Funny Book Forensic 445 Oh The Horrors

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Counting down. [00:00:05] Speaker B: We're recording. It's exciting. [00:00:09] Speaker A: Yes, very. [00:00:10] Speaker B: We're sogging. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Where is sogging? [00:00:14] Speaker B: How do you saga ing? [00:00:15] Speaker A: You're saga. [00:00:18] Speaker B: Saga ing. We're not sagging yet, though we are getting to chapter two of Saga because we will. Amazing. As you recall, our young friends had a baby. [00:00:32] Speaker A: A baby. [00:00:32] Speaker B: They were almost murdered. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Almost murdered. [00:00:36] Speaker B: They're wandering away. They found a map. [00:00:39] Speaker A: A map. [00:00:41] Speaker B: There was a bounty hunters coming to get them with weird unicorn lady bounty [00:00:46] Speaker A: hunters and a giant lion cat. [00:00:48] Speaker B: And then they found the war and they don't know what to do. And then we were going to start chapter two. And chapter two has weird spider hands on it. And I somehow think this is your fault. [00:01:03] Speaker A: It's my fault. Oh, Dan, you said you love it. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Or. Or Travis just steals from Power Pack and Saga. What? [00:01:13] Speaker A: No. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Even though I know he wrote the original script that he submitted before Saga came out. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Yes, way before. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Just tell you how long comics take to get done. [00:01:26] Speaker A: A long time. [00:01:27] Speaker B: Travis wrote that workout for Power Pack a long, long time ago. And it eventually became Starlight. [00:01:32] Speaker A: It's comics. Comics. It's never. People are like, oh, that person's an overnight success. Nobody's an overnight success. They've been working in an industry or trying to work in an industry for years before things turn. And then when you finally get your book idea out into the world on paper and move it from paper to production, you're still a long ways out. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Well, we are just off coming back from Summercon. This comes out a couple weeks later. So you. Summercon happened like a month ago by the time this comes out. But. Oh, yeah, on our way back and we have some announcements coming out of Summer Con. Yeah, one Summer Con sucks. What? [00:02:17] Speaker A: No, it was fantastic. [00:02:19] Speaker B: Thomas didn't even show up on Friday. Like, and they advertised him. Didn't put any announcements out. Up. They had a giant empty, empty area. In the artist area. They had Dev Madden sitting out in a. Outside under a tent. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:34] Speaker B: In the heat area, they had like. In fact, the other. Our Dev and the other artists all got together and got him moved inside a void. They had two rows of empty. Two. Two whole rows of just empty places where nobody was. It was absolutely ridiculous. The show is just. It. It, you know, it sucks because it's one of two shows here, you know, in the area. I mean, well, three if you count Grid City, but I'm. I want to say two. One of two big, big three day shows. Right? [00:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:11] Speaker B: E, triple C, Emerald City Comic Con. And you have summercon, which is Closer to our house. It's convenient. It's nicer to go there. Well, easier to go there, certainly. The parking is free. They can't. At least, at least the fair hasn't started charging for parking, I believe only because they just don't want to man the parking booth. I mean, that's, that is the sole [00:03:30] Speaker A: reason you jinxed it now, Dan, next [00:03:33] Speaker B: year, parking, the show was so infinitely, just terribly disorganized that I come in in the morning at 11:30, so you could start going in at 11. I go in at 11:30. I walk in with my ticket. I walk through security, I ask if they're going to scan my ticket. They were more concerned about checking my bags than anything. They said no. I walked around the whole day with no badge. [00:03:56] Speaker A: No badge. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Not one person asked, checked anything at all. I mean, it's just a shit show there. [00:04:04] Speaker A: You couldn't have left and come back in as where My experience going through the line was. [00:04:09] Speaker B: No, I could have left and come back in because they would have scanned my ticket for the first time. [00:04:13] Speaker A: They would have, yeah, they would have, yeah. No, my experience. [00:04:15] Speaker B: You got a full pat down. I got, I had a big beulah who wanted to, you know, touch you in inappropriate places. [00:04:22] Speaker A: I had to go through the, the scanner three times. I had to have my bag checked. I had to empty pockets, show my show, my legs, everything. It was a, it was an ordeal. [00:04:34] Speaker B: It's quite the art. And then, you know, we go in and they again don't deliver what they promise. Which, you know, their biggest comic guest. Not there, just not there. No explanation, no sign, no reason. The other writers and artists that worked with the man didn't know why he wasn't there. They were concerned and yeah, about right. They're like, why isn't he here? And another person wasn't there too. Just didn't come the entire first day. No reason, no sign, no explanation, nothing. Zero, nada. And it's just an unacceptable way to treat the people who pay for the tickets to come to your show. [00:05:10] Speaker A: And if that's what they're coming to the show for, it's, it's frustrating and annoying to show up and to have that expectation with no explanation. Just, you know, here you go. That's it. Sorry. Not even a sorry. [00:05:28] Speaker B: And then I wasn't there to see celebrities, but like Tara Strong was in a tent. Yeah, they put like several famous voice actors. [00:05:38] Speaker A: And you met K Mechi, so who [00:05:43] Speaker B: was in a tent. [00:05:43] Speaker A: In a tent. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I wanted to apologize to her. But then it's not my place that you are in this tent and you know, dressed as, as, as Velma and I'm sure very hot inside a tent in the heat. [00:06:01] Speaker B: Yes, it's and, and we weren't there to see celebrities. I think the saddest misstep on the celebrity side was that Demetrius Johnson was in the nice area, but should have been in the, the other hall with Artist Alley because he has a web comic. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Yeah. With the, with the comics people that he wants to hang out with. [00:06:20] Speaker B: So yeah, I, I was like, I mean, greatest pound for pound fighter in the history of the world. You don't know that, but I do. [00:06:28] Speaker A: I, I, I, I will. [00:06:31] Speaker B: But Washington High School of all places from, you know, from local guy. Freaking Parkland. From Parkland. From Stanaway. Yeah. Like local guy. Best fighter in the history. Best pound for pound fighter in the history of the world ever. And right there and wanted to talk comics. We once Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul and I once saw him sneaking in the back edge of ECCC before COVID Paul went up and said hi. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:00] Speaker B: And ask him, just ask him if he could say hello really nice. He was just lowkey. And yeah. I mean get, you know, Summer Con, Figure your out. You know, you're big enough now and then, and then and then more and then. Well, you know, we didn't go on Saturday, but if you wanted to see panels afterwards, some of the big panels, they were charging for those. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Oh my goodness. Like I what I mean, and they [00:07:30] Speaker B: had rides and games open. Right. Like maybe that's your thing. But like you've got all these vendors come in, pay for a booth. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:38] Speaker B: And then you're going to have carnival games compete with them that you're making [00:07:41] Speaker A: the money off of and taking money out of their pockets potentially that you've already charged them to be in this event. Yes. You've charged the vendors to be there. You have now diminished their returns for anything that they're hoping to get. It's, it's kind of unsafe. [00:08:00] Speaker B: And maybe this is a commentary on all comic shows. I don't know. So if you tuned out because we're talking about summercon, just advance a couple of minutes. But I, I, it's, it's terribly disappointing the state of things. And you know, we'll, we'll keep, we'll keep going on Friday. We're gonna go one day and that's it. But we're not going to go any other days. [00:08:20] Speaker A: I, I will say it's, it Was it was sad to see or not see faces that you would have seen because of whatever reason they weren't there, but most likely. [00:08:36] Speaker B: Well, and I think some of the artists have figured it out. Like. Yeah, I think Ron Randall's figured it out. Like, just not to go. [00:08:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:08:44] Speaker B: But then there's some others, you know, we love. There's some folks we loved seeing one, we talked to Steve Englehart. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:52] Speaker B: And because we were just talking about Millennium, I had this book signed on purpose because it themed with the show. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker B: And some people know Steve Englehart for dropping acid and writing Doctor Strange in the 70s. However, we were talking about. We were talking about Millennium and his run on Green Lantern Corps. And actually we went up, nobody was there at his table. We is the saddest thing ever to me. We go up, we have this super long con. We just ask him one question. Ended up having like a 35 minute conversation with him. Told us all about why he actually left dc. So we found out. [00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:28] Speaker B: So it wasn't. It wasn't the lack of critical acclaim or success of Millennium, though he did agree with us that the compressed timeline on Millennium would have been very expensive for kids to buy the books. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is. [00:09:42] Speaker B: Which was our problem, probably would have contributed to part of its lack of success. But apparently the new Guardians book we referenced, remember the new Guardian person was running around with Booster Gold and. [00:09:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:54] Speaker B: In the last issue. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Right. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Well, the. It turns out new Guardian series, he was supposed to get to have full editorial control, almost like an independent book. He starts writing. He writes to two issues and they tell him no. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Well, he wrote one issue and plotted the second issue and they told him no. And one of their objections was a hero who was powered by cocaine. I mean, fantastic. [00:10:23] Speaker A: It's their go go powder. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Yeah, well, no, it's. That's what, that's what this cover is all about, right? [00:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:10:33] Speaker B: So that was a fan. So he left and went and worked for other people so where he'd have more control. So good for Steve. I mean, standing up for himself. But it was a fun story. And. And then we saw him later in the day. He. He got bored because nobody's going to the table. So he went for a walk and stopped to talk to us. And then I was all awkward because I didn't know what to do because it was a real human talking to me and I was very confused. [00:10:57] Speaker A: And it was real life talk too. It wasn't comics, it wasn't anything else. He just want. He Just. He saw us. [00:11:02] Speaker B: He. [00:11:02] Speaker A: He gave us. He. Guys, how's it going? And we just talked for. [00:11:06] Speaker B: I had no idea what to do. [00:11:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, we were just talking about stuff. Life in general stuff. Just regular old people things and where [00:11:13] Speaker B: to go get beer and Puyallup, you know? Yeah, it was. [00:11:16] Speaker A: It was just such a. A. A. A normal conversation. [00:11:22] Speaker B: Well, you will also. You will also recall that on one of our Christmas episodes, we covered the wonderful Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Yes. Yes, we did. [00:11:32] Speaker B: And so I went and got Simon Bisley to sign my Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special, and he was also exceedingly nice. Talked to us for not a half hour. Like, 20 minutes. [00:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah. With a line of people. [00:11:48] Speaker B: Line of people. He did not care. [00:11:49] Speaker A: He just kept signing their stuff and just kept talking to us. [00:11:53] Speaker B: Yep. And we got to hear all about working with Keith Giffen and drawing Lobo and how they ask him to come back and draw Lobo for the new series and that Tony Fleeks. Or wait, no, Tony Fleeks is doing Deathstroke. Tony Fleeks does Stray dogs and. And feral. So I was excited to buy. See what he did with Deathstroke. It is actually good. I'm trying to remember who's doing the new Lobo. I'm totally drawing a blank, but I guess they asked him if he wanted to come back and draw some covers and stuff, and then they started telling him how he could draw Lobo. [00:12:27] Speaker A: Okay, this is how you can draw a logo. [00:12:29] Speaker B: And he's like, yeah, I'll pass. I invented the whole artist. He invented this. Keith Giffen did the original Lobo in Omega Men, but obviously this is the Lobo that everybody knows. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:41] Speaker B: And. Yeah, so that's the funny thing. We also visited a comic booth, and I actually bought a bunch of stuff after you. So I bought this while you were there. [00:12:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I saw that. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:56] Speaker B: However, you left, and I have something to show you. Actually, I have to walk over and get it. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:13:01] Speaker B: You're gonna have to banter, but there were a couple things. For 10 bucks, I got the first issue of the Creeper and the second issue of the Creeper. [00:13:10] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:13:11] Speaker B: The Ditko. This was the other Ditko book, so not Hawk and Dove, but this was the other 60s Ditko book. [00:13:16] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:13:18] Speaker B: In honor of our other podcasts, I got Avengers 118 with the defenders coming through. [00:13:25] Speaker A: Nice. [00:13:28] Speaker B: In honor of Greg and Keith Giffen. Rest in peace. [00:13:34] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:13:35] Speaker B: I got Ambush Bugs, first appearance in DC Comic Presents. [00:13:39] Speaker A: Nice. [00:13:40] Speaker B: I don't think it was his first appearance, but it was his first appearance in DC Comic Presents. And I also got a Superboy book I had not gotten to own. And this was not $10, it was $4. So if anybody's reading. I did not pay $10 for this $1 book. I did pay $4 for this $1 [00:13:55] Speaker A: book, but inflation, man, everything. [00:13:59] Speaker B: And then I got a bunch of. I got a bunch of my secret society of supervillain fill ins, so. [00:14:05] Speaker A: Oh, very cool. [00:14:06] Speaker B: I was very excited. So you here, I'm gonna go grab this. You can tell them about this vendor because he was interesting because he sold me these things. And then when I grabbed some other things, he's like, yeah, those aren't part of my sale. And I was like, what? I don't know. He seems like a interesting dude. [00:14:21] Speaker A: That's your story, but I'll talk about some other stuff. That's the story about that. Talk about some stuff. [00:14:25] Speaker B: I'm going to grab this thing here. [00:14:27] Speaker A: So overall, though, I mean, it was a. It was a pretty good show despite. Despite some of the things that we may have not been happy about. There was also good stuff that happened too. So just walking around and seeing people that we do like to see and talk with them. It's also weird to be out from the shop and have people recognize me or, or say hi if I don't know them very well. I saw a couple friends that I knew from the shop and I was excited to see them in the real world, but also just like seeing people and, oh, hey, you know, it's. It's always interesting. And yes, I did. I did see the one of the gentlemen who was to perform on Saturday and then. Or yes, on Saturday. On Friday, he's supposed to perform at the shop and then did not come to the shop because, well, he went back to Summer Con. That's my assumption. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Oh, good. Oh, good. You know, well, we saw. We saw Mark. I always say his last name wrong. Monologue. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Oh, Monolux. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah, we saw Travis Bundy who called us out and said we should be interviewing people at the podcast. So, Travis, I'm calling you out. Come on the podcast if you dare. [00:15:39] Speaker A: If you dare. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Travis, pick a comic book you want to review or pick a movie that's terrible that we can all review together. [00:15:46] Speaker A: That's. That's a throw down to you, Mr. Bundy. [00:15:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm calling you out from my basement outside of the public view where you can't hurt me because he is pretty strong. [00:15:55] Speaker A: He is pretty jacked. [00:15:58] Speaker B: He Said I'm. He. I, I feel small. [00:16:02] Speaker A: I, it's, it's, it's funny because you got Dan and Travis side by side. They're, they're both pretty built dudes, so it's kind of funny. It's like you, they both are wiggly with their, with their muscles. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Well, we met Chris from Chris I blank on his last name. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Chris. Oh, you mean Chad. Chad Shears. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Oh, Chad, Chad, Chad. Sorry, sorry, Chad. I was like, Chris. [00:16:29] Speaker A: Well, there was a Chris, but there. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Yeah, Chad Shears. Yeah, we only see him once a year. [00:16:33] Speaker A: Only see him. Well, I mean, I, I, I. Have you seen potential? I see. I had the potential to see him more. [00:16:38] Speaker B: He, he's like, they want us to go to Lilac Comic Con. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we'll have to go to Lilac City. Chad. Chad's been a, a friend for, for a few years now and great artist, fantastic stuff. If you, if you're familiar with Garbage Pail Kids or any, any thing of that ilk, like wacky packages and stuff, you probably have seen his artwork out there in the wild. So he's, he's really just, just fantastic. I buy shirts from him all the time because he always has something interesting and fun to pick up. [00:17:17] Speaker B: And when we saw, we saw Dev Madden, as we mentioned, you know, who got moved inside, also draws cards, of course. Oh, and Chad was reading a copy of Weird War Stories that he went over and grabbed from the same vendor I was grabbing stuff from. And I was super excited by this because I'm like, well, that's the, and it's also exactly what he would read. Exactly. In my brain. So it was perfect. We got to talk to Dev for a few minutes. We, I, after you left, I had like a 45 minute conversation with Chris Warner about what's going on at Dark Horse. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, wow. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Not so good. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:56] Speaker B: As we know, apparently his giant robot that he designed is going into storage somewhere in, in LA too. No, at the store. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, the one that was down at their, at the store. Yeah, at the, at the one in la. [00:18:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:18:13] Speaker A: Oh, that sucks. [00:18:15] Speaker B: So talked to Chris Warner for a long time. See, I feel like. Yeah, that's. And then I, well, before we get to the big announcement, I found, I found this and found the thing. This is something that I'm going to let you take from me. And all you have to do is say, dan, I'm taking that from you. In honor of Steve Gerber and Greg Smith, I found this tabloid. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Oh, Dan, I am taking that from you. Holy crap. I that is awesome. [00:18:56] Speaker B: I I It has. It has. Yes. I bought this after you left. It has both the Defenders and Howard the Duck is healed. As you'll recall, Steve Gerber was writing both at the time. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. It's amazing. [00:19:09] Speaker B: And this reprints Howard the Duck number one. So if you're not on the video, it's a tabloid. Sorry. If you're on audio. This is a Marvel treasury edition tabloid from 1976 with a big Howard the Duck in the middle flanked by the defenders, including Dr. Strange and the Hulk. [00:19:28] Speaker A: That's so cool. [00:19:30] Speaker B: And Valkyrie and Nighthawk. Right, Nighthawk. [00:19:34] Speaker A: That's. Yes. So cool. [00:19:37] Speaker B: So there you go. All right, I'll throw that right back here for the rest of the podcast that you can stare at. [00:19:42] Speaker A: Think about it. I need a bigger box. Yes. A bigger comic book box. [00:19:51] Speaker B: Who are you talking to? [00:19:53] Speaker A: I'm talking to the imaginary old people in the house. [00:19:56] Speaker B: Well, you could hang that. You could mount that and hang it right over your wallpaper there. Right behind you. [00:20:00] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. Oh, I could, but that would, that would not fit into the game room. [00:20:08] Speaker B: Well, you know, you have to, you do have to clear things with Ann about your theming of your rooms. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Maybe you need a comic book themed podcasting room. [00:20:16] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Just for podcasting. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Just for podcasting. Keep it away from the. The side of the house where the kids ride their motorcycles. Thankfully, though, they've treated their regular motorcycles for electric motorcycles. So they're super quiet when you drive, when they're riding. Except for when you're trying to go down the street in a car and all of a sudden, a. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Or except when you stump over them. [00:20:40] Speaker A: No, there's screams. [00:20:42] Speaker B: So, so it is louder. Okay. So anyway, yeah, Summer Con. But last announcement out of Summer Con, we are coming up on our 200th episode since episode 247. [00:20:56] Speaker A: It's been a, it's been a while, people. We. And. And those of you who have been listening with us, this ep. It is for all of you. [00:21:07] Speaker B: Well, we, we. We waited patiently because I wanted to send a text message and Greg said we should do it in person and I wanted to send a text message and Greg said we should do it in person and I wanted to send a text message. Well, Spider man, artist who helped create carnage, Randy Emberlin is going to be our special guest on episode 200. [00:21:28] Speaker A: It's going to make. [00:21:30] Speaker B: He is very nervous about picking. Not about being on the podcast, not about being on the podcast, but we asked him to Pick a comic that he wants to read. And he's like, well, when I was a little kid, I read the DC stuff, but then I got all the Marvel stuff. He was telling us the whole story about how he got into comics, which is fantastic. He was at a. Like, he just got given a whole bunch of the early Marvel stuff, just. And then became a Marvel fan forever. So it's probably going to be a Marvel book of some sort. I don't know what he's going to choose yet, but he's going to choose something. And that is also going to kick off. It won't be every week or anything like that, but, you know, every few episodes, we're going to invite somebody on, and they're going to pick a comic book and they're going to jump in here and we're going to talk to them. [00:22:18] Speaker A: That'll be cool. I hope he talks a little bit about Bill Smith and their. Their. Their early friendship and then continued stuff back and forth as they. [00:22:30] Speaker B: He might do. He might talk about Chris Warner. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I know. It's such a. Well, no, I know it's such a small world with those guys, too. And they all came up around the same time, but some of them knew each other from when they were younger and. And pushed each other in their drawing and stuff. I mean, that's not my story to tell, but I've heard them talk about this over me while in the middle of. Of the two at a table. And. And it was like, oh, my gosh, you guys have been friends for so long. [00:23:03] Speaker B: They're like, oh, yeah. [00:23:04] Speaker A: And. [00:23:05] Speaker B: And Randy's wife Judy just said he's allowed to come on the podcast as long as I don't use the Lord's name in vain. So she. She's okay with me swearing. Any other cuss words, Any other cusses. I said I would do my best. I said, as long as we, you know, I was kind of letting them know, like, you know, if you are of a certain political persuasion, this might not be the best podcast for you. And. And they. They were fine with all of it. Just, no, no taking Lord's name in vain. That was. That was the only request. So that's a fair Judy. Thank you. And I will do my best, as they say, to not go down that road. [00:23:43] Speaker A: I'll. I'll keep this button and every time you start. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll just. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Anytime I started a rant. Yeah, we have a guest, which will probably not happen because. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Oh, it's happened. It's happened. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Well, that's just if it's Travis. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Oh, he's not a guest. [00:23:59] Speaker B: Web. Not Travis Bundy. [00:24:00] Speaker A: Yes. [00:24:01] Speaker B: The web on Travis. Travis Web has been a guest host, and a little bit different. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Well, I mean. And. Well, I mean, there's. Yeah, Yeah, I guess. I guess. Yes. [00:24:09] Speaker B: And Palmer was also a guest host, too. [00:24:14] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:24:15] Speaker B: By the way, we have a. Well, anyway, so we're excited, and we've spent 24 minutes talking about Summercon. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Now we're going to get to 200, [00:24:25] Speaker B: which is actually episode 447, but we'll get there soon. We will get to the content. Oh, I'm going to knock Howard the Duck down. Sorry about that. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Knock Howard the Duck down. He's devaluing it, people. [00:24:40] Speaker B: It's already devalued. [00:24:41] Speaker A: I. Not in my heart, Dan. Not in my heart. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Marvel. I'm gonna have to lay him down. He's not gonna. But, hey, here's a. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Here's a. Here's a. Here's a question for you. Since you're talking about Howard the Duck. Why. Why does Howard the Duck have feathers on the backside? You don't know. [00:25:03] Speaker B: To cover his ass. [00:25:04] Speaker A: Well, to cover his butt. Quack. [00:25:07] Speaker B: There you go. I expect nothing, nothing less the. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Well, that's my dad joke for the day, people, and I'm not even a dad. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? Well, I just got a message from one Travis Webb. We invited him to hop in. I don't know. He says he's at work, so I'm at work. [00:25:33] Speaker A: Oh, man. He's working late, folks. [00:25:35] Speaker B: We asked him to pop on to talk about cyborg parts from the sky. A nemesis story that's coming out on Kickstarter soon. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. [00:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. He made an announcement that it might actually be coming out soon. [00:25:49] Speaker A: It is coming soon to a Kickstarter near you. [00:25:54] Speaker B: Remember cyborg parts from the sky? [00:25:56] Speaker A: Cyborgs? Parts from the sky? A nemesis story? A story about a boy and his nemesis. No, a cyborg and his nemesis. That'd be an interesting story, I guess. That is the story. Oh, my gosh. It is the story. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I wonder if I. I wonder if I sent him a message right now that says, I announced. [00:26:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I. And it's like. But he doesn't. He's like. He's, like, freaking out because he's like, [00:26:27] Speaker B: yeah, can't go out now. [00:26:28] Speaker A: It's not like. And you're like, it's. The podcast isn't live, Travis. People don't. They're not going to get this for weeks, Travis. Weeks you have so much time. And he will say, I don't have that much time, Dan. You don't understand. There's things I need to do in preparation. I've got to take my oatmeal bath. Which, honestly, I just. [00:26:52] Speaker B: Oh. He said he might connect soon, so this would be interesting. We might interrupt Saga. But I just said, don't worry. I announced the new Kickstarter Cyborg parts from the sky and Nemesis story. So. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, good, good. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. We've taken care of that. Well, anyway, we'll put the link. We'll put the link just like we do every week. [00:27:08] Speaker A: Yes, every week. [00:27:09] Speaker B: It's going to be right there. And then you can go there and you can click a button. And then when you click the button, it's going to let you know when stuff happens. [00:27:20] Speaker A: Hey, Dan, how long have we been putting the link out there for people for this, the Kickstarter? [00:27:27] Speaker B: Many months. [00:27:29] Speaker A: What's going to happen when we don't have this to plug anymore? [00:27:33] Speaker B: When we don't have cyborg parts from the sky? A nemesis story to play? [00:27:36] Speaker A: I'm gonna be so sad. [00:27:38] Speaker B: Well, we'll have the book you're writing for it to plug that. [00:27:43] Speaker A: You know, that that's. That's in the future, Dan. We don't want to talk about that. Or. [00:27:49] Speaker B: Or is in the past. See. Well, because you're writing a prequel. It's called Cyborg Parts are being invented to fall from the sky. A nemesis story. [00:27:59] Speaker A: There you go. Yes. [00:28:00] Speaker B: Actually, I messed that up completely. It's called Pre Toasted Cyborg parts. [00:28:05] Speaker A: He toasted Cyborg story. So I was asking big change at the Retro Emporium. [00:28:15] Speaker B: Our. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Our new. Our new employee, as he was eating [00:28:19] Speaker B: a bagel, the name of the new employee. [00:28:21] Speaker A: Well, yeah, haven't you seen the. The Post got a big change. We got a big change coming. [00:28:26] Speaker B: Like Big Sky. That was Tyler Maine. He played Sabertooth. Big sky the wrestler. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big change. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Wcw. Yeah, yeah. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Yes. Big sky. Big change. Big guy. Anyways, he was eating a bagel and that he got over at the bakery, [00:28:41] Speaker B: asked if it was pre toasted. [00:28:42] Speaker A: And I asked if it's pre toasted. And he goes, you know, it's not. I didn't want it toasted. And they toasted it for me. And I was like, but could it be pre toasted? And he goes, well, to answer your question, yes. Because if I didn't want it toasted, but then it. I want. Then I decided I did want it toasted, but then they Toasted it and it wasn't something I wanted. They pre toasted the bagel before I got it. [00:29:07] Speaker B: So therefore pre toast the bagel. They toasted the bagel. No, they. [00:29:11] Speaker A: They pre toasted the bagel before. They pre toasted the bagel before he asked for it. [00:29:15] Speaker B: It was double toasted. [00:29:16] Speaker A: It was. It was pre. He toast. They toasted it pre him saying he wanted the bagel toasted. [00:29:25] Speaker B: Okay, but toasting something before. So that's. That didn't even make sense. It was toasted and it was toasted again. It was double. [00:29:33] Speaker A: Listeners, if you think that I'm correct in the pre toasting of the bagel. [00:29:38] Speaker B: If. If you think he's correct, it's like the global warming debate. We can put people on Fox News as, hey, global warming isn't happening and have a debate. But that's not real because it is happening. So. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Well, I know that that's happening. [00:29:52] Speaker B: Vote for Greg. But voting for Greg is irrelevant because it doesn't exist. [00:29:57] Speaker A: It happens, Dan. Pre toasting happens it. You're a pre toast denier. [00:30:05] Speaker B: All right, you know what? Chapter two. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Chapter two. You know, I bet you they eat pre toasted bagels on. [00:30:12] Speaker B: On Saga. Chapter two. Yes, we've got a cover. And there is a baby grabbing a spider hand, which freaks me the out. [00:30:21] Speaker A: Spider hand, spider hand. Who belongs to that spider hand? [00:30:26] Speaker B: Well, when you see who belongs to spider hand, it'll freak you out even more. So anyway, we get. We flip a page and it looks like we have got a bunch of red kryptonite. Oh, man. Spaceship. [00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:43] Speaker B: Asteroid. Or is that a moon? [00:30:45] Speaker A: I think it's a ship. I think. [00:30:48] Speaker B: And somebody on there is saying, phone, call my agent. Yeah, this is kind of like Alexa, call my agent. And by the way, I did that on purpose. If you're listening and you have an Alexa, it'll. [00:31:02] Speaker A: It'll do it. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Hey, Google, call my agent. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Hey, Siri, you got to get them all. It's like Pokemon. That's why I took all those things out of my house. Because I got tired of like music just randomly, randomly playing. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Okay, Google mine keeps responding now. [00:31:22] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:31:23] Speaker B: Anyway, [00:31:27] Speaker A: anyway, we see a ship. You're getting a phone call. [00:31:32] Speaker B: No. Oh, oh, the will. The will is here again. Remember the will, the will and the. The lion cat. [00:31:38] Speaker A: The lion cat. Not the lion cat. You don't want to. You don't want to say it's a lion cat. It's a lying cat. But the lion cat is lying down. [00:31:50] Speaker B: That's true. Looks very. [00:31:51] Speaker A: So is it laying or lying? [00:31:52] Speaker B: It's like the lying dog is down here. [00:31:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:57] Speaker B: And the agent picks up and it is a seahorse sitting next to the ocean. [00:32:02] Speaker A: It makes sense. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Sure. And he's like, hey, you. Your signal sucks. Where are you? It's kind of like podcasting with you and your crappy Internet. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Hey, my Internet is great. It's. The computer is. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Yeah, your Internet is Comcastic. [00:32:18] Speaker A: It is Comcastic. No, it's Xfinity. [00:32:21] Speaker B: It's Xtastic. [00:32:22] Speaker A: I don't know. Whatever. [00:32:23] Speaker B: They're Comcastic. Comcast works better. Changing it to Infinity was stupid because it's a dumb name. [00:32:28] Speaker A: It is a dumb name, but when [00:32:31] Speaker B: your brand is so terrible, you have to change to a stupid ass name like Xfinity and you change it to Xfinity. Didn't they do that in the 2000s? Weren't we past the XXXX stream movement? [00:32:39] Speaker A: I think so. [00:32:40] Speaker B: Into Xfinity. [00:32:41] Speaker A: But it is. [00:32:42] Speaker B: What does Xfinity even mean? Like, that is the dumbest fucking shit. By the way, do you know they're now advertising that they are fiber because they're a cable line. So they're advertising that they're. So they can. So somehow, somehow they are getting away with this marketing campaign advertising that they're fiber. So they just say they're fiber, confusing everybody who thinks they're actually fiber optic. Right. Where my upstream and downstream is the same and cable wire is incapable of doing that. [00:33:13] Speaker A: Well, you're fortunate and lucky and you have that option. We haven't had that option and probably won't quite have that option for like another year in my area. So I say in my area, not in my town, the town is giving it. But my area, it's slow. It's just how it goes out here with things and stuff. But we like it that way. It lets you reflect on better things. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:49] Speaker A: Dan's like, whatever. He's typing away like a madman. [00:33:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm messaging Travis now. I am listening to you. Travis is trying to log into the descriptor room from his Android. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. It's going to be interesting when he pops on. What will happen then. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I don't know if you think. [00:34:07] Speaker A: If you think my connection is bad. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Well, his signal sucks too, so. Yeah. Well, anyway, uh, the client. The will is like. The client was paranoid about secrecy, but the assignment sounds boilerplate. Lance, a couple of star cross dumb shits. Grab their unlucky brat. Etc. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Yeah, Typical job. [00:34:28] Speaker B: And. Yeah. And he. And the agent's like the wreath Job. So who read the wreath again? [00:34:35] Speaker A: The wreath. It's the. That's the. The mud hole planet. [00:34:40] Speaker B: The. [00:34:40] Speaker A: The mud ball planet. Yeah. [00:34:42] Speaker B: No. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Oh. [00:34:43] Speaker B: Oh, it's. [00:34:44] Speaker A: It's the. I thought that's. Oh, I'm sorry. I got him confused. The wreath, Job, is the. The horned people. People with horns and the magical horned people. Yes. [00:34:53] Speaker B: From where? [00:34:55] Speaker A: Cleave. [00:34:57] Speaker B: No. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Well, he's from Cleave. No, Cleave is where they're at. I'm sorry. [00:35:04] Speaker B: I'm so confused. Yes, you've confused anything here. I need to go backwards. [00:35:09] Speaker A: It's pre toasted. All right. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Do we have a map somewhere? [00:35:13] Speaker A: No. [00:35:13] Speaker B: We get a map at some point. [00:35:14] Speaker A: No, there's no map, Dan. No map. You get a map. [00:35:16] Speaker B: No, there's. There's a map on issue one to [00:35:18] Speaker A: the rocket ship forest with the. With everything else. And that's like. [00:35:21] Speaker B: No, that was the map to the lollipop forest. Yeah. And the. The molasses swamp. Yeah, No, I. No, I remember that. But we had a page that explained, like, the planets, right? [00:35:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:35:32] Speaker B: Landfall, Landfall, Planet. [00:35:35] Speaker A: That's. [00:35:35] Speaker B: That's the moon. [00:35:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And the reef is the people with the horns. It's the moon horn. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Correct. It's the moon that goes around Landfall. And then you're correct. [00:35:45] Speaker A: I'm sorry. [00:35:45] Speaker B: Mudball planet is Cleave. Yes. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Yes. [00:35:49] Speaker B: So I was right, but I was wrong, everyone. [00:35:51] Speaker A: I didn't call it a moon. I. That's no moon, Dan. That's like saying Pluto ain't a planet. Daniel. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Yep. I think we squared Travis away. He's not going to be able to join us today. I know. Everybody's going to be disappointed. [00:36:07] Speaker A: I'm disappointed. Everyone else should be disappointed. I was really hoping to talk to Travis on this crazy thing that we do. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Well, no, I meant. Yeah, I was being sincere that they'd be disappointed. They don't have to hear us. I know. [00:36:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. As we just talked about the moon, [00:36:26] Speaker B: we. We flipped the page and they said they warned him that this would be a bake Off. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Bake Off? Like the Greatest American Bake off about [00:36:40] Speaker B: the Great British Baking show or. [00:36:42] Speaker A: British Baking Show. Yes. Where they bake things. [00:36:46] Speaker B: It is so weird to me that the, like, host of that show. Right. You know, spent an entire sitcom hiding in the closet. Oh, yeah. And now and then he's the host [00:37:02] Speaker A: of a baking show. [00:37:04] Speaker B: Baking show. It's just so weird. [00:37:06] Speaker A: It makes sense. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Kind of. Not. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Not me. [00:37:09] Speaker B: You know, it. [00:37:11] Speaker A: It's the. It's the. The progression. Right, [00:37:15] Speaker B: sure. [00:37:17] Speaker A: You're like, no, it's sure makes total sense. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Well, we are not going through. You know, we are delaying this wonderful comic. And usually we only delay comics that are terrible, but this comic is actually quite good. [00:37:28] Speaker A: It's a beautiful. It's a beautiful comic. Like, I mean, the character. You know, the characters look really good. The. The way that it's drawn, the colors and stuff like that are chosen. Just fantastic. [00:37:43] Speaker B: But we can summarize that apparently there's a person named the stock that is also trying to kill them. [00:37:53] Speaker A: Stuck. [00:37:55] Speaker B: And. And then also that prince. Remember the guy from last time? Prince robot or Prince Robot? He's trying to kill them. [00:38:02] Speaker A: Yeah. A whole bunch of people going after him. It's like the blues banners. [00:38:07] Speaker B: I don't know why they want to kill these folks so bad, you know? [00:38:11] Speaker A: Well, they said because they had a forbidden love and had a child and they don't want people to. To realize that they. That the two sides can. Can fall in love and make a baby and get along. Yes, it would cost. [00:38:27] Speaker B: That would ruin all their profit. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Yes. Their profit. [00:38:31] Speaker B: Right. Because they are. Yeah, that was what was explained. Basically, the entire war is for the sheer profit of doing war. [00:38:37] Speaker A: And they do war not in their own place because they don't want to get that messed up. They do it in other places and let those people fight it out. Choose a side. [00:38:44] Speaker B: Reef and landfall are fine. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Like, they even said they get along. They got along before. Until the war started. [00:38:53] Speaker B: Right. It's like they send them off to a faraway land like the strait of something or something. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:39:01] Speaker B: And then they have them fight. [00:39:04] Speaker A: Typical. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Yep. Are you still messaging Travis? [00:39:12] Speaker B: I just did a ttyt. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Okay. Ttyt, everybody. Oh, no, not. Not you. Not. Not you all to trav. [00:39:20] Speaker B: No, you're still here. We flip the page and Marco and Alana are, like, wrapped up in plants. This. This looks bad. Poison Ivy clearly just showed up and it's. [00:39:35] Speaker A: It's a pretty. It's a pretty dastardly looking situation. They're dire. They got vines around them. It's. It's bad. [00:39:43] Speaker B: Skillful, though, with the vines holding her arm and stuff. Wait, wait. We have spiders and vines. We have spiders. [00:39:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:58] Speaker B: On the COVID Spider hand. And we have vine. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Spider vine. Spider vine. [00:40:09] Speaker B: What? No, this. It's your book. [00:40:13] Speaker A: No. Oh, Travis. Dan. Don't. Don't give. Don't, don't. Don't even. [00:40:21] Speaker B: I see now I know where they got the names for everything, so. And actually. Get out of here. Our narrator's back. Actually, against all odds, I've been alive for three whole days. My family's quest for Cleave's mythical rocket ship forest had sent us doubling back into an all too real endless woods. And they're getting really upset with each other because you've got this pacifist who doesn't want to use a sword anymore and Alana wants Marco to use the sword. I'm getting names right, right, I hope. [00:41:00] Speaker A: Marco and Alana. Yeah. [00:41:04] Speaker B: And apparently the narrator is like, dad has been awake for 65 of the last 72 hours since I was born. And her mom has been alive awake, all of them. So they're probably not thinking very clearly at the moment. Probably. [00:41:23] Speaker A: No. [00:41:23] Speaker B: And now they're in a big fight over stuff. And then he cast a spell. He says, zelke. I don't know what that means. Do we need to translate that again? [00:41:37] Speaker A: If you want to, there's going to be more translations later. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Oh, yeah, that's. I definitely didn't translate them all when I was reading it. I did not. And I'm being sincere. I was. I was reading because it was interesting story. So I was just reading. [00:41:50] Speaker A: You don't need to translate it. That's the thing, though. It's magical words just. [00:41:54] Speaker B: Well, I put velky in Google Translate and it said Polish detected. [00:42:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Which I don't think it's supposed to be Polish. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:06] Speaker B: It says. But apparently that is the word for large in Polish. So. [00:42:10] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. It's Spanish to English translate. It's. It's apparently Slovakian. So there we go. I don't know how large fits there, but the vines all disappear magically. They look like they've been cut up. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Put that other word that he used to. [00:42:32] Speaker B: What other word? [00:42:32] Speaker A: The one at the bottom panel [00:42:35] Speaker B: of. [00:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah. What's that mean, Dan? [00:42:38] Speaker B: It means he hit the ground really hard. [00:42:40] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:42:43] Speaker B: And that means we have to take a drink [00:42:47] Speaker A: because Dan is drinking water. I'm drinking today. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Dan is drinking water. [00:42:53] Speaker A: I'm drinking a strawberry banana mango straw bango. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Well, I'm drinking water because I walked the dogs in the 86 degree weather, which is 11 degrees above northwest standard. Yeah, it's very. Well, dying. [00:43:12] Speaker A: I walked out of my work building and was like, yeah, I realized that [00:43:17] Speaker B: the rest of the United states is like 86 degrees. Like, please. Laughing at us. Yeah, please can we have that? And we're like, yeah, we're. We're all dying up here. So Alana and Marco Polo have a nice discussion about spitting up and the baby spitting up in their mouth or her mouth, Alana's mouth. That sounds gross. [00:43:41] Speaker A: It does sound gross. But what did she learn from that? [00:43:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And they talk about the horrors and the terrible things. And he says he's not tired, just winded. And Alana's like, my drill instructor used to say that wreath soldiers could go a month without sleep. And so part of the mythos, they. Each side builds about each other that they're trying to crush. And Mar is like, yeah, R said the same thing. And then they are talking. They both pass out. And the narrator's like, hey, if there's an opposite of a honeymoon, it's the week after a couple's first child is born. No matter how hard they try, no matter how pure their intentions, everything will go wrong. And that's when the gawkers show up. And this panel is awesome. [00:44:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:35] Speaker B: All these red eyes just appear. [00:44:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:39] Speaker B: Behind them. And this is what happens in your DND campaign when you don't have one person stay up and keep watch. [00:44:47] Speaker A: Everything shows up that you don't want around. [00:44:50] Speaker B: You have a disadvantage on initiative. [00:44:52] Speaker A: Yeah. You have rolled poorly. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Well, we get back to. One of the Landfall soldiers is walking around with Prince Robot 4. And they announced themselves as Lance Corporal McHenry of the 372nd Company at your disposal. And how was the trip? And he's like, dreadful. Should we have a voice for Prince? I'm not sure how he talks. [00:45:23] Speaker A: A computerized voice, maybe. I don't know. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Sounds like he's. It'd be like a regal computerized voice. I. I can't imagine. It'd be like John Cleave, but with a, like, a little bit of a robot twinge. [00:45:38] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. Put that. Put that in your head, people. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Well, he says it was a dreadful trip. He'd rather fly commercial than another one of those godforsaken things. Yeah. What an insult, too. [00:45:53] Speaker A: I know. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Flying commercial. [00:45:55] Speaker A: That's terrible. [00:45:57] Speaker B: And so while she mentions that he needed a lift to the main detention facility. And. And they mentioned that. The Mooney. So apparently that's what they call the wreath folks. The Moonies. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Moonies. [00:46:12] Speaker B: Now, was that like a cult? [00:46:14] Speaker A: It was, yes. They would hang out at the airports and ask you to take their. Their little pamphlets and stuff like that, and sometimes money, if you had it, they. They would never pass it down. Pass it away, or, you know, not pass it up. But yes, the. Yeah, yeah. The Minis used to see them a lot in the day. Yeah. [00:46:38] Speaker B: And. And The Prince Robot 4 finds out that she knew Private First Class. Alana. Well, didn't know her, but she said mostly kept to herself. Read books. And then he gets a rage face. [00:46:56] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:46:58] Speaker B: my kids little TV screening. So, yeah, if we didn't explain Prince Robot the Four. He's got like a TV face. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Yeah, his. His head is a tv. Like a. [00:47:08] Speaker B: But it's like. It's not a digital tv, it's a CRT tv. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Like a. Like a computer monitor from back in the day. Or like the kind that would have a VCR plugged into the bottom. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Right. And he says, sir, are you. And he's like, I'm fine at these books. Were they religious texts? Propaganda? She was like, ah, nothing like that. Just stupid romances. The kind housewives buy at the supermarket. Half naked dudes on the COVID My favorite part of those books. And you know, and yeah, honestly, if the supermarket just wanted to have a whole row of those every time you in, I might go to the supermarket more. [00:47:46] Speaker A: Some do, Dan. Some do. Yeah. [00:47:50] Speaker B: Well, I did just go and buy a whole bunch of meat from the supermarket. [00:47:53] Speaker A: So get your meat and your meat. [00:47:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah, this is no joke. I showed up at the Fred Meyer on 19th. Yeah, the big Fred Meyer. [00:48:04] Speaker A: The big. [00:48:04] Speaker B: The one where I interviewed for my job in high school. Yeah, yeah, because it's on. They called it the Stevens Fred Meyer. And I didn't know Stevens was there because before the stoplight, the baseball stadium is on Tyler. [00:48:16] Speaker A: Tyler, yeah, Stephen Tyler, 19th. [00:48:19] Speaker B: And it's on Stevens, which makes no sense. Sorry for the cussing. See, now I hear now. Now that we've talked about the cussing to other people. Now when I cuss, I'm hearing it. I'm like, okay, oh, what am I doing wrong? And I. I go in there too late. Too late. Yeah, it's already way too late. I go. I go in there and like, half of their meat market was on. Like, you know, all the little stickers they put on to mark everything half off or whatever. Half the meat. Yeah, I bought like the dry. The standing freezer full of meat. [00:48:53] Speaker A: Oh, full of meat. You're gonna have a meat. [00:48:55] Speaker B: Crazy. Probably. I mean, it's healthy. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Does it blend? [00:49:01] Speaker B: I'm definitely gonna make some. Some boneless, skinless chicken top thighs. Yum, yum. Well, anyway, they wish they. I don't know how I got distracted by that. [00:49:11] Speaker A: It was the. The. The. The book covers. Oh, yeah. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. We're reading a different comic that didn't talk about that stuff at all. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Dan goes into Tangents. Tangential. [00:49:24] Speaker B: I'm not, I'm. I'm not tangential at all. So the we're back here and we flip back to. [00:49:37] Speaker A: And baby screaming. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Well, yeah, he asked what the book is about. She's like, I have no idea. Now we get back, the baby's crying, wakes up the parents, and Mark is like, alana, we have to go now. And she's like, why is Hazel crying like this? I've never heard this before. And she's like, she sounds scared. And he's like, something's here. And she's like, Then we run. He's like, it's too late. We have to count on our rings to make whatever out there understand. And she's like, he's like, if you can hear us, we mean you no harm. My wife and I, we may look like the armies that invaded you, but we're not them. We've renounced violence. And she's like, most forms. He's like, I lay down my weapon as a gesture of good faith. Please let my family pass in peace. And boom. We have a spider lady. [00:50:39] Speaker A: Yes, A lady who looks like a spider. [00:50:41] Speaker B: And this creeped me the fuck out. I. Yeah, I'm cussing a lot. This, this was genuinely scary. This, this art is terrifying. Yeah, it's going to be even more terrifying in a second. But just the first looks of the, like, it looks like no arm body. [00:51:01] Speaker A: No arm body. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Multiple eyes with the spider face. You know what it is. And just staring at them with all those eyes. Full page panel. And the interesting thing is, you know, sometimes full page panels aren't useful in comics like this, but something perfect. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a, it's a great reveal on a character. [00:51:29] Speaker B: And, and Alana's like, is it, is it. And Mark is like, I don't know, but we're all friends here. My name is Marco. And the spider lady is like, I'm just trying to do my job. They call me the Stock. He's like. And she duh, duh. Apparently the. What I'm starting to figure out means they're a freelancer. Like the will. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Uh huh. [00:51:57] Speaker B: So we got some clues and the fact that Alana yells freelancer. And then she takes her spider tongue. This is even grosser. And stabs Marco through the shoulder. And I was like, disgusting. [00:52:19] Speaker A: It's pretty scary looking. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Alana yells, Mara pulls out a gun and she's like, get away from him. I'll kill you now. In. In Defense of Spider lady, from a fighting standpoint, I think that also the Trained soldier Alana probably should just immediately shot her. Yeah, but then. [00:52:49] Speaker A: But they've renounced violence. You won't. [00:52:51] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's a stun gun. Apparently not with a stun gun. You want. Sorry, sister. And she throws away the veil, or the, the, the dress, whatever. The skirt. And unveils her whole spider body with one hand holding a gun, another one holding a shotgun. A pistol, shotgun, mace, battle axe and a dagger. [00:53:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:53:15] Speaker B: And it looks like the stock is ready to eviscerate whatever is in her path. And Alana's like, then shut up and kill me already. And she's like, I will. But you'll be relieved to know my employee have requested that I bring them your creepy mutt unharmed. So just like the will, you're not allowed. And Prince Robot, they're not allowed to kill the baby. So Hazel is apparently safe. So Alana, because Alana is smart, aims the gun at the baby's head and says, come close to us and I'll kill her. Because they know the freelancers won't get [00:53:54] Speaker A: paid if they don't have the baby. [00:53:59] Speaker B: And then they have a discussion and she's like, you wouldn't. She's like, you don't think I do whatever it takes to save my only child from ending up, like, with a. Don't say that. I don't say that word like you. I do have my limits and, but it is a word often directed at women that is very derogatory. It starts with the C. And. And she says easily, let's just all take a deep breath. And then she's. The stock looks at Alana. She starts to pull the trigger and says, damn. And she's like, what's that? Stop making that noise. And the stock is like, it's not me, it's the. And is like, what? And she's like, I once saw a pack of them rip a man spying out through his urethra. [00:54:49] Speaker A: Oh, my. That's a visual. [00:54:52] Speaker B: I, I, I'm trying to figure out how to. That works in physics. [00:54:57] Speaker A: It really doesn't, but it is a [00:54:59] Speaker B: very [00:55:02] Speaker A: interesting mind bender. [00:55:08] Speaker B: Well, she says, if they take their time digesting you three, I might have some time, so I'll give it a shot. So off goes the stock leaves. While I was like calling her out, you're running away? And she runs back over to Marco, is like trying to tell him to wake up, like needs him. And then the eyes all appear again and he starts saying, hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello. We've been watching you. And you get Dead kids. [00:55:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Ghost children. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Yeah, Red ghost children. You've got one that is cut in half when her intestines handing it out. You've got one with half a head. Got others that have been shot up. And the ghost child says in front, the one that's got just the intestines hanging out with no bottom side just floating there and says, it looks like you could use a hand. And we flip the page into white. End of chapter two. [00:56:17] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:56:22] Speaker B: This is, this is fantastic. Upon reading the first two chapters, I read the next four and I know you read the whole book already, so yeah, I said we might cover a couple issues this time, but I think we're going to leave it there because we had a lot of stuff to talk about. But yeah, and this also give you some time to catch up with us. [00:56:45] Speaker A: Catch up. Go get these. [00:56:46] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah, it really good. [00:56:53] Speaker A: It is. It's a solid book. You know, it's got a lot of, a lot of solid to it. [00:56:58] Speaker B: It's fantastic. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's, it's got depth, it's got, got good storytelling, great art. It makes you think it's highly, it doesn't drag. [00:57:11] Speaker B: It just, even though there are a couple pages with a lot of words on them toward the beginning of the this book. Yeah, it doesn't drag. And they're using words when words are appropriate. [00:57:20] Speaker A: Yeah, you just move through it and you're like, oh, okay, let's, you know, let's keep the, let's keep going. That's how it's so easy to read through multiple chapters or issues of this at a time. You know, it's. I, I, I, I've said it before and I'll say it again. When I picked this up from Fantasium and all the ladies were like, you gotta buy this. And I was like, okay, I'll check it out. And I read the book fair while hanging out. Like, we're all hanging out. And I read the book and I was like, are there more? And they're like, no, not yet. And I was like, oh. Because I just wanted the next, the next issue. [00:58:04] Speaker B: It's sort of like when you read through Junior Braves of the Apocalypse and you read issue one and issue two and you're like, or, well, graphic novel one and graphic novel. [00:58:13] Speaker A: I was going to say when you're [00:58:14] Speaker B: like, is there more? [00:58:16] Speaker A: Well, I mean, in the future possibly, but I know when they release it digitally, it was. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Wait, what did, did you just say? [00:58:25] Speaker A: I said possibly because if you play the RPG game, you can make your own story. With your own characters. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Wait, wait. Okay, wait. Let's go back to Saga and then I, I've got a follow up. Yeah. Okay, so Saga, you were saying they make more. Yes. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was one of those like, I, I just, I needed to, to read the next one, but I had to wait. And it's just how it is sometimes. So. [00:58:51] Speaker B: Okay, so you gotta wait. So sometimes you have to wait. And then sometimes as we're gonna do Saga number three and maybe number three and four next time. Okay, so now, of course we have, Did I hear correctly? Not tomorrow, not next month, maybe not. It could be 12 months from now until we get a book. But is it my understanding it's very likely. [00:59:23] Speaker A: I know nothing about what you're talking about. A Junior Braves number three on Kickstarter, Dan. I don't, I can't, I can't fulfill your, your, your dreams and wishes with any answers at the moment. I can't tell the, tell the listeners anything like that either. So you'll just have to wait. But if you want to continue the story, you can play the RPG and make your own story. [00:59:50] Speaker B: Is it true that things have changed in a way that would allow you to. [00:59:56] Speaker A: Not quite yet. So that's why I can't talk about it. I'm so sorry, Dan. That's why I said I, I, I can't, I can't tell you one way or another. And I'm pretty sure [01:00:12] Speaker B: I try to get students on the show and it's, it's like talking to the president. [01:00:15] Speaker A: I, well, hey, no, I'm not rambling on and on about whatever and then falling asleep midway through the discussion and taking a crap my pants. I, I already crap my pants before we did the show and I've been sitting here with them. Yeah, well, I, I, yeah, you were talking on and on about whatever and yeah, so I fell asleep and cried my pants. We did the show. So I do it in a slight different way. But Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul would, would advise that I don't talk about the future at this moment. [01:00:48] Speaker B: Okay, so we can't talk about Fight Club. [01:00:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, Fight Club is a, is the thing you got to keep wraps on. [01:00:55] Speaker B: Can't talk about it, definitely. And you, and you should never talk about Fight Club 2 because what an abomination that was. [01:01:02] Speaker A: Fight Club 2. I like the comics. The Fight Club comics. Those are great. [01:01:10] Speaker B: The number two [01:01:13] Speaker A: Fight Club. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Terrible. Well, anyway, you lost me on that note. It's like, I've got a sleepy dog. [01:01:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Got some Food to cook. Greg has to go to the Retro Emporium on Meeker street in Kent, Washington, where you can live, relive your childhood and help and do something at the store. [01:01:34] Speaker A: Yes, it is that time of the year again. [01:01:38] Speaker B: But we'll be back next week with some more saga. Maybe an announcement from Travis Webb. [01:01:43] Speaker A: Maybe. [01:01:45] Speaker B: Hang on, let me get that title right. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Oh, he's got the title for you, folks. It's in a good one. You have the title. [01:01:51] Speaker B: Cyborg. Cyborg Parts from the Sky, A Nemesis Story. [01:01:55] Speaker A: Okay. [01:01:56] Speaker B: Is the official title. You can look it up, guaranteed. I know I got it right this week. [01:02:00] Speaker A: He did it. He did it. And that's when you, when you click on the link, it'll take you there. [01:02:07] Speaker B: And Cyborg Parts from the Sky, A Nemesis Story. I, I literally cannot. If Travis is able to join us next week, I, I can't imagine what he's going to say. [01:02:18] Speaker A: I, you know, I don't know what he would say. [01:02:20] Speaker B: And I'm sure it's going to be very complimentary of how I've promoted his book for all these months. [01:02:24] Speaker A: It's. He's going to be. Thank you so much, Dan, for all the, all the love and talking the book up. Yep. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Well, I, I think that's it. So basically I can't talk about it. I can't talk about it. I can talk about it. I can't talk about it. And I can talk about it. And that's a perfect ending for funny book forensics. [01:02:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Just shut up, man. [01:02:48] Speaker A: Just shut up. Damn. [01:02:50] Speaker B: And be done. [01:02:50] Speaker A: Damn. Wow. [01:02:54] Speaker B: Just be quiet just to me. I wasn't telling you to show up. [01:02:57] Speaker A: No. Okay, okay. [01:03:00] Speaker B: Okay. [01:03:00] Speaker A: Well, thanks a lot, folks. [01:03:02] Speaker B: See you next time. We'll be back with more Saga. Read Saga it. Good bye. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah.