Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Okay, now it's recording.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Yeah, we're supposed to click.
[00:00:03] Speaker A: I thought it was Greg's problem.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: We're supposed to click.
[00:00:07] Speaker A: Well, you were talking about your giant. See, you already hit it.
Greg made a giant foam contraption, which he was talking about, and then I wasn't recording. And now I said, do anything but hit it because we're trying to eliminate the background noise that comes, like, every seven minutes in Greg's office.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: I can't help it.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: The first thing he does is hit the giant phone contraption, which I told him not to.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: I can't help it, Dan. I am sorry.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Well, this is clearly your fault that my thing wouldn't record properly. And then you hit the thing.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
I planned it that way. Planned it.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: Also, I'm observant enough to notice that my thing wasn't recording. Good job we didn't do a whole episode of nothing.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: I hope I'm recording right now. I hope I didn't pull it down. Was I supposed to hit.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Well, hopefully you can see the blue little bars moving up and down in audacity. This is not that.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Hit the button already. Was I supposed to hit my.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: Greg was put on this earth to drive me insane.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: That's what friends do, right? I mean, just like, hey, it's a fact of life.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: No more insane than this comic book that we're about to read.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: I'm sorry. I can't help it. I mean, it's just what I do.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: I'm going to break that. I have not been to your house to break it. You know what? I'm not going to break that. Whatever plate is hanging behind you, because this is the problem with not having a video podcast, right? Like, if you saw my office, it's just piles of comic books and comic stuff everywhere. In Greg's office, it's like 17,000 hoodies hanging from a door. A picture of Yakov Smirnoff.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: He's the Ukraine's finest comedian.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: And a plate, like the plates you got on late night television.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Okay, that is in the 80s. That is Neil Armstrong. Thank you very much. On the moon.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: On a plate.
[00:02:04] Speaker B: On the moon.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
What was the company that sold the plates? Like, Franklin collections or something?
[00:02:12] Speaker B: It was the Franklin Mint.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: The Frankfurt mint.
Franklin Mint.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: Franklin Mint.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: The Frankfurt Franklin Mint.
[00:02:19] Speaker B: Thank you very much.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: I think I'd prefer the Frankfurt Mint. That would probably be Hummels and Jake.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Roberts Funko pops for the really old people.
[00:02:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, those things are terrifying.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: I think the best was, like, the episode where they were wasn't there?
Oh, that was on South park, where they were using the hummels to smuggle cocaine, probably. Or pain meds. I think it was pain meds because it was in the old folks. Was. Well, anyway. Or was it cocaine? Well, it doesn't matter. Or was it meth? You know what? It doesn't matter.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: You probably haven't seen that episode.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: All I know is, Outlander, we have your cell phone.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah. You were supposed to go back and watch more South park because you were cackling uproariously, though. I don't know if that was the copious amounts of vodka you were drinking or if it was actually bringing back on the plane.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: I had to get rid of it.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Jeez.
Anyway, we are on Legion of superheroes. 288.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: And by the way, we missed last episode was our 100th episode, and I didn't even say anything.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: 100 episodes.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: This is 101.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:03:32] Speaker A: So if you've been along for the ride, or you could just go back and listen to all 100 and see how much better we've gotten, I would say, or worse. Because I honestly think we started out thinking we were doing something, and then we decided we weren't really doing anything, so we just kept talking about comic books.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: I think if we went down the path of the.
When we started doing an actual podcast, as opposed to what we used to do when we were younger and just talking about comic books and just riffing off of each other, which is what we do anyways, but that's what we just do now. But when we actually tried to be all up our own butts about when.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: We tried to be professional podcast journalists.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: Bring in like, oh, well, when you talk about the state of the world and the way this comic affects everything else, we could talk a little bit about that. But when we try, we do do that. But when we tried to really get into it and be that, it sounded so just dumb, not good.
It was a podcast that I would not recommend, so we listened to it.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Well, that's none of the ones we actually recorded.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: No, we recorded two episodes like that.
[00:04:51] Speaker A: No, one.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: And then it was like, no, that's not good.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: We didn't release it to humanity.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: So if you've heard our podcast, and you can imagine that we chose one not to release humanity, you can only imagine how terrible that one was.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: We talked about some very interesting things, and we talked about.
That's the dumb thing, is it wasn't bad. It just wasn't us. It was aspects of things that Dan and I talk about. But it's like, why would we want to bore you about how to better your life? I'm just joking.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: I mean, you don't want to hear two nerds also talk about how to fix your credit score and other stuff like that. There's other podcasts for that.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: Oh, I can talk about that.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: I know, but you don't want to mix that up with your comic books. It just gets confusing because then you're.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Like, well, no, because I couldn't justify buying, then you got to. I couldn't justify buying all the comics.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Sell your comic book books.
It's a catch 22. Nobody likes that.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: But speaking of being professional, I actually do have a correction from last week.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Good. Yes.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: I said Jimmy James went on to work on cartoons and movies, but that was actually James Sherman who drew before around the time of Joe Stathon. So back with Conway. But Jimmy James was the last big artist before this group got on, and he is a storyboard artist, so that is factual.
So I guess he did do some cartoons, probably. Actually, I'm seeing, no, I was right. I was right. Never mind. I was right with both of them. So you're correcting James Sherman just did more movies, so now I'm correcting my. Yeah, so, well, let's go back. Well, I really thought I got it confused because I was referencing my book, the Legion of superheroes companion by tomorrow's publishing, which is out of print and very difficult to obtain. So it is very rare. Actually, I have this thing.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: That's a nice book.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: Can we do the comic book guy voice? Say, I have this legion of superheroes companion. I'm going to get it in this lab.
It will be protected forever and no one will have it but me.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Are you going to really put it.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: No, I was going to say, please don't.
Well, that's one of the ones. I don't have the PDF because I don't even know if I actually got that from tomorrow's. I think I had to buy it on the open market. But anyway, it looks like Jimmy Jane's worked on Batman, the animated series. Never heard of that one. Exo Squad, extreme Ghostbusters, the incredible. I know you've heard of that. The Incredible Hulk, the karate kid.
No. See, now if you will, by the way, since we're getting into this book about karate kid and Princess projectora, but hold on. Robocop, Alpha Commando, Spider man, the animated series, Swamp Thing and X Men, the animated thing. Yeah. So Jimmy James went on and did a lot of cartoons after. So I was right.
So now I'm correcting the correction. It was correction of the correction.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Wow, that's some self reflection. Now you're.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Well, anyway, karate kid. The karate kid, the movie. If you watch the first one in the credits, it says, used by permission of DC Comics. Well, because there already was a karate.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Kid.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: And that's who we're reading about today. But no. Yeah. Literally.
Yeah. They actually had to get permission to use the name.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: That would make so much sense as why there's a character in here called Mr. Miyagi.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: There is no character called Mr. Miyagi in here.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: It's my imagination.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: No, his teacher is named. You want to get what would be the worst possible japanese name to call his teacher sensei? Most generic. Yeah.
They call his mentor sensei.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Sensei.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Not one of Paul Levitt's finer.
They should have come up with a better name.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: It's very generic. It's very straightforward. It's what you call your teacher is a sensei.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: Well, we get a cover.
Yeah, it is.
Well, speaking of which, we have a cover of characters that we'll never see. Oh, wait, we'll see some of them again. But we have a cover full of legion characters. But we have the ferox. This was our guy that trapped them. Yeah, he's looking ferox, who will be seen over and over.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Like, I will say this.
If you're listening and you don't know what we're talking about. He looks like if you watch Tron, and you see when Tron gets all the way down, riding all the light all the way down, and he sees, like, the master computer and it's like, spinning around. That's what it looks like.
[00:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
I love this.
Well, I shouldn't say I love this cover. I like this cover.
I think that giffin and giffin, it's. Rafael Tangel is the inker on this one. And we still have Patterson inking him. So we're not quite to Maldstadt taking over. But I like this because he tries to do a fire effect. And so you can see it's like heating and warping the logo. Do you see that? How it's coming out of his eyes?
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: And then it's different color. It's like projector doesn't have an arm, which is weird. Or a hand. But what I think the characters are distorted because you're also looking at it as if you were looking through the heat.
[00:10:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:10:39] Speaker A: Distortion. So I think. I love half of the COVID I'm going to say that I love most of the COVID I really like the ferox and the logo manipulation on it, the characters. I see what he's trying to do, but it also, in some ways, looks like he just gave up drawing characters.
I don't know. What do you say? I mean, it looks like I can see what he's trying to do, but picking this up off the stand. Well, also, though, my eyes are immediately drawn to the big, fiery figure, so that's probably what he was going for. Your eyes aren't drawn to the Legion?
[00:11:14] Speaker B: No. It's right to the middle, to that.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Man of fire mouth and the eyes.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: It's a lot.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: It's Legion of superheroes. 288. It is a lot because it's giffen line art in the background, and it is insane. How would you like to be a giffin inker?
[00:11:32] Speaker B: Oh, I would not.
It is a lot of work looking. I mean, it looks like a lot of stuff to have to just. There's so much detail to pull out, and there's no fixing once you mess it up.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, let's flip to the front page.
Page one.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: Do you know how I know it's page one?
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Because it's lettered with a one.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: That's amazing.
What an idea. Oh.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: APPLAuse to Bruce Patterson for inking and letting that one there for job.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: Bruce, you know, you act like numbering pages is so difficult.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: Hey, I mean, some people can afford it, some people can't. I'm just joking.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Well, we get the Legion of superheroes.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: It's a choice.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: We get the legion of superheroes. The Legionnaires made for burning by Paul Levitt's writer, Keith Giffen, pencilr. Not quite co plotting. He doesn't have the co plotting credits yet.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: But we're getting there. Bruce Patterson, inker. Letterer. Wow. Bruce Patterson inked and lettered. Well, you are right. So of course, he had the.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: He had the ability and the skill and ability.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: We've changed. Colorist Carl Gafford is coloring it. And we get a new editor. Yeah. Mike W. Barr. Gone out of here. Laurie Sutton is in. And we'll get Laurie Sutton. And another cool, fun fact about the legion is we will go from Lori Sutton and then to Karen Berger. So two very famous gender female editors take over the book, and I think it's cool. Of course, Karen Berger went on to be the editor for something called Vertigo. Maybe you heard of it?
[00:13:22] Speaker B: Something small, little imprint.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Yeah, a small, little imprint inside of DC. She wasn't important enough to be Eddie Bergonza. Of course.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Like, we, what, lasted 20 something? 20 years? 20 plus.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, if you ever see Eddie Bergonza, just punch him in the face.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Punch him in the face.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: Well, he already is gone from comics, so we might as well just punch him in the face, too.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: Get out of here.
But he's Bergon.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he's not quite as gross as the person who created arm fall off boy, but pretty close. Well, anyway, before I get sued, we're.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: Just going to move on because the legionnaires move on for burning, and burning is what they'll do.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: So first off, we were talking about the art. I want to move on from there. I'm not going to spend a ton of time. Further discussion of all the lines that giffen puts into a drawing. But my God, look at those bricks.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: It's a lot. It's so many bricks. So much.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: And pock marks in the bricks and lines and dents and the chain and.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: The fire and the hay or the wheat or whatever, all that is like, all that sitting on and the broken stuff. It's like so many textures going on.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: And karate kid has decided to take down the entire building. Apparently he's going to knock it down. Punching a pillar. Yeah. Well, apparently that pillar is not very important because projector doesn't seem very worried about it. But basically, this is going to be a lot of this comic book. At the beginning, we have karate Kid wanting to fight things and projector being sacked because her dad was killed and she was going to get to be queen. And then her cousin took over and they do a nice little recap.
Know last week on Yu Gi oh or last time. Not last week, last time on Yu Gi oh. One quarter of the episode is a recap. I don't think we're going to get a one quarter episode recap, but we.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Get something you want to hear, something that'll make you feel good about recaps and stuff like that. Okay.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: About life and recaps in itself. Hurry up, because I want to talk about monitor boards.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: Give me such a tough time about numbering and stuff like that.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: In Starlight, I do.
[00:15:42] Speaker B: You know, Starlight was a quarter. Every issue was a quarter recap of the last issue that you read before I got a chance to rewrite everything, which.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: Oh, thank God. So thank you.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: You're welcome. So every issue that Travis had previously Travis Webb.
And that's one of the things, every time we talk, he's like, thank you so much for talking me out of this, because every issue flows so much better as opposed to starting off with.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: A. Oh, so that means issue seven would have been a recap of all the terrible, horrible things you did in issue six.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah, no, five.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: I see.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: It would have recapped one through six. Six is a great issue. You haven't even read it yet.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. I mean, five, six, I'm getting. Well, if I was truly treated like a member of the comic books media, I would already have a copy of issue six.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Well, I'm sorry. I am so sorry.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: An issue I paid for.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: You will soon enough. It just got lettered. It's not even done.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: Well, anyway, moving on to the comic we're reading anyway. Yeah, moving on to the comic book we're actually reading when I can actually touch and talk about, because I can actually get access to it and share my access with my friends.
How many year old comic book.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: Yeah, this one is old enough to vote.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: It's older.
It's 41 years old for president.
Well, anyway, we get very angry. Ferox comes in. Well, no guards come in. Karate kid's been waiting to beat people up, and he does. And then Farox comes in with his big fire eyes.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: It's time to die.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: And we get some amazing dialogue. I don't know if this is Levitt's at his best, but projector says, you treat your subject as though they were animals, Farrox, but it is you who is truly a beast. And he says, tut, tut. Dear projector, I would reply to you in kind. I mean, how would medieval future planet people talk? I'm not really sure.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: I think they would probably talk like they were medieval ish, but maybe have that kind of modern tones to their dialect?
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe. I guess. I don't know. Do you think they use interlac like the rest of the galaxy or what?
[00:18:21] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Do you think they use Orandian?
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Probably Orandian.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: I don't know. Well, it doesn't indicate that. Well, anyway, I think, more importantly, we get.
We get something important. We have lightning lad pontificating here, but in ways that Giffen and Levitts introduce concepts. And I think this was a giffin thing here. I'm pretty sure it was a giffen thing. I'd have to verify that for sure. Paul Levitts may say to the contrary, he may say it was a both of them thing. But we get a line here that says it's taking too long. Something must have delayed them. Or could there be a failure in the new holographic monitor system? So you've heard them talking about the mission monitor board before. And this is a super cool thing that Giffin and Levitz got in here to help the readers understand how the teams were broken up among the think, because it showed what missions each group was on. And you can see the symbols here. So we've got, see the little interlac M with the.
Well, it's not an interlac m. I don't know about the Monelle symbol. I think it changes, but it's Monelle, right?
[00:19:37] Speaker B: C L. Yeah, it's me.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: So there's two more big symbols there.
So in the last panel there's three symbols. Do you know who they are?
[00:19:50] Speaker B: The last panel, and you got like a star, the very last one on the four, Monelle, you got a thunderbird, but I'm going to assume that that is.
[00:20:07] Speaker A: Do you remember who has that on their chest?
It does look like a thunderbird, but it's, I think I talked about that symbol before, about how co opting native american symbols.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Is that Timberwolf?
[00:20:21] Speaker A: No, it's not Timberwolf.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: It's ultra boy.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Okay.
I'm assuming because he says dream girl, but it makes sense that it's a thought bubble would be dream girl.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's dream girl. And then the last one is shadow last, which I wouldn't have expected you to get, and that's fine, but you could probably figure it out because with Monelle that makes sense because we knew they were hanging out, but yeah.
And one of the cool things about being a legion fan, now you've seen my big shirt that has all the symbols on it. So that's what all these were. So somebody then took and drew a t shirt with all the symbols. I would promote the company, but the company used to be on the up and up and do all original cool stuff and work with creators like Steve Lidl. Now the company I bought the shirt from is stealing other artists work and doing sublimation.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: That's not ripping.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: Yeah, like they have sublimation prints of Keith giffins covers and know it's always good to steal from a guy who just died.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: That's pretty.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: Actually, you know, I will say their name. Nah, say their name.
Well, no, I don't want to give them any support because I am on Legion message boards and people keep posting themselves with these sublimated shirts with other people's art that they're paying them for. And it's disgusting.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: And you're like, don't buy that, it's garbage.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: In fact, I'm wearing, actually, I'm wearing a hoodie from them right now. And remember how my old ones never faded? You see how terrible and faded this one is? No, this isn't a sublimation one. Oh, this is one with their original art. And my t shirt, like this, too, faded almost instantly. So not only did their quality go down and then they started stealing. No, I've not bought anything from them that I didn't buy anything from them after they started selling other people's art. That makes sense.
Which is really sucks, too, because they worked with Steve Lidl before he died to get some original drawings from him, too.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: They did.
[00:22:16] Speaker A: And whether or not you think it's okay to steal characters, right?
It's questionable whether or not you could draw a character from DC and then sell it. Right.
That's questionable. But I'm okay as long as it's, like, the artist doing it.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: But the other, it's just. Anyway, I don't want to spend too much time on this. Don't steal shit from people.
That's not cool.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: Bad.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: However, on a happier note, back in the back of my office, I have a print in honor of this very issue.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Look at you.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: And we'll pull it out in a minute. So it's like you had no idea.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: No idea.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: We get to the next page, and I thought, was that lightning lad or is that element lad?
No, it's lightning lad, isn't it?
[00:23:08] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:23:08] Speaker A: No, he's up at the top. Well, no, he's all cry. Well, he quit last time.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: He's going through some stuff, dude.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: I don't know. It could be brainiac five, too. I don't know.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: Going through some stuff.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: It's all in shadow. Oh, it is. Brainiac five. He's walking away. Okay.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: Going through some things.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: So Brainiac five went to look at the monitor board. That's classic brainiac five. Actually, he went and looked at the monitor board, made sure all his friends weren't going to die, and then went back to his lab to work on stuff. Okay, so he's like, they don't need me. Well, then he goes to a meeting. But, yeah, all he's thinking about is, okay, they're not going to die. They don't need my thought powers. They don't need me to be super smart.
[00:23:48] Speaker B: All is good.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: We're going to make sure it's fine. It's fine. Well, anyway, now, element lad, finally getting to be the leader, is running a meeting. And of course, as you've learned about the Legion of superheroes, pretty much. One third of the comic book is going to be meetings. Yeah.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: It's just like. Just like a workday.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it is a big organization.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: It's just like meetings, meetings, meetings. Oh, hey, cool thing to do. And then I wonder if, for tax.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: Purposes, they had to hold this many meetings. Probably kind of like, they can't. Tax purposes keep them from having too many members.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, it makes sense. You have to hold meetings so that you are utilizing the facility for the meetings as opposed to just having a facility so that you can say that you have this facility. So to write it off, you have to use it.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: I also love how, like, Starboy often work.
It seems to be starboy a lot, and at this time, it's Starboy and phantom girl who have jabbed at each other in other issues. But I was laughing because the meeting's happening. They're all talking, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But really, it's like, oh, no, it's my fault that Chameleon boy took off, and it's not your fault. And it's this. And, oh, no. Well, of course, they're referring to Chameleon boy taking off in the last issue with shrinking Violet and Timberwolf. And then who is it? Colossal boy. Saturn girl and a couple other folks went off to rescue them in his president mom's spaceship.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: President mom.
[00:25:20] Speaker A: That could be a sitcom, right? Colossal boy and his president mom.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Colossal boy. And it's president mom. Or just president mom. And then you find out it's president mom. And it's a whole, entire story, like, a whole thing following president mom. And then the reveal at the end of the season. End of first season is, oh, her son is a superhero.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Colossal boy.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: And then, hey, mom.
Is like, hey, mom, I'm back. And she's like, oh, it's so good to see you. And he's like, oh, hold on.
I got a call. I got to go. See you later. And he's like.
He just jumps and flies away.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: And the roof comes off because he's.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Like, I'm so clumsy. She's like, oh, he's so clumsy.
[00:26:12] Speaker A: Well, we get a little.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Okay.
I hit the phone again. I got so excited. I was like, DC, call me. Let's do this.
[00:26:21] Speaker A: I don't think they're going to call you.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: They might. I don't know.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Well, we get our horror moment because. And we get our everyday. Like, you know what? I've been working up this panel here with Starboy with his hand on his head.
Unfortunately, we still have the cut in Starboy uniform showing his chest, which that's going to go away for soon. So we'll get the full Starfield whole body suit very soon with Giffen, which is. We've already got it mostly.
But anyway, Starboy just says, listen, you're all going nuts. Let's stop talking and do something. Is that not your whole day at work.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: Today? Yes. Excuse me. Excuse me.
I'm leaving.
Why? Because I'm leaving. I will see you all tomorrow. I thought you wanted to talk.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: Well, there's phantom girl in the background. She's like, starboy is right for a change.
Well, anyway, what we find out is they want to move quickly. Even block wants to move quickly.
Even block wants to move quickly.
So when block wants to move quickly, it's a long.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: I'm ready to rock.
[00:27:39] Speaker A: Well, we get on to the next page, and then we're back to another sub story. We get more on the missing Legionnaires. Later we find out that we had the four mission monitor board status legionnaires, and we've got dream girl, ultra boy, Monel, and shadowlast. And that's what. Oh, Shadowlast's symbol is her tiara.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: That makes sense.
Yeah. Imagine if everybody has.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Well, it sort of makes sense, except her symbol is going to change on the mission monitor board in about twelve issues. Yeah, not that I know that or anything. I feel like I have insider information.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: It feels like you do. It feels like you know a thing or two about a thing or two. Did they seriously hide their. Did they camouflage it? They did. They camouflaged their ship.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they're clearly on Orando because they're looking at castles and stuff, basically.
I feel like. Do you think they just took the scene from Star Trek four right from here, where they hide the ship?
And apparently they decide to. Now, I would just like to point out. Right, so ultra boy, you know how Ultra boy got into Legion, right?
[00:28:52] Speaker B: No, please tell me.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: Well, I mean, he got into Legion by trying, like. Well, I don't even know if he tried.
Anyway, sorry.
Well, no, he had to go back in time to a quest he had to go find and identify. Part of his tryout was going back and finding out who Superboy was. So he had to go back and figure out who Clark Kent was. Anyway, long story, different pot. Maybe someday we'll go back to his origin back, but in Silver age Superboy comics. But we'll avoid that now. But he says, remember, so in the legion of superheroes, right, no two superheroes can have the same power. So you might be wondering why. How Supergirl and Superboy and Monelle can.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: All be powered similarly and be in the Legion.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, they are all. Well, Monel is not. Remember, he's allergic to lead.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Not kryptonite.
[00:29:52] Speaker B: It's different.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Supergirl got an exemption.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: Oh, like a tax exemption?
[00:29:56] Speaker A: Or Superboy, depending on the lore. Right. Of course. They're reserve members. Right? Yeah.
Okay, so why does Ultra boy get in? Isn't he just all of their powers, except he can only use one at a time. So do you know how he got. Well, he. His pentravision can see through lead.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Oh, shut up.
And Manel can't because he's allergic to it. Oh, my goodness.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: Well, no, not allergic to it, but x ray vision can't go through lead. Superman can't see through lead either. So he has one power, and he even notes it right there. See, that's why I love Levitz's dialogue sometimes, because you get these oh so subtle nods to legion fandom and the APa mags, and he's like, my penetravision sees what your x ray vision does, pal. Oh, it should be. Doesn't. Yeah, I feel like it's a.
Well, look at. I was just bragging on the dialogue and then it's messed up anyway.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: Wonky. Okay, got it.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Well, anyway. Cool. He's saying it sees what they does because they see that karate kid and projector are, like, about to be burned on a pyre. So it doesn't look good.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: Nintendo.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: They should get taken out pretty easily by this ferox guy.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, he's got.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: Oh, a new character introduced. Yeah, this old lady, Haga. She doesn't have an eye. I feel like she's seen better.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: She's scary looking, and she's got, like, a big thing behind her that looks like her, which is scary too.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: And she's got purple robes, which automatically.
[00:31:27] Speaker B: Makes her a bad guy purple, which is weird.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Not a primary color child.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: People are like, oh, purple is so terrible. But I was like, I like purple. It's like, why do you like purple? I'm like, dark Crystal's cool.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: That's true. Well, you kind of get a dark crystal vibe, right?
[00:31:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. She looks like she's going to children.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: Well, apparently we start to find out who's in charge of this whole shindig. Because she's like, the old king was weak. Farox's daughter would have been even weaker.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's like, I knew that the day she left my ha ha. She should twirl her mustache.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh, maybe she has one.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: And what we find out is we've got Donald Trump right here and Haga. Yeah, it just never goes away. So we've got the isolationist old woman who wanted nothing to come for a world. And we've got projector over there going, you don't dream big. You have closed minds, political battles.
[00:32:23] Speaker B: Yeah, go back to Orlando.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: Back to Orlando. Go back to Southport.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: It's kind of like these things just never go. These themes never leave. Right.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: They're always there.
It's a theme that's been there for centuries.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: But this is a unique time in history that is like no other, ever.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: You say that like it's true, but it's not. I'm sorry to break it.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Say it like sarcasm. I know.
I cannot stand it when commentators say things like that. It's a unique time in history, like.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: No other, facing adversities we've never faced before.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: Well, actually, my God, actually, many people have more rights than they've ever had in the history of the world these unprecedented times.
And we always have some jackass trying to take the rights away. It's like those guys don't get rights. I watched a piece on Clarence Thomas last week on the Daily show or. No, no, it was on the Daily show. It was on John Oliver.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: Offered him like a million.
[00:33:32] Speaker A: I mean, it was summarizing all the bribes that Clarence Thomas has got over the years and then, I mean, gifts.
[00:33:37] Speaker B: Gifs. Gifs.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: Let's not gifs or gifs. No, not gifs. Gifs. Yeah, like g I f t s. Okay, not gifs. And not peanut butter. Not gifs.
Gif. Well, anyway, no, let's not go down that rabbit hole. But, yeah, I guess John Oliver offered him a million dollars to step down from the court. A million dollars in an RV? No, an RV and a motorhome. A motor coach.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: That's not bad. I mean, you could do a lot in a motor.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: I mean, I just feel know these folks trying to hold others down and maintain power like this haggle lady. We have them now. But it's been consistent throughout history that there are always people like this somewhere, and graft and corruption exist.
But that's why in the future we have the Legion of superheroes to fight against it. Right.
[00:34:33] Speaker B: And hopefully they can win.
[00:34:35] Speaker A: And of course, you know, the Legion of superheroes are not allowed to kill people. You can get kicked out if you kill someone.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: Unless you're starboy and you killed somebody in self defense. But you did get kicked out for that. But then you got let back.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: Well, we should find out what happened.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: He killed Ken's new whore, by the way.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: Not his old one.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: No, but after Ken's new whore killed Jan Barth. I know. Well, anyway, can you tell that starboy's origin story was my very first legion issue or anything?
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Sounds like it.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: Okay, so of course, he can't murder. So these guys in armor come running at them and ultra boy freezes them.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Yeah, they can't move. They're stuck.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, actually, first he heats them up and then he freezes them. How does melting someone's armor on them not kill them?
[00:35:27] Speaker B: That's a good question. Well, because he did it really quick. He melted it so the joints of their armor got really superheated. And then he froze it. So it got really cold. So it didn't hurt them much.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: It results in a really cool looking. Yeah, they're still drawing.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: They stuck also.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Just like with the giffin touches, right? Like when you get the front view of ultra Boy using his power and it distorts, like, the view. Yeah, I think the coloring there is really cool, too.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: It's pretty neat.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: And then we get dream girl, of course, anticipating everyone's move and flying in to rescue folks. Because she sees the future.
[00:36:09] Speaker B: Sees that future.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: Well, and obviously, every time she sees the future, it comes true.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: Oh, lordy. Or a portion of it does.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: Or none of it does.
Anyway, we get another page. And it's a pretty cool looking page. Yeah, we've got the ships all flying off to go hunt for the missing folks. And Dawnstar is like, I'm going to find them because she's a tracker.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: She's going to find them.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: But she's like, even though there's no trace or pattern, I'll find it.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: Which.
[00:36:46] Speaker A: Well, that's her due. She's space tracking.
Now we have lightning lad back looking at the mission monitor board and see how it's cool. We've got like, each ship that went out and we have who went. I see, right, so you can see Sunboy went with block.
[00:37:00] Speaker B: Yeah, sunboy went block. Dollar sign went with Christmas tree.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: Dollar sign went with Christmas tree.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Py symbol went with stop sign.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: That's phantom girl. See? Phantom girl with Star.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Boyface went with lightning bolts.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: Don Star and. Well, no. So dog face and. Oh, my gosh. Okay, you're.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: And then they're all hanging out inside the treehouse.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: You're ruining my favorite part anyway.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: Okay, don't ask me questions. You don't want the answers.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: Well, well, we flip the page after Greg has interpreted that Ganort is now hunting down the lost legionnaires.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: Yes, Ganort, dog face, the best of them all. My favorite lantern.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: It's a damn good thing Green lanterns are banned from Earth.
We found that out in the 30th.
[00:38:04] Speaker B: Century because banned from Orlando.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Well, it turns out the rescue attempt didn't go so well because.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Oh, crap.
Giant spider.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: Everybody is being fired. Yeah, everybody's tied to the giant spider.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: But we're going to solve this problem because dream girl says, I wonder if magic works the same everywhere. This fire doesn't feel hot, but it's burning the surroundings. I think my sister uses the same spell. And her sister is the white Witch of now. Nalter, as you'll recall, is the dream planet that was dream girl had in the backup story. That's her.
It, Laurie. I do need to fault Lori, though. I think she should have given us the adventure comics issue that where mice have first appeared. So the White Witch. But that would have been nice.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: But we didn't get that.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: But she didn't. But that's okay.
[00:39:00] Speaker B: Time to get Haga.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I will say that they're old stories, but I still like it when you get the reference to which story. Which story?
[00:39:09] Speaker B: It's a witch story about. We're finding out which story has the witch story in it. Get it?
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we're establishing for some reason, like a legion election is coming up. You know how we keep trying to establish dream girl is the smart one that solves problems? Oh so subtly? Remember how subtle it was before in the last issue when she was just solving problems?
[00:39:33] Speaker B: This one, it's like on top. It's like hitting you on the head with a mallet. I'm going to figure this one out. And you know how? Because I know how she's doing it.
[00:39:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And, well, she uses her flight ring, and she covers the sun, and she starts yelling out stuff, I'm a wizard.
And she scares all the people.
They tell Haggard to kill her.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: I'm a wizard, hagga.
Sorry.
[00:40:03] Speaker A: And then as she gets up there and says she'll blot out the sun shadow last. Blots out the sun. And of course, like all political simpletons.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: They freak out, trick them, and then she yells, alakazam. And then they're like, you can't use that spell.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: And they're like, oh, okay, this must be projector. So they shoot her and knock her out, and it's still the same. And, uh oh, but then they say it's not projectress. She's unconscious, nothing's changed. Haga. But the sun shall return when I have slain the girl. And dream girl's like, oh, no. Yeah, I don't.
We're. We're about to get into some really good stories, and I guess they needed to clean up this. Yeah. So I'm glad they are before. You know what? Actually, I'm really glad they're cleaning up this Orando plotline before they get into much better stories. So it's not in the way. So it's not just hanging out there. Still.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: Gotcha. Yeah, because it's not muddy.
[00:41:03] Speaker A: Now, when I read this as a kid, I don't think it bugged me as much, but just, Orando's lame.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: It's the past, in the present, future.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: Well, it's like her solution is to trick the populace into thinking she's some sort of wizard, right? But spaceships fly onto their planet, right? An attack, like. And I know they hid their spaceship, but they know that Projectora left in a spaceship. They should know that. I don't know.
So these folks here, these noble, basically all the ones with haga and mean, they're basically the Capitol rioters, right?
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
I was going to say they should be educated enough to understand what's going on, but yet they're dumb enough to be fooled. Yeah.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: Yes, I think you went exactly what I was thinking about. They should be educated enough to understand what's going on and not be tricked by charlatans and wizards. Yet they are.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: And they're easily fooled.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: Yes, they're easily fooled and easily overwhelmed.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: They want their $399 shoes.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: You're welcome.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: The best line about the Trump tennis shoes was, when you'll see them, you'll know which man. When you see them in the airport, you know who on your group is on the no fly list.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: Well, you don't have to worry about them on the plane.
[00:42:31] Speaker A: Right. Or who will be dragged off the. Yeah. Well, anyway, that joke went over. It's like, amazingly well, they get a know. Well. Anyway, now we cut to a preview of our next story, and we've gotten the legionnaires that were on the mission. So we see Saturn girl. Well, the legionnaires that were on the mission. So Timberwolf, Chameleon boy and shrink of Violet. And as we mentioned, we had colossal boy and Saturn girl take off to go get them. And of course, you'll see Saturn girl in a new costume. New costume.
Old costume.
[00:43:07] Speaker B: Get a new costume. While she was on the mission.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: Well, if you say conveniently, I do appreciate Levitt's constantly explaining things. I don't think he always needs to, but there's a lot of text. But he says, glad brainiac had stowed some extra uniforms aboard. This is so much warmer than what was left of the old one. So making fun of her bikini costume. Yeah. I mean, Giffin almost immediately gets her out of the bikini costume and back into her classic.
It's an upgraded version of her classic Silver age costume.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: It looks classy. It's good.
[00:43:44] Speaker A: I love this costume. I think it's much better than, you know, how much I love Dave Cochrane. This is just a better costume than the bikini costume Dave Cochrane drew. I mean, not everything was a hit. And Timberwolf's back in his, like, see all of my chest? Costume.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: See my chest? It's the chest.
[00:44:02] Speaker A: There's a lot of V lines in some of these costumes.
We've got mopey boy there in the back.
Mopey chameleon boy. Yeah. And we've got snuggly colossal boy and shrinking violet.
[00:44:16] Speaker B: Kind of funny.
[00:44:17] Speaker A: And they point out they were going to let everybody know where they were, but their rings don't work because the planet forms some sort of ICE crystals, frost crystals that are messing up all of the electronics.
[00:44:27] Speaker B: Curses.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So not so good. We get another page where everybody's just like, kind of chameleon boy. They're all just tired of chameleon boy. They tell him to go away, piss off.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: And he's like, fine, I'll be mopey Chameleon boy.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: And Timberwolf takes Saturn girl off to where she can rest, supposedly. And they leave Saturn girl or not, Saturn girl, shrinking violet, and colossal boy off over to, I guess, neck.
And Saturn girl and Timberwolf have this in depth conversation about why she had to come back and get him.
They're talking about maybe the marriage is not blissful right now. I don't know. Seems awkward.
[00:45:17] Speaker B: Awkwardness.
[00:45:19] Speaker A: And now we're going to get back to. So we've got lots of love and poor chameleon boys all by himself, and we're going to get back to. Back to.
Sure. I'm sure we'll see more of this soon, since the whole team is searching for them, except for the people in Orlando. So now we get back to cones of Dunshire.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all about the cones.
[00:45:40] Speaker B: It looks cool.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: There's a lot of cone buildings on this planet.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you got to have those cool towers and they have to have a topper on it for the flags and got to keep the dragons away.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Well, shadow lass is a beast, and she knocks out haga. And then dream girl goes ahead and finishes her off.
And now we get. Ferox is like, stand away. I shall keep my kingdom, rules or no rules. And they're all like, my lord, you're violating the rules. And here's where all of these folks are smarter than Trump supporters because they actually turn on the grifter when he starts breaking the law.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: But the law.
[00:46:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they're like, oh, wait, you should follow the law. You can't just do whatever you want when in the current political climate, they seem to double down on him when he does whatever he wants.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: No, our traditions.
[00:46:36] Speaker A: Yeah, laws. Yeah. Well, anyway, I don't know. I've probably been too mean to, you know, if you're a Trump supporter and you listen to our podcast, we want you to know you're welcome to.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: We have a lot of hot takes that you might not be hip to, but at the same, hey, you might also like.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: I mean, but you're certainly mean. We wouldn't turn you away.
[00:46:59] Speaker B: You might enjoy the banter, and you might pick up a comic that you wouldn't in a hot take that you wouldn't normally.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: Well, I mean, after all, for all of our Trump supporting fans, we reviewed that entire Captain America drug series, which was clearly the streets of poison, clearly the best comics book issues we've ever read, and I think it's supportive of the police and taking down drug dealers.
We go through the whole political spectrum here. It's okay. Yeah. But clearly, in the future, we're not about regression or breaking the law.
We're for the law, right?
[00:47:44] Speaker B: We're for people doing people things.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Well, we're for the proper ascension of the monarchy as we get to right here. So here, queen projector, right? We're for monarchy.
[00:47:55] Speaker B: Taking her place, right?
[00:47:57] Speaker A: I mean, this book is all about is monarchy, right?
[00:48:00] Speaker B: The man thing, or whatever this is. It looks like man thing to me.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. I didn't know he had this power.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: He has the ability to create a.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: Real life illusion, illusions.
[00:48:13] Speaker B: And they're fighting it like they're going to town destroying it. And karate kid's like, I ain't having it, dude. I got a score to settle.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: Projector, of course, says, fear not to destroy them legionnaires. They are only magical constructs, scarcely more real than my merest illusion, which she's basically, like, pissing on his power. Which is better than hers. Like he can create illusions that actually punch people.
And then Karate Kid because he has to foreshadowing something. In Legion of superheroes volume four, number four, karate kid says, let me stay behind and beat this guy up.
It goes well here. But in Legion of superheroes volume four, number four, it may not go as well for karate Kid in that fight.
Well, 1980, 419 85. When did Karate Kid come out?
[00:49:03] Speaker B: The movie, the movie itself, I think 84 might be 84. Eightync.
[00:49:12] Speaker A: Well, if your name Karate Kid and you're lending somebody else the rights to the name, it may be a fair allowed scenario. I don't know, it might not be good.
Well, we don't focus on the future. Didn't I tell you like the whole X Men thing, we weren't allowed to focus on future X Men. And here I am referencing every legion of superhero story I know. Well, we are in books about the future, so why wouldn't we reference the future?
[00:49:40] Speaker B: Because that's what you do. But that could be a future podcast.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: Because wouldn't talk about the future. Wouldn't talk about the past anymore.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: Well, no, I'm just saying that we might be running out of time for this podcast to talk about more things that we can't talk about.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: Well, anyway, yeah, so karate kid beats up Farox.
The crowd has now seen the light and they all celebrate. All hail queen projector. Because like I said, this podcast is all about endorsing monarchy. We are not about democracy. We are not about whatever Trump is.
[00:50:14] Speaker B: We're all about the queen, fascism.
[00:50:17] Speaker A: We're not about fascism, but we are.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: About the monarchy because, I mean, she's taking her throne and becoming the queen.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: And we get an epilogue. And dream girl is quite pissed to still be on this backwards planet with no bath or shower. And she's very unhappy. And karate kid comes out in his new costume. Consort. Yeah, it's his consort robes.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Awesome.
[00:50:43] Speaker A: It's like, yeah, hey, guys, I'm going to stay here, but you want to stay here for the coronation. Then we get a big, giant, really cool looking picture of the coronation of queen projectra. And we get next issue, a cold and lonely corner of hell. Yeah, and I can't wait.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: Plus, once upon a time, once upon an insanity. Whoa, that's awesome.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: Well, and we're onto the letters page, and we've got one letter that's clearly out of touch with how we've been reading the book from Chris Cade, a 1500 quail circle, Roseville, California, 95678.
How does it feel, Chris? For history to inevitably, through sales numbers and fandom alike, prove you completely wrong, he says. Dear group, is it true? Has the legion come back alive under the pencils of Pat Broderick?
[00:51:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: My only regret is Paul Levittz wrote it. At least he did try a few new things. Oh, and my thanks to Bruce Patterson and Gene too.
[00:51:48] Speaker B: Oh boy.
[00:51:49] Speaker A: And they say, don't keep us in suspense. Chris, what were those new things you liked? Yeah, well, guess who's off the book already? And guess who will be on the book for six years.
Oops.
And then we get dear Mike, Paul, and Pat from Scott Katz of eleven six seven East 73rd Street, Brooklyn, New York 11234. I'd like to welcome back Paul Levitz back to I'd like to welcome Paul Levitz back to Legion. In my opinion, he is the best writer the Legion has ever had. Paul seems to do all the right things with this series. I liked his invention of Weber's world back in Earth War series, and I liked the idea of having a satellite hospital. One thing that I like about Paul's writing is that he constantly brings new things into the series. I feel like I've been saying this since we started this, but at the same time, he doesn't forget to use what was already there. The use of the mission monitor board and the mention of Tacron Deltas in this issue.
Taking out bouncing boy into a damsel was, I think, a bad move. I disagree. If you wanted to lessen the membership, why not throw out dream girl or printing or some other useless character?
Damn. Damn Scott cats. One final comment. Let's have that adult Legion update that we were promised last year. Perhaps it could be one of the annuals that newly promoted managing editor Jick Giordano, love that dude. Is planning for release next year. No? Long live the Legion. But we are going to get an amazing story with an annual two podcast from now. So we're on to 289 next issue and then annual one or next issue, next podcast, annual one, the podcast after that.
And they do say the adult Legion resolution is coming, but it's not going to come till issue 300. I'm going to tell you, issue 300 is one of my favorite single issue comic books ever made.
Not just because it's a Legion book. It is fantastic. And that's not even one of the ones I'm going to have you read. And I'm telling you, the next two are two of my favorite single issue books ever. So we got a lot going on. Well, we've got to wrap this up because Greg has other responsibilities today. But we first have to say, we are excited. We announced it last week, but we are now a part of Project nerd Universe City.
Is it Project Nerd? It's the project nerd network.
[00:54:14] Speaker B: Project nerd network, yeah.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: Of podcasts and things.
[00:54:18] Speaker B: Podcasts and things, yes.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: And things. Yeah. It's amazing. They have podcasts. Our picture is now on their website, though. The podcasts aren't on the website yet, but hopefully when this one comes out, they will be. Or close to it.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: I mean, we're still on our feed. You can still going to be able to find us on YouTube. You don't have to change your feed at all. But what we would ask you is go check out Project nerd. And then you can see their podcasts as well.
Great shows. But you can also find more community because then people that like our podcast, they like our podcast. We go to. There you go. There you go check out their podcast. You find other podcasts you like. You find other people that are nerds like us that like things, and then you can talk to them. So you could engage in their Instagram community or their face group. Community. Do they have like a discord? Maybe I should do some research. They have like a discord or something.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: I know they had their face. They have a couple disco cord. They have a couple of different Facebook groups that had their main Facebook group Facebook page. And then they have a Facebook group that is a full on, interactive chat type thing that they post a lot of memes and other things like that. And I'm pretty active on the meme team that puts those together.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: The meme team.
[00:55:38] Speaker B: So we basically like.
[00:55:39] Speaker A: Is that run by the demon entrance?
[00:55:41] Speaker B: Yes, there's a demon.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: And the meme team is run by the demon because it can. What do so many. You have to rhyme if you're talking about the demon. Entrogyn, remember?
[00:55:54] Speaker B: No. Anyways, so point being is there's a very large group of folks that are part of this, that interact and.
[00:56:07] Speaker A: Pretty large folks. Or there's both.
[00:56:10] Speaker B: Large group folks.
[00:56:13] Speaker A: A large group of pretty large folks.
[00:56:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:56:16] Speaker A: Just, Dan, how are you defining large?
[00:56:18] Speaker B: Take it any way that you want to.
[00:56:20] Speaker A: How are you defining large? Like muscular or both.
[00:56:25] Speaker B: And then also quantity.
[00:56:27] Speaker A: Everyone's welcome. That's what you're saying?
[00:56:28] Speaker B: Quantity of people? Yes. Is open to everyone.
[00:56:31] Speaker A: Okay.
Everyone's welcome. As long as you believe in monarchy.
[00:56:36] Speaker B: No, they just want people to have fun in their fandoms and believe in monarchy. Jerk.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: What?
[00:56:45] Speaker B: I'm not telling you to not be.
I'm saying they don't want you to be a jerk.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: I'm a jerk.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: You're a jerk. I'm sorry. Dan is. Dan is no longer invited.
[00:56:57] Speaker A: I'll call you. Well, I mean, that's pretty normal. I can't review books ahead of time. I'm not part of the media. I'm not even invited to basic, local, tiny shows at comic book stores. I get from. I'm blocked from a lot of things.
The important thing is that Project nerd is not blocked from you, and so you can be a part of Project Nerd. And, of course, if you like Greg, and based off these podcasts, who wouldn't like Greg? I mean, he's clearly the likable one of the could. Or you like Greg's ideas about the comics or the writing and plots and things like that. Why not pick up a copy of which will be out?
[00:57:40] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: As you listen to this podcast, absolute Zeros camp launchpad with Greg Smith, Michael Tanner, and Gabrielle Gomez on art. I could tell you it's fantastic. But my copy actually won't come to me.
I don't have it yet at time of recording because I'm not an esteemed member of the media, and I don't get advanced copies to review, Dan.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: I am. So, you know what would be great.
[00:58:07] Speaker A: Is I could be telling the listeners how great this book is, but right now, I have no way to endorse it. It's basically, like, the only way. Actually, that's not true. So if, of course, you order a hardbound version of this book, you will get an MxPx CD. It will smell like vanilla cupcakes. It has cordycet mushrooms inside of it, which will turn you into a zombie. And, in fact, if you buy this book, you will have a chance to win your own space camp adventure.
[00:58:36] Speaker B: None of these things are true.
None of them.
[00:58:39] Speaker A: I don't understand why.
[00:58:40] Speaker B: Like, none of them are true.
[00:58:42] Speaker A: That's it. They seem like. I mean, who wouldn't want an MXPx CD? Like, why wouldn't you want it to smell like vanilla cupcakes? Why wouldn't you want to give the readers an opportunity to become a zombie if they choose to? And finally, why wouldn't you partner with little brown Publishing to make sure people could have a chance at winning their own trip to spacetime?
[00:59:00] Speaker B: Because we don't have the budget for that.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: But you don't have the budget, but your publisher should. I mean, remember those comic book? Remember the Phoenix on the COVID and it's like, if owning this comic, you could win $1 million, that would be fantastic.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: But point being is, if you do buy the book and you do find me at a show or an event or a place, and I am there, I will sign it. If you have an Mxpx CD, I will sign that, too.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: What if they come as a mushroom zombie?
[00:59:35] Speaker B: I will sign your mushroom zombie person.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: No signing.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: No signing mushrooms.
[00:59:44] Speaker B: Okay. I will take a picture with you as a mushroom zombie. There we go.
Space camp. We can talk about it and we can both commiserate on how we both want to go. But there's no way. There's no way. No way, Dan.
[01:00:05] Speaker A: No way. Okay, I'm sorry.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: That's like saying the podcast is going to send everybody to.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: Now, hold up. Before you say anything about this podcast. Anybody that listens to this podcast already knows where this podcast sends them to.
[01:00:25] Speaker B: Where's to send them to?
[01:00:26] Speaker A: We don't ever have to say it. No, they know. They know. They know. Okay, you just listen and you know.
We know where we send you to.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Okay, good to know. Good to know. All right. You never have to say good to know.
[01:00:43] Speaker A: Well, hopefully, despite the fact that you can never deliver on the promises I make, you'll still get a copy of this.
[01:00:51] Speaker B: There you go.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: Well, the good news is that we are done for now. But if you come back next week, you can hear us talk about a cold, lonely day in hell.
[01:01:02] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. That's like every day.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: Legion of superheroes 280. Get reading. Okay, these are good books, we promise you. I better read it at least until you get to 290. You may be able to find them in dollar bins. Now, 290 through 294, a little bit.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: Harder to get because they're making a movie in my mind.
[01:01:20] Speaker A: I don't think they are.
[01:01:21] Speaker B: Mind.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: Oh, I wish.
[01:01:22] Speaker B: I know, me too.
[01:01:23] Speaker A: That movie would be epic.
[01:01:24] Speaker B: I'm just going to start saying stuff and I want to just like, mother. President.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: No, that's my gimmick.
[01:01:30] Speaker B: Mother. President Mommy.
[01:01:33] Speaker A: President.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: No, Mommy.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: President Mommy. President mom. Get it right.
[01:01:38] Speaker B: President mom. That's the idea that we have. President mom.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: President mom.
[01:01:42] Speaker B: DC. Hit me up. President mom.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: DC Comics. President mom.
[01:01:47] Speaker B: President mom.
[01:01:48] Speaker A: Wait, wasn't mom the vice president in.
[01:01:53] Speaker B: Yeah, his. His mom was.
[01:01:55] Speaker A: No, mom. Wasn't. Vice president. What's his face was vice president. No, the native american fellow was vice president. No, he was secretary of the interior.
[01:02:05] Speaker B: Mom. Was the vice president.
[01:02:06] Speaker A: Was he? Was mom the vice president? Yeah.
[01:02:09] Speaker B: No, but we need president mom. Where the son is or was he secretary of state?
[01:02:18] Speaker A: These were many episodes ago. I don't remember Prez's entire now.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: We're going to need to read the new Prez.
[01:02:23] Speaker A: Waff said new. Well, the new pres were interesting.
She was cool.
[01:02:29] Speaker B: Whole new thing I like. Anyways, that's enough about that.
[01:02:34] Speaker A: Wow. Just very dismissive. He's like, Dan, I have to go. That's enough about pregnancy minutes ago. All right, that's fair. Well, Greg needs to leave, and so that means our podcast is over.
Much to the happiness of our one listener. But we will be back with you next week. So this is just one more amazing episode of Funny book forensics. I hope you enjoyed it. We did. And we will see you later. As long as you're not a zombie. Don't be a zombie mushroom.
Bye bye.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: I got to find the button. Oh, gosh.
Close.
