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[00:00:06] Speaker A: Pokemon cards.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: No, no, this kid at the shop did. And he was like.
[00:00:11] Speaker A: And he.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: And he opened him up and he got like a good card in one pack and he got a good card in another pack. And he was like, so excited. He couldn't. Couldn't stop himself.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: He was kind of excited. Like the guy who used to go back into the comics when I had them at the shop and take all the Emma Frost covers and then leer at them.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: Lear.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Oh, different type of excitement, I assume.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah, different type of excitement I saw
[00:00:36] Speaker A: when I was putting the comics away. I saw all the Emma Frost ones that were missing, and I was like, oh, this is what Greg was talking about.
I assume that guy doesn't come to the retro emporium on. In. On Meeker street in Kent, Washington, where you can relive your childhood. In fact, you can follow the retro emporium on Instagram or Facebook.
You can, but not on X because Anne doesn't like it. Not there anyway.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Not there.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: But that guy doesn't come anymore.
[00:01:07] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: He.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: When we pulled the comic. Book. Comic book boxes, he is like, wait, what? No comics? And I was like, you bought all of them Frosts?
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Instead of just leaving me some.
He only wanted the ones with. He was naked on the COVID which was most of them.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, yeah, between him and this other guy that would just sit back there and he would scan. Scan covers and see which ones were hitting big on any resale site. And then he'd just like, make a giant stack and walk out with a Cheshire cat green.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Good for him. He's happy, I'm happy. He has to do the work of doing the thing I didn't want to do.
So there you go.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, we put them out there basically for the kids, you know.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: Well, those were your. I was talking about my.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: Have that experience.
I know, I know, but I mean, it was mainly like, a lot of times it was like you would see children waiting to look in the boxes and this sweaty dude just like.
And I was like, geez, Dan, what are you doing back here?
[00:02:15] Speaker A: Yeah, that is me in a comic shop.
The. Yeah, I think. I mean, look, collectors, buyers, resellers, whatever they want to do. I mean, you all resell too, sometimes.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I mean, it's. It's no shame on the game. You do what you do. But at the same point, I mean, you should read the room a little bit and, you know.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think also, just like, I think too, it's interesting because when I was selling them at $2 a book, unless you're getting them graded.
I had whole runs back there. So you can pull the individual, but you will actually make more selling the run.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: That's an amazing, crazy thing.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Right. And they were ones. I put. And I made that mistake probably. I put. Well, I put them back there for $2 a book just to see, you know, to. Well, that was back when the records weren't there. So there was a room in the store. Now there's a whole record room in the back. If you get into the retro empor. Yeah, but it does speak to I. It's, you know, there's all these different parts of comic books and comic book fandom and there's certainly some toxic points. And, you know, I'm toxic sometimes too. It was funny. We were talking to listener Jason on online and talking about Frank Miller and. Yeah, you know, once again, Frank Miller, but non plus. Well, in this case it was for Marvel, not dc. But, you know, we were talking about when was it okay for everybody to murder everybody in Marvel. And it was really after Frank Miller's run on Daredevil.
And Frank Miller comes to D.C. and does dark Knight Returns. And whether we think that's good for the storytelling or not, I think there's aspects of it that are good for the storytelling. We think there are aspects of it that are bad for the storytelling.
But ultimately.
And by the way, this will come out a couple weeks later because Secret.
Sometimes we record more than one episode on the same day and then we release them later because both of us have jobs and so we can't always, like, be sure we can record every time and. Or I have to edit them.
Somebody gets sick. Means I listen to them.
But yeah, I mean, because I. I don't. You know, the amazing thing is all the things we say on here, we pretty much just put out to the public. I don't generally don't edit anything.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Occasionally I will go to Greg and I will say, it's usually not what Greg said. It's usually, hey, Greg, I said this. Listen to this clip.
Is this okay? And Greg will usually say, yeah.
And if. If we really question it, we run it across a third party, somebody like Jiu Jitsu Lawyer Paul.
Yeah. And just say, hey, am I saying anything that's. That's out of bounds here. But with that said, we just lost a great one.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: It's true. We did.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: We lost Jerry Conway, man.
And we were talking all about. It's ironic because we were talking. We've been talking all about Punisher and the. In the impact of Punish.
And I don't think. I don't want people to think, especially now that we're blaming Jerry's for the way Punisher turned out. I think Gerry Conway's was more of your interpretation of the Punisher. It was a character that had Spider man like other characters in the Spider man comics, had Spider man question his own personal morality. Right.
Yeah.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: I mean, he's.
I think what Jerry was doing with the character was putting the human inside, you know, and. And bringing that story out, humanizing that, that, that story, making it something that every person could just say, oh, okay, I empathize with this person because they had some bad things happen to them, and they're doing things that maybe questionable, but at the same point, they're doing it because.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: And I still don't like it. I didn't like it. I don't like it. I don't like the original story. I don't like the later stories because I don't like, you know, the glorification of gun violence in that way. Now, this doesn't mean I won't watch. And, you know, I was. We're getting hypocrisy, hypocrisy of it. This doesn't mean I won't watch a violent movie.
[00:06:46] Speaker B: I know, like, you. You love the John Wick movies, and you're like, oh, man, John Wick is amazing.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: I've never watched. I have never watched. I've watched five minutes of the first John Wick movie.
I. It's. I think it's more of the revenge violence. A lot of time I need the revenge violence to be cartoony for me to watch it. If it's cartoony violence, what was that Santa movie?
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Oh, like. Well, any of the dark Santa movies where you got a Santa that is doing revenge. Like the. Are you talking about the one with David Hart?
[00:07:21] Speaker A: I don't know. It was a couple years ago.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: Or Mel Gibson. I mean, there was a couple of them. There's been a couple of them out there. But where, like, Santa is.
Something happens to a kid, at least in one of them.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: But that's parody, right?
[00:07:36] Speaker B: And that's. It's very parody. And then his workshop gets destroyed and Santa, like, goes all black ops operative and listener.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: Jason asked me to be in and. And host of his own podcast, of course, but ask me to be. To not censor myself when I'm talking about this. So just say it out loud. And if we weren't clear before, Thomas Jane's.
Thomas Jane, the Actor playing the punisher in the 2004 movie is the impetus for a lot of what's going on with the Punisher. Now. Now that's not Thomas Jane's fault necessarily. Right. But that movie is the thing that launched the popularity among the. Right. And, and the symbolism and, but feel
[00:08:21] Speaker B: like Warzone did a more, more disservice to the character in the sense of what you're talking about comic. If you're talking about movies. No, the, the movie adaptation of it.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: But yes, that too.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Thomas Jeans.
When did Warzone come out though, again, Thomas?
Like four or five years after that.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: I mean they both,
[00:08:46] Speaker B: they both. One leads into the other, of course, but I, I, and continue.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: Warzone was a comic first, though. Well, that was my thought was the comics teed up the movies.
The movies brought it to a mass audience as they do and then that's the result. So it's, it's interesting. I, I do want to go back to Jerry Conway though, because I don't want to leave the Jerry Conway discussion off on Punisher.
Right. But I just.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Because he did so much, I was asked to clarify.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: Right. And that's more of the clarification is the comics created a character that then they took those elements and made.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: It doesn't sit well with you.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Those elements now have become popularized and I just, and, and you know, it's. Honestly, it's okay if people like it. I'm not mad at people from liking it, but I'm mad at people if they glorify it in, in to be fascist. To be clear, if you're glorifying the Punisher symbol and using it to spread fascism. Yes. I do not like you. And
[00:10:01] Speaker B: well, it misses the point completely and wholly as to what the Punisher is and stands for.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Right. But they're using it to stand up against the government or stand up against some idea. Right. Or stand up against the evil anti fascist or stand up against, you know, who they perceive through QANON to be doing something that's not happening.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. I mean, to use it as that, that symbol or to, I mean I, Again, you know, to.
If you, if you read the Punisher, most of our listeners and viewers do have a good understanding of this, so we're preaching to the choir on most of this. But I mean, Punisher with the blue line on it doesn't quite make sense to me.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: And I'll, and you know, it's.
Well enough Punisher for today. Let's, let's talk about Jerry Conway.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go.
Let's talk about what. What are the other amazing things that he.
[00:11:02] Speaker A: Well done. He killed Gwen Stacy.
Yeah.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: But I bring that up because it's something that he's criticized for, but I don't think it's something he should have been criticized for. Character. Main characters did not die in comics. We mentioned Pharaoh Lad and Legion way back when we were talking about Jim Shooter.
Obviously, they couldn't keep an Iron Boy around for a lot of reasons, probably. But killing a character in the character, mostly staying dead, was a big deal in comics. In the Silver Age, it just usually didn't happen. And then in the Bronze Age, you know, you kill a major character like Gwen Stacy, that was a big deal. And obviously, you know, you don't have Spider Gwen unless they actually killed Gwen Stacy in the main book a long time ago in that mythos, you know, just sitting there.
I don't know that the movies with Andrew Garfield did any favor to Gwen Stacy.
I don't hate those movies. Don't react like that. I thought those movies were fine.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: No, yeah. No, I was gonna say the movies were great. And honestly, I think that that whole scene cinematically was like. I mean, it really takes you through the motions of it and the realization as they're getting closer to the ground, it's like he's.
He's doing everything within his power to. To stop it, but it. All it takes is a friend.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: I think the challenge was with Sony and the group that. The Perlman group. Right. That owned Marvel when the first Spider man movie came out. They should have done Spider man in the right order.
Mary Jane's a much more impactful character.
When Gwen died, you know, with Gwen dead.
Because they do that in the comics. You know, both of them love Pete.
It's.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: You know, and, And. And anyway, why didn't they just tell the whole story?
And they could have. And, you know, they had five. If you have the five movies back, you could have done the story in the right order.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: They. They probably could have. But with Andrew Garfield's run, they cut it short.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I'm saying from the start.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: I don't think we have.
From the start.
[00:13:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:16] Speaker B: If you did and go all the way through and get everything kind of in line by. I mean.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think it would have been more. Gwen would have been more impactful in the larger popular culture if that had happened.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: I mean, here's the bigger question, though. I mean, like, is the meme correct? Is Dr. Octavius really, really Peter's uncle?
[00:13:38] Speaker A: But he is. He is really in Peter's brain.
That was for sure.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe so.
[00:13:47] Speaker A: But. But Jerry did all sorts of stuff.
And of course, you know, I'm more of a DC person and I was sad to see.
Not a lot talked about his D.C. run, but co creator of Power Girl.
That's a kind of a big deal.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Just a little bit.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: And Yeah, I mean, that's a.
That's a big, big character in the universe still.
It. After Crisis, Power Girl was popular enough that they didn't keep the Earth two characters, but they kept Power Girl.
They even got rid of Huntress. Right. They have the new Huntress after. After Crisis.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: So there's a different.
There was a lot of oomph to that character. He wrote Legion books.
He wrote the Legion books between.
I think we were mentioning this when we mentioned him the other day, but he wrote the Legion books between the two Levitz runs and had some interesting stories in there.
Ultra Boy and space pirates.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: What?
Space pirates. I love space pirates.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: Ultraboy hung out with Dan.
[00:14:56] Speaker B: You know, this.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Presumably screwing a space pirate.
Yeah. Wow. Pretty intense.
Well, he lost his memory scene or actually Bad News Bears.
[00:15:10] Speaker B: It's not the only thing, apparently.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Well, I think Phantom Girl and him had already been together, probably.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: I was gonna say. I mean, he. If they're pirates, he probably lost his food.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: These were teenagers, you know, I'm sure they never did anything in the clubhouse, but.
Yeah, so that's where I obviously.
But Jerry wrote a lot of different things and I think the really interesting.
Of course, Paul Levitz writes amazing stuff, unfortunately, when people pass away.
But if you follow Paul Levitz on Facebook, he's writing a huge tribute to Jerry over several days, including talking about Jerry Conway. Paul Levitz was laid off with the implosion as an editor, and he was only working like a couple days a week, I think.
And I forget who. Oh, I think it was Orlando.
I think it was Joe Orlando. I may have this wrong, but Jerry Conway and I believe Joe Orlando paid his salary so he could keep working out of their own salary.
And then he was hired back on four months later.
[00:16:24] Speaker B: Stay on.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: I mean, talk about in times of crisis, you know, no pun intended.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: No pun intended.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: You know, just the willingness to help your fellow man, you know, that's. That's pretty neat, right?
[00:16:42] Speaker B: Well, that's. I mean, it's important and it shows, like, definitely, like a.
The.
The reality of. Of. Of friendship and camaraderie during times like that.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: And so rest in peace, Jerry Conway. You brought joy to many People not just with comics, but also with television scripts.
And just a great writer in the industry and will definitely be missed. Yeah, this. This guy died way too young.
[00:17:17] Speaker B: Definitely.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: And so, yeah, we would have been fun to read more Jerry Conway stories.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that is true.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: And on that note, we are ready for Booster Gold.
Number 20 or 21. 21.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: Number 20. Yeah. No, this is. Is it 21? It is. 21. Yeah, you're right. 21.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Open the poly bag.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: He's gotta open.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: Do you.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: Okay, if it's 21, do you. Do you hit or do you stay?
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Greg, you can't. If you have 21, they won't let you do anything.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: I know.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: You're done there, buddy. That's. That's it.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: I. I what? I used to deal. It was always funny to get people that were a little inebriated and they're like, I'm gonna go. And I'm like, you can't. You're. This is. You, you, you. You have.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Well, technically, Technically, you could. I'm gonna split double a blackjack.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: I mean, you can't split.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: You can't split. I mean, blackjack, you can double it. It would be idiotic, but you double do it.
You could try. Give up 1.5 to try to get two times.
I mean, the odds of that are dumb, but.
But you could.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Very rarely ever.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: You could. Well, anyway, it's kind of gambling like Booster. Well, we have quite the COVID here.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: We do have quite the COVID here.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: As we left off with the last issue of Booster Gold.
Booster Gold goes back to the mansion and presumably finishes up his adventure fighting the.
The Color Kid, The Chromatic Chroma.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: Key Chroma. Key Boy.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: From a Key Boy. G. Bivolo.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Yes. Roy G. Bubalo, the Flash villain.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: Color Chromat. Color.
Color Kit is a legion of substitute heroes.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Alert Color Rainbow Raider. Rainbow Raider.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: Raider. There we go.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: We both got it at the same time.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: The Ra. So the Rainbow Man.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: Dan and I are.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: And Roy G. Vivolo. And it's a sad tale of a. Of a boy who just wants to be an artist. Colorblind.
And to wear that outfit. He definitely needed to be colorblind.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: I thought it was a great outfit.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: And also we got the great inking of Artie Star
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Man.
Already Star all over the book. I mean, how could you not want that? That was.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: Oh, well, Arnie, I'm sorry, but we're. I'm going to have to say that we're making upgrades. Someday I'm going to meet Arnie Star. Perhaps Assuming Arnie Star is still with us,
[00:20:28] Speaker B: Dan does a quick search. Oh, my gosh. I've been speaking, so.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: I know.
Well, I'm still. I mean, I'm not going to change my mind. The inks were terrible. The.
The inks were terrible. I mean, they were good in the Legion book, though, so. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: I mean, maybe he just didn't like Booster.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Maybe he had to do a rush job. I mean, they were swapping anchors out a lot, so.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like, oh, I gotta do this really quick. I only have 40.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Dan Jurgens is not a good anchor or a good penciler.
Yeah, I don't think that's true. I've got my Wildfire print.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: I was gonna say you.
You better wash your mouth. That was soap, mister. That's offensive.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: It's Arnie Starr, D.C. fandom. It looks like he's. He's still with us.
Oh, I can follow him on.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Oh, all right.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: Follow him on Facebook.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: Do it.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: Follow on Facebook and then have him come listen to the episode.
[00:21:27] Speaker A: This doesn't look like the right person.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Oh, it's not him.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Oh, no, no. There's a bunch of comic book people.
It looks like he maybe went to a career in Hollywood because he's got Mad Men up on his thing. That's cool.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
He's been drawn for everybody.
Ron Dre.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: I think I have to add him as a friend. I don't know if I can follow him. I don't think he wants to be my friend.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: I'll add him as a friend. You could, and I'll tell him, Listen to all the things Dan said about you.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: Drawer of my Legion, My Fatal Five Prince. Mark Stegbauer is friends with him.
Okay, so.
Well, he's an actor, an artist. He's done all sorts of things.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: He's an.
He's like. He's like Relay.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Booster Gold. He's this.
You know, these are things I probably should know.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: He. He is the rainbow, apparently.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, well, maybe he was. Had more portfolio as an artist and actor.
This is impressive.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: So that's what he was doing on Madman. He was acting. He was in the.
He was in the show. Now, you're gonna go back and. And check out.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: He was the police sketch artist on Castle.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Oh, wow. I have all those episodes.
I have them all.
Of course I do. Don't I, Dan?
[00:22:58] Speaker A: Of course I do.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: Nathan Fillion.
I have every single season.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: That thing just keep.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: I've been trying to get Ann to watch it with me, and that thing
[00:23:06] Speaker A: just keeps Coming back to haunt me, doesn't it?
[00:23:10] Speaker B: Ah, you gotta rewatch. I don't know why.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: Maybe we should have talked about this when Arnie Starr was actually doing the art instead. No,
[00:23:20] Speaker B: I'm gonna go watch Castle now
[00:23:22] Speaker A: and do that instead. We have, we now we have switched and we have a new art team while Dan Jurgens is still writing the book and penciling the book. But we have Ty Templeton doing inks.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Ty Templeton.
[00:23:38] Speaker A: And sometimes I find Ty Templeton's art to be a little blocky. But I, Maybe you could make this criticism in this book of it being a little blocky.
But there was something.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: But I thought, I like this.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: I thought it was a beautiful book overall.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: I thought the book looks really good.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: The COVID is really busy.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: The COVID is busy. But I can't, I can't say that's all tie. That's not.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Well, I mean, there's a, It's a team for a reason. But I like the COVID being busy. I think the cover's really cool.
[00:24:11] Speaker B: It is a cool cover. It's like, you know, you got, got Booster going back and forth. He's getting pulled in two different directions.
It's a mess.
Just like Booster is internally.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: And also, we want to know on the COVID who watches the Watchmen?
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Who does that?
[00:24:30] Speaker A: A big deal.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: Watchman. Dan.
I think it was, I mean, I think, I think they wanted you to ask the question and ponder that yourself, to wonder who is watching them.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: Well, instead of talking about fascist superheroes, let's talk about Booster Gold.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: Snap. Damn.
A capitalist superhero. Quite the opposite.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Giant moment of silence.
Oh, my.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: Well, I mean, there was technically a capitalist fascist and just a straight up fascist.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Hey, I wasn't, I, I wasn't, I was just, I was making a statement about Booster.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Well, I thought you were talking about Watchmen still.
I didn't know we'd transitioned.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: I, No, I, I, I, I, I prefaced it with when you said, let's talk about Booster Gold, and I said a capitalist. I didn't say fascist.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: I just said. Well, I thought you were talking about Watchmen. Stone.
Because there is a capitalist fascist, and there's a fascist fascist in Watchmen.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Oh, of course there is.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: Ozymandias, of course, being the capitalist fascist and the comedian being the straight up fascist fascist.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: What do you mean? He's so, he's so funny.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: Yeah, he's hilarious. Rape is hilarious.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: He's a piece of trash.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: Somebody's gonna short clip that, what I just said.
Maybe that is what I should delete oh, my God.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah. See, that's the one time where I should have had the soundboard button.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: Well, now that we're not discussing that anymore, the Booster Gold cover, I think, is really cool because it says, booster has two choices. Save his sister or save himself.
And the M and Ms. Are playing baseball because it's October now. This is a very untimely ad. The COVID date is October, which means the book is released in December or January.
[00:26:35] Speaker B: So The M&M's are not playing baseball.
They're getting ready for basketball.
Or.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Wait, do I have that backwards?
[00:26:44] Speaker B: Who do you think's the.
No, it. If it was the date on the COVID then it would come out two months after.
I mean, it. Would you.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Wait, No, I have that backwards.
Do you.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: So it came out earlier, so it was fine.
Who do you think the best baseball playing Eminem would be?
[00:27:09] Speaker A: I. I don't know.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: 10 listeners. We want you to tell us who you think the best baseball playing Eminem would be.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: Because he was too dead.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: He's. He's just tired. He's too good. Hall of Famer.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: You got an advertisement on the back, by the way.
[00:27:27] Speaker B: Rbi. What?
[00:27:29] Speaker A: Yeah, for Forgotten Realms.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: I forgot about them already.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
I don't know what this guy in the background of the Forgotten Realms is doing.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: I don't know either.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: He looks very relaxed for a campaign.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: He's just.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Well, we get a splash page with big Booster Gold flying, and he is unhappy Michelle has been kidnapped.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: Not happy.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: And we have Invasion from Dimension X.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Oh, Dimension X, I hear.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: As I mentioned, we have Dan Jurgens on words and pictures, Ty Templeton on inking, Steve Hayne on lettering, Gene d' Angelo on coloring, and Barbara Randall or Barbara Kiesel or Barbara Randall. Kiesel on edits.
A lot of wars there.
And this was published monthly by DC Comics.
It says so right down here.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: It says it right there. Monthly
[00:28:34] Speaker A: subscription plan coming to you get all four more issues or whatever.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: That's why I would. I mean, like, honestly, that's what they're hoping. They were like, oh, there's somebody out there.
Greg Smith. He's going to talk his parents into it because he loves Booster Gold, and then we're going to cancel this book on him.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: Well, we get a. We get a page, and we get a flashback to something that we never actually read in the book, which is this. Cool.
And we find out that they've tracked the aliens to Minnesota.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: That's where they b.
[00:29:07] Speaker A: And so Booster Goals goes to find Michelle in the Midwest at her Airbnb she's not there, but the proprietor is dead because the aliens killed him last issue.
And it's not going well. And Booster finds a portal and one of the Dimension X aliens, now that we know they're from Dimension X and it was very exciting. And we get an advertisement for your favorite thing. It. I understand it sort of tastes like everything you like in a candy. Chewy chalk.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: Now, Julie chalk.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: I can't imagine this. This candy didn't stick around.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: It's everything you want it to be and nothing at all. It's chewy chalk. Put it in your pocket and forget about it. And then find the wrapper.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: It's a cherry candy. The fun and fruity fooler.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: It sounds. It sounds like a Booster Gold to me.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Maybe they should have kept making baseball cards and not chewy chalk.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: I was.
Well, you know, it's. It's funny is that. I mean, they. They made the cards just like tops to get rid of the gum that they create.
That's the truism.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: And then we get one of the worst advertisements. Unless they're just being funny because I've never read this.
There's this book called Slash Maraud, but the tagline says.
A new deluxe format miniseries in shocking color.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: But it's in black and white.
For those not watching very confused by this. If you're listening to this, it's not in color.
What is going on? They want you to. It's in color. It's in two colors. Black and white.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Well, back to being in color, because Booster's in color again.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: Booster is.
[00:31:07] Speaker A: Booster gets ambushed by one of the alien killers.
They yell it back at each other. Booster is a specist.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: Being mean.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: He. He kind of.
[00:31:21] Speaker A: He wants to know where his sister is. But then he gets blinded because we were reminded at the beginning of the story that he shouldn't be seeing bright lights for a while.
Is blinded by the light, and he goes and chases the. The ex alien. The alien calls him an insolent brat.
And he. Then he.
But then he turns the gun on himself and shoots himself.
Now I'm a smoking alien.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: I guess that's a plan.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: Do you think he was using the chalk and then lighting it? The chalk candy.
[00:31:55] Speaker B: Oh, maybe he was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna see if this cherry pops.
[00:31:59] Speaker A: Well, we get a.
We get a ticket. It says Minneapolis Stadium at the time otherwise known as the Metrodome.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: This is calling.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: I can. It didn't show up. It was just a white light.
I presume it's Travis, since It's time to record it. Is Travis at the same time every week. And Travis knows that. And then calling us at this time makes total sense.
[00:32:25] Speaker B: He wants to be on the show.
[00:32:27] Speaker A: So he does not want to talk about Booster Gold or the Legion. So we'll have to find something for Travis to talk about because he doesn't like either of those things. Yes.
I honestly think, though, if Travis had read the Legion as a kid, he would have liked it.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: I think if Travis had read.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: I don't think so, he would have liked it, too.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: I think.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: I don't think so. Legion is more of the. The kind of book that.
That teen superhero book is Booster Gold.
I mean, he loves Power Pack.
[00:32:57] Speaker B: I know, but Travis is Booster Gold.
[00:32:59] Speaker A: Well, yeah, May be true.
Well, he's like, they. Well, anyway, I don't want to explore that, so we're going to continue on.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: I don't want to unpack it. It's too much to unpack.
[00:33:13] Speaker A: Skeets, let Booster know that the Teen Titans have dealt with these aliens before and perhaps they could be of assistance because Skeets runs a thing.
We find out that Booster helped. I had forgotten this, even though I've read them.
Booster Gold helped the Teen Titans out with Brother Blood in new Teen Titans 2930.
No, we are not going back to read those as part of this.
No, we have to.
[00:33:40] Speaker B: It's in. It's in the timeline, Dan.
[00:33:43] Speaker A: No, it's of the past. It's of the future.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: The future's past.
But, I mean, why?
[00:33:51] Speaker A: Well, Booster reaches out to Donna Troy.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: It.
Yeah, I'm just gonna keep on read, Dan.
I think there's listeners out there that would love us to. To go.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: I think there are a lot of listeners that want us not to do any more. Booster Gold, in fact, have shared that with us.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: I don't think so. I think there's only one list.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: There are several listeners that don't want us to do Booster Gold anymore.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: I think that some of the other listeners that I see on a regular basis love the fact that we're doing it so well.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: You can keep thinking that. Yes, the.
Here Booster reaches out to Donna Troy and we find out that the original Teen Titans met these aliens in issue 16.
Oh, man, we gotta deal with them again in 20 through 22. You want to go back and read Silver Age Teen Titans?
Yeah, the rock and roll team.
Yeah.
Well, once he finds out, he calls in the Justice League and he's got to now go to Dimension X or something and figure all this out.
We've got a whole bunch of advertisements here.
They're fantastic.
Did you know you could buy the Topps complete set from 1987 for 1995?
[00:35:17] Speaker B: 1995.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: You know, I bought that complete set for 1995. And you know what it's worth now, around 1995?
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah, the same. It did not make any money. You know, I feel like I got robbed then because I, I mowed the lawn on my neighbor and my neighbor's lawn for all summer, and they paid me in that same box set.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Somehow we both got the top set. That is completely worthless.
Yeah, it's.
[00:35:49] Speaker B: Well, and they gave me the, they gave me the option I could either get silver dollars or the baseball cards. And I chose the baseball cards.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: They thought you.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: And if I had just got those. Damn.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: I probably would have chose the baseball cards to you.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Liberty Dollars. Dan.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: We've got advertisements for all sorts of things. We also have an advertisement for Doc Savage.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: Doc Savage.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: Clearly in the public domain. That's an interesting Doc Savage. It looks very Nathaniel Duck.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: Did you never read those?
Did you never read these?
[00:36:34] Speaker A: Dog Savage? No.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Oh, those books are amazing.
Oh, man. Is there a cape in place that, between that, not so much. But between Doc Savage and Blackhawk, my dad was pretty much like, all right, cool, we'll go to the comic book store and you can get whatever you want. And then he would pick up those. And then I got those after he was done reading them, like a couple years later because I was too young at the time.
[00:37:02] Speaker A: Well, this is a reconception version of Doc Savage.
Yes. It says.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I mean, but it's, it, yeah, it's, it's more adult in a sense.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: Well, it's deluxe format.
Precursor.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: It is precursor to Vertigo, obviously. All these books that we keep showing you, these creator books and, I mean, the art's gonna be pretty solid, I imagine, with Adam Kubert and Andy Qbert.
I heard they're good.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: I, I, I, Yeah, maybe a bit.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: I heard they're kind of good.
I heard their dad was. Yeah. Too.
[00:37:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. I, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna.
My cousin had the opportunity to go to school and chose to go to different. Go to a different school.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Well, we flipped the page and Trixie and Dirk the Jerk are fighting.
He's really mad that they have a new office manager.
[00:38:11] Speaker B: I would be, too, because, I mean, Dirk, Dirk is a businessman. He's standing on business. He's saying it like it is.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: I could do that because Booster Hired a woman?
[00:38:23] Speaker B: I. He doesn't know that yet.
Well, he thinks it's some other dude, and then he finds out. Then he finds out it's a woman. Then he's like, what the.
[00:38:33] Speaker A: Well, he's like. I said, you expect. I expected a man.
He literally says it.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Everyone expects a man.
[00:38:45] Speaker A: Well, she's thinking in a thought bubble that rolls to the next page, which we don't like, but for some reason, it does.
After all, I have some very special plans for Booster Gold International, and it's never too early to start.
I wonder what those plans are.
[00:39:00] Speaker B: Would have. Holy.
That totally could have been on the other page. It should have been on the other page next to.
I mean, who would have thought Lady J would be so bad?
Oh, my God, Dan, why would you say such a terrible.
[00:39:20] Speaker A: I, as a kid, always hated Duke and Scarlet and liked Flint and Lady J way more.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, of course. What about.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: Why would Dan, like, not care about the pretty girl and want the.
I don't want to say.
That's what I was going to say, because I don't care.
But anyway, it's going back to.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: Because she. Because she's badass.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: Probably still is.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
One of the. Out of all the GI Joes that I kept in my collection, one of
[00:39:59] Speaker A: the ones I kept, I definitely would have kept Lady James.
Yeah, Scarlett was awesome.
She's.
[00:40:07] Speaker B: She's cool. But I mean, you know, crossbows that only do so much.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: Well, it's. Booster gets in a concentric circle.
I don't know what he's doing here.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Interesting.
He's. He's pulling time into him, like, for
[00:40:26] Speaker A: magnets, and they used it for magnetism for Michelle, too.
I don't know what's going on. Well, anyway, he's got a signal.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: Rooster's got powers that you don't need to.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: He's found. He's got new things. He's found the dimensional rift or whatever. He's gonna go get these Dimension X guys.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: They get him.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: By the way, the art in this book get him great.
And it is so good.
The art in this book is great. And also the story just moves.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: It really does. I mean, we haven't gotten. I mean, in the time that we've been talking, we've only got so far. But the book.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: We're on page 12 already, so we're moving.
[00:41:08] Speaker B: No, I know, but we've been talking
[00:41:09] Speaker A: about a lot of the aliens look, really. The Silver Age aliens look really cool.
They look out of place, and they're supposed to Be. I think.
Yeah.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: That's what makes. I mean, they.
They're of a different.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: And a different era.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: And a different era. Yeah. They fought other people from the same place. Well.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: And the aliens are mean. They're trying to hurt Michelle. They're zapping her power.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: She asks, why are you trying to kill me? And they say, simple explanation. Your dimension does not yet have the technology to conquer us, but someday it could. Before that can happen, we shall conquer you.
Such is the natural order of things, huh?
Oh, so they're fascists.
Okay, they are. Well, Booster goes to the Metrodome, but they don't call it the Metrodome, but it's got the big baggie on it. So if you remember the old baseball stadium, football stadium in Minneapolis, it basically had. They used to say it had a Hefty bag on top.
Yeah.
[00:42:15] Speaker B: Inflates stop.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Inflated. That's so it wouldn't collapse in the snow, I believe.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: They were concerned a regular dome would collapse in the snow, but they put a giant garbage bag on top of the stadium and then it worked. Great.
So that's where Booster's going. He heads to Gate F and he's got a. He breaks in the stadium going and looking for the dimension thing.
Burst through some walls, flies around talking to Skeets.
Skeets helps him find it, of course, because that's the way of things.
Let's get.
He travels into this cross dimensional area that's full of orbs and lines and pretty colors.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: Oh, man, it is pretty cool.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: And the aliens can see that he's coming in and they're, they're very upset by that.
Then Booster fights some weird creatures in the cross dimensional space. And he knows he's talking. He keeps talking to Skitso. They're having a whole conversation about rescuing Michelle.
He's trying his gauntlets out on them. The they. It's not working. Not enough energy, apparently, but it kind of. The guy just sucks up the energy. And then before we continue, we get an early Mile High comics ad.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
You too can go to Mile I Comics and peruse.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: Some of these were not a good deal.
Some of them were a great deal.
Now the first printing of Dark Knight returns. Number one. 30 bucks. Probably a good deal.
Probably just an average deal. Honestly, most. Mile High at the time was not that great a deal.
If we go flip the page. Let's see. There was a specific one I was laughing at because you were, you were. I was going to share it with you and you were going to be like, yeah, the new Teen Titans backstory edition.
Yeah. Number one. Five bucks.
5, 25, 175. At that time, 25, 150.
I think you can buy most of those now for 50 cents to a dollar.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: But man, at back in the day, $5, that's like.
[00:44:40] Speaker A: Here's a good deal, though. Are you ready?
[00:44:42] Speaker B: I would have had the Most watchman number one.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: 375.
I'd go back and buy all their watchmen number one for 375.
[00:44:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:54] Speaker A: I would actually get number one for 375. Number two for 275. Three through six for 225. Seven through nine for two bucks and ten and up for 175. So we need to go back in time, buy all of those, and then make some bank now.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Yeah, bring that money.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Also, I found something interesting here that I need to research. New comics. I wonder if this was done by my. Well, it's. No, it's in Illinois, so it was not. New Comic dealers, is your new comics distributor making you frown? If so, give Alternative Realities a chance to put a smile on your face.
So apparently this was a company competing for the distribution stuff at the time.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Free Wizard, New Realities.
It's pretty interesting.
Against the grain of.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Oh, it says Alternative rally. Oh, sorry. Alternate Reality Distributing Inc. Denver, Colorado. So this may be. Sorry, my bad. They have a new warehouse in Collinsville, Illinois. So this probably was an extension of Mile High. So maybe they just lost out. Oh, maybe Chuck. I didn't know Chuck was. I didn't know Chuck did try to. Well, it makes sense that he would try to distribute. I mean, he had a bunch of boxes and he was selling new comics to people, so.
[00:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:08] Speaker A: Well, anyway, more comics history I need to dig into, because I want to know about this. This is why reading these books is fun.
[00:46:16] Speaker B: I, I, I find Chuck's story so interesting, too. Just the fact that, like, Emmy started just dealing just like a regular dealer, you know?
[00:46:25] Speaker A: Oh, the Mile High story is fascinating. Just decides, yeah, drop it.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: A.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: And his fight, right, his current fight with San Diego ComicCon is also epic.
He's just like, yeah, you're not a comic anymore.
[00:46:43] Speaker B: You're an everything thing. So just let the let the con part go.
Let anybody use it.
[00:46:50] Speaker A: So well, we go back to Booster before I get sad about that. And Booster's fighting a bunch of creatures in the in between space.
He dumps one of his wrist gauntlet things off, blows up all the aliens, go, wow, that's cool.
[00:47:09] Speaker B: I like shiny things.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: Then he also Bursts a hole into the other, into the X dimension.
And he goes through and he's there.
But now, just like when he lost his other powers, he now only has one gauntlet. So it's kind of like the comic a few issues ago, like 10 issues ago, where his.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: All his power diminished.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Right. He was still fighting the.
What was their names?
The 1000.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: Oh, all the.
[00:47:48] Speaker A: The 100.
[00:47:49] Speaker B: The 1000. Yeah, yeah. The 10 at the. It was the 100 at the time, I think it was. They. They went from the 1 to 10 to the. To the 100. So he's fighting them.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: So cool.
You could get.
Now we have east coast comics here.
Hey, did you know you could get a first printing of GI Joe number 17 for $7?
Seems pricey at the time.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Seems pricey at the time, but worth it.
[00:48:22] Speaker A: Special missions. You get all one through seven of those, you get the whole set for $4.75.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: Well, that's a deal.
[00:48:31] Speaker A: GI Joe versus Transformers anytime.
Miniseries, whole sets and 50 cents.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: That's a good deal. The four pack. The. Is it four? Four issues?
[00:48:41] Speaker A: That is what it says, yeah.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Oh, man, I love those books.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: You get Web of Spider man number one for $2.
That's black cover. Black Spider man cover. Yeah. That's cool.
Avengers. Yeah. Anyway, I like it.
Isn't it amazing how all these ads just start showing up in here at the same time?
[00:49:04] Speaker B: The same time?
[00:49:06] Speaker A: Well, we get a really cool page where Booster is face to face with the head alien.
It's going to take him out. Yeah, it's a cool page. The panel layout on this page, and I do like having consistent inks. It's nice.
And we get a dilemma here.
Either all these nice young men playing baseball are going to die, or Michelle is going to die.
And Booster has to decide who he's going to save.
And we won't know who he's going to save until next issue, because that's what we call a cliffhanger.
[00:49:53] Speaker B: These cliffhanger episodes issues every single time. Dan, it's driving me bad.
[00:49:59] Speaker A: The nature of a cereal.
[00:50:04] Speaker B: I love cereal, but this is no cap and crunch.
[00:50:07] Speaker A: Well, as I mentioned last time, you could join the sales leadership club, but you could also join the Olympic sales club.
[00:50:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
What do you get with the Olympic sales club?
[00:50:18] Speaker A: Sell the same thing, and you get a bunch of junk that you trade in, or they pay you a dollar a box of cards you sell.
[00:50:26] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: Seems like child labor.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: A dollar a box or a bunch of junk.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: We have a te Pounty letter here in The Gold Exchange. But I'm not going to read it.
[00:50:36] Speaker B: Oh, damn it.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: We are going to look at a letter from Peter meal sender from 496 W. College St, Oberlin, Ohio, 44074. Do you think he goes to Oberland?
[00:50:51] Speaker B: All right.
[00:50:52] Speaker A: Were they integrated at that point?
[00:50:55] Speaker B: I don't know.
86, 87.
[00:50:59] Speaker A: Well, anyway, Booster Gold number 17 is a very enjoyable issue you turned in another superb effort. You portrayed Hawk in Cheshire very well and I loved your art. The scenes of Hawk falling on page 16 were great. And the panels containing Peter babaya on pages 18 and 19 will become classics.
I don't need to read any more of this letter because he is wrong.
Okay.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: I just want to express that somebody else actually liked the art in that issue.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: We did not.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: But the rest of the issue, the rest of the letter was non readable.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: Well, I mean, when you lead to that point and I don't really have anywhere to go. Well, I bagged up my comic and I put it away and. And that means it's probably time for the end of our podcast.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: But time for the end.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: We can never leave the podcast because there's an important time.
And when you talk about interdimensional fighting, the only thing I can think of is interdimensional Alex.
An interdimensional soon to be available on Kickstarter. We'll put the link in the description here of the podcast when we release it on. On the Socials.
So if you just go to the link and you click on the thing, you can learn about interdimensional Alex in the future.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: In the future, Interdimensional Alex is doing intermediate interdimensional things. Cybernetically, Cyborgnetically.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: Life of Borg.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: Life of Borgs.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: That's the subtitle.
[00:52:48] Speaker B: There you go.
Life.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: And I think for me, that's it. On this episode. I think we've talked about Jiu Jitsu, lawyer Paul. We talked about Jerry Conway. Rest in peace, Godspeed. We have talked about the Retro Emporium. I think I said that twice already.
[00:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah, you did. And you didn't. But you didn't tell everybody how much you enjoyed coming for music.
[00:53:11] Speaker A: I did go for music at the Royal. And I also discovered that you are advocating for the murder of Sasquatches. And so.
And now I.
Now I know why.
Squatch, a man is so concerned, deeply concerned. When you had stickers advocating for hunting licenses for Sasquatches.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: Oh my gosh.
It's not hunting them to kill them. It's hunting them to like I hunt you.
Right.
[00:53:39] Speaker A: And you gave the Punisher a thousand of those cards. And, and
[00:53:45] Speaker B: geez about.
[00:53:47] Speaker A: You know how this goes.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: Wow. Dan.
Dan is just besmirching me at every level. I'm calling Jujitsu lawyer Paul after this podcast to talk about how Dan.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: Well, maybe you, maybe you should call Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul after all. You could do that going to, you know how. Do you know how to going to.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: I, I, you know, if I had his number handy, I could put it in my phone right now. So why don't you give.
[00:54:13] Speaker A: Okay, why don't I give it to you? Let's, let's see if you called him at 2536-5625-3447-5656-4475. You could talk to his intake specialist and see.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: I'm waiting.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: You have a, you know, you can meet with ball and he'll talk to you about any of your concerns, your legal concerns, like employment law or different things you might be struggling with.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: Answer the phone.
[00:54:47] Speaker A: One of the more interesting things we did is we did a case a couple months ago on Washington's anti doxing law. We had a client that was doxed by somebody.
If you are not familiar with doxing, that's when you put somebody's information on the Internet to try to do bad things, private information online to try to get bad things to happen to them.
And we did a whole case and to our knowledge, we were the first law firm in the state of Washington to litigate that statute. So there's a lot of things. He's a very smart, intelligent lawyer as
[00:55:26] Speaker B: well as the king of the little people.
[00:55:27] Speaker A: The talking of the little people is also true.
[00:55:30] Speaker B: Paul King and the little.
[00:55:31] Speaker A: On that note, I think it is time to go. No more shilling for Paul's agency. But. Or his law firm. But yes, if you need it, use it.
There you go. I do. Yes. Endorsed by. Endorsed by children's author Greg Smith
[00:55:50] Speaker B: and the Squatch a man, apparently.
[00:55:51] Speaker A: Squatch a man. I, I can I now it's starting to get. It's starting to escalate. So I can't talk about it online anymore.
[00:56:01] Speaker B: Good. I mean, what.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: Well, on that note, I think we're out of here. But you have a wonderful week and we will see you next week with Booster Gold. Number already out of the wrapper.
22 guest starring 22. The Just Us League.
[00:56:18] Speaker B: Just Us.
[00:56:19] Speaker A: And that's it.
See you later.
