Funny Book Forensics 423 Booster Is Shocked

Episode 423 January 18, 2026 01:08:42
Funny Book Forensics 423 Booster Is Shocked
Funny Book Forensics
Funny Book Forensics 423 Booster Is Shocked

Jan 18 2026 | 01:08:42

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Greg and Dan review Booster Gold #11 from 1986. Booster vs Capitalism! Booster vs Shockwave! Greg and Dan vs Staying on Task! Join us for another fun episode.

Writer: Dan Jurgens; Penciller: Dan Jurgens; Inkers: Mike DeCarlo ; Letterer: John Costanza; Colors: Gene D'Angelo; Editor: Barbara Randall(Kesel)

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Timeline: 

00:00 Introduction and Show Start
02:18 Comic Book Influencer Insights
04:04 Booster Gold's New Haircut
07:42 DC Science Fiction Graphic Novels
10:05 Las Vegas Birthday Plans
12:20 Booster Gold Issue 11 Discussion
34:20 Debating the New Batman Movie
35:22 Sebastian Stan and Annoying Characters
36:28 Comic Book Characters and Plot Twists
37:19 Star Labs and Technological Advances
44:44 Booster Gold's Epic Battle
01:01:53 Wrestling References and Redemption Arcs
01:04:26 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts

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[00:00:06] Speaker A: We are recording. Yes, it's happening. It's happening. If. If you've. If you've never listened to this show, why are you starting? But the second question is the thing. Not question. See, I can't even get that right. The thing you should know is this show never starts properly. [00:00:25] Speaker B: Oh, it always starts properly. It's just properly. As to what we think is proper or what the audience thinks is proper. Two different varying things. But I think someone out there, someone enjoys how we start the show. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Well, if you are listening for the same person. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:45] Speaker A: If you are listening for the first time because you heard one of our little short things. [00:00:48] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:00:49] Speaker A: Well, that short is probably somewhere in this longer podcast. So if you like the 32nd or minute long thing, then there's lots of those joyful moments during the podcast. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Yes, yes. You will get little pockets of. Of goodness throughout the show. They're there. [00:01:13] Speaker A: And there's lots of unjoyful moments as well. [00:01:15] Speaker B: Oh. Oh. We're going to make sure to pepper in the unjoyful moments too. I got some. It's like stepping on an acorn. It's like when you're. Or one of those. What are those? Like the, the horse. The horse corns. What are those things? [00:01:27] Speaker A: Like the. [00:01:27] Speaker B: The ones that are horse apples? No, not a horse apple. That's even worse. But you know those ones that, like, they got all the spikes on it and stuff like that. Like when you, like walk around the lake and those trees. No, not a horsefly. [00:01:40] Speaker A: It's a. [00:01:41] Speaker B: It's a corn. [00:01:41] Speaker A: It's a. It's a. [00:01:42] Speaker B: It's a nut. There's a nut inside there. It comes off the tree. [00:01:45] Speaker A: It's got all these like, hazelnuts. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Spiky. I don't know, probably. Oh, man, they are sharp. You don't want to step out with bare feet. They suck that. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Copters. [00:01:56] Speaker B: No, not a helicopter. Those are. Those are cool. You can throw them in the air. The other ones, those little spiky ones are great if you, like, want to throw them at people and hurt them. But that's not what I'm talking about. We're talking about dropping them on the ground and you stepping on them. And that's what happens sometimes in this podcast. Things get dropped. You get step. They step on you step on them or we step on them. We all it together is what I'm saying happens. And your feet get hurt. My feet hurt. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Well, I've. I've been learning some things that I feel like are like that. I've been learning all about. Now that we put shorts of our podcast out for the world, I've been learning all about what it means to be a comic book influencer. [00:02:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Comic book. It turns out you're a comic book influencer. [00:02:44] Speaker A: I am not at all. It turns out if you just read new comic books and then you act like Dr. Shocker toward the creators of those comic books, you will get lots of people to like your thing. [00:03:02] Speaker B: If I act like Dr. Shocker and only read new comic books and act like Dr. Shocker, people will flock to the things that I'm. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Or the creator. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Yeah, to the creator that I'm shocking on. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Well, it's actually really smart because then the creator will like, like you and follow you and then. [00:03:18] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:03:19] Speaker A: So. [00:03:20] Speaker B: So I need to hype my game. I need to be a hype beast that way and get my game up and make it super strong that way. Like you and I do that. And then we could like. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Well, I'd have to get comics in a reasonable manner. I couldn't order them from the sad Longview shop anymore. [00:03:37] Speaker B: But think about if we could push the. Push the market how we will it. We could speculate. [00:03:43] Speaker A: We. [00:03:44] Speaker B: We wouldn't be speculating. We would drive. Be driving speculators. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Well, we're going to drive speculation right now today, because this is not a new comic. Yeah, but it's got a first appearance sort of that's not even mentioned on its DC database page. [00:04:02] Speaker B: What? Oh, my gosh. Do you hear those dollar bills? Those dollar bills? [00:04:06] Speaker A: We have a shocking first appearance. In fact, that shocking first appearance is on the COVID Actually, it's not the one I was going to talk about, but Booster Gold has a new haircut. It's shocking. [00:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, he does. It is cool. I'm getting that haircut this week, man. I'm gonna go get that haircut. Me too, man. [00:04:22] Speaker A: You should. [00:04:22] Speaker B: Yes, you should get that haircut, too. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Getting haircut twins. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it would be great. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Everybody, if you think you've got a. [00:04:31] Speaker B: Cover haircut, put that into the chat and let Dan know that he should get the haircut. [00:04:37] Speaker A: That would be hair growing. Like, it's not hair. [00:04:40] Speaker B: You just get a wig cut for your hair. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Pre toasting, I would have to pre toast my head. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Or pre. You are pre toasted. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Finally, we figured out where pre toasting has context. [00:04:49] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Pre toasting. [00:04:51] Speaker A: I'm pre cutting. [00:04:52] Speaker B: Pretty. Yeah, definitely. [00:04:55] Speaker A: Well, this cover is green. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Yes, it's kind of Green Arrow. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Green Lantern. Now you can. Now you can drive Booster Gold Power. [00:05:09] Speaker B: I. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Now you can drive Booster Gold. Is this. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Drive Booster Gold. Power. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Is this grinder? [00:05:18] Speaker B: No, that'd be. You could ride Booster Gold. [00:05:22] Speaker A: I don't think you understand that it works two ways. [00:05:26] Speaker B: Oh. Oh. You could drive and you could ride and you could power. Bottom, top. [00:05:32] Speaker A: Takes two people. Usually there's power here. Yeah, there's definitely. Well, anyway, there's a grinder ad here. Yeah, there's a. There's definitely a grinder ad going on here. Well, we also have a booster car. [00:05:43] Speaker B: Booster's a very dynamic superhero, Dan. And if you didn't already know, besties to the testies. I mean, puts his bestie to the testy. [00:05:51] Speaker A: I. [00:05:53] Speaker B: What? You rephrase it. [00:05:54] Speaker A: However you want. Anybody yet? [00:05:56] Speaker B: He's not. [00:05:56] Speaker A: But he's definitely got the Boostermobile for heroes on the go. Yes. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Yes. From Bristler. [00:06:05] Speaker A: From Bryce Ler. Yeah. And what case. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Don't miss. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Oh, you said it earlier. Don't miss Harlan Ellison's Demon with a Glass Bottle. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Glass Pipe, Ass hand. [00:06:20] Speaker A: I don't know. Do you think. Do you think when he wrote that story, he was still pissed off about City on the Edge of Forever? [00:06:26] Speaker B: Probably. Oh, my gosh. I had a conversation at the shop about that, because this. This dude. Now we're talking Star Trek. And he was talking about his favorite episode, that being the one. And I was like, you know, that was supposed to be like two and. [00:06:38] Speaker A: A half hours longer. Yeah, I mean, it's. It is. It is crazy. Amazing, but so good. Yeah, I guess they. It looks like this is interesting. Demon with a Glass Hand. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Let's find out about that television series. Oh, so this is an Outer Limits episode. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Oh, so he took an Outer Limits episode that he had written and turned it into a bigger story in a. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Comic book form, maybe. Perhaps. Yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Or a graphic novel, perhaps. Yeah, let's delve into that. [00:07:14] Speaker A: I don't know. I mean, we can delve into it later, but I'm probably knowing that it's. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Well, that's cool. [00:07:24] Speaker B: It is cool. [00:07:24] Speaker A: It looks like it's. It is. It does have a really cool cover. [00:07:28] Speaker B: It does. It does have a cool cover. I like it. What kind of car do you think? Okay. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Yes, it's a booster. I was talking about the Harlem novel, actually. Oh. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Oh, oh, okay. Okay. Sorry. I can't see you sharing with me. [00:07:43] Speaker A: So I'm not so interesting. Remember how last week we were talking about. Or was it two weeks ago? Anyway, we were talking about the DC graphic novel franchise that didn't seem to go so, well. Well, this is the DC science fiction graphic novel line. Oh, yeah. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Oh, this one is. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah. It was apparently different. Yeah. So they had two lines going on. Little did I know. So this was number five. I see. Well, that's cool. So they got Harlan Ellison to back one. Larry Niven. Oh, this makes sense. Okay, there's. There's a lot going on here. All right. George Pirate Martin. Oh, yeah. Did one. George Pirate Martin did the last one. Actually, number seven in 1987. Well, it's based on. He didn't write it. Apparently Doug Munch wrote it, but it's based on his story. [00:08:32] Speaker B: His story. [00:08:33] Speaker A: That is. That is the difference there. It looks like Larry Niven and Paul Kupperberg partnered up. It looks like Harlan Ellison did his own. Because it's Harlan Ellison. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:46] Speaker A: He won't let anybody touch his scripts. Victoria Peterson did one. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Why would he? [00:08:53] Speaker A: Ray Bradbury did one. And Klaus. [00:08:56] Speaker B: What's the Ray Bradbury story called? Do you have a title for me? [00:08:59] Speaker A: Frost and Fire. I actually remember seeing this advertised in the comics. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Sounds awesome. [00:09:03] Speaker A: Klaus Jansen plotted it with him and penciled it and inked it and colored it. [00:09:09] Speaker B: I want to read that. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Now. If Klaus Jansen inks his own penciling. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:18] Speaker A: Does that mean he just draws it once and then redraws it? [00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah, he draws it and redraw. He traces himself. [00:09:24] Speaker A: He traces. Right. But I was just saying, like, does he draw one thing? [00:09:29] Speaker B: He draws it and he's like, not like it. [00:09:31] Speaker A: And then when he inks it, he just draws a different thing. [00:09:34] Speaker B: He's like. He draws it and he's like, man, I could do better. Fuck this. And he draws it again. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Well, this is kind of a fun series. Robert Silverberg's Nightwings was written by Carrie, rewritten by Carrie Bates into graphic novel form. This is. This is fascinating. These are some things that you need to obtain for me. [00:09:53] Speaker B: I need to attain for you. You need to attain for me. [00:09:57] Speaker A: I don't have these things. You don't care about these things. [00:10:00] Speaker B: I care. I. All right, look, excuse. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Just. Just for the listeners to know, because this whole. This podcast should theoretically be out before then, so. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, Greg. You can come find Greg in Las Vegas on his birthday. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Come find me. We're going to Las Vegas for my birthday. [00:10:18] Speaker A: Going to Las Vegas to see Travis. That's right. [00:10:23] Speaker B: The web of deceit. I mean, the web of light. I mean, the web of craziness. [00:10:28] Speaker A: So if we do end up somewhere. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:10:30] Speaker A: If we do end up somewhere really nerdy, we'll Let you know. Yeah, probably like area. Area. What is that Area? I don't know what it's called. Why am I blanking on the name? I have a card for it. Travis took me there. [00:10:43] Speaker B: We're gonna go do some stuff. We might. Yeah, I might try to rubber or bend their rubber arms into taking me to the pinball museum. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Oh, we're going there? [00:10:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, definitely. So, I mean, like, yeah, we'll just be like, hey, all costs. [00:10:59] Speaker A: The only place you can spend quarters these days. [00:11:01] Speaker B: I got a ton of them. [00:11:03] Speaker A: All the slot machines have, like, those slips, but you can still spend quarters. Oh, yeah, we'll go play pinball. That's. Travis will be thrilled. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Or come have brunch with us. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Every time. That we could do. Yeah. Maybe we should organize something. Well, Greg is supposed to organize his own birthday trip. [00:11:21] Speaker B: I'm already. I've already got plans. And then I find out that the. The five things that I want to do, they're there. There's no showings of those things, so new plans are having to be created. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Well, I did check the Golden Steer steakhouse for you, and it is full. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Oh, damn it. Well, good thing the Denny's is not. [00:11:41] Speaker A: That's exactly where we're not going. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:11:46] Speaker A: You know how many good places there are to have breakfast food? [00:11:49] Speaker B: You know where we could go, Dan? You know where I want to go. Can we go to the Montecito? [00:11:54] Speaker A: We can go wherever you want, maybe. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Let's go to the Montecito, everybody. You heard it here. Dan's going to take me to the Montecito. [00:12:00] Speaker A: We can go wherever you want. Maybe. I'm not making any comments right now. [00:12:03] Speaker B: Why can't you take me to the Montecito, Dan? [00:12:06] Speaker A: Well, you know, anyway, Vegas. So we'll let you. We'll. [00:12:10] Speaker B: We'll. [00:12:11] Speaker A: We'll post some socials there and let you know if you're in Vegas and you listen to this podcast and you want to see Travis, Greg and I hit us up. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:19] Speaker A: We'll go have breakfast or something. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah, let us know. It'd be cool. [00:12:24] Speaker A: And it would be cool. Well, what I would also say here in this podcast, circling back to Booster Gold number 11. Yeah. Is one of the things shared. Oh, well, the cool haircut. I think one of the things I've complained about this book, and we had the wrap up issue last time where they all fought the one. Right. And. And solved the first 10 issues or whatever. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Right. [00:12:50] Speaker A: And been a lot of that going on. And then I think, oh, I was. I'M Am I wrong? They're still fighting the 1000 in this issue. [00:13:00] Speaker B: They're still fighting. They're. It's still happening. It never stops. [00:13:04] Speaker A: This is the wrap up. What am I talking about? We've got two issues of wrap up Before I get to the fun stories. Why did I think I was in the fun stories? I've read too far ahead, Dan. [00:13:12] Speaker B: It's when you go to. It's like when you go to Taco Bell and you get one of those boxes on a Friday night. It doesn't stop when you finish. No, no, no. It doesn't stop when you finish. It doesn't stop when you finish eating it on Friday night. It continues through the rest of the weekend until it's exited your body. [00:13:27] Speaker A: No, you're absolutely right. We've still got two more issues to the first 12. And then I kept reading and they got so good. [00:13:34] Speaker B: So good. So we have two more issues. Three more issues. [00:13:37] Speaker A: More issues. [00:13:38] Speaker B: We're doing the whole run, people. You heard it here. Daniel, I feel like we should do. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Something else at some point. [00:13:46] Speaker B: I mean, we will. [00:13:46] Speaker A: It's gonna just become the Booster Gold podcast. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Okay, so I bought. I forgot. I forgot to give you. I. I will be sending you over. I. I got. I forgot. Dan has a belated gift. [00:14:00] Speaker A: You got me a cool. A cool gift already? [00:14:02] Speaker B: No, I got you something else. And it's a. A bunch of cool stuff to read, but for the show, we can. We could pick out of 30 cool books to read. [00:14:13] Speaker A: But I have all sorts of things. I have. I forgot to. [00:14:18] Speaker B: I forgot to send it over to you. [00:14:20] Speaker A: I have like 17, 000 comic books. [00:14:22] Speaker B: Oh, I know. But I was. I was going. But you don't have these books because I know you don't have these books. [00:14:28] Speaker A: I mean, you already gave me a gift on accident that I'm just gonna sell. [00:14:33] Speaker B: What? [00:14:36] Speaker A: I don't know if you're aware, but in the boxes of stuff that you thrust upon me last couple two months. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Ago, yeah, there was some delicious gold in there. [00:14:47] Speaker A: There's the Supergirl. Supergirl, Women of Tomorrow, Woman of Tomorrow graphic novel in there. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Oh, I know there was there. I know there was some fantastic stuff in there. I was told I can't keep it. [00:15:00] Speaker A: I have the actual series, which I could sell for a lot of money now too, because apparently they're using it to make a movie. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would, I would choose. Choose your. Whichever and sell the one that you think is going to be worth the most. [00:15:14] Speaker A: You know, I'm probably going to keep the floppies. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Sell the others. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Even though the floppies are worth a lot more. But maybe I should keep both so I don't touch the floppies anyway. I just keep everything. [00:15:32] Speaker B: He's like, I gotta keep it all. See, that's what. That's. That was my dilemma was like, I was like, I had what there was like how many boxes and I was told, you can't keep it all. So. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Well, I also like, you know, it's crazy. We will get to this comic book, I promise. We. [00:15:50] Speaker B: I was telling Will people we're. [00:15:51] Speaker A: I was going to get some books at the store. [00:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:55] Speaker A: A couple of years ago. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:15:57] Speaker A: And then I was going through them last weekend and whoever the asshole is that went and pulled a bunch of number ones out of miniseries. I hate you. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Oh no. Did somebody come in? [00:16:15] Speaker A: Somebody went through and just grabbed number ones. Not expensive number ones, mind you. [00:16:22] Speaker B: Just. Just number ones and, and yeah, miniseries. Oh, I, I guarantee you I know who it was. [00:16:30] Speaker A: I. But now when we go to a. [00:16:34] Speaker B: Comic show now you gotta go find those. [00:16:36] Speaker A: Now I gotta go. Go back to the dollar bins and grab the number ones so I can group them back together and then sell them as a group. You could just go dumb. [00:16:44] Speaker B: You could just go a few blocks over and just go pick them up from the place where they're. They're probably at. Really Joking. I'm just joking. I'm just. [00:16:53] Speaker A: I will murder someone. [00:16:54] Speaker B: I'm just joking. I know it wasn't. [00:16:56] Speaker A: I need a drink. Set foot down. [00:16:58] Speaker B: He wouldn't set foot in the store again after. [00:17:01] Speaker A: Okay. Anyway, back to Booster Gold number 11. So I was excited because I thought we had jumped into Booster Gold number 13. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Oh yeah. But we hadn't because I've read like. [00:17:11] Speaker A: 15 now we're only at 11 and I can just. I want to tell you though, we. [00:17:19] Speaker B: Got a new camera and that's why I look so fantastic right now. [00:17:22] Speaker A: Right. That's exactly what we were going to talk about. I. What I was going to say is I said I felt like the series is getting better now that the crossovers are gone. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's true. [00:17:32] Speaker A: And it really is. I think they built. They picked up some steam last issue and then they really start to in the next few issues and I think by issue 13 they are just rolling. But it's sort of like the first 12 issues too were like season one. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Well, they sort of wrap things up and so we should do issue 11 before I start talking about issue 12. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Well, yeah, no, but I mean, you can. What you can say and what we can end on before we jump into the issue is that the build up to get to this was needed for some reasons, but not necessarily liked by everybody. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Dan mostly, I think. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. This introductory story could have been six issues. [00:18:26] Speaker B: It could have been if you. If you'd taken out some of the. You didn't need necessarily. [00:18:30] Speaker A: If we get rid of the Legion issues, if we get rid of the Superman issues, and we can get rid of the Mr. Twister issue. Yeah, that's five issues right there. I think we could have been out one more issue and. And done the story and then gotten really straight to the cool stuff that starts in issue 13, which will. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Which I'll now commit to cover. Because that's. Again, I'm just. You all. If you're reading. If you're not reading these Booster Gold ones, because I've been like, arch boring, and I like it. We're reading this for a reason. And then. So I cannot. I cannot express. So it was. It was honestly a slog to read. So issue one through four. Ish. Great. Fine. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Even though the villains were crazy and weird in. In new concept, but, you know, interesting new concept, the Superman issues. And I hate to say this, but the Legion issues were a slogan. And then when I got to issue last issue, so that would have been issue what, 10. This is issue 11. I read 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15 in, like, one sitting. [00:19:41] Speaker B: Just. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Because they were good and I wanted to keep reading because I was genuinely interested. Now it's. [00:19:47] Speaker B: I think when you get through all that slog and you get to the. To the good Booster Gold issues, it's like having macaroni and cheese and then finding out you could put hot dogs in it. [00:19:58] Speaker A: No. [00:19:58] Speaker B: And you're like, holy crap, this is delicious. [00:20:01] Speaker A: It was like having steak. [00:20:04] Speaker B: Oh, wait, what? What's that? Yeah, I heard there's this really cool steak place in. [00:20:10] Speaker A: In. [00:20:10] Speaker B: In Texas, in. In Las Vegas, but there's a lot. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Of really cool steak places I couldn't get you into the coolest one. Do we want to talk about that again? I'm not independently wealthy, but we will. We will get somewhere. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Also Denny's Sizzler. [00:20:30] Speaker A: I can't. This is why you can't take him anywhere. Last time we went on an airplane, he brought. [00:20:35] Speaker B: He. [00:20:36] Speaker A: He. I brought a peanut butter alcoholic. He. He brings peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in a suitcase and shows up with alcoholic Mountain Dew when we get there. Yes. [00:20:47] Speaker B: I mean, what's wrong with that? Yeah, I mean, everything. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Like, literally everything. Like, I. And the amount of stuff you just. Also, we're. I want you to realize we're going for, like, two days. You do not need to pack that many things in your suitcase. [00:21:04] Speaker B: I won't. [00:21:05] Speaker A: I promise. There's. There's literally a target within 500ft of us on the Strip. [00:21:10] Speaker B: I'm gonna pack a suitcase in case. Inside the suitcase so that when we meet up with Travis and he tries to pawn off all his extra game, I will just have another suitcase to take back. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Well, you can do that for the way home if you want, but yeah, the. You get. You get one carry on on the way there. That's. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. See, that's how I carry it all on in one. [00:21:32] Speaker A: And then, you know, I'm also taking. I still have my lounge membership till the end of the month too, so. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Oh, dang. Okay, we're. We're getting. We're. [00:21:39] Speaker A: We're whooping it up, and we'll be drunk before we get there. I mean, I need to be careful with that, though, because last time I went to Vegas, I may have spent like a thousand dollars on the first day. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Damn, dude. Okay, I will make sure that you don't do that, because that's how Greg stays pocket poor. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So anyway, Vegas. Vegas things aside. Yes. I was rolling like Booster Gold. That was the problem. So he was. [00:22:06] Speaker B: Yeah. See, you're in this. In this relationship, everybody. Dan is Booster Gold, and I am his soon to be found friend later on in life. The blue Beetle. [00:22:17] Speaker A: I think the craziest thing about my last visit to Vegas, when you weren't there and I went to see Travis, was Travis was the one that stopped me from spending money. That is. [00:22:26] Speaker B: That's wild. And I. I love it. I love it. And that's. That's the new Travis, everybody. I mean, if you. If anybody knows Travis. Travis, part of King. Travis is like, nonstop 24 7. Let's go. It is happening. And for Travis to be like, whoa, hold on, Travis. [00:22:46] Speaker A: Like, you slow down, slow down. So Dan Jurgens wrote this book and penciled it. Mike DeCarlo inked it 22 minutes, lettered it. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:56] Speaker A: Jean D' Angelo colored it. And Barbara Randall, otherwise known as Barbara Kiesel and then known as Barbara Randall. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:08] Speaker A: Edited. So if you don't know who Barbara Randall is, I just wanted to put that out there because obviously she's done a ton of work. Lots under both names. [00:23:17] Speaker B: Holy Crap like, I mean, if you, if you read it as a kid, you probably know, you probably know her work, but you don't, you might not know who she is. [00:23:29] Speaker A: Yeah. And obviously. Yeah, yeah, you don't, you probably don't know who she is, but she's done a lot. Well, it's kind of like, I mean, Louise Simonson we've mentioned too, obviously Luis did a little bit more writing, but I don't think people understand the amount that Louise edited either. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: And had her hands on. And Barbara Randall. Barbara Kiesel, Barbara Randall, same thing. [00:23:54] Speaker B: I think, like, honestly, like once we started doing the show and we started talking about a lot of this stuff and we started to actually delve into things and, and do some of the, the back matter issue items on the issues, I was blown away by the amount of information that I just was not aware of from my, my childhood influences. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and also I just mentioned the book starts getting really good right now as we get the. So Barbara takes over editing In I probably 10. She takes over in editing in number 10 from Alan Gold. [00:24:43] Speaker B: And, and the book gets. [00:24:45] Speaker A: I know there's, there's been a couple, there's been a couple of editors on this book. [00:24:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:49] Speaker A: And, and then, then the book gets good. And I do think too like Dan Jurgens at the time, younger creator. Imagine that. Just saying that out loud. Yeah. And then younger. Yeah. Younger creator. Create creator. Basically it's a creator owned book inside of D.C. kind of. I mean it's not completely creator owned, but he comes up, the whole concept, does the story and now we've got a good editor here. And no disparagement to Mr. Gold. That'd be Alan Gold. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Alan Gold, yeah. Yeah. [00:25:23] Speaker A: But these books are so much tighter once Barbara comes on and starts editing them. [00:25:28] Speaker B: I think sometimes you have an editor that is working with the creator and making choices based on bilateral decision and then you have a editor that comes on and sees something for a larger canvas and says, hey, let's, let's, let's do this instead maybe and, and explains why there's a better story, you know, and gives better guidance. And I think she's that editor. Yeah. [00:26:08] Speaker A: And, and obviously did a ton of writing too. I mean we're, we're talking, you know, this is a prolific comic book creator. [00:26:18] Speaker B: And yeah, can just see, can see stories and how they form and, and, and, and work through a lot of stuff with the creators that she's working with and make sure that everything kind of makes sense. That's, that's the kind of editor you want. Holy crap. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Yep. So here we are, and we get Mike DeCarlo inking for a couple more issues here. I noticed a change in Inker later as well, because I think Mike DeCarlo went on to ink a big book. [00:26:49] Speaker B: Oh, a bigger book than Booster Gold? [00:26:52] Speaker A: Yes. Like one Flash. [00:26:56] Speaker B: I think I was gonna say one that's really fast. [00:26:59] Speaker A: Did Mike DeCarlo ink the flash relaunch? I'm pretty sure. [00:27:02] Speaker B: I think so. I want to say I have a few books in my. In my collection, the Flash books that are Ticarlo. [00:27:10] Speaker A: And he was also inking the Legion. So that's a lot of work. [00:27:13] Speaker B: That's a lot of work. [00:27:14] Speaker A: That's a lot of work. Anyway, we get good Sunday morning Metropolis currently 97 blustering degrees outside. Even though this book was released In December of 1986, it's still summertime here in Booster Goldland. [00:27:32] Speaker B: Still summer. [00:27:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And Greg's doing his normal yawning in the middle of the podcast, even though. [00:27:39] Speaker B: I can't help it. [00:27:39] Speaker A: Very in depth conversation. [00:27:41] Speaker B: I know. [00:27:42] Speaker A: Well, you know, how could you yawn with your beautiful lights on you and everything. It's. It's crazy. Anyway. [00:27:49] Speaker B: Oh, sorry, I fell asleep. [00:27:51] Speaker A: We're getting a prison raid going on because we've got to get. Who are we getting out of here? It wasn't Dr. Shocker. [00:27:59] Speaker B: It's not Dr. Shocker. They're getting the twister out. [00:28:02] Speaker A: No, they're not getting the twister out. They were getting that big giant dude now. What's his name? Stomper. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Shockwave. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Mongolian Stomper again. [00:28:14] Speaker B: Shockwave. [00:28:17] Speaker A: The shock Have a shockwave. No stoppa. Of the like of apocalypse. Yeah. Wasn't that her name, maybe? [00:28:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Big Barda was in the Female Furies. [00:28:34] Speaker B: The Female Furies to get in the rocket. The shock of the. They got the. They got the Shaka. Now they need the. They got the doctor. Dr. Shaka. Now they need. They need Booty Rocka. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's Stompa. This is basically the same power. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Because he. All he does is stomp on stuff. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's all she did too. [00:28:57] Speaker B: It's like, oh, I wanna make it get crazy. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Go back to our Jimmy Olsen. Jimmy Olsen time period there in the Jack Kirby. [00:29:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:06] Speaker A: They show up in Mr. Miracle number six. So I was reading those. That's what I was reading before. [00:29:12] Speaker B: It was crazy because, like, we were talking earlier about, like, Royal Crackers, Dr. Shocker and the whole Shocker thing and like how they're throwing the shocker up in the. In. In the wild. In the. In the show. Royal Crackers. Because, you know, like, you know all about all that wild crazy music and everything like that of the early 90s, but mid-90s, you know, and then one of the things that they talk about is this crazy stomping guy. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Well, stomping stamp. Well, anyway, yeah, we're getting a breakout here. [00:29:49] Speaker B: Derail. [00:29:52] Speaker A: This whole podcast has been a derail. So they get the guy out here and it said his name is Clarence. [00:30:04] Speaker B: Oh, Clarence. Got the clearance for the clearance and. [00:30:07] Speaker A: The Clarence, also known as Shockwave. You were correct. They say, remember Blue Devil number two? Sure you do. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Blue Devil number two. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Since we didn't read those, even though it was listed as one of the top 10 comics of the year. [00:30:21] Speaker B: One of the ones you need to read, Dan. Shockwave fights the Blue Devil. He's got a vintage. [00:30:26] Speaker A: It was a good book, but it goes downhill quickly. It's kind of the opposite of Booster Gold. It started out great, and then. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, there can only be one Blue. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Well, moral of the story is we. We learned last issue the director needed some more power, firepower. So he goes and breaks this guy out and gives him his suit back. A good summary of the first two pages? [00:30:53] Speaker B: Pretty much. Yeah, Pretty much. Booster Gold's got a dope radio. He's got a cool boom box. That's all I gotta say. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. I mean, it plays some tapes and stuff. [00:31:03] Speaker B: His haircut is so sick. [00:31:06] Speaker A: Kids. A tape was this cassette thing and it had this little stringy stuff in it, and you put it in this machine and then it listened to the. You know. [00:31:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Spooled it through magnetic things and then. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:19] Speaker A: Played it. [00:31:20] Speaker B: I got it. I got my hands on a really cool one this. This weekend. You could recharge the whole thing. It didn't have a battery pack. You plugged it into usb C, Dan, that's. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Oh, I was like, I gotta ask if it's an old one. What did the chart last? [00:31:35] Speaker B: Like, brand new? No, it's brand new. It's good for like two hours. It's crazy. Almost all day. Two hours. [00:31:42] Speaker A: Yeah. That's. Well, anyway, old tape and a half. Booster Gold is very excited. He says, sorry to call you. Juliet is disrupting the podcast right now. [00:31:55] Speaker B: Oh, no. What? [00:31:58] Speaker A: Is she. [00:31:59] Speaker B: Why? [00:32:00] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:32:01] Speaker B: She likes Booster Gold. She likes the clock, she likes the couch, she likes the desk. I need a new chair. [00:32:08] Speaker A: Well, anyway, we're back at Booster headquarters here at Gold star Booster is losing his. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Oh, he's not happy. [00:32:18] Speaker A: And because of the Breisler mobile, the Booster mobile, they're making replicas. People are buying them. [00:32:26] Speaker B: Buying. [00:32:26] Speaker A: Dirk sold away his rights without telling him. And he is pissed as he's like. [00:32:31] Speaker B: What did you do to me, Dirk? [00:32:34] Speaker A: I really don't get it either. Here's actually something. And we were talking about the benefits of an editorial change. Oh yeah, and this is a weird one with the editorial change because when has Booster not wanted to have all the money? [00:32:54] Speaker B: That's right. [00:32:55] Speaker A: And, and then all of a sudden he's like, don't sell my likeness. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Well, it's, it's a different thing. Like, okay, he wants the money, but he doesn't want people emulating Booster with the car. He wants, he wants that to be his right. [00:33:12] Speaker A: If it gets a little exaggerated on page five, he's like, can you imagine Blackguard pulling a bank heist and escaping in his very own Booster mobile? [00:33:20] Speaker B: Well, exactly. [00:33:22] Speaker A: Blackguard is never going to have enough money to get a Booster mobile. I mean he's the best villain ever. [00:33:27] Speaker B: GTA style. Five stars. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Well, Dirk Jerkhead's still upset because A thousand has his daughter and that's all he can think about. He's been making mistakes with the contract, so that explains everything. And then he finds out that Booster shows him, tells him that. That Benny and Marty. Remember those crazy comic book creators that died? [00:33:51] Speaker B: Yeah, those guys. What, they're dead? [00:33:54] Speaker A: Yeah, they were dead last issue. [00:33:55] Speaker B: No, I know that that's dead Dirk. What they're doing. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Well, Dirk's been a little bit wrapped up in himself. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Yeah, well he's wrapped up in his daughter being disappeared by the. The thousand. What if you were going to have Dirk played by somebody, who would you have him played by? Dan? [00:34:13] Speaker A: I don't want to say. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Oh, why not? [00:34:17] Speaker A: No. Okay, so I was thinking like, who. [00:34:20] Speaker B: Played Bucky like Bucky in the. [00:34:22] Speaker A: Well, I learned that he's gonna be in the new New Robber. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Batman movie. [00:34:29] Speaker B: Batman movie and what's which. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Why are they making another one boring ass movie where Batman nothing. [00:34:37] Speaker B: No, it was so good. [00:34:40] Speaker A: Jujutsu lawyer. Paul and I agree. [00:34:43] Speaker B: If you watch it three times in a row. [00:34:46] Speaker A: I'm not watching it again. I've already tried watching it again. The Penguin. That was some good shit. [00:34:52] Speaker B: It was good. The Batman Penguin was good. The whole entire like the. [00:34:58] Speaker A: The Penguin was great. [00:34:59] Speaker B: When you go and find out where, where. [00:35:04] Speaker A: And that Batman year one book where they flooded Gotham in the comic was stupid. As shit too. [00:35:09] Speaker B: No, no, no. This movie is great. By the time you watch the show. I watched it so many times because it was 4th of July and the dogs needed something to keep their minds off the fireworks that year. So I just kept, I rented it and I just kept playing it over. [00:35:22] Speaker A: And read Gotham Flood. It's very exciting. [00:35:24] Speaker B: A lot. So anyway, is Sebastian Stan gonna play. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Is that the person's name? Yeah. [00:35:34] Speaker B: You want Sebastian sand to play Dirk? Dirk. Okay. [00:35:38] Speaker A: I was just trying to think of an actor and character that annoyed the out of me. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Sebastian Stan annoys you playing Bucky? Oh, come on. [00:35:48] Speaker A: He's great. Is he? [00:35:51] Speaker B: I think so. [00:35:52] Speaker A: What else does he do? He probably does 10 other things I like, so. Because you know how I am with this. Not going to know. [00:35:58] Speaker B: True. I mean, he, he might, I don't know. I don't. [00:36:01] Speaker A: Is he in heated rivalry? [00:36:04] Speaker B: No. Well, I don't know what he does, dude. Honestly, I, I, I honestly have never seen him in anything else. But that's me. Ryan Gosling with a mustache. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling. Anyway. Well, anyway, I'm just going names out there. Ms. Ryan Gosling. [00:36:30] Speaker B: Actually, as, as we're never gonna do Booster Gold. As Booster Gold. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe. [00:36:40] Speaker B: Oh, come on. Listeners, if you agree, let me know here. [00:36:45] Speaker A: You know what we can, we can do, though? We could cover this comic. [00:36:49] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:49] Speaker A: Okay. And Ms. Jean Collins, Trixie's aunt, shows up and she's like. [00:36:54] Speaker B: She's not happy. [00:36:55] Speaker A: No. She's like, where's Teresa? She's missing. And they're all like, wait, Dirk Jerkface, you were the last one to see her. What's going on? And Dirk Jerkface just looks at everybody and is like, booster, you cut your hair. [00:37:13] Speaker B: His haircut has been like, the topic of like, the whole entire show. But yeah, and Booster's like, don't try to change the subject on everybody. We gotta find Trixie. [00:37:24] Speaker A: Teresa. Well, then we go back to STAR Labs and we meet Jack Hsu, Vice President of Research and Development. [00:37:32] Speaker B: Okay, I'm slow on the uptake here. Scientific, technological, advanced research. [00:37:41] Speaker A: Yeah. At STAR Labs, at that. I just always, I. Oh, you've never noticed that it was S period T, period A period R period? [00:37:52] Speaker B: I just thought it was like. I always thought that's how star was spelled, Dan. That's how I said. [00:37:59] Speaker A: But that's how I spelled star. I'll, I'll admit, if you had asked, if you had quizzed me last episode and said, tell me the things for STAR Labs, I wouldn't have known. But I did know, but I did know it was initials for something. [00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, continue. [00:38:15] Speaker A: Well, Jaxu is making a cool new booster suit. He's boosting it with magnetics for Gold Star. [00:38:24] Speaker B: Wait, Magnetics? How do those work? You don't know? [00:38:31] Speaker A: Believe in Trump? [00:38:33] Speaker B: No. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Didn't you tell me the clowns are Trumpers? [00:38:44] Speaker B: Oh, I never said that. I said that they were. I said they're evangelicals, but I didn't say that. I don't think that. I don't think the two things are. I don't think the two things make. That. [00:38:55] Speaker A: They kind of are. [00:38:56] Speaker B: I mean, a lot of them maybe. [00:38:58] Speaker A: Statistically speaking, it often is. [00:39:00] Speaker B: Well, they. [00:39:01] Speaker A: They. [00:39:01] Speaker B: They claim to be that. And that's what brought a lot of their. Whatever their. Their fan base in. But then I think. Then they said, oh, we were joking. [00:39:13] Speaker A: Oh, let's see, you know, look it up. Okay. Okay. You know, I'm. I'm going to. Yeah, no, I'm finding. I'm. I'm. I want to make sure, because I don't want to implicate anybody. Insane Clown Posse. Violent J delivers a major blow to Donald Trump's presidential hopes. Clearly, he didn't do that much, but apparently they said they weren't voting for the major clown. [00:39:39] Speaker B: See, they're not. They're not half bad. Well, I mean, I will. [00:39:45] Speaker A: I will take it all back. [00:39:46] Speaker B: And here's the thing. It's because they have, like, the ties. Because. Because the ICP has a rivalry with Kid Rock, it's gone back for decades. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Why? What the are we talking about right now? None of these things. None of these things are things I want to talk about. Not one zero design. All right. [00:40:19] Speaker B: So. Back of S.T.A.R. labs. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Yeah, back at S.T.A.R Labs. Jack. Sue. No. Fucking. [00:40:24] Speaker B: He's finding out how. He's finding how magnets work. [00:40:28] Speaker A: But he does mention he wants to make a clown suit because he wants to know if Batman has and needs a new utility belt. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Yes, he does. [00:40:38] Speaker A: You know, I've been working. I've been working on a campaign for DC Heroes. [00:40:44] Speaker B: My God. [00:40:46] Speaker A: Because eventually I'm going to get all my Kickstarter stuff. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Yeah, and then you'll be able to run that actual game. [00:40:53] Speaker A: Well, I do have enough of the old stuff to start my game before I get my Kickstarter stuff, but I would invite you, but you wouldn't come. [00:41:00] Speaker B: Well, could I join online? [00:41:03] Speaker A: No. [00:41:03] Speaker B: If I can't make it, you could. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Literally just drive the 20 minutes to Ballmer's house and show up. What If I don't. [00:41:09] Speaker B: What if I. What if I don't have the ability to do so because of other things. But I could join online. [00:41:15] Speaker A: You do have the ability to do so. [00:41:17] Speaker B: I might not. [00:41:19] Speaker A: I would just come get you. So, anyway, also, little Benjamin wants to learn how to debate, so it scares me some days. He's not little. [00:41:36] Speaker B: I know. Well, anyway, he wants my lunch money. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he's not that big. That's Nathan. Nathan will knock you down and steal your lunch money. [00:41:48] Speaker B: I know. The two of them together, they're gonna work. [00:41:51] Speaker A: They're bagging nickels. [00:41:52] Speaker B: They're gonna. [00:41:54] Speaker A: I don't know why we're talking about Palmer's kids without their permission right now. Like, I know. What. What is going on anyway? [00:42:00] Speaker B: They're. They're really good kids, actually. Everybody. They're actually really funny. The. I should go play. Play. [00:42:08] Speaker A: You should come play with us on Wednesdays, because you're not doing anything else Wednesday. [00:42:12] Speaker B: I can't make it. [00:42:13] Speaker A: I know. That's why I don't invite you, because anytime I invite you anywhere, you say you can't go. So now we're back to this. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:42:21] Speaker A: It's like you're too busy or something. It's like you have stuff to do. So three jobs now. It's the Shocker. I mean the Stomper. I mean, the Shockwave. I do take issue of having a doctor Shocker and a Shock wave happening at the same time. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:41] Speaker A: How in the hell did they get. How in the hell were they able to use shockwave in 1987 DC? [00:42:50] Speaker B: And shockwave is a Transformer that's owned by, essentially, Hasbro Marvel at the time. And the guy looks like a fricking Transformer, people. [00:43:00] Speaker A: And even a suit. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Yeah, Jason, please, I know you're listening. Tell me I'm not crazy. Explain this. How. [00:43:11] Speaker A: How did this happen? Jason also shared some important news with us that we should have shared at the top of the podcast. [00:43:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, tell us the. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Drop it. Well, I. I'm getting there. I have to, like, get to the chat. [00:43:22] Speaker B: Get to the. [00:43:23] Speaker A: Like. I. Well, you must remember what it was the. Well, he named. [00:43:28] Speaker B: He had a few different things that he was talking about this week that, like, popped off. [00:43:33] Speaker A: Oh, hell, I can't find it. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Well, I can tell you this about the shop. [00:43:38] Speaker A: It's the cobra fang. Oh, the cobra fang. And the cobra mamba. [00:43:43] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Now. [00:43:45] Speaker B: And I have the thing and. And bringing it to the shop, and I'm missing pieces. [00:43:50] Speaker A: The battle copter. Now, I do think it's I do have major blood. Yes, I did find that the Cobra Mamba was a tasteless name considering what happened to the black mamba in a helicopter. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Oh, damn, damn, damn. Dan, that. That. Is that. That actually, when you. When you put it that way, that. [00:44:14] Speaker A: Not such a good name for a GI Joe. [00:44:15] Speaker B: It still hurts. [00:44:16] Speaker A: They should. They should retro. They should retroactively name it, renaming it so Kobe. [00:44:22] Speaker B: I know. Good God. [00:44:24] Speaker A: I know. [00:44:25] Speaker B: My grandma was upset. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I think everybody was upset. I mean, I don't think anybody liked Kobe Bryant until he died. [00:44:32] Speaker B: No, people liked him. I mean, they liked him, but nobody wants a moment. [00:44:38] Speaker A: Nobody wants him to die. Like, yeah, like, wasn't he going to his kids basketball game or something? [00:44:43] Speaker B: He was taking his kid to the basketball game with the. With a friend, I think. [00:44:47] Speaker A: Like Cobra Mamba. Not such a good name. So anyway, we get to page nine and Booster is confronted. We've got stomping going on upstairs. Looks like the penthouse is going down with Shockwave up there. [00:45:02] Speaker B: Dude, it's just like he's in his Transformer human suit. It looks like the. When you're watching the Transformer movie and Spike's in the suit and he's trying. [00:45:10] Speaker A: To save his dad. Yeah, it kind of does look like that. Well, we flip the page and Booster starts yelling at Dirk, calling him out, making him. Fires him. He fires him. [00:45:21] Speaker B: You're fired. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Finally. [00:45:22] Speaker B: My gosh, I've been waiting, hold on. [00:45:25] Speaker A: Issue after issue for this. [00:45:26] Speaker B: This reminds me of a TV show I watched at one point. They're in a penthouse, fires a guy. [00:45:34] Speaker A: I have no idea what you're talking about right now. Okay, which TV show? [00:45:40] Speaker B: Nothing. [00:45:41] Speaker A: What? I probably know, I've just forgotten. No, I had too many sips of whiskey. [00:45:48] Speaker B: You kept talking about. You kept talking about the man going, Mussolini. And I was like, oh, he's in the penthouse. He's firing a guy. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Damn it. Can't get away from this guy. I cannot get away from this guy. He's infested our world. Go. [00:46:04] Speaker B: What we need is a superhero to take care of him. [00:46:07] Speaker A: We do. Booster could take him out. I was reading an article today and they were asking people about Venezuela and it was his supporters and they were like, well, we know he said he would never do these international things, but like, well, if he's doing it, it must be right. [00:46:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:31] Speaker A: Like, what level of blind faith do you have to have to say that? [00:46:38] Speaker B: Wild. It's wild. [00:46:41] Speaker A: Okay, so back to comics. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Back to comics. [00:46:44] Speaker A: Booster, way better. [00:46:46] Speaker B: Jerk. Jerk face. He's running towards the computer, he's compute. Oh, take my input. [00:46:53] Speaker A: He's just leaving, actually. Well, we get back to. [00:46:56] Speaker B: He's not Dr. Shocker. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, Dr. Shocker, Shocker and. And diamond director. And they're super excited. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Tell me what Derek is doing now. [00:47:09] Speaker A: They're processing all the data they got from Booster fighting the robots, and they've discovered that Booster Gold is losing his powers. [00:47:16] Speaker B: I believe he's losing his powers. And every time he tries. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Oh, they told us that last time. [00:47:23] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:47:23] Speaker A: This time we've got the access codes to Booster Goldstar's computers and they're transferring them via modem. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Oh, imagine that sound, that horrific sound. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Back in the 80s. [00:47:40] Speaker B: Purple. [00:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very exciting. And then we get to. I'm so lost right now. [00:47:50] Speaker B: And then he sees so many things. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Going through my brain at this moment, and. [00:47:54] Speaker B: And Skeets is there and he's like, gotta get out of here now. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Julian said again. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:48:02] Speaker A: Everything is. Is going crazier now, but at least. [00:48:04] Speaker B: You know it's on page 10. We're on page 10, everybody. Page 10. We've only made it 10 pages in 49 minutes. [00:48:11] Speaker A: Juliet. So we get to page 11. I can't even talk right now. [00:48:20] Speaker B: Yes, page 11. [00:48:21] Speaker A: Because Juliet is going literally insane at the moment, and so is the Shockwave. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Shockwave is just destroying the. The penthouse. [00:48:32] Speaker A: He's like, I think whoever's coming into my house is beeping the door 5,000 times right now. [00:48:37] Speaker B: There's so many rocks. And it's like the penthouse is made of real. [00:48:43] Speaker A: It's just Jiu Jitsu lawyer. Paul. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Hey, Paul. How's it going? Be a guest on the show. He's not gonna guest on the show. [00:48:52] Speaker A: He's not gonna. [00:48:52] Speaker B: Can't hear me. [00:48:54] Speaker A: He did hear you. He's already answered our question. Yes. He said he was seeking the door because there was moisture on the thing, so he couldn't use the thumbprint. [00:49:03] Speaker B: Moist door. [00:49:04] Speaker A: This is the inside. Kind of things you need to learn about on the show. Yeah, well, Shockwave didn't use. It's so weird to call this guy Shockwave because I expect little. We were already talking about tapes earlier, and Shockwave should have been the player inside of Boosters. See, that would have been a much better crossover. [00:49:25] Speaker B: That would have been crazy. Booster puts a tape in and all of a sudden he transforms and he's like, booster, I'm going to destroy you and transform. And then starts, like, shooting up the. The. The. [00:49:38] Speaker A: The place. [00:49:38] Speaker B: And everybody runs away. And Booster's like, oh, crap. And he's like, I gotta change. I'm in my bathrobe with a cool haircut and I'm gonna kill you. [00:49:51] Speaker A: But this Booster Gold story is just a guy stomping on the penthouse and. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Destroying Whataburger symbol on his chest. [00:49:59] Speaker A: Yeah. And so not near. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Does it not look like a. When you saw it, did you not say Whataburger and get hungry? [00:50:06] Speaker A: I love what a burger. [00:50:07] Speaker B: I saw it and I was like, man, the last time I had A Whataburger was 3am in the morning, driving through Texas. [00:50:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say. I would say the last time I had a whataburger was like 1:00am in Arizona. [00:50:22] Speaker B: Why is it always late nights? [00:50:24] Speaker A: Yeah, because it's delicious. And. And also, is there a Whataburger in. [00:50:30] Speaker B: In Las Vegas? [00:50:32] Speaker A: How many years ago? Like, 15 years ago, when I started working out a lot, there was a Whataburger next to the gym. Yeah. [00:50:43] Speaker B: That sucks because you're like. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Every time. Every time I lost five pounds, my trainer, one Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul, would allow me to get one Whataburger. [00:50:52] Speaker B: No, that's. That's like a terrible. That's a terrible treat. That's like a great. And that's a great treat, but it's also terrible at the same time. [00:51:00] Speaker A: The wonderful treat. Well, I didn't get to get any fries. [00:51:05] Speaker B: I just got the burger now, though. You don't need the fries. The burger is so delicious. Anyways. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Well, anyway, so back to this story, which we're never back to the story. [00:51:14] Speaker B: When can I finish it, Dan? It's gonna be one of those epic shows where people are like, oh, my God, why don't you guys do more shows like that? I love it. [00:51:22] Speaker A: It's gonna be one of those epic shows where people are like, why the hell were you talking about all of these things? [00:51:28] Speaker B: Love these shows. [00:51:29] Speaker A: Well, anyway, Booster Gold keeps fighting the Shockwaves. [00:51:34] Speaker B: Fighting. They're fighting. He's zip, zipping him. [00:51:37] Speaker A: He's calling him like, Dr. Shockwave. So I'm like, Dr. Sh. Dr. Zayas. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Dr. Zayas. [00:51:45] Speaker A: And I mean, they. There's dialogue happening. There is. [00:51:49] Speaker B: And it's like. [00:51:50] Speaker A: There's fighting happening. [00:51:51] Speaker B: No, you're not. I'm gonna get you. Blowing snot. [00:51:56] Speaker A: And Skeets jumps in. I've researched Shockwave's history, Booster. His oysters claims are somewhat distorted. Shocking. [00:52:05] Speaker B: Shocking. [00:52:06] Speaker A: Shocking. There's a lot of shocking here, and there's just too much shocking. There's. There's a lot of shock. Shock. Everything so, anyway, we're back to the docks, the Ducks and the headquarters of one of the 1,000. They're very happy. And the Director, like, perhaps Booster's power level is more depleted than we thought. They bring in Trixie. They demand to know information about Booster Gold. They tell her that they have Anne Genie. She's sad. Directors, like, diamond directors. Like, with the Snap. Diamond Director who's no longer Diamond Director. What would you call those symbols? It's. It. [00:52:51] Speaker B: He looks like Destro and Cobra Commander at the same time. It's so weird, but cool. It's like, wow. [00:53:00] Speaker A: With a white suit. [00:53:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:03] Speaker A: At least the underwear is not white. [00:53:05] Speaker B: The underwear is not white. But then he's got that thing on his chest. It looks like a cobra symbol, but it's not quite. It's like, he looks pretty badass, but it's also like, what if I was in the metal band, I would. I would probably want to rock this look. But then also, I wouldn't want to because I would be scared that it wouldn't look quite right on me. I'm just not that built. You might be able to rock it, Dan. [00:53:32] Speaker A: Not yet. Not right now. [00:53:33] Speaker B: No, not right now. I don't know. [00:53:35] Speaker A: I would have, like, an. My. My current waistline would turn that red band right there to make it look like the symbol that's on its chest. [00:53:42] Speaker B: So because I. I look like. I would be like, come on, let's get some lava chicken, guys. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Or some. Well, anyway, they. They throw Trixie back in jail after she tells him. Tells them that his name is Michael Carter and he's from the future. [00:54:04] Speaker B: In the future. [00:54:05] Speaker A: I don't know why they randomly believe this, but. [00:54:07] Speaker B: Okay, well, I mean, they have to believe something. If you don't believe in anything, you'll fall for anything. Wait, don't believe. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Yeah, we've already discussed that earlier. Yeah. So, yes, it's. Anyway, she goes back to Dirk's daughter. I believe her name is Sarah. And they console each other while they're trapped in jail. We get back to the giant fight. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Let me tell you this, Dan. Any book that has a Sarah in it. Good book. [00:54:35] Speaker A: I wish this Sarah and not Sarah were related. [00:54:39] Speaker B: This Sarah is fantastic compared to her dad. [00:54:42] Speaker A: That's true. Anybody's fantastic compared to her dad. [00:54:46] Speaker B: So moving forward. [00:54:47] Speaker A: Back to the fight. Well, we're just back to the fight. And Booster says, shazam. [00:54:53] Speaker B: Holy crap. I know. When he said that, I didn't know what to say. [00:54:58] Speaker A: I was like, is the fight over? Like, what? I was like, how do you say. [00:55:04] Speaker B: It when you, when he said it, how did you hear it in your head? [00:55:08] Speaker A: I heard that he was the 25th century, Captain Marvel. [00:55:12] Speaker B: I heard it. Shazam. [00:55:15] Speaker A: You heard that? Yeah. Now, I heard, I heard. I heard the other one. Now. I did not. I, I did not hear Jim Neighbors this time, okay? Which is unusual. That's what I normally hear. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Well, Jim Neighbors. You know, it's crazy when you think about Jim Neighbors. Comedic, funny. His voice, that golden voice when he sings. If you haven't listened to him sing, you need to listen to him sing. Golden voice, beautiful. [00:55:46] Speaker A: Neighbors was a national treasure. [00:55:48] Speaker B: National treasure, everybody. If you don't know, please let us, Let us be your guides in this. Go seek them out. Find him on the youtubes or whatever. Listen to him sing. [00:55:59] Speaker A: He is amazing. [00:56:00] Speaker B: All right, moving forward. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Well, anyway, Shockwaves talking trash. Calling him Buster now. [00:56:10] Speaker B: And he's getting trashed. [00:56:12] Speaker A: And Booster's like, oh, my gosh. Everything's getting weak here. My force fields weak. My power suits weak. I don't know what to do. [00:56:18] Speaker B: Holy crap. [00:56:20] Speaker A: And then we get going and boom, the whole building starts to fall down. Dirk's looks like he's going to be. [00:56:29] Speaker B: Trapped now, but gotta make one save. He's got one thing to save. [00:56:36] Speaker A: He's got to save the kitty cats. [00:56:37] Speaker B: He's gotta save those kitty cats because President. The president gave Booster those kitty cats, so he's gotta save them because even. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Guy Gardner needs a redemption arc. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Oh, damn. Did you just, did you just, like, rate him next to Guy Gardner? [00:56:56] Speaker A: I, I, indeed did. [00:56:58] Speaker B: I, I, I don't know. Who do you think? They're on equal levels. They're trash. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Guy Gardner, I believe he just. More along the lines of. Of Ant Man. [00:57:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Bad. [00:57:18] Speaker A: I heard, I, I heard a comic book short or podcast? No, podcast, I was listening to. I'm not going to say which one because of what they said. [00:57:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:57:28] Speaker A: And they said, well, you know, Ant man only did that one time in the comic book. And then everybody calls him an abuser because more than one time was necessary. Like, what were you looking for there? [00:57:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Now, they were also talking about how Dan Slott wrote Star Fox and how unfair that was. I could actually see the argument for the Dan Slott thing more than I could for the other thing. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Hey. [00:58:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Huh? I was like, again, I'm not going to name this podcast because I was like, do not agree with this messaging at all once. Enough. Yeah. [00:58:15] Speaker B: You'll message, share with you. [00:58:16] Speaker A: I'll share with you afterwards. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Later. [00:58:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:18] Speaker B: Gross. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Anyway, well, the shockwave hits his foot and as we all know, in a very realistic fashion, based on what happened in real life, when a building collapses, it just goes straight down. [00:58:35] Speaker B: It does. We've seen it happen like three times now. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Yeah, so we have. [00:58:43] Speaker B: I mean, have you not seen three buildings here that have fallen straight down? [00:58:51] Speaker A: Just the Kingdom. [00:58:54] Speaker B: I've seen. I've seen three buildings. [00:58:56] Speaker A: Well, anyway, I don't want to get into the physics of buildings falling. And I don't even brought this up there. At least there's a dust cloud. Yeah. [00:59:07] Speaker B: Anyway, videotape of the Kingdome is amazing. Have it. [00:59:11] Speaker A: People are very angry. [00:59:12] Speaker B: They're all. Rooster Gold's neighbors are gonna be so mad, their insurance is gonna go so high. Some of them, like, they still got cars in the garage and they didn't. They didn't finish paying off their couches, they're so pissed. [00:59:24] Speaker A: It must have been a shitty homeowners association that didn't outkeep the building. [00:59:28] Speaker B: Well, they let a superhero in too soon. Yeah, they should have. They shouldn't have let, you know, somebody that comes in and like, you know, uses a work vehicle in their. In their garage. Yeah, I mean, well, anyway, that's what I've had in my neighborhood. [00:59:43] Speaker A: You've destroyed my home and my business. And, yeah, Booster's mad and he's beating the shit out of Shockwave. [00:59:49] Speaker B: He is just knocking the shit out of him. [00:59:52] Speaker A: And then. [00:59:53] Speaker B: And then whammo. [00:59:54] Speaker A: And then out. And then out of the blue, skates somehow using a wireless modem. What? [01:00:03] Speaker B: Dr. Shaw, is that even available at the time? [01:00:06] Speaker A: I don't think so. Dr. Shocker takes over. Skeets, what an AOL is this, exactly? I think it was prodigy, remember? [01:00:15] Speaker B: Oh, he was just prodigy. [01:00:17] Speaker A: That's what we couldn't remember before. [01:00:19] Speaker B: That's prodigy. He's a fire starter. Holy. [01:00:23] Speaker A: He is a prodigy. Oh, God. Oh, he's altavista, baby. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Altavista. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Do you think he just asked Jeeves to find out how to do it? [01:00:35] Speaker B: He might have. He might have, you know. [01:00:38] Speaker A: You think he got the instructions on Usenet? [01:00:41] Speaker B: Could have. Could have got it on Usenet. But honestly, Lexus Nexus, if you had the ability to get on that, to know that you were juicing. [01:00:51] Speaker A: Oh, God. You were knowledge, huh? God, yeah. [01:00:55] Speaker B: That was the juice right there. The nectar. [01:00:58] Speaker A: If you're our age and you did any form of forensics or debate and you know what we're talking about right now, Lexus Nexus, you were a golden God. If you had access to Lexisnexis well, anyway. [01:01:09] Speaker B: The law office anyways. Yeah. [01:01:11] Speaker A: Yes. Anyway, we go back and Dirk actually tries to redeem himself again. Jumps on Shockwave. Once he hears him say the thousand, that doesn't go well. He just gets thrown off. Booster zaps his armor, fills him full of water, hoses him. [01:01:36] Speaker B: Literally hoses him. Wets that boy down. [01:01:40] Speaker A: His armor fizzles out and explodes. He's wearing heart boxers. Yeah, this looks like a pro wrestling skit from the late, early 90s. It is. [01:01:51] Speaker B: It is epically good. It is like the total. The, like, oh, you got me, dude. It's good stuff. [01:01:59] Speaker A: And then we find out. And then Dirk comes clean. He lets Booster know that he's got his daughter. That's why he's not talking. [01:02:07] Speaker B: It is a wrestling. It is a wrestling bit from the. From the 90s. [01:02:11] Speaker A: It is. [01:02:12] Speaker B: He comes. He comes clean as the heel. He's like, I've been fucking around the whole time in the back end, so sorry, but selling you out. [01:02:20] Speaker A: Booster, Now I'm a good guy again. He had a double turn. He had a double turn in this issue. He went bad and good. [01:02:27] Speaker B: He went, yeah, I'm really a face all along. [01:02:32] Speaker A: And boot. And now we've got the other heel turn with. With Skeets. [01:02:37] Speaker B: And then. Yeah. And then Skeets is like, let me. Let me throw up this, like, director video for you with my camera. [01:02:49] Speaker A: And now Booster's pissed. He's mad. And guess what? He's gonna get him. [01:02:55] Speaker B: I love that Be there, fella. [01:02:57] Speaker A: I swear to God, I. Only one of us is going to walk out alive. [01:03:01] Speaker B: I honestly. That panel. That panel, it looks. It seriously looks like a wrestling. It looks like a wrestling promo. It reads like a wrestling promo. It comes off, like, literally. Be there, fella. You. [01:03:17] Speaker A: You. [01:03:19] Speaker B: I'm coming for next month. [01:03:22] Speaker A: The conclusion is, if we had to tell you, and we will end this arc. Finally. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Booster's so pissed. [01:03:37] Speaker A: Well, I did want to highlight one of the letters here and then. [01:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah, which one? [01:03:40] Speaker A: The. The. [01:03:41] Speaker B: The maple one. [01:03:43] Speaker A: No, there is. No, no, there is. [01:03:46] Speaker B: There is. [01:03:46] Speaker A: I know there. There always is there always. I actually wanted to highlight the one by Rick Steele from Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah, the Batman without pointed ears. Superman without his curl. A Green Lantern without his ring. I'd sooner see any of the above before I'd read an issue of Booster Gold without Skeets. Oh, game. Sure, maybe Booster could operate without Skeets, but why take away the most fun part of Booster Gold's book, Do away with Skeets. You thought Booster Gold was the star of the book. Well, that's it. The book is done. That's it. It's over. Well, we've talked about everything in the middle of the podcast. [01:04:36] Speaker B: The book is over. Yes, yes. But we have another. We have another episode later, people. [01:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll cover. We'll cover issue 12 next. Oh, my God. If you. [01:04:46] Speaker B: Good. [01:04:47] Speaker A: Additionally, if you are. If you are ever in the Kent area. [01:04:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:55] Speaker A: And you want to see Greg and Anne, you can go to the Retro emporium on Meeker Street. [01:05:00] Speaker B: A Mon Dam. [01:05:00] Speaker A: You live your childhood. Also, we mentioned when Juliet went crazy, Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul walked in. [01:05:08] Speaker B: He did. [01:05:10] Speaker A: If you need help in Washington or California with legal issues and you have. You need help, that guy will help you. You know what he will also do? [01:05:23] Speaker B: Choke him out. [01:05:24] Speaker A: He will also go. We mentioned this before. Go into the absolute division. [01:05:29] Speaker B: What? [01:05:29] Speaker A: The absolute division. That's where all the. All the weights are there. And he'll take that big guy that looks like Shockwave that's like, twice his size, and he'll choke his ass out and leave him on the mat. [01:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, I thought he was going to put a hose in his butt and, like, make him get wet and then, like, make his clothes fall. [01:05:47] Speaker A: No, he doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't need extra implements like that. He just can, like, just use his bare hands to, like, choke the guy out. Just leave. [01:05:58] Speaker B: Oh, man. He doesn't. [01:05:59] Speaker A: He. [01:06:00] Speaker B: He's like Booster Gold without the gimmicks. [01:06:02] Speaker A: He is like Booster Gold without the gimmicks. He needs no cape. [01:06:06] Speaker B: He needs no cape. He's got. He's got. Buckle his boots, people. [01:06:12] Speaker A: And last but not least. [01:06:14] Speaker B: Yes. [01:06:16] Speaker A: Well, actually last and least, because I don't think this Kickstarter is ever starting. [01:06:20] Speaker B: Oh, this kid is starting. And we're going to find out more details this month when we go visit the man himself. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Travis, you can look in our podcast notes for a link to the reign of Alex. A cyborg story. [01:06:42] Speaker B: Yes, the reign of Alex, the cyborg story. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And when. If you hit the button and you follow it, then when it actually does start the Kickstarter, it will thank. [01:06:55] Speaker B: It'll. It'll. It'll go. And then Travis Webb himself will personally send you a message that says something amazing. That's right, Dan. I'm doing the thing that you usually say I will do, but I'm doing it for Travis. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Travis didn't do anything. [01:07:18] Speaker B: Huh? [01:07:18] Speaker A: What? You didn't do anything, Travis. What? You said he'd send them a message. [01:07:23] Speaker B: Ooh, I, I, I was getting there and then you stopped me. He'll send them a message. [01:07:29] Speaker A: Why? My buildups are never that long. I get straight to the point. [01:07:33] Speaker B: You get straight to the point? Pre. Travis is gonna. Travis? I don't know. [01:07:41] Speaker A: What? [01:07:42] Speaker B: What's Travis going to do? [01:07:43] Speaker A: Dan, Travis is going to launch his Kickstarter. I know what normal creators do. They don't have to buy people off with MxPx CDs just to get them to buy their silly book. [01:07:52] Speaker B: I don't have to buy people off. [01:07:56] Speaker A: You clearly do. I mean, that's how we sold so many of them. [01:08:00] Speaker B: And then I found them all at the thrift store. [01:08:03] Speaker A: Maybe you'll let us know when the next issues coming. Next book. [01:08:08] Speaker B: Well, the next book will be with Travis Webb. [01:08:13] Speaker A: Oh, God. Okay, well, you know what? That's it. We have. That's it. [01:08:17] Speaker B: That's all we got? We got nothing else? No, we've. [01:08:19] Speaker A: We've been talking for like an hour and 10 minutes. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Dan and I are going to go hang out later and then not, not today, but another time and someday. Yeah, yeah. I mean soon. Soon. [01:08:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And we'll hang out with you next week. Right here. That's right here. You.

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