Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Hit record. You hit record.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: But you told me you hit record before, and I was about to say something, and then you're like you're doing something. Well, I was doing something.
[00:00:13] Speaker A: No, I was doing something. You can see the countdown on the screen. There's literally a countdown every time I.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: Hit the button, I couldn't see it.
[00:00:20] Speaker A: This is why you're no longer in charge of the buttons.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: I have my own buttons.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: Well, we can't hear them because of the wonderful sound and noise protections I get in my new software.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: I dislike it.
People are sad.
They can't hear the awesome sounds that emit from my buttons.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: Okay, somebody presses buttons and you emit sounds.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: Yes.
Now the buttons press sounds. The buttons emit sounds, Dan. The buttons emit sounds.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: You press a button and you emit sounds. Yeah, I heard this.
Yeah.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: That's. That's how it works.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Yeah. All the time.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Exactly. I know. I know exactly how it works.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: You.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: You do things and.
Yeah.
And it happens.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: And it's. It's exciting.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: Exciting. Yeah.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: Yes.
Just like this book.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: You.
You know what?
[00:01:38] Speaker B: That.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: This book was exciting.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: It was exciting.
[00:01:42] Speaker A: I was actually really excited by this book.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: I saw this cover and got scared.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: I love this cover.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: I thought, he's getting eaten by the thing.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: There was a cover that hooked me into comics that I'm trying to find.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: So. Yeah, but it. Yeah, this cover is awesome. It's. We're. I. We're. We're actually going right into the book.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: I know. It's amazing.
This never happens on this podcast. We're talking about Booster Gold, number 13. 13 says the world is turning against Booster Gold.
How can they do this to a dying man?
[00:02:22] Speaker B: He's dying.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Booster's suit is magically back after last issue.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: It was. It was torn up. He was.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: He was naked.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: He was a half naked man on a dock.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Mostly naked.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Mostly.
Mostly.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: But mostly naked Now.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: Now he's fully covered again.
But burrow.
He's a husk of a man still.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: He is a husk of a man. And there's all these.
This looks like a Neal Adams cover, does it not?
[00:03:01] Speaker B: It does.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Like straight out of the seventies Green Lantern books.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. All the scary faces looking at Booster.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Laughing and sneering photorealistic faces in a lot of ways too, right?
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Oh, totally. Yeah.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: They.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: They definitely have a lot of detail.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: At least in as much as Jurgens can draw them. And this is Mr. Jurgens. I hope you realize I'm not insulting you by saying you're not as good as Neil Adams at drawing.
You are very good at drawing. I bought a $450 print from you.
[00:03:35] Speaker B: Because he likes your drawings.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Because I. Yes, but you are not Neal Adams.
But you are one of the artists that got me into comics, so there is that. Yes.
And I think that.
Yes. I just think that he is amazing and this cover is amazing.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: And I don't even know why I'm freaking out and saying things like this isn't as good as Neil Adams because I should just be comparing it to Dan Jurgens and it's an awesome cover.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: I mean, if you.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: Only because he took off and did the Neil Adams stuff. Right? Yeah.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: But if you look at all the faces, each face has a. They slightly look like somebody. You gotta. A Bela Lugosi looking guy over in the right hand, top corner, underneath the comics code.
You got a Vincent Price kind of looking guy down in the bottom by his leg.
There's a.
It just has like each. Each of these faces. You can. As you. As you look at them, they. They start to look kind of like people.
You know, it's like. I mean, you know, there's inspiration there.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Got a Hugo Strange looking one right under.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: Booster's armpit. Yeah, yeah, the. Yeah. And this is. No, it's a. It's a fantastic.
It's a. It's. It's really a fantastic cover. And we already mentioned that.
Yeah, we've already mentioned that Dan Jurgens pencils are one of the things that got me into comics, because I have I mentioned this. I mentioned the Legion of Superheroes books I bought off the newsstand. In previous episodes, I mentioned that Dan Juergens drew those books.
But those Tales of Legion books I got a year after my mom got me the first one were Dan Jurgen's covers as well.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: And so Dan Jurgens was drawing.
Was the artist on the. The Tales book, which is the. You know, we mentioned the direct sales stuff already. So I don't want to get into that. But just refresher for those. Maybe didn't listen to the previous podcast for Teen Titans, for Legion Superheroes, for the Outsiders.
Hash. Batman and the Outsiders. There was a main book, and when it went off newsstand to direct sales only, they offered two books. One that was sold on the newsstand and one that was sold direct sales.
And for a year, Legion and Teen Titans had two stories a month.
And so the Tales book was kind of considered the backup book, but Dan Jurgens was doing all the art on that book. And we mentioned that before, back when they introduced the two poor comic characters that were killed in the car wreck. Oh, yeah, but the one. The. The artist was complaining about drawing all those teenage superheroes, and Mr. Jurgens was maybe talking about himself, perhaps. But one of the books, Legion of Superheroes Tales, A legion of superheroes 322. Dawn Star's on the COVID and her face is kind of shrouded, and Brainiac 5 is being held. And he's like, dawn Star, what have you done? And it looks like she's maybe murdered somebody.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: And then we get another really cool issue, the next issue where Brainiac 5 is standing out and there's like a space gate behind him and a bunch of stuff going on.
One of my favorite covers of all time that Dan Jurgens did was in.
I don't know if it's his favorite, but it was just an interesting cover. It was in legion of supers 325 or tails element. Lads, head is big. I've showed you this one before. And then the rest of the Legion is like flying through space in front of his head.
And then. So just. I mean, these were. To me, obviously, I love the Steve Lytle color covers, which were the original covers as well of those books. But the Dan Jurgens covers were really cool.
And it's.
It was cool that he did that book. And then, you know, obviously went over here and did this. And then I was checking to see. And I don't think it's him. I actually think it's a different artist. So it was actually.
Oh, it was Edward. Edward. It was Eduardo Barreto, another fantastic artist.
But one of my favorite issues was the reprint of Tales of legion of superheroes four.
But tails number 329. And it's a very similar cover to this, except all the heads in the background are. It's the opposite of this, actually.
The characters in. The characters in the foreground are shadows.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: And the heads in the background are all colored in.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was. I. I read that comic to death because it was the death of Karate Kid, but I read that comic so much, I actually bought another one later. Because, I mean, it. You know, I have my original ones, but it was like roll the COVID rolled and like staples out and. Oh, man. I think it was water damaged. Or was that the issue before? I can't remember. Like, I mean, I.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: It got red.
[00:09:11] Speaker A: I read those books over and over and over again, which is why I can remember to go back and find that. So.
Eduardo Barreto. Yes. Another fantastic artist. So.
But yeah, I mean, I really love this. It has that feel.
Sorry for the distraction, everybody. If you're listening to Funny Book Forensics for the first time, this happens often. I get distracted and go talk about other things from the exact same time period. But this has a very 70s feel to the COVID does it not?
[00:09:39] Speaker B: It does it.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: Does it Definitely.
[00:09:40] Speaker B: It's got a little throwback feel to it.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: Well, Dan Jurgens picked up a new inker this issue.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: Mike DeCarlo is off the book and Gary Martin is on the book. And I think DeCarlo is overdoing the flash. If I didn't. We figure that out the other day.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: I think so.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: And so we've got a new inker on the book. And you can tell almost immediately because Dirk looks even better jerkier than normal on the first page.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: He does.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: I think the backgrounds change a little bit in these books, too. With that's fine.
This, we get a standy. It looks like Dirk is standing in front of the green screen.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: I know. Yeah.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: Getting ready for film.
[00:10:31] Speaker B: His commercial, he's like.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: He's.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Have you ever had a day where it just felt like it went forever and you gotta run for tomorrow?
Tomorrow.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: That is the title of the book. Yeah.
The Tomorrow Run, written and penciled by Dan Jurgens, inked by Gary Martin, lettered by Bob Lapin, Jean d' Angelo on colors, and Barbara Randall slash Kiesel, depending on the era in which she is editing, is the editor. And we have already given Barbara massive praise for the editorial direction of this book since taking over. And it's just going to get even better right now.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: It is. This is banger of a book.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: This book is fantastic. So let's notice. See, I just want to say. Say, do you notice when the book is really interesting how excited I get? And go straight to the book where if it's a book that's not my favorite, we talk about 27 other things before we get into the book.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: I mean, and I can understand. I can understand.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: We've all had long work days. Well, anyway, right now, Jerk the Dirk. Dirk the Jerk is saying, booster Gold is dying.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: He's dying.
I'm going to lose my golden goose.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Yes. Cash cow got his Miami Vice tie on.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: Skinny. And doesn't he know if he's wearing a tie? You don't unbutton the top button.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: You got to keep it tight.
Got to keep it tight.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Or just don't bother. I mean, or loosen it more like.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: He'S got to jack those Sleeves up on that jacket. He's got to have them pulled up to the. He's got to have him up to the elbow so it looks like he's like ready for business.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: The problem with Dirk is he doesn't have anything to roll too. Right. If he had biceps, you know, if he's rocking out, he could do that. But he's not. And so nor should he.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: He's.
He's just kind of chilling, hanging out.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Well, we are at STAR Labs, apparently.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: STAR Labs has amazing flooring. It does.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: It's pretty cool looking.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Green and. Green and white. Checkerboard flooring.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah, you could place some checkers on there, some chess, whatever. Flip it over something else. Maybe Ludo on the bottom.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: Well, good news. Trixie immediately starts yelling at Dirk, which is always my preference.
Oh, this man down in the corner is saying, that all sounds quite ominous.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: Oh no.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: And we note that the explosion happened last issue. And Barbara lets us know, shame on you if you missed it.
And she is correct.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: She is correct. You missed it. Go back, read that one.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: We're having a big conversation at STAR Labs and we're trying to figure out how to repower booster suit.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: You gotta pre toasted, Dan. You just gotta pre toast the suit.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: No, I did pre toast the suit and it failed. That was. That was the whole point.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Okay?
[00:13:40] Speaker A: You gotta pre power the suit, Repower the suit.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Pre power to repower.
[00:13:47] Speaker A: Well, we're talking to you. Who is this guy we're talking to? Do you remember his shirt?
[00:13:51] Speaker B: I. I think it's on his shirt. I think his. I think his shirt has his name on.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Does.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. I think we see it on the next page.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: I.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: Think when we get to the next page we see. Oh, maybe.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Well, anyway, he repaired some skeets and he's working on the miniaturized technology and he says it's light years of what he's ever seen before.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Light years beyond my comprehension.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: And his name is Jack, by the way.
[00:14:20] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it was Mitt.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: No, it's. That's.
Sometimes you say things and I don't know if you're kidding or not and.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: His shirt.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: He's got a name on his shirt.
[00:14:38] Speaker A: I assume you're kidding. Like you don't know what that is.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: It's not his name. Not Mitt.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: What does it stand for?
[00:14:45] Speaker B: Mitt.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: Like a glass. What does it stand for?
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Mitt.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: What does it stand for?
[00:14:54] Speaker B: I'm. I'm gonna say it's Mitt.
Yeah.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: So you don't know. See, I thought you were kidding.
It's a. It's.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: It's that school that they wouldn't let that. That. That janitor into.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: There we go.
[00:15:08] Speaker B: He liked apples, though.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: Thank you. All right, so I was like, please don't be serious.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: It's sad.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: I've had. I've had too much. There's been too much going on over the last. Too much ignorance in the world for you not to know.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: What was really sad, though, is his buddy had to go rob a bunch of banks dressed as a nun later on to get money so that his friend could go back to school.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: Well, Trixie lets Jack know as I just breeze out of that.
That. That Booster's a time traveler from the future. And Dirk's like, the future future.
Outrageous.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Shades.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he took his shades off, and Trixie's like, does that help? And Jack's like, that's remarkable.
So time travel is possible.
I'm now very excited.
You've just remember in the Legion of Superheroes said that Booster going back in time didn't change anything about the time stream.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, Editorial forgot that book completely, man, because we are just.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: That is.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: That whole theory is getting wiped out.
Like, Dan. Dan Jurgens and. And Barbara are running away from that, like, as far as they can with this issue.
Yeah, forget that.
Or Brainiac 5 was just wrong. So he's been wrong before.
He's definitely been wrong before. He created a super being that tried to destroy the universe. Yeah. During a mental breakdown, he makes mistakes.
He created a robot that tried to destroy the entire Earth while he was sane. Yeah.
And remember we read the monster in a Little Girl's Mind? He brought that robot back. He.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: He does things.
[00:17:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So he. He does things sometimes that maybe aren't. Aren't the smartest things.
While Jack says to save your friend, we face the unlikely task of returning him to the future. And since it involves time travel, I think I know just the man to call.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Is it who I think it is?
[00:17:28] Speaker A: I don't know.
We'll find out. I've already said who it was last, so. But anyway, we get a flip. And whenever you're a writer and an editor and you have a book that is faltering.
[00:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: And you need that story in the book to keep going, but the entire DC Comics world is doing a miniseries. Yeah. Crossovers.
What do you do?
Author? What do you do? What are some of your options to make sure that your book. You convince the entire DC editorial team that your book Cannot be in a crossover.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: You make it uncross, overable.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: You make it. Well, how. Yes, I understand that concept. I was asking esteemed comic book author Greg Smith, you what you would do to keep your book out of a crossover.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: You take it out of. Out of the time frame in which a crossover could happen.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Yes, that is a good suggestion. So in this story, yeah. Booster's in the hospital and all these people are protesting superheroes outside.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: They don't like superheroes.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: No way.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: And that's the only reference we're gonna get to. Well, this, in his conversation with his nurse are the only reference we're gonna get to that crossover series. Right. And then it's gone.
So that's their reference to Legends, which we mentioned last time was happening at the same time.
So we did get a reference a couple of issues ago.
Remember, the people were protesting outside.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: And then we get this reference and.
And that's it. And.
But his nurse doesn't want to treat him because she thinks he's just a jackass, the bad dude, for the money.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: We flipped a page and we get an advertisement for some series called Wonder Woman.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: With artist and writer George Perez.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: I bet you. I bet you it'll be something really spectacular.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: I bet George Perez is good at drawing.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: I.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: George Perez.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: I hear good things.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we get the conversation continuing with the no more superheroes thing. So we get one more page of it, everybody protesting outside.
And Jack mentions the anti superhero movement is getting stronger all the time.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: And they're like, hey, they're threatening Booster potentially. Oh, I want that to happen.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: No.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: So now we're gonna get the pitchforks.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Well, you know, Booster. I mean, of all the characters in DC comics at the time.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Booster may be the one that deserved it the most.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: I mean, if people knew his backstory. Yes. But if they didn't, then they'd just be like, oh, he's just a. He's just a guy that's just trying to. Trying to build himself up off of doing things.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He's just trying.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: He's trying to use.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Well, that is the criticism, though, is it? That if you were. If you were Glorious Godfrey.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Huh?
[00:20:56] Speaker A: In the Legend series, known as G. Gordon Godfrey, but the. The dark side associate. Right. And you were trying to grab onto a story about how terrible superheroes were, and Booster would be the logical one to grab hold of.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: He. He would be the logical one.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: But. So, yeah, it's just. It's interesting how the. The book doesn't fit do you think?
And I have my opinions and we'll get to them in a little while.
But do you think the book. Obviously we know now.
Spoiler. This book goes what, 24 issues. 25 issues.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: So it's going to end. It's going to get one more season, right?
[00:21:39] Speaker B: One more season.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: Do you think the Booster popularity could have benefited from being in that crossover?
[00:21:48] Speaker B: It might have, but I feel, I feel like he would have been martyred in the crossover and he, you would have, he would, he'd have been in the crossover and utilized.
He wouldn't have been a full utility character that would have been brought along for the ride and, and pushed out to the other side to, to playing nice with everybody else. He would have been brought along and he would have been used to an end.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, in the Legends 6 issue series, which was really odd for me because when I was a kid I only bought the last two issues of.
Because the Cosmic Boy miniseries was running. And then they said to find out more about what happens, pick up legends number five. And I didn't even know that legends 1, 2, 3, 4 had happened.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: So I go. And again, that was that weird thing too where I was telling you that back and forth. Right. The newsstand Legion books were a year behind, so I didn't know. Right, right. I was, the Legion books were still referencing like the crisis and stuff. Right. So it was, you know, just buying one 75 cent book and then two 75 cent books a month. Right. Like I wouldn't have known to pick up these things. No. So, and, and pedaling my bike all the way down to the very, as you mentioned, not dangerous bike ride down 1 52nd to the 711 to get my comics.
And so just kind of thinking about this and, and how it played out. I, I, of course I, you know, I might have seen Booster Gold on the newsstand but didn't know to pick it up. But we've mentioned, talked about that before.
But, and then I got the one of the two Legion books.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: But I didn't keep buying it because funds were limited.
Funds were limited. And so we get into this book and it is interesting. We get the superhero protests again and basically we get the side cast there to go rescue Booster and get him out of the hospital.
But, but, but the protesters give us something, give us a chance to unveil something.
And we find out that Jack has been researching Booster's powers and we find out that Dirk wanted Booster to have a female sidekick.
And so Jack had been working on A super powered suit.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Aha.
Jack has a sleeve.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Yeah. It'll come to be known as the Gold star suit.
And he wants Trixie to put it on.
And we find out that it's magnetically king. So basically, it's uses repulsion. Repulse. Repulsion.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Repulsion.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: Is that a word? Repulsion a word Feel like I'm making up a word.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: Anyway, easy, Magnetics.
Like, how do I work?
[00:25:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: Make the tides.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Like tide. Oh, is that how your clothes get.
[00:25:14] Speaker A: So clean when you tighten it? I skip. I skipped lines in the song.
Skipped ahead.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
I was going to say cuz, like, if miracles.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: Like the tides.
[00:25:25] Speaker B: Yeah, like.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Well, tide is a miracle, but I prefer gain.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but if you use tide, does the magnets in Tide get the. Does that hold the dirt out to the soap or does the soap repulse it with its magnetic force?
[00:25:42] Speaker A: I'm not sure.
But using gain. I walked through a security checkpoint the other day.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: And got wanded down. And the person asked me why I smelled so good.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Oh, well, that's. That's a plus.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: I thought they were kidding at first, but they were like, no, no, you. You smell great. Like. And I was like, well, I said it must be my laundry soap.
[00:26:04] Speaker B: So I guess that's a. This, That's a gain.
[00:26:07] Speaker A: Procter and Gamble.
We're right here.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Yeah, we're right here.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Send your dollars this way. Yeah, because, I mean, with the amount of gain that I buy, I mean.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: There'S no pain if there's no gain.
Different, but same different, but the same pain and gain. So what?
[00:26:29] Speaker A: We have movies for 100.
[00:26:30] Speaker B: What we have to do is we have to go kidnap somebody and hold them hostage while we do laundry and then dress them back up and then send them back out.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: You could do that. Well, anyway, they'll smell delicious.
I don't think we'd want to watch the Suit and game.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: Because it could cause a problem. Well, the. All the angry people have broken into Booster's room.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: So angry.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: And one of them gets a gun out and says, on your knees, punk.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: We're done with you. No superhero will ever dare show his face again, man.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: Stand a booster.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: Somebody through the window says, just what the world needs, another blowhard. He thinks with a gun. Oh, and the. And the gun starts moving away from the person. And then we get an advertisement for Legends crossovers. How convenient.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: Very convenient.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: Now, I do find it very interesting.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: This is Legends, issue four. Remember I told you I picked up at issue five? So this Would have been a month before I grabbed and I was getting that Cosmic Boy miniseries, which was number three, so it makes sense. The next. The number four would have come out with issue five.
Now, I do find it interesting that somehow Warlord.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: Couldn't convince that series.
[00:27:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Poor Ron had to go and draw. Let's assume. Let's see if Ron did these. I assume he's still doing it.
Had to draw. Had to do a Legends crossover in Warlord, which makes no sense.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: I mean, they couldn't get Scarteris.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm sure the world of Scarteris definitely needed crossover.
I think it happens because they're probably nearing ending the book, but we get a Legends Chapter 12. Yep. Penciled and ink. Penciled and inked by Ron.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Dang.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: Penciled and inked by Ron.
Penciled and ink by Ron. I see a lot of penciling and inking by Ron with Mike Grell doing the covers sometimes.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: That's cool. It's a good team.
[00:28:46] Speaker A: But still penciled and ink by Ron. Well, anyway, yeah, it's interesting that Warlord got drugged into it and it kept going, so. And Power Girl apparently shows up in it.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: So.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: Well, there you go.
Eventually, Ron has an anchor added.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:29:07] Speaker A: And then is off the book in issue 120. But, yeah, it's quite the run.
I'm bringing up Ron because you will have noticed that a couple of weeks ago when this podcast comes out, I posted up on our feed that Ron has a new Kickstarter app for.
Yeah, okay.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: So for Trekker. So somebody for Trekker book. Not familiar. They should get familiar. They should go. And back the Kickstarter. Should go check it out.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: They should absolutely back the Kickstarter. You've got somebody that was doing stuff for DC in the 80s and is still doing his own books now.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: And very successfully. And from what I understand, gave you and Travis some really good advice about how to market and sell your books on Kickstarter.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah, we probably wouldn't have been successful with. With what we're doing if it wasn't for the talks we've had with Ron and, you know, without him being in our corner through our Kickstarters and just giving us guidance and just kind of just being a cool, cool person, you know, super cool person.
[00:30:20] Speaker A: One of the pieces of advice he gave you, which you follow most of the time.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: Not every time.
Not last time, but most of the time.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: What. What. What's the advice?
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Have. Have the book done before you launch.
[00:30:35] Speaker B: Well, that.
That's always a. That's always the desire I can't control that.
[00:30:45] Speaker A: That's a bread thing of the book done before you launch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But especially with Ron. The way Ron is set up, though, he's got enough fans now and a continuous story that it makes sense to have the book done. Yeah, well, it just makes sense to you, right? Well, and what it protects you from is, say, your book coming out several months late.
And this is. This is not a dig at you. I was actually going to dig at somebody else and then praise them.
So anyway. Yeah, so in. In addition to all that, I got something today. Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: What you get.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: You'Re going to be jealous of this one.
This is the second Mike Gr. Art book.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:31:33] Speaker A: The first one I had all the trouble with.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: It actually showing up and, you know, like it being damaged and then trying to get another one and everything.
Well, the reason I pulled this out, even though it was about four months late, which, you know, it happens.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: Still very cool. It's very cool, this one. I just want to thank Jeff Messer for this one.
Even though there's a little ding down here in the corner, but I'm not going to fault him for that one.
Jeff was quite irritated with me the first time I complained, but as you will recall.
Yeah, we talked, we discussed it.
Not just irritated with me, but started sending me private messages and blasting me on sites and saying that I was trying to ruin Mr. Grell's ability to make money and all these things. And so my response was more of, well, you know, if you would simply, you know, mail out the books in a way that didn't get them damaged and protect them, this wouldn't be an issue.
And if you were responsive in your campaigns, this wouldn't be an issue. Well, I'm just going to say that whether or not Jeff took my words to heart, probably not, because I don't think he gives a flying fuck what my opinion is.
But I am just going to say for Mr. Grell, for Jeff, as they have done these campaigns, they have gotten better.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: And this book came beautifully packaged in a box with very well protected and even. I'm also just going to say the quality inside of this thing is even better than the last one. I thought the last book was kind of not super in some respects, but look at this.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: I can probably say you're probably not the only person to voice concerns or have minor or major complaints or I.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: Was just allowed about it.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: Guidance towards them and how to handle their. Their product.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: You're on video. What are you seeing, Greg?
[00:33:35] Speaker B: Oh, I'm seeing some pretty cool stuff right there.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: Got the.
[00:33:40] Speaker B: Got the Green Arrow.
Who is that in the middle?
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Black Canary.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: Black Canary. Okay.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Black Canary, Green Arrow, Green Lantern. Yeah. So what I'm going to say too, I cut Greg off by showing pictures.
Do reach out to Jeff Messer. Reach out to.
Reach out to their group. I'm totally blanking on their little name they have. They do Kickstarters under two different group names. That's why I'm blanking on which one right now.
But reach out and see if you can get a copy of this. And it probably proceeds are going to support Mr. Garl's health.
And so he's had some health issues over the last couple years that prevented him from going to a lot of conventions.
And he is a prolific convention goer. And if you do get to meet him at a convention, he's happy to chat with you.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: So super nice.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: Go up, get something signed. Really nice.
That was five years ago now or six years ago. Yeah, we were tabling. You were tabling. I wasn't. I was just there. But you're hanging out at your table sometimes. Yeah, right behind him. And I got to talk to him for quite a while and it was awesome.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: I've had this so opportunity to talk to him a couple times. And he's just so nice and. And just the way that the kind of discussions he has with people, you can just tell when he's just giving some. Some good feedback on. On pieces that they're doing and good advice and just he really cares, you know, so just a really.
[00:35:17] Speaker A: And I'll say something for him too. I had a really, almost really negative interaction, which he turned into a positive interaction. Oh, yeah.
Whatever handler he had at that E triple C. I went up and asked him to draw a cosmic boy and his handler, whoever that person was at that time, who I assume wasn't a handler much longer anyway, said, oh, the Legion of super gays.
And Mr. Grell said, no, it's a Legion of Superheroes.
And then proceeded to talk about how he introduced one of the early gay characters into mainstream comics in the 80s and quickly steered the conversation away, which could have been a really.
With the mood I was in that day, could have been a bad. Much worse experience for everyone.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: Because what was the. The words about to come out of my mouth are? What the do you mean?
And Mr. Grell had already steered the conversation away from that. Very skillfully and tactful. Tactfully.
And I. And then we chatted about the Legion and Cosmic Boy in the uniforms and had a great time and, you know, that's something I can appreciate. So anyway, reach out to Jeff Messer, grab one of these. We just opened it up and I didn't know how beautiful it was inside, but I'm just going to say this is a step up from their last book and well worth it. So.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Awesome.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Anyway, we are advertising for everybody else but us right now. Hey, buy Ron Randall stuff. Buy Mike Grohl stuff. Yeah. And.
And if you read Gail Simone's post, fuck other creators. So.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: That was a. That was. That was a very interesting, interesting post. Yesterday and yesterday.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: Two weeks ago. Three weeks. Whatever.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: It's been a minute. Yeah, yeah. Yesterday from when we're recording this.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Time travel.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
Well, anyway, Trixie comes up in the Gold Star costume, uses the magnetic power, steal the gun, but she's wearing a helmet so nobody can say who she is.
Somebody calls her abroad, that pisses her off. She grabs Booster, takes him away and gets him out of the hospital. And they're all on a roof. And he gets his outfit back and it's recharged and he's showing his ass to everybody.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: He is.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Beef G. And she gives him the flight ring back. So he's.
[00:38:01] Speaker B: Flight ring. I don't need it.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: We have our first. We have our first appearance of Gold Star and Booster.
But if you're a true Booster fan, you know this isn't the real first appearance of Gold Star.
We'll find out next issue.
And kind of, because. Well, anyway, I am trouble.
It's a sad story. I don't want to talk about it.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:38:30] Speaker A: Foreshadowing bad things.
Anyway, Booster and them, they get over. They go steal an airplane as you do.
Booster's still wiped out, by the way, too. You were mentioning Booster getting like. I kind of got distracted by the Legends thing and Mike Rell and Ron Randall. But I will say too, as they do this fight, Booster's still wearing the cast.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: In the arm sling.
And everybody gets on the plane, they start taking off. And by the way, if he had stayed in the Legends story, you probably were right.
Do you know which character got the shit beat out of them in the Legends story?
[00:39:10] Speaker B: I do believe it was a.
A young.
A young Robin.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: It was. It was a young Jason Todd.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: Yes, yes.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: Before he died. Later, they should have just killed him then.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: Yeah, he would have been Jason Todd.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: But then injured Jason Todd rallied all the kids, see, and their kids came out and were like this. The. The story did End kind of cheesily in some respects. Like Robin got all the kids to come out and ask their parents what they were doing and why they were listening to Glorious Godfrey and beating a child.
And, and what, what we, what we know in real life is that all the kids in this world will stand up and they're going to show their parents right now why the emperor isn't wearing clothes and that the mango Mussolini is a fuckhead and, and an idiot and is ruining the economy today, like actually happening today and destroying our international relations and, and go to them and say, hey, what are you doing liking this guy? He hates people and he's a terrible person.
And those parents are going to turn to those kids and they're going to say, you kid, go back to bed, shut the up. I support Donald Trump.
So sometimes comic books are prophetic and sometimes even idiotsy.
Can't overcome common fucking sense.
And by the way, if you support this, just stop listening. I don't fucking want you here.
I don't want you anywhere near me. I don't want you anywhere near my comics. I don't want you commenting on comics. In fact, that troll chief of staff of his came out and was talking on Star Trek.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: And you know what, motherfucker?
Shut the fuck up. Because if you think that Star Trek isn't woke. You didn't watch fucking Star Trek.
[00:41:15] Speaker B: You weren't paying attention. You didn't. You, you obviously did not pick up on anything.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: Yeah, and Shatner's involved in it too, so. Him too?
[00:41:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
I think he'll burn a photo.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: I don't know if Shatner even knows who Stephen Miller is, so it's entirely possible. Shatters what now? 90 something. Yeah, but my God.
Yeah. If you read comics or you watch Star Trek, you, you, you would know that what's happening is bad.
If you took anything out of it. Stephen Miller probably rooted for the Dominion.
Oh, yeah, it's really good when people take over the whole galaxy and set up dictatorships and put people on drugs and control them and it's good. Yeah, well, yeah, like the Jem Hadar, like the, the ice agents. It's like the same thing. That's the part of Star Trek he liked, right? Right.
Bob Wraiths, all that.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah, you wish you were a paw race.
You could close the wormhole.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Oh boy.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: Well, anyway, this anger moment was brought to you by me.
My views, expressed views don't necessarily represent Greg's views, but pretty much they're pretty.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: They'Re, they're pretty in line I just. I.
When you're. When you're on terror, I just let you go.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: I just. I can't right now. I just. Oh, no. I.
These people are. Are morons.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: It's. It's some wild times. And it is. It's very, very strange to just.
You hear that? Yeah. You just.
You. You imagine that we.
We be different.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: Well, especially when I see a comic book story referred to a comic book storyline where literally, like, to overcome Glorious Godfrey's spin and message, you know, they just had to have the kids ask them, basically defend your position, like, what are you doing?
[00:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:52] Speaker A: And people went, oh, shit, you're right.
And in real life, you do that.
And literally, I was seeing messages today.
Don't ask why I would bother, but I was seeing about the walkout today and just seeing messages like, fire all of them.
They obviously don't work.
Oh, my fucking libtards. And I'm like, I wondered how many of them were actually bots. Right. First off.
But then, you know, the second thing, it's just like, the things you're saying, like, if you read them out loud, how could you possibly endorse your statement? Right? Like, it's just I'm reading these things and it's like, oh, yeah, well, you know, liberals don't work anyway.
Yeah. Wait, you have all day, apparently, to sit there and post online.
I was sitting at the eye doctor, by the way. That's why I was on the thing. So that was my time sitting, waiting for the eye doctor to come get me, and I took a minute to read something, which was the biggest mistake in the world.
[00:45:06] Speaker B: You just got your.
[00:45:07] Speaker A: Because I should probably be reading the Associated Press and staying away from all that other. Yeah.
And, you know, here we are. Well, we're back on a plane.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Back on a plane.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: Dirk the Jerk Skeets is healed up.
Mostly.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: Yeah, mostly.
And mitts and mitts on the plane, too.
[00:45:28] Speaker A: Jeff.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: Jack.
[00:45:31] Speaker A: Jack.
[00:45:32] Speaker B: Jack.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Mitt.
Jeff. Jack Mitt.
Jeff Jackman.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Jeff Jackman.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Hugh Jack. Hugh Jackman.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Hugh Jackman.
[00:45:46] Speaker A: Well, anyway, they're flying across. They're gonna go see somebody. Booster explains how he's a massive failure. Oh, man. A loser.
And that he. We're recapping his.
Recapping his story about being an all American football player and falling to a life of gambling and disappointing his mom and making his sister sad. And probably needed that little recap for people just jumping into the book. And I thought it was an appropriate length. And we get a recap at the Space Museum. You and Skeets. And getting the time machine no longer called the time bubble, by the way.
Shift. Yeah.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Little.
Little retcon.
[00:46:29] Speaker A: Just time machine.
And we gotta please Mr. Burn, you know. Yes, Mr. Burns.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: Mr. Burns.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: I destroyed Super.
Okay, so by the way, just as we about to knock on the door, because I do think it's important to what's coming up right now.
DC. Yeah.
Comics, outsold Marvel Comics in 2025.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: Really?
That's amazing.
[00:47:09] Speaker A: Yeah. It's insane, right?
[00:47:11] Speaker B: That is insane, considering Marvel had all that first Disney money.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: First time since.
It's got to be the first time since the 70s, right?
[00:47:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a. That is a. That. That's a horned toot.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, nobody's buying print medium anymore, but. Yeah.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: I mean, still, it's. I don't know. I mean, there's people that. There's people that have boxes to go get me.
I had actually literally had a phone call. Somebody called the Retro Emporium this weekend to ask me if we carry DC Comics. And I was like, we have a couple classic comics in the back. And they're like, no, no, the new ones. I wanted to pick up the new, like. And I was like, we're not a comic shop.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: Just refer them. You know where I did.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: I referred them to a couple shops.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: Right up in Federal Way.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: Yeah. So I said, go to Midgard and they can take care of you there.
You know, but.
[00:48:15] Speaker A: Or hills of comics in this comic book. Yeah. They land the plane in front of this kind of really cool looking house built on a mountainside.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Oh, that is pretty cool looking.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: They knock on the door.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: And I.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: Knock on that door, they start asking for Dr. Hunter.
It's me, Jack from Star Labs.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: And we get the first appearance of Booster Gold, Son. I mean. Wait, wait. What?
Wait, just. I didn't say that. No, ignore that.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: I. I thought there was a. There was a resemblance there.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
I wonder, is there a resemblance? A little bit. Is this something that could be retconned in 30 years?
[00:49:09] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: Maybe.
Well, anyway, I wonder if that was ever Dan Jurgen's original intent.
[00:49:20] Speaker B: What? To. To have.
[00:49:22] Speaker A: Have. Have Rip Hunter be his son.
[00:49:25] Speaker B: That would be interesting.
[00:49:30] Speaker A: Yeah. It just. The way it's presented now, it doesn't seem possible.
[00:49:33] Speaker B: It doesn't seem possible unless Booster went back further in time.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Now, Booster could be his son. Grandson.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: Could be his son.
[00:49:44] Speaker A: Great grandson.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: Grandson. Great grandson. Yeah. But then if Booster had gone back in time, that would. But then if Rip is supposed to be super smart, then I'm not sure if this all lines up because Booster is very athletic, but not. He's. He's got street smarts. But when it comes to the other stuff, I don't.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: I don't think every parent has to have the intelligence.
[00:50:13] Speaker B: That's true. That's true.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: Well, the other thing to think about too, is when you're looking at this.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. Quick side quest.
[00:50:23] Speaker B: Okay. Side quest.
[00:50:26] Speaker A: I don't even remember the lady's name, but there's a documentary about it on Amazon right now.
Is this lady that was on Real Housewives, but she's like a church cult leader and she married her grandpa. What?
This is real.
[00:50:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:50:46] Speaker A: I mean, it's like her. Her step grand. Not whatever would it married. It wasn't her blood grandpa. Okay. But she married her grandpa. Okay.
[00:50:59] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:50:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I guess she took.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Her Real Housewives money and then married the grandpa.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: No, no. Married the grandpa to take over the cold.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:51:10] Speaker A: And then went on Real Housewives.
[00:51:11] Speaker B: Oh, interesting.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: And I can tell you the amount of episodes of Real Housewives I have watched is zero, probably. Let's go. But you've watched.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: But you've watched the. The. The cultimentary.
[00:51:26] Speaker A: I watched like.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: I don't know if I watched all of it because it became mind numbingly stupid.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, most.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: Most. But I was just like, this is idiotic.
It. It would be something to watch while you're working on something else.
[00:51:42] Speaker B: I see.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: You don't need full brain power for that, really.
Anyway, we. We get introduced to Ripley Hunter.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Ripley Hunter.
[00:51:53] Speaker A: Ripley Hunter. Who of the Ripleys.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Oh, yes, yes.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: The.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: The books and the museums. Yes. Oh, that makes so much sense.
[00:52:04] Speaker A: Oh, I wasn't thinking of that at all. Oh, I was thinking that everybody else in this picture is going to have like an alien come out of their stomach.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Oh. Oh.
And then it just starts, you know, doing a little showboat thing as it dances away.
Yeah. Oh, that's.
[00:52:26] Speaker A: Was that Eli Wolf that did the print of if.
Or is that a Brett picture of what if the cat had done his job in the film?
[00:52:37] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: What's the cat's name in Alien?
[00:52:43] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:52:44] Speaker A: What is the cat's name in Alien?
[00:52:46] Speaker B: I can't remember the cat's name.
It's right there on Tip my Tongue. You looking it up? I can't remember.
[00:52:58] Speaker A: Jonesy. Jonesy Jones. Jonesy.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Jonesy.
[00:53:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was. I don't remember who. I don't remember which of our friends drew this now, but it was Jonesy getting the Alien.
The little baby.
[00:53:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:11] Speaker A: When it first came out and said if Jonesy had just done his job.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: And ate the kid. Yeah.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: So maybe it would have been over.
[00:53:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's over.
[00:53:19] Speaker A: The cat at that point should have been the alpha predator.
[00:53:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Over the alien.
[00:53:23] Speaker B: Over the alien.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: And we never had aliens versus predators. We would never had alien. Aliens. Alien this, alien that, alien everything.
Alien ant farm.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: Oh, alien ant farm. That's a good one. I love that one.
[00:53:37] Speaker A: Yeah. That was a. That was a feature length film, right?
[00:53:40] Speaker B: It was definitely.
[00:53:41] Speaker A: Yeah, they all came. All the aliens came out of those big, like bitcoin farms.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:49] Speaker A: Mining farms. Yeah, they had their farms.
[00:53:51] Speaker B: They're working all day to harvest.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: And then.
Well, anyway, we have this nice talk with Rip.
He talks about all the interesting things.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: He's Rip Hunter and. And not Rip Van Winkle.
[00:54:09] Speaker A: The.
[00:54:09] Speaker B: The first time traveler.
[00:54:11] Speaker A: Right.
[00:54:12] Speaker B: Because, you know, Rip Van Winkle is the first time traveler.
[00:54:15] Speaker A: He.
[00:54:15] Speaker B: He traveled through time. First he went to bed and he woke up and he had traveled through time successfully. You're.
[00:54:23] Speaker A: You're.
No, but I'm sure the name has to do with Rip Van Winkle.
[00:54:29] Speaker B: Probably. Yeah. Because he traveled through time. Dan.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: He's time travel.
Well, by the way, this is the first appearance of Rip Hunter in the Bronze Age slash modern age.
The character's completely redone. There was an original Rip Hunter in. Was it the 60s?
[00:54:47] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:54:48] Speaker A: Was it late 50s?
You're like, I don't know, Perhaps before the original appearance of Rip Hunter was in Rip Hunter Time Masters in Showcase.
I just don't know when. 59 showcase number 20.
[00:55:06] Speaker B: Was he hanging out with 2 Rock.
[00:55:10] Speaker A: Maybe?
It is entirely possible Rip Hunter, but completely different character than in the Showcase. Right. So. And. And for those of you that don't know, in dc, Showcase was where they was a series that tried to launch new books from.
Remember we mentioned Hawk and Dove coming from there. But also the. The big ones that came from Showcase were Barry Allen and of course the Golden Age Green or the Silver Age Green Lantern. So we get Barry Allen coming out first out of that series and then Hal coming out and. But they would use Showcase to kind of introduce new characters in the same way that Spider man wasn't introduced in Spider Man. Oh, yeah. Introduced an Amazing Fantasy. Amazing Fantasy used it. And then if people like the new characters and they got their own series.
So there you go.
[00:56:08] Speaker B: If not, they got.
[00:56:10] Speaker A: So technically, the first appearance of Rip Hunter was in that showcase number 20.
But I'm surprised because as popular as a character as Rip Hunter, Is that this book here, number booster 13, doesn't hold more value?
[00:56:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:26] Speaker A: Because it is the introduction of the Rip Hunter that everybody. That ended up in the TV show, and that was in all the comics that we were joking about.
[00:56:35] Speaker B: And there a Rip Hunter TV show.
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
And DC Legends of Tomorrow.
[00:56:45] Speaker B: I didn't watch it.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: Yeah, because you quit watching all the D.C. things. And I don't want to talk about why. Because it's sad.
[00:56:51] Speaker B: I know.
I literally, like. It was like that was coming out, and I was like. And we were super excited about it, and then.
Yeah, then, Yeah, I missed it. I missed it. It looked really cool.
[00:57:06] Speaker A: So Rip Hunter didn't stick around that long.
[00:57:08] Speaker B: He had time to travel time.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: He also didn't look like this Rip Hunter, though. He was like, English and stuff.
[00:57:14] Speaker B: Oh, man, that's not cool.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: It's like Dr. Dan Jurgens drew him a couple times, wrote him a couple times, so it's almost like, didn't disappear.
[00:57:24] Speaker B: It's like walking. It's like the two of them walking together. It looks like it's like twins.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: It's almost like they're genetically linked in some way.
[00:57:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:37] Speaker A: But we were just saying how that would be impossible.
[00:57:39] Speaker B: It could be.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: Oh, well, he mentions he has a time sphere now.
[00:57:45] Speaker B: Oh, a time sphere. Interesting.
[00:57:48] Speaker A: Time sphere. Time bubble.
[00:57:50] Speaker B: Time bubble. Time sphere.
[00:57:51] Speaker A: Time cube, Time. No, no, no, no.
Time. No, let's not do time cubes, because that's either a Legion thing or that's a crazy, like, Reddit thing.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: I see.
[00:58:04] Speaker A: It's not.
Well, anyway, does Booster wants to know if that cool thing really works?
I would also like to point out that Booster's haircut on me was fantastic.
[00:58:21] Speaker B: It looked funny.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: I mean, I probably should go. I probably should go for that haircut. It made me look, like 20 years younger.
[00:58:27] Speaker B: If you could get hair, do it.
[00:58:30] Speaker A: I can do it.
What if I got a wig or something?
[00:58:34] Speaker B: You could. Yeah, you could. You could.
And then you boost your hair on listeners.
[00:58:40] Speaker A: If you want to design me a wig and figure out how to get it on me, effectively make Dan a wig. Let's go.
[00:58:50] Speaker B: And then we'll glue it on Dan.
[00:58:52] Speaker A: Getting new glasses, they're going to be about this much further in. So that wig would be perfect in.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, get Dan a rug.
[00:59:00] Speaker A: Let's do it.
Nobody will suspect a thing.
[00:59:04] Speaker B: No, they won't.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: So.
Well, we all get in the time bubble, and I mean the time sphere.
[00:59:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
Into the sphere they go.
[00:59:15] Speaker A: Everybody but Dirk gets to go.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: He doesn't get. Dirk has to stay Sorry, Dirk, just not enough room.
[00:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah, convenient. And so Trixie gets to go in time. That couldn't mess up anything.
[00:59:27] Speaker B: No, not at all.
[00:59:29] Speaker A: And they boost off into the future, Jack. And they're going to get to the future.
And it looks cool.
[00:59:41] Speaker B: It does look really cool.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: I do like how since Dan Jurgens drew the lead, drew the 30th century and draws the 25th century, so you can make them look different.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:59:53] Speaker A: And I like that level of continuity too. That makes me cool. They get to 2462.
And, you know, like, I don't remember the exact time frame, but I find it's interesting. They, like go to 2462. So that would have been 25 years.
Right. So it would have been 475 years.
[01:00:18] Speaker B: Right.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: Not 500 years. Right.
So when they, in Superboy comics, I think it was 15 years or 10. But they always had, like, the Superboy comics always lagged a time period behind the Superman comics.
[01:00:36] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[01:00:39] Speaker A: So I, I just thought this was a cool touch to that.
Thanks. I like, I feel like there's a nod there somewhere a little bit, how it was just lagging, even though it's feature lagging. But they were just kind of saying, you know, he would have been a kid and then he was grown up and so goes out. It also gives us some room there for the great disaster or something else bad to happen. But I think the great disaster already happened. Right. 500 years. We've already had command and stuff, right?
[01:01:07] Speaker B: I think so.
[01:01:10] Speaker A: So.
And they were talking about that in the Legion issue too.
[01:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:16] Speaker A: So anyway, Booster feels happy. We get a big two page spread of the future and he looks like he's excited to be home.
[01:01:22] Speaker B: Like, oh, my gosh.
[01:01:24] Speaker A: Rip is super exciting because his time machine worked.
[01:01:27] Speaker B: It worked.
[01:01:28] Speaker A: Jack and Trixie are like, what happened?
And where are we? They, they rest the time sphere down on the ground.
And Booster's like, what happened anyway?
And Rip's like, I don't know. As soon as we came out of the time stream, we experienced a sudden power loss.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[01:01:47] Speaker A: After the gyro controls froze. Are those Euro controls?
[01:01:52] Speaker B: Gyro.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: Oh, are you sure? Yeah.
[01:01:55] Speaker B: I mean, if it was Euro controls, they had to go to the restaurant and go get some sandwiches and throw them in there to make it, you know, power back up again.
[01:02:04] Speaker A: Well, what if it was controlled by a giant cone of meat?
[01:02:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Euros, you know, the sandwich.
[01:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Spin.
That would be the best place called.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: Spiros Go get some.
[01:02:18] Speaker A: I would go to that. I would go to that every day.
[01:02:22] Speaker B: Put it in there.
[01:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah. It'd be fun.
[01:02:26] Speaker A: Well, that.
[01:02:26] Speaker B: That cucumber dressing sauce that goes on there.
Nice. Delicious.
[01:02:34] Speaker A: I'm like, right now.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: I know.
If we can get some this weekend, that'd be good.
[01:02:40] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe.
That's definitely.
I mean, we could.
So I don't know if that was high on my list, but we could.
[01:02:51] Speaker B: Hey, there's. Possibilities are endless, Dan.
[01:02:54] Speaker A: The possibilities are interest. Well, anyway, they've got to figure out what's going on, so a booster's got to go get healed from his bacteria.
Trixie.
It goes with him.
It's always good when you travel through time to split the party.
[01:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, Split the party.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: We flip the page and we get excited to find out. I'm so very excited to find out that Batman, the Dark Knight Returns is all in one volume for us that we can buy all at once now.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: Sweet. I'm excited.
I'll get a copy.
[01:03:33] Speaker A: Thanks.
If you want to give me that first edition hardcover, I mean, I'll take it. No, I'll resell it, but I'll take it. No.
Okay. I'm just letting you know, though, I'll happily take it and then immediately flip it.
[01:03:50] Speaker B: No.
[01:03:51] Speaker A: Okay.
I really don't care if I have that book.
[01:03:58] Speaker B: Oh, damn.
[01:04:00] Speaker A: Well, we do get a mean mile here.
I've been wondering about a few DC upcoming projects. Somebody asks, tell us more. Crisis on Captive Earth series that never happened. New Wonder Woman series. Yeah, Legends. History of the DC Universe. Happened, happened, happened. New Shazam Series happens, and I believe that was a mini because Shazam. Then ends up briefly in Justice League right after. Yeah. So he. Shazam. Comes in at the end of Legends or in Legends, and then shows up. I think he gets his own series for a while.
And Shazam's so hard to keep track of because they botched launching. Launching Captain Marvel over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, so. And then finally kind of did it right.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: That's what.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: The first movie was fun. The first movie was really fun.
The first one. Second movie, I got Tawny the Tiger, so that's all I care about.
If Tawny the Tiger hadn't shown up, then all.
[01:05:03] Speaker B: Oh, then you got the Black Adam.
[01:05:06] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, we.
There's just some crazy shit mentioned in here too, like, oh, hey, Mike Gold was the one that presented the concept of Legends. Maybe that's why he was too busy to keep editing this book.
[01:05:20] Speaker B: I see.
[01:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:21] Speaker B: That could be.
[01:05:23] Speaker A: Well, yeah. I mean, he traded up, I guess.
We got.
They mentioned in this year of revitalization, writer Roy Thomas, whose Infinity Inc. With hot new artist Todd McFarland came into his second. Yeah. In the Comic Book Guide poll, in the favorite direct only title, I assume Teen Titans came in first, I believe.
Which means Infinity came ahead of Legion, which is interesting.
Anyway, yeah, this is young Todd McFarlane.
[01:06:01] Speaker B: Young Todd.
[01:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah, very young.
Not at Marvel. Todd McFarlane. Not there yet. So anyway, Booster takes off going to his house, which is a good idea. We're back into the story here. Yeah, Trixie's following him. Instead of flying like. Wait for me. Wait for me.
The most stereotypical New York landlord of all time.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks like Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
[01:06:28] Speaker A: He does.
I hate that show so much.
[01:06:36] Speaker B: What are you.
[01:06:37] Speaker A: You know.
Well, you know, I'm a big fan of postmodernism.
[01:06:40] Speaker B: All right.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm just hating on it all right now.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: I know.
[01:06:47] Speaker A: Dark Knight Returns. Aqua Team.
[01:06:50] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[01:06:53] Speaker A: It's so dumb.
[01:06:57] Speaker B: It's all right, Dan. You like what you like. You dislike what you like.
[01:07:01] Speaker A: Dislike what. You get me to laugh at it. I can't. It's impossible to laugh at.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: We're from the moon.
[01:07:09] Speaker A: Impossible to laugh at.
Now I'm just a small town bird lawyer. Now that's something I can laugh at. Oh, okay.
[01:07:16] Speaker B: There. There you go.
[01:07:19] Speaker A: Whiz Base Coast.
[01:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:23] Speaker A: Coast to coast. That's something I can laugh at.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:26] Speaker A: Okay. Aqua Team. Hunger Force.
[01:07:30] Speaker B: Not for you.
[01:07:32] Speaker A: You just do. He just do like Zorox.
Yeah.
Okay. Well, anyway, they've split the party because Booster Gold ran away. We find out that his mom and his sister had to move out because of him because they couldn't pay the rent. Because Booster is an asshole.
[01:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah, Booster's a jerk.
[01:07:57] Speaker A: As we know, the older brother in families is responsible for the financial well being of everybody else in the family.
[01:08:03] Speaker B: It's true. And when they. When they don't come through, then what are they? They're a jerk.
[01:08:07] Speaker A: Yep. It's absolutely true. It.
[01:08:10] Speaker B: Everybody looks at you like, you jerk. Why aren't you doing these things, man?
[01:08:15] Speaker A: Yep, it is. It's 100% absolutely true. So.
[01:08:20] Speaker B: Absolutely. It's.
[01:08:22] Speaker A: I already know.
[01:08:23] Speaker B: There's no. There's.
[01:08:23] Speaker A: I already know.
[01:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, there's no. There's no way. Get no way to get around it.
[01:08:30] Speaker A: Well, we got some. We got an Advertisement for the 1985 Eagle Awards.
Favorite comics, first and second were Swamp Thing and Crisis on Infinite Earth.
Thanks to some series we were just discussing favorite character. Batman, Wolverine and Swamp thing. That's interesting.
D.C. sweeps some CBG fan awards here.
The Kirby Awards gave Crisis on Infinite Earths best finite series. I guess that's limited series.
Best art, George Perez. Not surprising. Favorite story, beyond the Silent Night from Chrysant Infinite Earth number seven. Did somebody die in that one?
[01:09:14] Speaker B: I think so.
[01:09:16] Speaker A: Is it? Are you sure?
[01:09:18] Speaker B: I think so.
[01:09:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel. Was it important for some reason?
[01:09:22] Speaker B: Maybe so.
[01:09:24] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:09:25] Speaker B: Just a little bit.
[01:09:27] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I mean, just asking.
Asking for a friend. Favorite direct Cell Only comic. I was right. New Teen Titans. Favorite editor, Marv Wolfman. Favorite writer, Alan Moore.
Okay. Yeah. It all makes sense.
[01:09:43] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely.
[01:09:44] Speaker A: Favorite artist, George Perez.
Shocking.
And we have a shocking end of this story. We're stuck in the future.
Pretty soon somebody's gonna come by riding on a hoverboard.
[01:10:00] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. And then they're gonna want that. That almanac. The sports almanac. But Biff Tannen's gonna steal the time machine. Oh, it's going down. That shark doesn't. That shark never scared me, though. It always look.
Yeah. Do you want a pizza? Do you got to put it in the. In the rehydrator?
[01:10:34] Speaker A: What?
[01:10:35] Speaker B: What?
[01:10:36] Speaker A: The Gold Exchange letter section. Yes.
There's letters here.
Yeah. I hate you now. Don't do it back to me. I was doing it to you first. I won. You were supposed to get it in your head the rest of the night.
Now it's going to be in my head because you did it back to me. And that's not okay.
It's not okay. Hey, The Mighty Maple wrote a letter.
[01:10:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
The Mighty Maple.
[01:10:59] Speaker A: Shocked.
[01:11:00] Speaker B: No way.
[01:11:01] Speaker A: Maybe. Maybe somebody should get together all the TM Maple later letters and put them into a book.
[01:11:07] Speaker B: He's like, that's a really good idea. Nobody's ever thought of.
[01:11:09] Speaker A: That's a good idea. No, I know. I. I've never heard anybody mention that before.
I did. I did want to share a letter with you, though. Okay.
It says, dear Golden People.
[01:11:21] Speaker B: Oh, Golden People.
[01:11:23] Speaker A: I don't know how to say this, but I've seen too much action.
[01:11:27] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[01:11:27] Speaker A: I'd like to see Booster and Trixie fall madly in love and have Booster screw up once in a while. The man's too perfect.
Clearly didn't read the last then.
Has this guy been reading the series? He hasn't. He. He's.
[01:11:41] Speaker B: He's missed the last two episodes.
[01:11:43] Speaker A: He's missed the last. The whole. All of them.
[01:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:11:48] Speaker A: And didn't they have romance in 2462 or is booster emotionless? The 1000 doesn't interest me much.
I'm hoping they won't be the main villains in Booster. Cold. Okay. I feel like, I feel like I'm in aligned with this person appearing whenever Mr. Jurgens can't think of or invent a different person or persons for Booster to fight. Hey, how about a drug or anti drug issue? No, no, no. We, no, no, no, no. Okay. We were, we were, we were aligned.
[01:12:19] Speaker B: And now you're doing good.
[01:12:22] Speaker A: And he says I need to see some more, some realism in comic books, don't you?
I've been here since issue one. All in all, I enjoy Gold Star or Booster Gold.
What do you think of some of my ideas for Booster? Ie Love, drugs and realism.
[01:12:39] Speaker B: Love, drugs and realism.
[01:12:41] Speaker A: That's from Tim Turcott of 18 Farm Lane, Seabrook, NH 03874. So if you want to reach out to Tim, I'm sure you can find tim still at 18 Farm Lane, Seabrook, NH 03874.
[01:12:58] Speaker B: And hold on to your socks. I don't know if you're ready for this, but things are about to get real. Boosters going to try some love drugs and get crazy on the.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: He's going to go all the way. It's going to go way into the future and get those drugs that Timberwolf was on.
[01:13:14] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. Going to eat an apple. Get nuts.
[01:13:17] Speaker A: Watch out.
Well, anyway, I, I do. I didn't pull one out just to defend my position or anything, but no, I, I, I, I, I, I saw a letter that mentioned like that the villains were pretty weak and we mentioned that.
[01:13:32] Speaker B: I agree that you wanted it that, that you also wanted to see a, an emotional booster.
[01:13:41] Speaker A: I don't know if I need to.
[01:13:42] Speaker B: See an emotional booster or I just a loving booster.
[01:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't need any of that. I.
[01:13:49] Speaker B: Booster who loves.
[01:13:52] Speaker A: Booster loves.
[01:13:53] Speaker B: I want a booster who loves, damn it.
[01:13:56] Speaker A: That's how we get little rips.
[01:13:57] Speaker B: I want. Yeah, little rips. I want a Booster who loves in.
[01:14:01] Speaker A: The future and fights next issue.
Next.
[01:14:06] Speaker B: We don't know. Maybe that's what, Maybe that's what.
That's what Captain Captain Director wanted was to sell drugs.
[01:14:15] Speaker A: Next.
[01:14:16] Speaker B: Next issue is Mlm.
[01:14:19] Speaker A: Next issue we're probably going to find out what happens to Booster and Trixie and to Jack and Rip.
[01:14:26] Speaker B: Oh my. Yes.
[01:14:27] Speaker A: In the future as they try to figure out how to fix the time sphere.
[01:14:31] Speaker B: Time sphere.
Get jacked.
[01:14:34] Speaker A: Get ripped.
[01:14:35] Speaker B: In the future with Booster Gold, we're.
[01:14:39] Speaker A: Also going to find out all sorts of important things.
Hopefully by the time you get together with us next week, you'll have read issue 14.
[01:14:47] Speaker B: Hope so. But also. Who? Me or the listeners?
[01:14:52] Speaker A: Well, everyone.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: Oh, everybody. Okay.
[01:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:54] Speaker B: Good.
[01:14:55] Speaker A: You're supposed to call me reading these.
[01:14:57] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. I'm.
[01:14:59] Speaker A: You don't. But I mean, I read them. I.
[01:15:02] Speaker B: What are you talking about?
[01:15:04] Speaker A: So also, if you wanted to, though, you could head down to the Retro Emporium in Kent, Washington.
You could find all. All sorts of cool 80s things there. Good.
[01:15:18] Speaker B: It's.
[01:15:19] Speaker A: I heard it's on Meeker Street.
[01:15:20] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:15:21] Speaker A: Downtown. It's not Meeker Street. Uptown or Rivertown.
[01:15:26] Speaker B: It is like. It's like the future, but also in the past.
[01:15:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And then also.
[01:15:33] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:15:33] Speaker A: If you have noticed, we weren't joking when we said that our lawyer can beat up your lawyer track. We even shared a video of our lawyer flipping some guy over.
[01:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he was putting work on him.
[01:15:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Then he choked him out after that, too. He did break his leg or something.
He. He's the.
[01:15:56] Speaker B: I think he. I think. I think that the video was titled that. That.
Something about jokes.
[01:16:03] Speaker A: In fact, our lawyer at at Night Legal, Mr. Paul Boudreaux, kicked so much ass at his tournament that he won all of his matches by submission, except one where he was disqualified because he submitted the person in the wrong way.
[01:16:23] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[01:16:25] Speaker A: So he got disqualified for kicking too much ass?
[01:16:29] Speaker B: He was.
I'm gonna kick some more. Oh, you're not kicking any more ass, sir. You already kicked too much ass. The ass cannot be kicked anymore.
[01:16:38] Speaker A: I'm sorry. I think the tournament just decided that they couldn't give him all of the gold medals. You can't give him one silver.
[01:16:45] Speaker B: You must take one of these silver medals, sir. I'm sorry. You've kicked too much ass.
[01:16:49] Speaker A: Yes. So just know that if you connect. Look, he's. And he's as smart at law as he is at Jiu Jitsu.
So.
[01:16:58] Speaker B: Hey, don't. Don't. Don't let the fact that he couldn't get that last submission submitted, because when it comes to submitting paperwork, he can submit that no problem. He submits it all the time.
[01:17:11] Speaker A: He has no problem submitting paperwork.
[01:17:14] Speaker B: He submits.
All the paperwork into that.
[01:17:18] Speaker A: Paperwork is in.
[01:17:19] Speaker B: And that paperwork is always in submission.
Old metal.
[01:17:27] Speaker A: While it's being submitted.
[01:17:28] Speaker B: While it's being submitted.
[01:17:30] Speaker A: I've had to help submit some of that paperwork before.
[01:17:33] Speaker B: So you're a paperwork submitter too? You. You've made the paperwork submit to you?
[01:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I Bound it.
[01:17:40] Speaker B: You bow. Oh, my gosh. It's Grimmore. The. The paperwork chainsman.
[01:17:45] Speaker A: Yes.
Dan boy. Bound it.
[01:17:48] Speaker B: It's Dan bore.
[01:17:49] Speaker A: I just handed it in.
It was already bound when it got to me.
[01:17:54] Speaker B: Dan Boore. The ch.
[01:17:55] Speaker A: The. The paper. The.
[01:17:57] Speaker B: The. The paper.
Paper man.
[01:18:01] Speaker A: The paper. Yeah.
[01:18:02] Speaker B: The paper man.
[01:18:03] Speaker A: That's a. That's a.
All right.
[01:18:07] Speaker B: That's a whole thing. What's your outfit look like?
[01:18:10] Speaker A: That's. That's a whole. I. I can't. I can't share that. On the stream.
That said. Impossible.
[01:18:17] Speaker B: Too funny.
[01:18:19] Speaker A: Well, yeah. So also. Yeah, eventually. Eventually.
Eventually we're gonna have a. A Kickstarter launch. Yes.
Yeah.
[01:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:33] Speaker A: For Blame it on the Alex reign.
[01:18:36] Speaker B: Oh, Blame it on the Alex Rain.
[01:18:38] Speaker A: Booster Gold love story.
[01:18:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:18:41] Speaker A: And we'll put the link to Travis's launch again, again, in the show notes.
Even though it will never launch.
[01:18:49] Speaker B: It will launch it. It is like, honestly. Okay, you want to know. You want to know the true story?
Well, Brett was supposed to be working on Starlight. He was working on Alex Rey.
[01:19:04] Speaker A: So it should be done.
And launched it.
[01:19:07] Speaker B: Well, he can't launch it until the other one's done.
[01:19:12] Speaker A: I know.
[01:19:13] Speaker B: It's depressing and sad.
He got hyper focused, man. It's a good story.
[01:19:20] Speaker A: Starlight look like this.
[01:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it might in the future. Yeah, I was gonna say it might in the future when it comes out like that.
[01:19:29] Speaker A: Am I gonna get that someday?
[01:19:31] Speaker B: Someday, yeah.
[01:19:33] Speaker A: Are you sure? I bid on that.
[01:19:34] Speaker B: We can talk to Travis when we see him.
[01:19:38] Speaker A: Okay.
Yeah.
[01:19:41] Speaker B: That's a pretty cool picture, too. Dang.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: Well, I think that's it. Unless we're plugging other things.
[01:19:49] Speaker B: I think that's it.
[01:19:50] Speaker A: Okay, well, come back. I apologize that we weren't as entertaining.
I probably have less clips out of this book. Out of this, because I said the F word too much, and he liked.
[01:20:03] Speaker B: The story too much. He was so invested.
[01:20:05] Speaker A: I did. But if you will come back, we'll bring you back and we'll read issue 14 together, and everything will be amazing.
So come back and we love you.
And that's it. That's it. That's all we're doing. We're not. We're not talking anymore.
[01:20:23] Speaker B: We'll see you later.
[01:20:24] Speaker A: Talking anymore? We're not talking anymore.
We're not talking anymore. Oh, there's a dog on you. No more talking.
All right. Bye, everyone. Bye, everyone. The happiness. Bye. Bye.
