Funny Book Forensics 429 Hawk and Doc In Mexico

Episode 429 March 08, 2026 01:20:42
Funny Book Forensics 429 Hawk and Doc In Mexico
Funny Book Forensics
Funny Book Forensics 429 Hawk and Doc In Mexico

Mar 08 2026 | 01:20:42

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Greg and Dan review Booster Gold #17 from 1987. A Cheshire Cat attacks a Hawk. Booster stops a doc. The inker is no star. This and so much more on another fun show!

Writer: Dan Jurgens; Penciller: Dan Jurgens; Inkers: Arne Starr; Letterer: Bob Lappan; Colors: Gene D'Angelo; Editors: Barbara Randall(Kesel)

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00:00 Squatcho Man Kidnapping Debate
01:15 Beef Jerky and Vegan Squatcho Man
03:53 Unfathomable Times to Titans
04:10 Teen Titans Cover Breakdown
07:16 Inker Switch and Art Gripes
08:18 Cheshire Lips and Page Seven
09:43 Sprained Ankle and Cow Ice
10:24 New Series and Danhausen Rant
12:43 Cheshire Lab Break In
15:29 AI Slop and Biochemical Plot
20:38 Booster Buys US Biotech
23:37 Abs and Ass Art Roast
30:10 Mexico City Hawk and Malthus
36:14 Robin Death Tease
37:10 Hawk and Doc Scheme
39:10 Booster in Mexico
39:44 Art Roast Begins
44:58 Racist Jack Panels
46:14 Bacteria Ethics Talk
50:56 Cheshire Steals Sample
56:14 Helicopter Disaster
01:00:26 Force Field Fix
01:00:55 Classic Comic Ads
01:05:33 Gold Exchange Letters
01:15:32 Wrap Up and Plugs

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[00:00:06] Speaker A: With me, Greg. Don't start with me, Greg. I don't want to hear it. I know the Squattro man is not at fault. I know that you kidnapped yourself. [00:00:15] Speaker B: I didn't kidnap myself. [00:00:17] Speaker A: It on the Squatro man. [00:00:18] Speaker B: How could I kidnap myself? [00:00:21] Speaker A: You turned the Kent police on the Squatro man. That. [00:00:25] Speaker B: No, there was no such thing. [00:00:27] Speaker A: The. [00:00:27] Speaker B: The KDP would never, never go after the squacho man. [00:00:32] Speaker A: Yes, only because you misled them. I. [00:00:35] Speaker B: No, no, no. I did not mislead them. I did not tell them to go find the squacho man. I did not say squacho man kidnapped me. I did not get kidnapped by myself. I did not. None of those things happened, Dan. [00:00:45] Speaker A: L. What do you presume are you saying? I don't see any fur on. So evidence number one that the squash man did not kidnap you. [00:00:55] Speaker B: That's what I said. He didn't. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Well, he. It's all over the Internet that the Squatcher man kidnapped you. [00:01:02] Speaker B: I don't know how that happened. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Well, where have you been? Like, what. What happened? Why weren't you available? [00:01:09] Speaker B: I. [00:01:10] Speaker A: If not kidnapped, you would never skip this podcast. So. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Okay, the Squatro man did kidnap me. I couldn't. I wasn't. We made. We brokered a deal. I wasn't supposed to say anything. [00:01:22] Speaker A: You brokered a deal? What kind of deal did you broker? [00:01:26] Speaker B: I gave him all this. [00:01:29] Speaker A: All this beef jerky from Squasher man is a vegetarian. [00:01:34] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:01:35] Speaker A: Is that the sincere problem we have right now? You don't even know your employees well enough to know whether or not they eat meat. [00:01:44] Speaker B: No, he's had. He's had Morgel's meats beef jerky. He finds it delicious. You can find it at the retro emporium Kent, where the Squatch o man does work occasionally. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Oh, so now you're using an employee you bullied? [00:02:00] Speaker B: I did not bully this employee. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Advertise your own store? No, excuse me, Ann's store. [00:02:08] Speaker B: And. And Morgel's meats, of course. The finest beef jerky from Ken Washington. [00:02:14] Speaker A: I see. Well, this is. This is. [00:02:16] Speaker B: It is the finest. The finest? Yeah, the finest. They're from Kent. [00:02:20] Speaker A: First you discriminate against the like a Squatch a man, then he kidnaps you in a revenge plot, and now you're using him to advertise meat which he doesn't even eat. [00:02:29] Speaker B: He eats the meat. He eats the meat. [00:02:34] Speaker A: I. Well, okay. Well, have you. [00:02:37] Speaker B: Have you ever seen him not eat it? [00:02:40] Speaker A: I have never seen Squatcher man eat. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Then you don't know what he does or does not eat. You don't know if he eats the meat or not. How could you know? He just eats. [00:02:55] Speaker A: I've only seen Squatcher man open containers of coffee creamer. [00:03:01] Speaker B: That's true. And, and, and coffee creamer comes from what? [00:03:08] Speaker A: No, the coffee creamer that he was opening was like the oil coffee creamer. It was indeed vegan. I already had that as an argument. I am 100 sure. [00:03:19] Speaker B: 100% sure. [00:03:21] Speaker A: I am 100 sure. [00:03:22] Speaker B: 100 sure. [00:03:24] Speaker A: I'm 100 sure. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Is that why. That's why it's the cream of the crop. Because it's a, It's a vegan cream. It rises to the coffee. [00:03:33] Speaker A: Coffee mate is not real cream. That is. That is correct. [00:03:36] Speaker B: That's why you can keep it in the desk for un. [00:03:39] Speaker A: That's why you can keep in the desk forever. [00:03:41] Speaker B: Unfathomable times. I mean. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:03:44] Speaker B: I, I don't know. They are. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Yes, we are. We are in unfathomable times. That is correct. But that has nothing to do with this argument. [00:03:50] Speaker B: Oh, they can be fathomed. [00:03:53] Speaker A: I see. Well, what's unfathomable. [00:03:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Is bringing Teen Titans characters into Booster Gold. [00:04:04] Speaker B: It's crazy wild. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Some, Some amazing. I got out a book today. [00:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:10] Speaker A: I got out a book today. It's called Teen Titans, a celebration of 50 years. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? Yeah. [00:04:16] Speaker A: And, and, and it has the greatest Teen Titans stories, presumably of those 50 years, as picked by the editors at DC, of course. that time. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Of course. [00:04:27] Speaker A: And it has. How many times do you think these two characters appear in those greatest stories that are on this cover? [00:04:38] Speaker B: Well, I, I, I'm assuming Booster doesn't appear in many of those stories. I'm assuming Cheshire appears in a few of those stories, and Hawk definitely appears in a few of those stories. [00:04:56] Speaker A: Well, yes, you would be mostly correct. However, I'm looking at the new Teen Titan stories as they are advertised as from the pages of the new Teen Titans. Okay. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:07] Speaker A: And while I see Hawk in the original Teen Titan stories, not seeing a lot of Hawk in the new Teen Titan stories here of the greatest stories [00:05:17] Speaker B: of all time, I can tell you why. Because of this issue of Booster Gold. They don't want this person around. [00:05:27] Speaker A: That's fair. Well, he was in Titan's West, I believe. And. Yeah. And then what's the opposite of patricide? [00:05:42] Speaker B: Matricide. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Remember when we last read Teen Titans? [00:05:47] Speaker B: Yes, yes. It was patricide, where they were killing their parents. [00:05:49] Speaker A: A lot of patricide was the Terror Titans. Yes, yes. The Terror Titans. Tiny what is it when your dad kills you? [00:05:56] Speaker B: Oh, spoiler. Oh, my. I. I don't know. I think that's just straight up child murder. [00:06:09] Speaker A: I mean, admittedly, he was, like, possessed by Azeroth. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Azarathians, [00:06:18] Speaker A: as you know, those darn Azerothian. Yes. And. [00:06:21] Speaker B: And. And forced to. To go on a killing. That's terrible. Terrible. [00:06:31] Speaker A: It was a terrible time. How. [00:06:32] Speaker B: How could you bring this so dark? [00:06:35] Speaker A: Well, I'm just bringing the bad that. I mean, it's fathomable. Well, we do have Cheshire on the COVID We do have Hawk on the COVID We have a cover that says Murder Over Mexico. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Oh, man, this sounds like a great, like, movie title. [00:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And like, I did say, it does say, from the pages of New Teen Titans, cheshire and Hawk. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Oh, okay. New Teen Titans. [00:06:59] Speaker A: But, of course, no doubt, because Dove was killed in the crisis. Of course. On infinite Earths. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Yes, yes. We are doubless. [00:07:07] Speaker A: And it does still tell us that the A History of the DT Universe is must reading. [00:07:12] Speaker B: It is must reading. [00:07:15] Speaker A: We've also had a change of inkers again. [00:07:18] Speaker B: I know. [00:07:19] Speaker A: We've gone from. We've gone to Arnie Starr now. [00:07:22] Speaker B: It's just constant, just being. [00:07:25] Speaker A: It is. Yeah. It is constant. I wish they had been more constant with the last anchor. [00:07:33] Speaker B: Well, yeah, yeah. Well, you don't like this one. You don't like Arnie Star. You don't think AR Star is a star? [00:07:40] Speaker A: I, I. You're looking at the COVID I'm looking at the COVID I'm not liking Arnie Starr over Dan Jurgens. No, not at all. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Then you get to the substantial downgrade in the art. [00:07:55] Speaker B: You get to the interior. You're like, oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. [00:07:59] Speaker A: It's worse. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. Ironing Star. Like, it's not like I disliked all of your work, but this is. [00:08:06] Speaker B: It's just not. [00:08:07] Speaker A: We've made a substantial downgrade of art combination. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah. It just wasn't as good as Dan was expecting. Both Dan's. You, Andrew. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Cheshire's lips are everywhere in this book. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. They're. Well, yeah. [00:08:24] Speaker A: Find a spot on her face. It's not her eyes. Her lips are there at some point. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Well, it's. [00:08:29] Speaker A: I. [00:08:29] Speaker B: You know, I mean, timing wise. All right, Booster Gold. This book was done probably around the same time when Crybaby came out. And. And maybe Arnie Starr is like, ah, you know what? I really like that character Hatchet Face. And in that John Waters movie, let's Go Crazy with those lips. [00:08:48] Speaker A: We've gone to Page seven. You're like, whatever, Greg, we've gone to page seven. Just flipped page seven for a second. All right, tell me in the bottom panels, that is the same person four times. If they didn't have the same color hair and the same shirt on. Yeah, tell me that's the same person four times. [00:09:15] Speaker B: It's not. I mean, it's difficult. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe people can hear me now. Sorry about that. I should put the mic by my face. [00:09:26] Speaker B: You should put the mic by your face? [00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:29] Speaker B: I mean, that's the smart thing to do. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Well, anyway, let's go back to the beginning of the story. [00:09:35] Speaker B: Back to the beginning where it all began. [00:09:38] Speaker A: I'm just like, let's get to this today. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Let's get to it. [00:09:42] Speaker A: I'm hyper focused. There's been a lot of work being done. I sprained my ankle today. It hurts a lot. That's okay. I'm really trying to focus, friends, on this book. My ankle hurts a lot. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Did you put ice on it? Did you put heat on it? [00:09:56] Speaker A: You don't put something. No, I have done none of those things. I was working until 20 minutes before we started. [00:10:02] Speaker B: Put some, like. Wrap some what? You know what you have in your freezer? You have a. You have like, a half a cow. Why don't you wrap a half a cow? [00:10:09] Speaker A: That cow is mostly gone. Greg, what if you put some of the cow nine months ago? [00:10:14] Speaker B: Put some of the leftover cat. The listeners don't know this. Put some of that leftover cow on your. On your foot. [00:10:20] Speaker A: I mean, for transparency's sake, by the way. Yes. To transition away from the ankle talk and better talk. Did you know that listener Jason and I are both extremely happy. Okay. Because there is a new Legion of Superheroes series coming out soon. [00:10:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:37] Speaker A: And a new Jonah Hex series coming out soon. So if you like Jonah Hex, if you like the Legion of Superheroes. [00:10:46] Speaker B: Is Jonah Hex gonna be in the Legion of Superheroes support? [00:10:49] Speaker A: No. [00:10:49] Speaker B: So you should support Jonah Hexes. [00:10:52] Speaker A: No. Here I was trying to do a good thing, and look what you've done. [00:10:57] Speaker B: I'm sorry. I did it. [00:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I was trying to do a good thing. Promote. [00:11:02] Speaker B: Continue things. Continue. [00:11:05] Speaker A: It's exciting for listener Jason. Podcast buddy Jason. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:11:11] Speaker A: And you tried to ruin his book. He doesn't want a Legion of Hexes. [00:11:17] Speaker B: He does. He doesn't want a Legion of Hexes. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Why not be a hex everywhere? [00:11:22] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure he does. That's cursed. You're cursed. You know who would like that listener? Kyle would like it. You know why? Because listener Kyle thinks that when we do things like this, they're funny. [00:11:33] Speaker A: You're cursed. You're cursed. You're cursed. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Ah, if only somebody was watching this. But they're not. You're cursed. See them? Okay, Danhausen over there. [00:11:46] Speaker A: Yes. Yes, I am. I'm Dan and I'm in my house. Jeez. Fact. [00:11:57] Speaker B: Fact. Oh my God. [00:12:02] Speaker A: And by the way, for all the people on Dan Housing's debut. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Oh, don't. [00:12:07] Speaker A: In the World Wrestling Entertainment Company, do not talk to us. [00:12:10] Speaker B: Oh, we've been cursed. You're cursed. Because I mean, we've been fans for. For a while, through everything is. [00:12:16] Speaker A: It was just awful that AEW put him on ice for two years just because he's friends with CM Punk. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:23] Speaker A: And that's just messed up petty crap. [00:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Anyway, it's good that he's working though. However, we did enjoy your show and if you have tickets for us again, we. We're not saying you're bad or anything, you know. [00:12:33] Speaker B: No, no, just. I mean, good. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Don't like what you do. To pretend was a bad situation. [00:12:36] Speaker B: Bad situation. Talent. Bad situation. [00:12:38] Speaker A: You're cursed. [00:12:38] Speaker B: You're cursed. [00:12:43] Speaker A: So yes, we flipped a page and Cheshire is cheshiring on page one. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Uhhuh. [00:12:51] Speaker A: She says this country never ceases to amaze me. I am not sure what she's talking about. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Well, she's not from. But you gotta realize she's. [00:12:58] Speaker A: She's. [00:12:59] Speaker B: She's. She's amazed at what is happening in. She's at U S Biotech, a BGI company. And, and she's. She's amazed at what's happening in the U.S. biotech company in the U.S. because she's spending so much time. She's been spending so much time in. In Russia or other parts of the world. She's a worldly woman, Dan. She travels all over the place. [00:13:27] Speaker A: I will also say, despite Cheshire's culturally appropriated costume, that doesn't have any distinct country link. Is that a fair statement, sir? [00:13:42] Speaker B: It's a fair statement. I mean, she just. Yeah, she just. [00:13:47] Speaker A: I appreciate that they don't draw her stereotypically. [00:13:50] Speaker B: She's worldly. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I appreciate that they don't draw her stereotypically. Yeah, that is good. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Yes, very good. [00:13:58] Speaker A: So that we, we do appreciate that. And we do appreciate like inclusion. And this is the 80s, so. Yeah, they're trying to have other characters, of course. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Actually, this is the villain. Yeah. [00:14:09] Speaker B: Did a good job making a villain. Making a villain. Look, you weren't villains making a villain. There you go. [00:14:16] Speaker A: And the whole Cheshire and Arsenal storyline over time was not so bad. [00:14:22] Speaker B: I know they're not a bad team to Arsenal when you, when you watch them. I mean, you know, not my favorite, but they're okay. What do you. [00:14:33] Speaker A: I have to get my book back out. Let's see. [00:14:37] Speaker B: Not, not. Not the Cheshire and Arsenal. I'm talking about the, the football team. [00:14:42] Speaker A: I bet we don't, I bet we don't find a lot of speedy in here either. Unfortunately, probably not. Or Arsenal. Yeah, probably. Probably for good. And Robin, I found a tiny. Yeah, I do find it questionable when they put tiny Titans in the best Titans. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Tiny Titans and the best Titans. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Talk about art. Dan Haydes. [00:15:03] Speaker B: You don't like that? [00:15:04] Speaker A: No. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Why not? It's, it's good art. [00:15:08] Speaker A: It is. Sure. We have friends that draw this way. I have a card from one of them. [00:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I bought it. It was neat. It's not my Teen Titans. Okay. [00:15:21] Speaker B: He's an angry Dan. He, he likes, he likes Teen Titans where people die in cornfields. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Wow. No, I just knocked my book down. You know, the other thing. Yes. I will get back. I, I, I am very frustrated with a group I'm in on Facebook where somebody continues to post digital, you know, AI slob. And they have now labeled themselves in their profile as a digital creator. [00:15:50] Speaker B: Oh, that's good. [00:15:51] Speaker A: Nice. [00:15:52] Speaker B: Great. You're not a digital creator. You just are a person that, that makes. That types in junk and gets out junk. [00:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Brilliant digital creator. Yes. Did they create the AI? That's a good. Because if you created the AI and then typed things into the AI, it fed it. I could make an argument that you would then be a digital creator. [00:16:18] Speaker B: They had to feed the AI to feed it. Got to feed it. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Well, speaking of AI, Cheshire is clearly worried about some sort of biochemical thing that would destroy the world. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:16:33] Speaker A: And she's bemoaning the fact that Soviet intelligence is much better than she's getting here. She's trying to find the location of the chemical. She's broken into a lab. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:44] Speaker A: Some guards come in. [00:16:45] Speaker B: Guards. [00:16:51] Speaker A: And despite the fact that I now walk around Seattle with people that walk around like zombies. Due to the Sackler family. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, we, we see them in Kent too. Yeah. [00:17:07] Speaker A: It's awful. Uh, we in this book have some sort of Mr. Biochemical that's gonna take out the whole world. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:17] Speaker A: And we're not sure what Cheshire is doing yet. We're not trying. Sure. If she's getting it for the Soviets to use Right. We were finding that out last time when she escaped and took off in the plane. But she's wiped out a bunch of people at this lab, and she's breaking [00:17:30] Speaker B: her way out of there. Yeah. [00:17:33] Speaker A: She's on to Mexico. She's. She. While she murdered those guys. Because as you're aware. Yeah, as you're aware, Cheshire's fingertips. [00:17:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Are razor sharp. Yes. And deadly poison on them. [00:17:46] Speaker B: And she scratched them like a cat. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So she murdered them. Yes. [00:17:52] Speaker B: Straight up. They're dead. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Dead. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, they are dead. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Dead. They are. They are not coming back. This one's by Dan Jurgens, writer Ann penciler, Arnie Starr, inking Bob Lappin, lettering. Gene d', Angelo, colorist, and Barbara Randall Giesel, editor. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. [00:18:14] Speaker A: So let's see. Let's see what. Let's see what kind of Barbara magic we can get on this one. To bring together these characters that seemingly don't belong in a book together at all. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Well, you know, it's funny that you say they don't belong in a book, because they are in a book, so. [00:18:28] Speaker A: They are in a book. [00:18:28] Speaker B: They belong in a book. [00:18:30] Speaker A: We. We will see what happens. Now we flip to a page with Booster Gold in the middle. A man in a suit standing next to him. A man in a. In khakis and a. And a jacket standing there. And. And two blobs down in the corner. [00:18:46] Speaker B: Yes, two. [00:18:48] Speaker A: It. It. Yeah. [00:18:49] Speaker B: They are not. [00:18:52] Speaker A: It's. [00:18:53] Speaker B: They're color blobs of people. [00:18:57] Speaker A: I mean, it's frustrating because we've. We've seen the high quality Jurgens art and. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah. No. [00:19:09] Speaker A: You think he was rushed? Maybe, Like. Maybe. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Is it just thinking. Is it. He draws it a little bit looser and he's relying on an anchor to tighten it up, especially when he's writing the book. [00:19:19] Speaker B: Probably might be column A, column B, [00:19:24] Speaker A: and. Yeah. [00:19:24] Speaker B: A little bit of this. Little bit. [00:19:25] Speaker A: I'm gonna stop bitching about it. It's just really not working for me at all. [00:19:28] Speaker B: There you go. You're not alone against the chaos. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Yeah. It just sucks because, actually, I didn't find the. The written story here to be that bad. [00:19:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, it's pretty. [00:19:40] Speaker A: But it does take a combination of things. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even look at Skeets. [00:19:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he's. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Skeets is no longer symmetrical. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Skeets is flat. It's like. Like when Bob Kane drew Spider Man. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. People played Spider man face. [00:20:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's. It's a. It's a very weird, like, An Easter egg looking skeets. That's not good. [00:20:09] Speaker A: Well, and also like with the guy on, on next to. [00:20:12] Speaker B: On the far side. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Human. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Yet no human could stand on the far side. The one right next to him. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:20:18] Speaker A: No human could. There. The human body does not balance in that way. [00:20:22] Speaker B: No, no, no, I've tried, trust me. [00:20:24] Speaker A: I have a broke. You know, I broke my ankle today. Pretty much we think. Or maybe not. I hope it's not broken. It's a meat on it strain. Wrap it, tape it. You don't, you don't, you don't stand. That's that. You can't do that. Well anyway, Booster Gold's talking to. It says Mr. Gold, I'm fully aware of the fact that you now own U.S. biotech. When did Booster Gold buy a biotech company? [00:20:49] Speaker B: Oh, it's a BGI company is Booster Gold Incorporated. He bought it. He straight up did. I guess maybe he was, he was making some moves in the middle of the night buying things up. I'm Booster Gold and I'm gonna buy some stuff because I wanna, I wanna [00:21:04] Speaker A: go up against that STAR Labs on full capitalist mode. He's like, you're only president as long as I, I let you do this because I'm the boss. Did, did these companies all get bought by Dirk the Jerk while Booster was in the future? [00:21:18] Speaker B: Maybe Dirk the Jerk was like, booster, we got to maximize your money. [00:21:23] Speaker A: And the only way we know, Booster goes broke later. So I don't know how he got. So anyway, it's a. Well, Skeet says. Well that appears to be the fact now Mr. Meyer, any intrusion to secured installation must be investigated at once by experienced personnel. So apparently there was a break in and something bad happened. They're going in and the blobs in the corner are saying that Booster is scrumptious. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Well yeah, they're looking at his backside. Look at that. We can't see it, but they can see it. They're getting a full on show, Dan. [00:21:55] Speaker A: All of a sudden we can see Booster's abs through his costume. [00:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah man. Bam. It's almost like they put one of those stencils on there and. [00:22:06] Speaker A: Well now if you want to talk about art going off the chain, we flip the page and we get an Advertisement for the Dr. Fate series written by DeMattis and Giffen and drawn by some Giffen and Dave Hunt. And we went from this. [00:22:25] Speaker B: Uh huh. Yes. [00:22:27] Speaker A: To whatever that is you're seeing. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:30] Speaker A: For the art style monster mouth. How do you feel about. How do you feel about the no Mouth Giffen art style with mouths on the side? [00:22:38] Speaker B: I. You know, you don't get a mouth, but you get a bunch of mouths on the side. It's a side of mouths with no mouth at all. [00:22:46] Speaker A: I did kind of like in Dr. Fate, how all the Lords of Chaos were just kind of weird mouths. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Well, I mean, that's very chaotic. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Pals are very chaotic. They create chaos. Then we get a flip for a book I actually like. [00:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah. You like this book? [00:23:05] Speaker A: I like the Random Outsiders. Infinity Inc. Team Up. [00:23:08] Speaker B: You like the Gluten Free man guy? He's pretty cool. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah. That's your favorite superhero, right? Gluten Free Man. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Gluten Free Man. [00:23:20] Speaker A: Yeah. He extracts gluten from all the products you eat. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Exactly. And then it makes them safe for everyone to enjoy. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Makes them flat and hard. [00:23:30] Speaker B: No digestible. And not problematic for those who can't eat them. [00:23:37] Speaker A: It's too bad. So we float the page, too. We hit page five, and the blobs in the corner have now become women. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. [00:23:52] Speaker A: She's saying, I want him for a night. And the other one's saying, cheryl, what about your husband? Oh, what's going on here anyway? Sexual harassment. [00:24:03] Speaker B: I know. [00:24:04] Speaker A: That's her boss. I mean, Booster Cold does have a [00:24:07] Speaker B: fine ass there, but they're looking at that gluteus maximus. The Max. [00:24:11] Speaker A: They sure are. I'm looking at that gluteus mask maximus. It is the best thing drawn on the page. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Tight tottenham. [00:24:20] Speaker A: Arnie Star only took anatomy of the ass. [00:24:22] Speaker B: He's like, let me draw this real well. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Nothing else. No other anatomy is good except the abs in the ass. [00:24:32] Speaker B: In the ass. [00:24:33] Speaker A: I'm real. [00:24:33] Speaker B: I'm an abs and ass kind of guy. I draw nothing but abs and assets. My star quality. I'm Arnie Star. [00:24:40] Speaker A: I think this is a. I think abs and ass is a. As a special file I have in a special folder on my computer. [00:24:46] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I believe it probably is. [00:24:50] Speaker A: So we have. We've moved to here. Booster Gold's ass is taking charge. And he's taking charge of the break in. And they see that Cheshire. [00:25:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Has done it. And in classic fashion, it's very nice. The strangely Timberwolf symbol. Skeets. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:14] Speaker A: That is Timberwolf symbol from Legion. Right on his face now. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Yes, it is. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Is now projecting. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Something through the Timberwolf symbol and it's Cheshire. And he tells them all about it. She's super strong. She's got fatal poison on her. Razor sharp Fingertips. I did like this as a storytelling device. We learned about Cheshire very quickly. Thank you, Skeets. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Yes. And. And then, and then Booster's like, oh, I like that kind of lady. That's my kind of woman. [00:25:42] Speaker A: He likes murdering. [00:25:43] Speaker B: Oh, I thought he just like strong women that were fast, agile. [00:25:49] Speaker A: Oh, I thought he liked the women that were fast out of agile and murdered people. [00:25:53] Speaker B: Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. Oh, man. Booster Gold a bad guy, are you? [00:26:01] Speaker A: You know what I had for lunch today? [00:26:02] Speaker B: What'd you have for lunch today, Dan? [00:26:04] Speaker A: I had. Are you ready for this? [00:26:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm ready. I mean, let me. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Rice and pork belly. [00:26:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:12] Speaker A: It was absolutely wonderful. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:26:15] Speaker A: You know, it's like the broken rice and they put the fried egg on top and then the pork belly on the side and the pickled vegetables and it was all things you could eat. [00:26:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Unless there was soy on that. Unless there was soy on the pork belly. And I don't think there was. [00:26:28] Speaker B: Unless they cooked it into Mary. [00:26:31] Speaker A: They may have. It was delicious, though. It was fantastic. That comes to mind because that plate was beautiful. [00:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:42] Speaker A: And when we flip to page six, that beautiful plate is in stark contrast with the art on this page. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Oh, what do you mean? What don't you like about this page? What's wrong with it? [00:26:55] Speaker A: Well, for starters, we are now back to drawing cube landscapes, our favorites. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Cube landscapes. Lots of crazy doors. [00:27:07] Speaker A: This in contrast with the amazing backgrounds we were getting when they were in the future. [00:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:27:14] Speaker A: Is these are like 1960s Spider man backgrounds. But it's the 80s and US biotech is all out of focus. [00:27:26] Speaker B: I kept thinking of my glasses were [00:27:28] Speaker A: bad, if my glasses were bad. I have new glasses, so I need two new pairs of glasses. In fact, I am so old, I got these ones and I also got a pair of the outside ones. You know, that transition that get dark. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Get out of here. You got those kind of glasses, man. Dude. [00:27:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that. I wanted the Booster Gold wraparounds. Actually, I, I, that's what I should get next. [00:27:51] Speaker B: I'm getting up here and there's nothing stopping me. You know why? Because Squacho man said, do it. Do it because you want to. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Well, we have this whole discussion. This investigation is going very on still. It's not very super exciting and. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Is that a fair statement? [00:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a fair statement. [00:28:13] Speaker A: A lot of dialogue, nothing's happening. [00:28:15] Speaker B: And then he's like, hey, guy over there. And he's like, you're talking about dude? [00:28:20] Speaker A: Yeah. They're gonna put Jack in Charge of that. He'll take care of all the things. All right. Skeets has access to local telephone and listings located of Dr. Barrett. This is. So this is. They're gonna find her because she's the key to the mystery. [00:28:36] Speaker B: Okay. [00:28:37] Speaker A: You see? Are they. He. Right. Dr. Barrett is the guy that got murdered. That was in the lab last. Yeah, last issue. Sorry, I messed it up last issue. So he goes there and a woman answers the phone. Answer the door. [00:28:50] Speaker B: Door. [00:28:51] Speaker A: The door. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yes. The phone. Door. The door. Phone. She just. [00:28:54] Speaker A: And after a light of dialogue, she discloses that he may be involved in something and horrible. [00:29:00] Speaker B: He might be doing something terrible. It's. [00:29:03] Speaker A: We got about. Got about 75. No, there's a lot of words here. How many words? We get like 200 words to tell us that. That he might be involved in something terrible. [00:29:11] Speaker B: Yeah, he's been. He's been doing terrible things. [00:29:15] Speaker A: And she's four different characters. [00:29:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:19] Speaker A: She looks different each and every. [00:29:20] Speaker B: She gets older and younger at the same time. And her face changes and her hair very weird in her eyes. And then Booster Gold looks different too. It's. It's. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Well, we flipped the page. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Bing bong. [00:29:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we flip the page and we get Timberskite. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Timberski. [00:29:43] Speaker A: And Booster Gold looking different again. Yes. Now he has a square face. [00:29:50] Speaker B: He's got a square face instead of the round face that he had in the last. [00:29:52] Speaker A: He had a square face in the last page. [00:29:54] Speaker B: It was. It was. It was. It was round. Going. Going square. [00:29:59] Speaker A: It keeps getting more rectangle as we go. Yeah. An. I feel like the Inker likes rectangles. [00:30:05] Speaker B: Rectangle Man. Rectangle Man. [00:30:10] Speaker A: We are headed to Mexico City. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Hey. [00:30:14] Speaker A: And SK says. Skee says. How very interesting. There's a superhero known as Hawk whose identity is Hank Call. And Booster Gold says Hawk. Isn't he the loony who is affiliated with the Teen Titans? Yeah, the poor guy is having a nervous breakdown because his brother died calling him looney. How insensitive. Booster. [00:30:41] Speaker B: Insensitive Booster. Geez. [00:30:43] Speaker A: You go buy a few companies, you become a billionaire and you become an [00:30:48] Speaker B: a typical rich guy bs. It's just how it goes, Dan. That's what happens to these people. They become out of touch. They don't know what's going on. They need to step outside and touch some grass. [00:31:04] Speaker A: Didn't he just kick the actress out of his house because she was such a terrible person? [00:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah, and then he became a terrible person. That's what happens. [00:31:12] Speaker A: You. [00:31:12] Speaker B: You get. You. You are near terrible people and you become terrible people. [00:31:18] Speaker A: Transference While Hawk's walking around the city with the doctor. The Dr. Baruch guy. [00:31:25] Speaker B: The Hawk and Doc. What a crazy idea for a story. The Hawk and Doc in Mexico. What are they going to do? Is this a buddy. A buddy comedy or an actual. [00:31:41] Speaker A: It's hilarious buddy comedy. In fact, it's that type of buddy comedy where the Doc goes around talking about these poor, impoverished people. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:48] Speaker A: And. And the rich Republican asshole next to him says, worse, Doc, this really stinks. To think that this place like this can even exist while they work to do nothing about it necessarily. [00:32:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:32:05] Speaker A: And we have some pictures of some impoverished folks. And Hawk says it will take years, but once. They're talking about fixing everything, but he. He says it will take years, but once we lower the bir. Are they running a Malthus critique now? If you weren't a debater, you may not know what a Malthus critique is. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Please expand so people can understand. [00:32:31] Speaker A: Well, see, in college debate, in high school debate, people would run this position by John Malthus. John Malthus, right. Yes. Who basically said the world would overpopulate itself into oblivion and burn up all its resources. And so they would say it was. Stand up and say. You would argue your case and you would say, ah, the topic might be, aha, the United States federal government should limit the President's power to enact foreign wars, for example. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Okay, sure. [00:33:01] Speaker A: And you stand up and you'd run your case and you're like, yes, Congress should pass a law to do that. And here's all the good reasons we do that. And then the other side would stand up and instead of arguing what you had to say. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker A: They would say, oh, well, anything you're doing doesn't matter. It won't solve anything anyway because the world is going to overpopulate it, use all its resources and exterminate itself. That's what we have going on here. That's basically what this doctor is telling Hawk. Yeah, War Hawk. Remember the War Hawk. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Warhawk. [00:33:33] Speaker A: That the whole world is going to overpopulate itself. See what happens in Mexico City when it's horrible overpopulation. And this is awful. And look at all these terrible conditions. Despite the fact that in the 80s at this time, Mexico has enough oil to revitalize their own economy. They have not, in fact used up all their resources. In fact, they have. They're producing enough corn in the southern regions of Mexico at the time, and they have enough oil that if it was used properly or managed properly by the government. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:09] Speaker A: They would be able to take care of pretty much everybody. I mean Mexico at this time had enough oil to have a sovereign wealth fund if they wanted to. Like the. Like the Scandinavian countries. [00:34:20] Speaker B: And it's kind of why we as a country that would be the United States and Canada entered into NAFTA in the 90s because they were doing well and it was to be multi. It would be to be across the way beneficial for everybody because we were all doing well at the same time. Pull each other up. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, we. Yeah, we decided to do this thing. It was to get rid of the tariffs. [00:34:48] Speaker B: Uhhuh. [00:34:50] Speaker A: So thing goods could run freely across the borders and then you could buy them at the price they are worst. And then the goods wouldn't say inflate [00:35:02] Speaker B: because you'd have production in one country and move it across the border to bring it to the other country to sell it there and then ship it to the other country in which it would be utilized and used and sold there too, and then brought back again as well. It's an amazing concept. [00:35:19] Speaker A: Seems like a good idea, but. [00:35:21] Speaker B: But you're not wrong. We didn't see any of those issues until the middle the. The early 2000s, mid 2000s, when they started to actually have problems with their. Their further economy or economic issues. [00:35:37] Speaker A: 90s too, but. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Well, yeah, the later 90s, definitely. [00:35:42] Speaker A: It was national monetary funds. Also a great help. Sarcasm. [00:35:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:47] Speaker A: Anyway, before we get too lost on this, this comic is massively oversimplifying. But that's what the Malthus idea did, right? It massively oversimplifies, you know, that. That maybe humans could choose to go down a different path or maybe we could more efficiently utilize our resources to not run them out. Or I. There's just a lot, a lot of things we could happen here, by the way. [00:36:10] Speaker B: People have free will. What are you talking about, Dan? I don't get it. [00:36:14] Speaker A: We flip the page and it says, will Robin died tonight. The first of the new adventures of Batman. [00:36:19] Speaker B: He might, if you make enough phone calls. [00:36:22] Speaker A: By the team of Max Allen Collins, Chris Warner and Mike DeCarlo. The Batman team you will always remember. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Robin Killers. [00:36:32] Speaker A: And this wasn't Robin. No. Damn. Damatis killed Ramen. [00:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah. They were building up to the Robin death. [00:36:41] Speaker A: Kill Jason Todd who should die. [00:36:44] Speaker B: No. Jason Todd was so cool. I love that guy. [00:36:48] Speaker A: I'm gonna bring all these kids together and save the legends. [00:36:52] Speaker B: A. If it wasn't for. If it wasn't for a voice like that, then you wouldn't have kids like we have today. Huh? Huh? Huh? You didn't contest it. You didn't think so. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Well, Hawk and Hawk and Doc. Hawk and Doc continue on their journey and continue to learn about things. Right. Doc is continuing on his critique. And I've been saying, hawk, in the 13th and 14th centuries, the bubonic plague swept through European country. The European continent that could not feed itself, and it took 20 million people with it. And then Hawk says, but nature can't do that anymore. We've taken that power away from her with our life support technology. And then the Doc says, yes, and so man must shoulder the responsibility for correction, correcting the situation. And today, Hawk, we will assume that responsibility. These people are wackadoodle. [00:37:54] Speaker B: They're very wild. [00:37:56] Speaker A: What is this? This is Thanos. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of. Sort of. Yeah. Gonna take away half the population to, to be able to minimize and, and, and, and restart the reset button. [00:38:10] Speaker A: And, and the doc says 40 years from now, when the world is no longer overcrowded, starving, cesspool of humanity, we will be remembered as heroes. [00:38:20] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:38:26] Speaker A: Okay, sure. Yeah. This sounds great. These guys are. These, these guys are great. Hawk, the hero. We love this. Yeah, these are stand up guys. [00:38:35] Speaker B: Hero Hawk. Yes, we love him. [00:38:39] Speaker A: He's apparently amenable to this because his brother died and is not there to talk complete sense to him. [00:38:44] Speaker B: Well, when he's not in the costume, he's a logical guy. When he puts on the costume, he becomes slightly illogical. [00:38:51] Speaker A: Dan, it is interesting the Hawk shows up here because pretty soon we're going to have a Hawk series. Hawk and Dove series that Barbara Randall Kiesel is highly involved in. [00:39:03] Speaker B: Oh, well, I mean, got to reboot it somehow, right? Yeah. [00:39:11] Speaker A: Booster shows up in Mexico. [00:39:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:16] Speaker A: And he says Mexico is quite different. In 2462. He says it will become a beautiful Metropolis, thus negating Dr. Bar's whole idea unless Dr. Barish is successful. And then it all worked, and that's why it became a beautiful metropolis. And. [00:39:31] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Yeah, well, that would make sense. You get rid of everything and you start fresh. And it's just like, oh, wow, what a booster. What, what's going on, dude? [00:39:44] Speaker A: Well, we flipped the page and Mr. Gold lets somebody in Mexico. The police, I believe. [00:39:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Now, I would say if I were taking anatomy lessons from this drawing, you would learn that the nose is on the. The right side, left side of the face. Yeah. And then the mouth is in the middle. And then the cheeks. There's not really cheeks. [00:40:12] Speaker B: There's like, oh, God. This is a half a cherry. Yeah, it's, it's like, they did a very bad. Like, I'm gonna draw a. A. A person, but it's gonna be a Mr. Potato Head person. [00:40:29] Speaker A: I mean, this is the level of art. They would have me stop reading a book. [00:40:33] Speaker B: It's pretty bad. [00:40:35] Speaker A: I mean, I like books for words, and I shouldn't say stop. I read all of the Keith Giffen Legion books, even when the art went cray cray sideway. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:44] Speaker A: By. This is [00:40:48] Speaker B: when you got jacking, like, three different people on the next page. It's. [00:40:52] Speaker A: And. And remember how I was talking about not depicting Asian characters racistly? [00:40:57] Speaker B: Uhhuh. Yeah. [00:41:00] Speaker A: And then we have Jack. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah, well, and he looks different in every freaking panel. And he looks like a different Asian, though. [00:41:08] Speaker A: I might not brain blame the art for that. I might blame the coloring for that. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's. He's very tan [00:41:20] Speaker A: with a hint of yellow. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:41:25] Speaker A: It's really. [00:41:25] Speaker B: He gets yellow. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Top of page 11, Jack's face. [00:41:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jack's face looks like somebody, like, touched him with a. Like, with a. Like a. Of an angel and smooshed it a little bit. [00:41:44] Speaker A: And then middle of page 11, Jack's face. [00:41:47] Speaker B: It's the best Jack's face on the whole page. [00:41:51] Speaker A: And then bottom worst. [00:41:53] Speaker B: Like that worst jealous face. [00:41:55] Speaker A: What the hell? [00:41:56] Speaker B: What the hell is that one? That one looks like. If you're like, all right, draw Jack like he's trying to be Bruce Lee, but he's not Bruce Lee and he's gonna punch a fortune cookie with his hand. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Well, Booster's getting mad at the police commissioner, saying he's not gonna do anything. He gets in to see the police commissioner. The police commissioner has suddenly lost his mustache completely. Yeah, he looks like a completely different person. He now has curly hair and a large nose. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not even the same guy. [00:42:29] Speaker A: It's an all dialogue heavy. And we're going to go to Skeets for letting. Telling us a story. So he's going to say Jack has transmitted the bacteria's genetic breakdown. So that's the bacteria that Dr. Barich is going to use to reduce the population down. All right. Skeets is like, it will kill most humans instantly, and only those in a few areas will be spared. Its touch will survive. So Booster at The bottom page 11, who is now becoming a completely different character. [00:43:00] Speaker B: He looks like Jacko from. Remember Jacko from the. The. The late 80s, early 90s. The Australian guy. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Like, what is going on? Like, what is happening in this art? [00:43:13] Speaker B: This art is very Very, very wild. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Now we turn the page, and we get Dirk the sex symbol. [00:43:22] Speaker B: What's up, Everybody? I've lost £20, and I look like Billy Ray Cyrus coming over. And I want to give you a slice of hot pizza. And I'm not talking pizza from the box. Talking pizza from my oven. And I didn't bring an oven. That's right. I mean, my pants. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Just. What is tricky is that Trixie. [00:43:42] Speaker B: It's supposed to be Trixie, and she doesn't look like Trixie. This art is terrible. I don't. This is. The whole book is just. I'm sorry. We went there. We are not monetized anymore, everybody. We went halfway through the, through the whole show, and you were the first [00:43:59] Speaker A: one to swear because. [00:44:01] Speaker B: Because this book has gotten me pissed off. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Because you're getting a softer, gentler side of Dan. [00:44:06] Speaker B: Get a softer, generaler side of Dan, who has a broken foot and a Greg who just can't handle this. This ridiculous art. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Honestly, I'm just trying to be softer because I don't want to be kidnapped by the squacho man. [00:44:20] Speaker B: Watch a man. I, I. If he kidnapped you, I have a [00:44:27] Speaker A: feeling also, after you did that, Danhausen would have demonetized you as well. [00:44:33] Speaker B: What? [00:44:35] Speaker A: You know he doesn't swear. [00:44:36] Speaker B: Oh, well, you know that's true. I cursed. Cursed. I cursed. So then I got cursed. [00:44:47] Speaker A: I'm letting everybody know if you're not on. If you're not on video for this one, I'm sorry. [00:44:54] Speaker B: So we just go back and re. Rewatch the whole episode. [00:44:59] Speaker A: We flipped the page, and we're on page 13 now. And quite possibly the most racist depiction shows up. Gee, if that person even has a face. [00:45:10] Speaker B: The. Whoever that is in the red. [00:45:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:14] Speaker B: Or, or, or are you talking about Jack? Every version. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Oh, I was talking about the person in the ray. I mean, Jack has seven different. Like Jack had. There's three Jacks on this page, and there are seven different faces for Jack. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Well, what's crazy is, I mean, I don't even think Chun Li was a character at the time. But how did they get Jack to look like Chun Liquid? [00:45:38] Speaker A: This is beyond. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Well, anyway, they're still tracking down. They're using. Team Booster is still tracking down. [00:45:45] Speaker B: He's talking into. Oh, they're talking into their wrists. That's why he's. Okay. I keep wondering, why is he at. Why is he making an anger fist and, like, shaking his hand? In every panel, he's got a risk communicator. Everybody. I am a dum dummy. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Well, we flip the page and of course we know because Hawk can't fly. [00:46:05] Speaker B: He can't fly. [00:46:06] Speaker A: Dove flew. Right. Hawk. Hawk couldn't fly. But Dove could. Right? [00:46:10] Speaker B: Hawk just has giant big paper winks. [00:46:14] Speaker A: Well, Hawk says all set here, doc, but I can't help wondering if this is really going to work. Too bad there isn't some way to test this bacteria of yours. Seems like a good idea. You should just test it on the human population of Mexico. [00:46:29] Speaker B: Yeah, why don't we just release coronavirus on everybody right now? And he says, is that what they're doing? [00:46:36] Speaker A: You are. Yes. Although you are releasing your bacteria today, it will take years for it to settle in and affect the population. No one shall suffer from it directly. And years from now, after infiltrating the gene pool and reducing the population to the manageable level nature dictates. So the bacteria apparently just makes people infertile. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Okay. [00:47:03] Speaker A: That's not a human rights violation. [00:47:05] Speaker B: No, not at all. No. I've. It's never. Never been done. [00:47:12] Speaker A: They have heard of the. They have. They've heard the Tuskegee air. [00:47:16] Speaker B: I was just gonna say it's not for people who are listening. That might not be. That be. Might not be caught up on this. It's not something that just happened in other countries, but. [00:47:25] Speaker A: No, no. [00:47:26] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a great. United States of America has done it to their own people here at home and abroad. [00:47:33] Speaker A: Oh, yes. I want to be clear. I am not attacking Planned Parenthood here. If you look at the founder of Planned Parenthood's writing. [00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Not so great. [00:47:48] Speaker B: Vampire gives. Does so great great services for those who. Who need it. But yes, it just. [00:47:54] Speaker A: Well, it just show. It just shows that the organization can evolve away from its foundations. [00:47:59] Speaker B: It's a foundation. Yes, yes. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Founding, not foundations, but yeah. Founder. [00:48:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Some that can be said for many eugenics and. And how the poor shouldn't be able to populate the earth. And. [00:48:12] Speaker B: And that can be said for many basics. [00:48:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it's basically the same thesis as idiocracy. [00:48:18] Speaker B: What are you saying that movie's based on factualities? Because, I mean, it's true. It's true. The. The plants do love the electro. The. The. What is it that they love? The lights. [00:48:35] Speaker A: Ronin Brown Doe. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Wait, you drink water? You drink from the toilet. [00:48:43] Speaker A: You want to. Water. You want to put water from the toilet. [00:48:47] Speaker B: From the toilet. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Plants. Plants. Well, anyway, [00:48:56] Speaker B: Watch it again. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Electro. Electrolytes. Here, I'll get it right. Finally. [00:48:59] Speaker B: That's what they crave. [00:49:01] Speaker A: It's what plants crave. There you go. [00:49:03] Speaker B: Oh, man. And to think that movie not only did it. Did it kind of semi predict certain things, but it also gave us crocs. [00:49:13] Speaker A: The fact that it gave us crocs and the fact that Hardee thought it would be a good idea to have their name in the movie. [00:49:20] Speaker B: I mean, Hardy Starbucks costume. I, you know, I live at it. I mean, you. You have. I mean, we've both lived on the. The other side of the country, so we understand the deliciousness of Hardee's, but we also understand the. [00:49:40] Speaker A: Right around the corner. You got. It wasn't Hardy. That's not true. It was Carl Jr. I actually messed it up. Hardee's and Carl's Jr. Are the same. [00:49:48] Speaker B: They're the. I know they're the same, but they're different. [00:49:51] Speaker A: And it's Carl's junior In the movie. I just messed that up. I had a brain malfunction there. Yeah, it's Carl's Jr. [00:49:56] Speaker B: In the movie, but, I mean, their menu's slightly different. [00:50:00] Speaker A: No, it's the same restaurant. [00:50:01] Speaker B: It's not the same. Party's dog. Now, you get a Hardy dog. You get a Hardy's dog at Carl's Jr. I don't think so. [00:50:10] Speaker A: Now, Crystal and White Castle. Them different? [00:50:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, very different. [00:50:16] Speaker A: Very, very different. As in, they will both give you the runs immediately. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they're gonna give you. They're gonna. They're gonna give you the runs. But, I mean, I bet you I could eat like. Well, no, not now with my, My, My newfound issues. But, like, I mean, yeah, back in the day. Back in the day, I would have powered down, like 10 White Castle burgers without even. [00:50:40] Speaker A: They spent that whole. They spent that whole movie going to White Castle because. So they could just spend a day in the bathroom upon returning. Like, that doesn't seem like the best idea. [00:50:48] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it is bad. I mean, bad news. Bears all day long. Crystal couldn't do that, too, though. Oh, well. [00:50:57] Speaker A: Hawk starts flying and Cheshire dumps on [00:51:04] Speaker B: top of him, jumps on his back like, hey, buddy. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Yeah. You'll notice, while I believe that's supposed to be a hawk symbol on his glider, we once again have a Timberwolf symbol show up. [00:51:19] Speaker B: Timberwolf. Timberwolf. [00:51:21] Speaker A: I had no idea Timberwolf was gonna be in this book. [00:51:24] Speaker B: It's so much Timberwolf. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Well, Hawk gets jammed up in his own glider. Cheshire scratches him. [00:51:33] Speaker B: Cheshire scratches the hawk. Because she wants that. [00:51:37] Speaker A: That's bad. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's bad news. [00:51:42] Speaker A: And she's like, [00:51:44] Speaker B: oh, she. [00:51:44] Speaker A: Yeah, she absolutely did. She says, and ah, my thanks, Hawk. And you'll not retrieve it either, because she takes the bacteria from him. [00:51:52] Speaker B: You know what's really bad is on the bottom of says wait on the bottom. [00:51:56] Speaker A: Too busy flying that glider. Wait, I gotta finish her. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Too busy flying that glider. You ask if she was. You asked. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. [00:52:04] Speaker A: Far too busy to protect yourself from my deadly poison. Die, Titan, die. Her extremely good dialogue here. [00:52:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I. So when I read, I. I had to read this again the second time because. [00:52:17] Speaker A: And [00:52:19] Speaker B: I did not slash. I did not read the slash on the bottom of F15 as slash. I read it as salsa. And I thought they were d. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Uh, I would also just say that the slash is the word. Slash is the best part of the art on. [00:52:39] Speaker B: It also looks like salsa. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Why are they flying in a yellow sky too? Like, what is going on? [00:52:47] Speaker B: Well, I mean, if the sky is [00:52:49] Speaker A: that color, we're in real trouble. [00:52:52] Speaker B: What you don't know, Dan, is the. The ionosphere isn't real. It is, actually. It's been a bunch of TV monitors holding up this idea of a sky. What happened while they were in midair flight fight was that it was captured by the artist that the. Huh? What? [00:53:28] Speaker A: Formerly known as Prince. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Formerly known as Prince. That the ionosphere was actually yellow at the time and not blue because somebody was changing the channel. [00:53:41] Speaker A: Okay, well, we flip to page 16. [00:53:45] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. And the channel has not changed yet. [00:53:47] Speaker A: Yes. Lock is falling out of the sky. The Ruskies. Because the Ruskies now have the formula. He says, okay, Cheshire is happy. She says, farewell, Titan. I'm giving the. And she talks in Russian and. And they are. The Russians are saying, shushire, we're very pleased with you. And then look at. [00:54:06] Speaker B: Look at this. We don't even just get Booster butt, but we get Cheshire butt too. Because on that. On that third panel of page 16, we. [00:54:17] Speaker A: We get much better Booster butt in the bottom panel at page 16. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get the beefcake. But I mean, well. [00:54:25] Speaker A: And a Hawk is doing his best. Red Fox. I'm coming, Don. [00:54:30] Speaker B: And die. I'll cover it. [00:54:34] Speaker A: God, it's another one. Oh, no. [00:54:36] Speaker B: Oh, no. It's happening. The real one. [00:54:41] Speaker A: And that's just like Red Fox on the show. Booster Gold grabs Hawk and flies him away. He lets him know his name, and he. And Hawk's like, well, you should have let me drop gold. Something I can't read the writing there. Probably for the best. [00:55:01] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Poisoned. And I'm sure I'm gone. Or anyway. Yeah, seeing a lord of chaos can't just, well, survive poison. Anyway, we flipped a page. Annual 1987. Batman Annual Number 112 Tales of Love and Terror. Mortal Clay by Alan Moore and George Freeman and Lovebird by Max Alan Collins and Norm Breifogel. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Are you telling me that the Batman is in love with The Penguin and Dr. Freeze at the same time? [00:55:30] Speaker A: I believe I'm saying he's in love with the Penguin and Clayface at the same time. [00:55:34] Speaker B: Oh, Clayface. I'm sorry. I thought that was Dr. Freeze holding his wife. Sorry. [00:55:40] Speaker A: Maybe it is. It could be, could be. [00:55:44] Speaker B: It could be clay for this Clayflate. [00:55:47] Speaker A: It could be. It could be Clay Face can be anyone. You imagine it. Flip that around. Clayface can be anybody. [00:55:53] Speaker B: That's true. [00:55:55] Speaker A: Well, we. Maybe it was about Mr. Freeze. That sounds more like an Alan Moore story than a story about Clayface. [00:56:04] Speaker B: Ah, yeah. [00:56:05] Speaker A: I have not read that comic, so I don't know. [00:56:07] Speaker B: We'll have to find out. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Or not. Okay, so we go to. We've got Booster, we've got Hawk. They're flying and stuff. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:20] Speaker A: He drops Hawk, puts him down. And now Booster's got to go after this bacteria. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:56:29] Speaker A: And the doc's up there on his big rock saying, I don't know what I'm going to do. This is what I wanted at all. No fighting. I thought I would create a weapon of mass destruction that violates people's human rights and nothing would go wrong. [00:56:45] Speaker B: Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, exactly. [00:56:47] Speaker A: That. [00:56:48] Speaker B: That's basic Doc on. Wait, the doc on his dock on a rock. Dock on a rock without his hawk. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Can't have a dock on a rock without a hawk. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Oh, I balk at all that talk. [00:57:03] Speaker A: Wouldn't want to mock. [00:57:04] Speaker B: Wouldn't want to mock. And that's why Booster Gold has to shoot a helicopter out of the sky. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Yes, that. That's a good transition. And, yeah, Cheshire and the Russians are now going down. They've lost rotor control. They're doomed. And Booster's like, we can't have people crashing. So he grabs Cheshire. I don't know that you can carry people that way. He apparently is carrying her by her bazoombas. [00:57:32] Speaker B: He is. He's like, ah, they grab you. [00:57:37] Speaker A: My. I'm sure how you hold somebody up that way. I believe. I believe with that angle, she would just fall right down. Unless. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:44] Speaker A: The only way you would be. The only way you would be held up is if. [00:57:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Dan. Booster is strong and he's like. And, and he's like, this is my kind of woman. I will make sure she won't die. [00:58:00] Speaker A: Well, Skeets is, yeah. Letting Booster know that the bacteria is still on the helicopter, which seems bad because the helicopter explodes and the bacteria is going to go everywhere. [00:58:07] Speaker B: Oh man, [00:58:10] Speaker A: they're like, we may have started a disaster. This event. Twisting like a beast in pain, the burning Hulk spirals violently to the sun. Baked earth in Dr. Peter Baritch feels the icy grip of terror looking into its frigid fingers around his body, for he knows what is to come. [00:58:32] Speaker B: The best panel in the whole entire book, I hate to say it, is this one right here. Looking at the dock on his rock without a hawk. [00:58:42] Speaker A: And it's, it's annoying because the story is actually really good. We've been kind of pitching at the book, but his pulse quickens and his heart races erratically and his mind runs amuck, spinning like an out of control ride. His glorious plan, born of flawed logic, seems now to dance and laugh at his folly. Out of the fire, a cloud of yellow death emerges. Its only purpose to purify the human race and to do away with those who make contributions to society and make the world a better place to live. And the doctor dies from his cloud of bacteria. Now of course, we've got to get this bacteria captured. We found out the mouth is critique is always as shitty as it was when we were doing college and high school debate. [00:59:27] Speaker B: Very true. [00:59:28] Speaker A: And for the debaters out there, if any of you are listening to this, you know exactly what we're talking about. I have no idea. That's fine. Hawk is flawed. And here we go. And then Hawk's like, that liar conned me, [00:59:47] Speaker B: con man. I'm gonna kill him. Oh, he's already dead. [00:59:51] Speaker A: And he's like, how could I be so freaking dumb? I mean, it seems self evident, Hawk, when we read the original books with you and him, you were dumb and you're dumb now. [01:00:00] Speaker B: You've been dumb the whole time, dude, I'm sorry, buddy, but to just want. Yeah, we, we, we're letting you down easy on this. You don't. [01:00:08] Speaker A: Well, we're not actually, because Booster steps in to say, yeah, you misguided idiot. How could you possibly have gotten involved in this insane scheme? So we are not letting him down. We, yeah, we're not indeed letting him down early. We, we are easy. We are in fact destroying the rest of any self confidence Hawk might have possibly Garnered from deciding to do the right thing, Booster Gold creates a giant force field. Contains all of the stuff by rewiring his costume. That's a new thing. I didn't know he knew how to do that. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Tells him how to deal. [01:00:40] Speaker A: Skeets tells him how to do it. That's true. Yeah. Sk tells him. [01:00:43] Speaker B: And Booster's like, all right, Coach, I'll do it. [01:00:46] Speaker A: And then he destroys all the bacteria. And now Cheshire is pissed. He's like, of course. Booster's like, all right. At least it's not growing any longer. By the way, Cheshire, do you carry an antidote to your own poison? He says, of course not. Why would I ever do that? Because he wants her to give it to Hawk. We flip the page. We get an advertisement for Amazing Man. [01:01:11] Speaker B: That's amazing, man. [01:01:13] Speaker A: Amazing, amazing, Amazing. [01:01:15] Speaker B: That's amazing Man. [01:01:17] Speaker A: We also get a classic advertisement in here, which we haven't seen any of these comics in the entire run. You could become a muscle man. Join today. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Oh, dude, I want to be a muscle man. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Get muscle. In seven days using dynamic tension. [01:01:30] Speaker B: Seven days of muscle. [01:01:32] Speaker A: You could reach Howard D. Rogan's sky in Rosedale, Queens, New York. One to buy 25, 000 comic books. [01:01:45] Speaker B: What? Or have that person have you come to. Wait, do you have to go to their. Their place in New York to pick them up? This. Is this a. A scam in which they are luring you to get the comics? Oh, man. How many people fell for this scam? And they showed up. [01:02:04] Speaker A: We got a lot of comics. We've got a private collection. We've got comics grab bags. Disgusting. Even doing that trick back then. Golden State comics. [01:02:13] Speaker B: You know what comics you know we're doing here at the retro Emporium? We got grab bags of comics just for you. We're calmed. The Dan Grab bag comics you are not. [01:02:26] Speaker A: You will take my name off that immediately. [01:02:28] Speaker B: It's not just your name. It's a lot of people named Dan. Yeah, I didn't call say your last name. I just said Dan. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Wow. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Loophole. You're like, I hate you. [01:02:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Squash your man. Approved. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Well, I. I did learn something today. [01:02:52] Speaker B: What'd you learn? [01:02:53] Speaker A: Soul. Soul said that Squato man is his mortal enemy. [01:02:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I mean, they have a long history. They go back when. [01:03:06] Speaker A: And then that's s. Saul of. Of. [01:03:10] Speaker B: Of. [01:03:10] Speaker A: Of. Of. Of another podcast that Greg is on that he can't even spit the name out. [01:03:20] Speaker B: Nurse from the Crypt. [01:03:22] Speaker A: There we go. [01:03:23] Speaker B: I almost said funny book forensics and I was like, that's the podcast we're doing. [01:03:29] Speaker A: Well, you could have got two free months of comics here if you ordered your comics for the year. [01:03:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:03:37] Speaker A: Same comics we talked about in the last episode. So I'm not gonna do that again. We are Boosters. Like, you're lying. I'm betting you carry at least a small personal amount of. Yeah, let's talk about the poison again. [01:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I bet you do. I'm gonna throw you. [01:03:51] Speaker A: He's like, you better. You. You better heal Hawk, or I'm gonna throw you into the giant bacteria ball and you will die. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good way to get somebody to do what you want. Put her in their life. [01:04:04] Speaker A: She does. She does give Hawk the antidote. So he's healed. Hawk is now all better. Booster saved the day. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:17] Speaker A: The Russians are mad. [01:04:18] Speaker B: Oh, they are angry. [01:04:22] Speaker A: And he's. They're insulting capitalism. [01:04:26] Speaker B: Yes. [01:04:28] Speaker A: Booster destroys everything. He punches out the Russian, and everybody goes on to live happily ever after with the yellow skies. O goes away. [01:04:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. He leaves. [01:04:42] Speaker A: He leaves Hawk in Cheshire and the Russian guy there, and he's, like, in the middle of civilization, and he said, how do I get back? And Booster says, do what any worm does. Lose or crawl. [01:04:54] Speaker B: He does. [01:04:57] Speaker A: Booster sounding very Guy Gardner in this issue. [01:04:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he, like, totally does, like, the. [01:05:02] Speaker A: The. [01:05:03] Speaker B: The. The Gen X thing. And he's like. And he, like, crosses his hands across his crotch. He's like. And then flies away. And Skis is like, yeah, Suck it. You're like, no, no. Sell, man. Wow. [01:05:22] Speaker A: I mean, no, I was distracted. I'm sorry. I. I did think it was. I was actually thinking about it. I liked it. Yeah, I know. Sold it. It's because I was looking to see what letter we wanted to read from. [01:05:32] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:05:33] Speaker A: The gold exchange. [01:05:34] Speaker B: I, I. You picked the letter. But I have some insight on some of these letters, as usually you do. But I have done some research. [01:05:44] Speaker A: Oh, I think. Well, I was going to pick the letter from David Gilham of rural route number four, box 98 in Coffeyville, Kansas. Okay. 67337. [01:05:58] Speaker B: Okay. [01:05:59] Speaker A: He says Booster Gold number 13 was boosterification. I have always wanted to say that both the art and the storyline really captured my attention. I kind of like the interchange between Booster and his nurse. [01:06:12] Speaker B: What? Oh, that one. That one issue. And when he brings. [01:06:18] Speaker A: That's where. That's where they're going. They're getting ready to go to the future. They're going to find. [01:06:21] Speaker B: Yes, yes. And then comes back to the future [01:06:23] Speaker A: and brings the food they're going to find. Rip Hunter. Yeah. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Yes. [01:06:26] Speaker A: I feel that you should tone down Booster's ego a little bit. And one way to do it is allow him to take heed of the nurse's speech and the fact that this. That his mother died as a result of his actions. Oh. Now onto Trixie. I agree totally with Tim Tuckett's letter that Booster and Trixie should develop a romance. But don't rush it. Let it happen gradually and don't give up. Don't give them a date. Then interrupt it in a Call of Duty. Fleas. Oh, Trixie has a sidekick. That sounds like a way to add a twist to your book. But again, on this issue, let her grow into the role and don't rush it. If you can think of a way to give Booster some permanent powers, please do so. Then you won't have to go back to the future of your 13 issues. Dan, your work on this book has been excellent. Keep up the good work. Dan responds. By now, you should realize that Trixie has no intention of becoming Booster Sidekick. David. But that doesn't necessarily mean that we won't see Gold Star in uniform in action again. And who will Goldstar be? [01:07:26] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know. [01:07:28] Speaker A: You do know. I. I do know because you told me what in the past. [01:07:33] Speaker B: I mean, Dennis's sister. [01:07:35] Speaker A: Spoiler. What? You're spoiling the book. Okay, well, you had some. You had some insight on a letter. [01:07:42] Speaker B: Okay, so. So we read. We read a letter a couple of issues back. We read. We talk about a lot of letters that are in the Gold Exchange, and, And that. [01:07:50] Speaker A: That. [01:07:51] Speaker B: That FL. Fit into a lot of. [01:07:52] Speaker A: There's no. There's no Pouncy in here. [01:07:54] Speaker B: Or there's no Pouncy. There's no TM Maple. But there is a familiar name in this letter column in the Gold Exchange. Do you see the familiar name? [01:08:06] Speaker A: I'm looking right now. [01:08:08] Speaker B: This is like a word hunt, everybody. Dan is looking for a name. Will he find it? [01:08:14] Speaker A: Find. I see Elvis. [01:08:16] Speaker B: That's not the name. Elvis is familiar. But it's a letter that you read a few episodes back. [01:08:25] Speaker A: I see Dan Jurgens. [01:08:27] Speaker B: It's not Dan Jurgens. Dan did not write a letter to himself. [01:08:31] Speaker A: Which. Which letter? Did I forget that? I read a few. [01:08:35] Speaker B: You read a letter from a Jamie S. Rich, okay, in the letters column. And we had an exchange back and forth about, hi, there he is. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Jamie s. Rich from 5613 West Avenue M4 Quartz Hill, California. And you say five three, six and, [01:08:53] Speaker B: and we're going back and forth about, you know, this is the Jamie. So I did some research because the name, the name popped in my in. In the Greg mind matter here and, and it indeed was who I thought it was but didn't want to say it during our, our podcast before until I knew. But this is the early writings of a Jamie S. Rich who would become the editor of one press and move on to other things such as other other. He'd become the editor of other other comic book companies and other comics as well. But he is also a writer and has written quite a few books under his. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Well, he is. He is he. He's not underselling the hyperbole here. He says in this letter. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Yes, he said. [01:09:47] Speaker A: I'd like first to relate my views of Trixie as if you couldn't guess. Keep her in the suit. She has the makings of the great heroine. Greatest heroine since Phantom Lady. Besides, she looks gorgeous in it. Also she and Booster belong together. His days as a playboy are over as far as I'm concerned. And he's an editor, right? [01:10:10] Speaker B: Yes. So he becomes an editor. This is, this is early Jamie. Like junior high, high school probably junior high Jamie. These are his, his early writings. He even talks about it and on some podcast and talks about it in some blogs and stuff like that about his, his writing start, his beginnings of writings. [01:10:32] Speaker A: Well he did like RIP. He did mention Rip Hunter's time machine being destroyed. Yeah. [01:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah. So talking about his experience writing the Gold Exchange and these things and oddly enough I, we, we did cross paths in my, my early times at the, at the only press offices when he was, when he was there and I was, I was coming in with junior Braves. So it's interesting. [01:10:59] Speaker A: So [01:11:01] Speaker B: yeah, it's fun fact. [01:11:03] Speaker A: Well Jamie, when you, when Jamie, when you get around to listening to this podcast which I'm sure you listen to [01:11:08] Speaker B: every week, he listens to all the podcasts all the time and he's got a little finder on his thing that says anytime his name is popped up, he listens to the thing. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Greg, found you. [01:11:21] Speaker B: Yes, I found you. I was, I actually almost, I almost reached out and, and stuff but then I didn't want to be like do you remember me from our like 5 minute conversation one time back in 2011 or 2010 and yada yada. Anyways, I'm doing this podcast now with my, my friend from. Yeah, we found you read your letter in the Booster call it the Gold Exchange and just was like hey, yeah, oddly enough I read a lot of his books when I was. Some of the books that he had written and edited when I was going through my process of writing stuff, because he was pointed out as somebody I should take note of, [01:12:12] Speaker A: not by him, [01:12:13] Speaker B: but by somebody else. [01:12:16] Speaker A: Good news in here. There is one more letter we should highlight. [01:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that. [01:12:20] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, that whole you missed the point meme. [01:12:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:12:25] Speaker A: Gary, Helen. Gary, Helen says the tie in with Legends saga was nice, but she should have Legends banner on the COVID No, no, they stayed as far away from Legends as possible. They were like, let's put them all away. No. Come back three months later. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I would say assessment of this book, fun story, terrible art. [01:12:53] Speaker B: Fun story, terrible art. I mean, we had a fun time talking about the terrible art. If you're. If you decide to go back and read this yourself, you will see it firsthand. I say should just because we had to, but if you don't want to and you want to take our word for it, go ahead. A lot of things. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Well, next issue. Next issue, we go Back to Mike DeCarlo on inks. [01:13:22] Speaker B: Oh, man. Thank you, Jesus. [01:13:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And then in the con, in the continued inconsistent art teams, it's. They have Alve Inc. The next issue after that. [01:13:39] Speaker B: Okay, well, I mean, hey, at least it's. [01:13:42] Speaker A: And then they have Arnie Starr Inc. The next issue after that. [01:13:44] Speaker B: Oh, consistency. We go, Arnie Starr. Somebody else. [01:13:47] Speaker A: And then they have Ty Templeton ink the next issue after that. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Oh, Ty Templeton. [01:13:53] Speaker A: And so you're gonna get. If you. If you like. If you enjoy the more cartoony style. [01:14:01] Speaker B: I was just gonna say a softer style of inking. [01:14:07] Speaker A: And then Ty Templed in. [01:14:09] Speaker B: What's. What's funny is. Before you even said that, I was like, yeah, he. He inks a very soft style, a very, very smooth, like, fun lines. That's the best way to say it. [01:14:20] Speaker A: And you get it. And the. The interesting thing is Bruce Patterson's still inking a bunch of the covers. [01:14:26] Speaker B: Okay, well, so. So they kept. They kept saying, somebody that's keeping the covers looking solid. It's the bait and switch. Oh, look at this book. I need this book. And then you get it, and you're like, oh, the interior is what it is. [01:14:40] Speaker A: Well, here's. Here's a crazy one for you. Next issue, you get Jerry Ordway inking the COVID and Mike DeCarlo on interiors. [01:14:50] Speaker B: So that's. That's. That's good, though. [01:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's, like, bizarre. [01:15:01] Speaker B: It's Bizarre. But good. Like, I would just buy that book just to have it. [01:15:10] Speaker A: Tell me you would cover it next week. [01:15:13] Speaker B: I know, but tell me you wouldn't have that in your collection just because it's a cool, cool combo. [01:15:19] Speaker A: I do have it. [01:15:21] Speaker B: See, people get it because Dan has it. Booster. [01:15:24] Speaker A: I do have all the quarter books. I do have all the quarter books at the end of the Booster Gold run. Yes. [01:15:31] Speaker B: He's got him. [01:15:32] Speaker A: All right, well, we should wrap this thing up. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Wrap it up like a. Ankle that's hurt. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's going to get wrapped up soon. Maybe some pizza. All sorts of things happening there. I would just like to say, number one, we've. We've already mentioned it, but if you are looking for the squacho man. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:55] Speaker A: And you want to support his right to work. [01:15:58] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:15:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You should immediately go to. First off, I believe you should go to the retro emporium in Kent, Washington. Okay. And you should try to relive your childhood by looking around for great things that you could buy. [01:16:14] Speaker B: True. True. [01:16:16] Speaker A: And during that process. Yeah. You should find Greg, approach him and say. Approach him and say, free the squattro man. [01:16:27] Speaker B: Now, you know what's funny, though, is listening to Kyle came up and said, hey, what are you guys talking about next week? And I was like, I wish I could tell you, because, honestly, I don't know if we're recording an episode. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Well, listener Kyle, you now know what's going on. You got to look. [01:16:47] Speaker B: You got to look for the squatto man. [01:16:49] Speaker A: Also, if you are running into a problem like the squacho man. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:56] Speaker A: And you need it solved. [01:16:58] Speaker B: Uhhuh. Call the 18. [01:17:00] Speaker A: You. [01:17:01] Speaker B: You. [01:17:01] Speaker A: You just don't go to any lawyer. You don't go to Murdoch. [01:17:04] Speaker B: No, you don't go to Murdoch. [01:17:06] Speaker A: That's a terrible idea. [01:17:06] Speaker B: No, that's bad news. [01:17:08] Speaker A: You don't go to Murdoch. That. That's a. That will just mess you up. You know what you do do, though? [01:17:14] Speaker B: What do you do do? What do you do? [01:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah. You what? What do you do? [01:17:20] Speaker B: What do you do if you're in trouble? You do do what? [01:17:25] Speaker A: What do you do? [01:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah, what do you do? [01:17:26] Speaker A: You contact Paul Boudreaux, Jiu jitsu lawyer. Paul. [01:17:31] Speaker B: Oh, bye. [01:17:32] Speaker A: At 253-6564-475. Or you could just stop by certified jiu jitsu certificate, Certified martial arts on the corner of 27th and Jackson in University Place. I mean, 27th and Bridgeport. Because that road Nate changes names, and so it's not confusing at all. [01:17:53] Speaker B: Right. [01:17:55] Speaker A: But if you were getting off at Highway 16, you get off of the Jackson exit, and it would become Bridgeport by the time it got to 27. [01:18:00] Speaker B: It's true. It's true. [01:18:02] Speaker A: Just turn left and you keep going. And then you would get to. To certified. And we could train with Paul. [01:18:09] Speaker B: Train with him, tell him your problems and then win at life. [01:18:16] Speaker A: Yes. All around. Exactly. That's exactly. And so if you need somebody to sue the hawk. Yeah. Trying to exterminate the Earth with a biochemical bacteria solution. [01:18:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:31] Speaker A: Just call Paul. [01:18:32] Speaker B: Call Paul. [01:18:34] Speaker A: And then finally, of course, there's a Kickstarter that will be coming out very soon. We'll have the link. Yeah. For you. [01:18:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:18:44] Speaker A: Yep, Yep. It's called the bioterror of Alex Spreading Myself across the Universe. No, A cyborg story. [01:18:56] Speaker B: It's. It's not that, but there's going to be a link in the. In the. In the thing. For the thing. You should go. [01:19:03] Speaker A: Travis told me that was the title. [01:19:05] Speaker B: I don't think that's the title, Dan. [01:19:08] Speaker A: I think it is. [01:19:10] Speaker B: You saw the art. [01:19:11] Speaker A: Back to that last issue we were in. [01:19:12] Speaker B: You saw the art. You know, it's good. [01:19:15] Speaker A: Oh, you don't think it's Arnie Star inks. [01:19:19] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, [01:19:26] Speaker A: Brett, I'm sorry. [01:19:28] Speaker B: Wow. [01:19:29] Speaker A: My apologies, Brett. [01:19:30] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [01:19:31] Speaker A: I would never. I would never compare your art to this ever in a million years. [01:19:36] Speaker B: Honestar's great, just not a Booster Gold and definitely not. Would not be Alex approved. [01:19:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I think the biggest challenge with Booster Gold here is to. They know. They obviously, at this point know they're getting rid of the book, and so they've tiered it down and now they're just giving them the rotating anchors, and that sucks. [01:19:55] Speaker B: And it's just going to. Who's got time? [01:19:59] Speaker A: Our team consistency is key. And yeah, it just. It sucks to see it go down like this. Especially when the stories were getting better. [01:20:05] Speaker B: Oh, my God, they're getting so good. And when the art's not holding up its end of the stick, it's. It's just a bunch of poop. [01:20:14] Speaker A: Well, on that note, we should go. And remember. Yeah. It's not time in November. Oh, it's the art. [01:20:25] Speaker B: It's not just you. It's the art. [01:20:28] Speaker A: That's it. We will see you soon. Bye. [01:20:30] Speaker B: See you later. [01:20:32] Speaker A: Bye. [01:20:32] Speaker B: Bye.

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