:10] Speaker B: That's true. It's not. But if you like. If you like scary stuff and you like a little freaky deaky, you like, choose your intervention. You like board games. This is that thing. I'm pretty sure, as we've moved into a time frame in which, you know, a lot of people don't have DVDs and stuff like that, you could probably find this ripped onto YouTube and you could probably play the game via YouTube and it'll probably, you know, find a PDF at the board or whatever. [00:46:38] Speaker A: Maybe we should do that at game night. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Holy cats. Why don't we do that? [00:46:44] Speaker A: Well, okay. And then the back cover here, I know is the reason we didn't rank this time, because I already knew what you would rank number one. [00:46:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:46:54] Speaker A: I'm guessing I could be wrong. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Thumbs up or thumbs down. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, we have an advertisement for Fable on Xbox. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Oh, thumbs up. Of course, if you don't have Fable. If you don't have Fable 1, where. How do you get to all the other Fable games? [00:47:11] Speaker A: Well, I figured that you would rank that above all the other things in the book, so I didn't bother to do our ranking because, I mean, it's. [00:47:17] Speaker B: Not like I don't have them all over yonder. [00:47:20] Speaker A: I knew what you would rank number one in my. [00:47:22] Speaker B: My Xbox cabinet. [00:47:25] Speaker A: As you hear, the plastic bag here as put in my comic book away. Greg. [00:47:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Where are we at in our story? What are you thinking here with Mad Ross? [00:47:33] Speaker B: I'm really loving it. I'm liking that you brought this to us to read. This is a great Peter David book. It's something that, honestly, if you're not reading this, if you haven't read it, people go and find it. You can get it on marvel.com, which I usually dislike. Yeah, it's been reprinted. I usually dislike navigating the website. But it's really easy to find because it's a miniseries. You just pull up Madrox, you find the miniseries, you look up Peter David. It's really easy to find. Therefore I give it a thumbs up. But outside of that, it's a definite must read. It's something that you should. Should check out if. If you haven't checked it out already because it's just a really good, fun story. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Well, I sat down and read all of it. I'd read issue one already, but I read all the rest of it last night. I had to sit down. I finished in like an hour. Right. It's less than an hour. I think it's really good. It's. It'll grab you. You'll keep reading. Yeah, I like it. I mean, we did that Nathaniel Dusk a couple years ago. Yeah, like three years ago now. But yeah, that was. That was fun in a different way. But I really like this. It's. It's interesting. New spin on the character. That's why I picked it out. I wanted to grab something that Peter David did that I think a lot of people know about. I mean, he wore the Madarock shirt all over the place. Right. So obviously he liked the character. And so I wanted to honor something he liked, but also something I think is just a really good story. So I'm glad you're enjoying it. I think the art, the COVID art picks up on this one. I think it's much better than the first issue. And I think the interior art is really great. [00:49:20] Speaker B: Oh, it's so good. [00:49:21] Speaker A: I gotta give some credit to Brian Reber, the colorist too. The way this is colored. Really. The scenes. Especially, like sometimes comics in this sort of dark tone when they're at night can be really monotonous. [00:49:36] Speaker B: Yeah. But it pops. [00:49:38] Speaker A: And. And with Greg, they're tiring, as you just saw. They're. They're tiring. [00:49:42] Speaker B: I'm so tired. I'm sorry, everybody, but I get up at 3 o' clock in the morning and it is like so late right now. Keeps me up to record these episodes. [00:49:53] Speaker A: I was just gonna say these. It is not that late, first off. And second off, I. I really like how it kind of goes, how the colors on this really goes. He really lightens and brightens the book depending on the scene. Yeah. And immediately, especially the contrast here since there are no page numbers. I can't tell you what page it is on, which is extremely frustrating. And we're gonna blame that on. Are we blaming that on Corey Pettit? The letter or Pablo Raimondi the pencil. [00:50:25] Speaker B: I think we blame it on format comic, and. [00:50:31] Speaker A: I blame it on Brett. [00:50:33] Speaker B: You blame it on Brett? Yeah. Yeah. Because, I mean, obviously back in 2004, when Brett was reading this, he said, oh, man, I want to not put letter. I want to put no numbers in a book. [00:50:49] Speaker A: So. Well, someday Mad rocks. Number two. All done. [00:50:53] Speaker B: Number two. Yeah. I can't wait till number three. The COVID for this looks awesome, too. [00:51:01] Speaker A: I. I do want to say something besides just being sore. There is something getting me down, and I think I want to mention it really quickly on the podcast. We appreciate everyone and we want people to stay safe. We understand that in LA right now there's some really terrible things going on, and we have a president decided to invade his own country, and obviously, if somebody wants to disagree with me, then they can go read the US legal code and see whether or not deploying US troops on American soil is allowed or not. And it's a bad idea, people. It seems like a terrible idea. But anyway, just want people to stay safe. And we realize there's a lot of people going through some terrible stuff right now, so we're here to try to, you know, I can be sad on the comic book and soar and a little bit Grumpy Dan on the podcast, but we want you to know that, you know, we're with you and we want you to stay safe and whatever situation you're in, you know, please, you know, do your best to stay safe and. And take care of yourself, because we know this is a really difficult time, and if we can brighten your day a little bit by sharing some comics with you, we want to do that. Comic books were always a big escape for me, especially as a kid and a world I could look brighter to. And it is Pride Month, and, you know, I used comic books to escape into myself. Right. And as a young, closeted gay man. And so I know it's really scary right now and. But we just want to say, like, I know I didn't even ask Greg if I'd say this, but I know you agree already. Yeah, like, this is. This is something we talk about all the time. Yeah, we hadn't talked about la, but what I would also just like to say is, in all seriousness, please stop lighting the Waymos on fire. They didn't do anything wrong. They're just innocent little cars, and I like to ride in them, but out of the outside of that, besides that, just keep yourself safe and take care of yourself and be vigilant. [00:53:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Be vigilant. Stop. Look, listen and think. Pay attention to your surroundings and make sure that it's not just la, but also in any other large city, small city, wherever you're at, um, make sure that you're paying attention to what's going on around you and look out for those around you as well. Use water if you're hit with tear gas because everything else doesn't work. Yeah, I write books about it. [00:53:35] Speaker A: You would know more about that than me. So you have much more experience with tear gas than I do. [00:53:41] Speaker B: So. Yeah, no, just be safe. And we love you, all of you. [00:53:46] Speaker A: And, and take care of yourself. You know, it's. It's tough. It's tough. So we, we love you. Please take care of yourself. And, you know, embrace. I think one of the things about reading a comic book like this right now is this. Obviously he says in the book he has a little bit more courage to do different things because he can create multiples of himself. But, you know, it. It's nice to read, too. It's kind of fun to see a character willing to go out and try new things and embrace new ideas. And I would just encourage everybody on both sides of this battle to do the same. Embrace new ideas, get some perspective on the people you're talking to. Show empathy. You're not going to win people over to your side without empathy and without understanding. And so it's easy to vilify. But what I will vilify is when the President is breaking the Constitution and breaking his oath as the Commander in chief, and that's when I will call it out. So other than that, though, if you are on the other side, if you are concerned about immigration because you live in a border state and it's scary, talk to me, I'm happy to have that conversation. I have a conversation with a coworker. And now my friend that's really close to me lives in Arizona, has different concerns about immigration. And we have really good conversations and try to build empathy and understanding. But if you're not doing that, and if you're not willing to do that, then you're not going to get far and you're going to line up and become an ideologue and line up. And I say for both sides, because I've seen ideology posts on both sides, I certainly know what side I'm on, and I certainly know that you have to approach people with kindness and compassion and empathy, otherwise you're not going to get anywhere in the conversation. And me saying that is really tough for me. I'm a debater, and I don't always, you know, center the other person in my conversations. I've really had to try, so I think that's the best way to work through a time like this. Even if I can't follow my own advice, I would ask you to do the best of your ability. And I know I at least try, and hopefully Greg's seen me try more over the years. But anyway, don't want to end on a completely sad note, but I just. We know stuff is tough and we want it. We want you to hang in. [00:56:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Hang in there and, you know, check in on your friends that. That may be going through some stuff, too, on all sides, you know, so. All sides of everything. [00:56:23] Speaker A: I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna go see somebody on Thursday that I haven't seen in a couple months. So I'm excited and I think, yeah, keep track of folks. With that said, we'll forego the plugs today because we ended on a serious note. Yeah, we're super serious. It seems sort of serious to start plugging everything, but the one thing I will plug is that you will. Next week. We are going to be at SummerCon on the 20th. Or not, I guess, technically this week when I released the podcast. So. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [00:56:58] Speaker A: If you want. If you want to come see us and if you want to catch up with us, if you want to have a debate with me and tell me I'm completely wrong about everything I say about comics. Yeah. Find us at SummerCon and we'll hang out with you. We just found out today that Dan Slott is going to be there. Greg and I are wondering if it's the smartest thing to advertise one of the best comic writers of the last 20 years to your con or, you know, a week before it starts. [00:57:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:27] Speaker B: But, hey, everybody, we got one of the most prolific and amazing people. If you don't know who he is. I mean, you listeners know who he is, but I'm sure some of the people out there are like, who's this. [00:57:39] Speaker A: Guy that don't follow up Dan Slott and read and you'll be fine. I did believe I read that he had the longest run on Amazing Spider man of any writer, consecutively. [00:57:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Yeah. I was gonna say. I mean, like, a lot of people are like, spider Man. [00:57:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, if you've, you know, if you know, Spider man from the last, you know, several years, you know, Dan Slott, Spider man. And, you know, she Hulk inspired the television show and Obviously, Peter David did some writing, so there's the tie in. We already mentioned Dan Slott because Dan slot she Hulk. And then Peter David followed up. [00:58:15] Speaker B: I should bring that one that I have. [00:58:17] Speaker A: Have him sign, I think Superman Unchained, which I have sitting over here. He's now doing some DC work, which is kind of crazy. [00:58:23] Speaker B: Is that the one? Is that. Oh, man. Yeah. [00:58:26] Speaker A: No, I haven't read it yet, so don't ask me. We'll have to ask listener Jason, because Jason has probably read it already. I'm a little bit behind. I'm almost cut. Jason. I'm almost cut up on Superman, so I'm almost there. I've got to be kind of the. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Summer of Superman, Dan. Yeah, well. [00:58:41] Speaker A: And I've got to be cut up. Caught up and cut up, but I've. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Got to be caught up. He's got to get cut up and caught up on that Superman. [00:58:47] Speaker A: I gotta be caught up for the Legion appearances. [00:58:49] Speaker B: It's a Superman SummerSlam. [00:58:51] Speaker A: Yeah, Jason. I'm getting there. We're going to be able to talk about it soon, I promise. [00:58:55] Speaker B: Could you have a Superman SummerSlam at Denny's? [00:59:01] Speaker A: I. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Is that a thing? I don't know if they made one. What would it consist of, Dan? [00:59:08] Speaker A: A red sun. [00:59:11] Speaker B: I thought you're gonna say, like, all the meat. No, Superman. He's like, beefy. [00:59:16] Speaker A: And that'd be a red sun. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Just a red sun. Like a. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Like moons over Miami. [00:59:22] Speaker B: It would be like just like blood oranges. [00:59:26] Speaker A: Red sun. [00:59:28] Speaker B: It's just like blood orange juice. Oh. Like va juice and blood orange juice and everything. [00:59:34] Speaker A: Blood red sun over my. [00:59:38] Speaker B: Wow. That. [00:59:39] Speaker A: Well, it's not a nightwing dish. Anyway. [00:59:41] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Anyway, sorry, we're trying to get goofy for a second, make you laugh, giggle, and have a good. [00:59:48] Speaker A: But. Oh, I also. I did have a listener call out. Oh, yeah, I have a new listener. Yeah. Welcome. Welcome Jiu Jitsu Kiahi to the podcast listeners. So, yeah, so he. He is a. He is one of the coaches at Certified. Yeah. So we have a new listener. [01:00:11] Speaker B: Yay. [01:00:12] Speaker A: One of the compatriots of Jiu Jitsu, lawyer Paul. So we now have three listeners. Yeah. [01:00:18] Speaker B: And my grandma, she downloads it all the time on her iPad. [01:00:21] Speaker A: No, she doesn't. [01:00:22] Speaker B: She doesn't know that she does. [01:00:24] Speaker A: She just wonders how to download things. [01:00:25] Speaker B: She doesn't know why she gets all these alerts that says, what's this? Funny book forensics. What is this? She's been. She's been getting it for five years, Dan. [01:00:36] Speaker A: I don't I think, like, I don't want Baba. Listening to the podcast would be the saddest thing. Just be like, I don't believe you do this. What do you. [01:00:47] Speaker B: What the heck is this? I told her. I tried to explain what a podcast was to her. It's a radio show. She goes, you're not on radio. Nobody wants to listen to you. [01:00:56] Speaker A: Yes, that's exactly what I think would happen anyway. Well, it's literally what she said. It's literally what would happen. So I. Yeah, well, anyway, we should wrap this thing up. Everybody out there, stay safe. Thank you, new listeners. Thank you, listener Lance, too. And we'll get to. If you are a listener and want to leave us some feedback and stuff like that, we'll. We now have. The videos are out on YouTube, so if you listen to the audio version, you can watch the video. Video usually comes out a day later. Cause I gotta get everything to render and all those things. But you can see, Greg. You can see when I'm holding up the comic books. In this case, I'm actually holding up the physical comic books. Oh, my God. I'm touching comic books. What's happening? [01:01:39] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [01:01:41] Speaker A: You can see. And you see all the books behind me. [01:01:44] Speaker B: So I'm holding up video games like Amped and Def Jam. [01:01:49] Speaker A: And Def Jam Fighting Sorcery. [01:01:52] Speaker B: Fight for New York on Xbox. One of the best games out there. [01:01:56] Speaker A: All right, so anyway, we're wrapping this up and we will see you next time for Mad Rocks Number three. [01:02:05] Speaker B: Yeah, goodbye. See you. It.